TTASA management dissolved - UPDATE Pg.10

[sMASH]

i smell a money making venture.


this is good, but not great. as a sanctioning body, their approval would have to be sought for 'sanctioning'. u have to try to 'win' their approval to be sanctioned.

i say, ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSED TTASA BEFORE, HOLD FIRM.

even if ttasa is not going to hold races them selves, the same problem as before would persist. i.e. one body deciding every thing in motor sport

this is not the way forward.

the way forward, is the GOVERNING BODY BE MADE UP OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES .
the BOARD OF THAT BODY BE MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES.

the specific governing body could be called what ever, be it MSGC or TTASA, but it would not be set up for fairness and transparency unless it's decision making level, that is its executive board is unlimited to one body, i.e. ttasa, alone.


ttasa changing captains is a change, but it is not a step forward, u could get worse. and what they are proposing does not put the other groups at a decision making level.











every body have equal right to go and see massa'. but is who give massa' the best that would get sanctioned.

[cinco]

get worse?
the way TTASA is set up isnt fundamentally wrong
but the powers that be at the board was the problem now they are gone should make life much easier

[Strauss]

the way TTASA is set up isnt fundamentally wrong

There was no problem in how the membership/executive/elections were set up?

[cinco]

i mean in terms of a single governing body isnt the issue
like i said the powers that be on the board are the ones that turned it into this monster

[wagonrunner]

i smell a money making venture.

this is good, but not great. as a sanctioning body, their approval would have to be sought for 'sanctioning'. u have to try to 'win' their approval to be sanctioned.

i say, ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSED TTASA BEFORE, HOLD FIRM.

even if ttasa is not going to hold races them selves, the same problem as before would persist. i.e. one body deciding every thing in motor sport

this is not the way forward.

the way forward, is the GOVERNING BODY BE MADE UP OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES .
the BOARD OF THAT BODY BE MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES.

the specific governing body could be called what ever, be it MSGC or TTASA, but it would not be set up for fairness and transparency unless it's decision making level, that is its executive board is unlimited to one body, i.e. ttasa, alone.

ttasa changing captains is a change, but it is not a step forward, u could get worse. and what they are proposing does not put the other groups at a decision making level.

every body have equal right to go and see massa'. but is who give massa' the best that would get sanctioned.

i understand your fears. that's how it was. let's see what happens.

The new selected committee will get all the motorsport clubs together under a single sporting commission and it was suggested that this commission elect the management of TTASA (this was only proposed and there are other suggested working models).

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

i smell a money making venture.


this is good, but not great. as a sanctioning body, their approval would have to be sought for 'sanctioning'. u have to try to 'win' their approval to be sanctioned.

i say, ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSED TTASA BEFORE, HOLD FIRM.

even if ttasa is not going to hold races them selves, the same problem as before would persist. i.e. one body deciding every thing in motor sport

this is not the way forward.

the way forward, is the GOVERNING BODY BE MADE UP OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES .
the BOARD OF THAT BODY BE MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES.

the specific governing body could be called what ever, be it MSGC or TTASA, but it would not be set up for fairness and transparency unless it's decision making level, that is its executive board is unlimited to one body, i.e. ttasa, alone.


ttasa changing captains is a change, but it is not a step forward, u could get worse. and what they are proposing does not put the other groups at a decision making level.

every body have equal right to go and see massa'. but is who give massa' the best that would get sanctioned.

The new selected committee will get all the motorsport clubs together under a single sporting commission and it was suggested that this commission elect the management of TTASA (this was only proposed and there are other suggested working models).

Already major clubs are warming up to this and if this works then the Ministry of Sport will support this unity and we can see the move forward towards a world class motorsport facility - if unity and agreement is achieved.

A small interim committee will now lead TTASA, it was suggested tonight by the trustees that viable candidates present were John Powell and Rawlins Amar for example. Other accomplished racers and motorsport people/businessmen are being considered, using their knowledge and influence to move motorsport forward in T&T.

All very promising.

[Computerman]

get worse?
the way TTASA is set up isnt fundamentally wrong but the powers that be at the board was the problem now they are gone should make life much easier

the way TTASA is set up isnt fundamentally wrong

There was no problem in how the membership/executive/elections were set up?

i mean in terms of a single governing body isnt the issue
like i said the powers that be on the board are the ones that turned it into this monster

The way TTASA is currently structured is quite 'wrong' if it is to be a truly representative body. TTASA is based on the 'old' Imperial structure (Board of Trustees). However, if what I am reading is true, regarding changing the structure of the Management Committee (which is seperate and apart from the BoT), then there is hope for change and progress.

[sMASH]

i smell a money making venture.


this is good, but not great. as a sanctioning body, their approval would have to be sought for 'sanctioning'. u have to try to 'win' their approval to be sanctioned.

i say, ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSED TTASA BEFORE, HOLD FIRM.

even if ttasa is not going to hold races them selves, the same problem as before would persist. i.e. one body deciding every thing in motor sport

this is not the way forward.

the way forward, is the GOVERNING BODY BE MADE UP OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES .
the BOARD OF THAT BODY BE MADE UP OF REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL MAJOR SPORTING DISCIPLINES.

the specific governing body could be called what ever, be it MSGC or TTASA, but it would not be set up for fairness and transparency unless it's decision making level, that is its executive board is unlimited to one body, i.e. ttasa, alone.


ttasa changing captains is a change, but it is not a step forward, u could get worse. and what they are proposing does not put the other groups at a decision making level.

every body have equal right to go and see massa'. but is who give massa' the best that would get sanctioned.

The new selected committee will get all the motorsport clubs together under a single sporting commission and it was suggested that this commission elect the management of TTASA (this was only proposed and there are other suggested working models).

Already major clubs are warming up to this and if this works then the Ministry of Sport will support this unity and we can see the move forward towards a world class motorsport facility - if unity and agreement is achieved.

A small interim committee will now lead TTASA, it was suggested tonight by the trustees that viable candidates present were John Powell and Rawlins Amar for example. Other accomplished racers and motorsport people/businessmen are being considered, using their knowledge and influence to move motorsport forward in T&T.

All very promising.

that is the term that still sours my mouth. in MY mind it still would be the group called ttasa reigning supreme over all. and who ever is in charge will call the shots. also who ever in the future comes in control will call the shots.
the commission is an idea, but is their selection of the management only for this rounds or would it be a regularized feature? who would be eligible to be selected for ttasa leadership? is it only the already existing members or can heads of other groups be given the opportunity? if other groups, would they be only from ttasa affiliated members or any other body can have a go? what criteria would the nomination need to consider?

if u going to set up a way forward, might as well get it done right the first time. no need to 'try all kinda ting'. do it and do it well.

i just putting it out in the earlies, let people see what i see and then make their decisions.


if the org that is called ttasa has to remain the NGB then let it be comprised of all the motoring enthusiast bodies in trinidad. let each discipline be able to accommodate each body. let the decision making level, the board, be comprised of reps from all the disciplines.

to put it in terms that they already talking about, the commission that they referring to, let that be the starting point or the prototype for the management board for ttasa. there should not be a president but, instead, a chairman, who is rotated from amongst the members of the board. to become a rep on the board, u have to be elected from your discipline.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

It was strongly suggested that the TTASA constitution be suspended and a new constitution drafted with the input of all the clubs.

This will change the entire structure.

Various structures such as the ones suggested here will be considered however there are excellent examples already in operation in other FIA territories that can be followed.

[Rudman]

Ah find link late.....like this have him busy?.....

SR ent reach yet?

[speedaholic]

...somebody hack Duane account...???

seems so eh... i guess we'll just have to wait n see..

[cornfused]

Uncle if this is true, this is indeed a new dawn for motorsports in Trinidad and Tobago . We have discussed this at length online and in person . We know what we want to see going forward and Uncle Duane has alluded to those things here . There is only one way from here and it is up.

[SR]

It was strongly suggested that the TTASA constitution be suspended and a new constitution drafted with the input of all the clubs.

This will change the entire structure.

Various structures such as the ones suggested here will be considered however there are excellent examples already in operation in other FIA territories that can be followed.

[sMASH]

i am usually the last to put down the sward.

[Yorkshirelass]

I am looking forward to the future! We have been held in limbo for too many years. However, we wait with bated breath with regards to the "new" TTASA as a governing body. I hear sMASH concerns. However, I think for a few years now, the majority have been in agreement that the governing body should come from the MAJOR disciplines in Trinidad Motorsport. We should also encourage the participation of business men and the likes of John Powell, Sheldon Bissessar, Ryan Garcia. Lets hope this thinking prevails.
This is a best step forward and let's hope we can get the backing and support of the Ministry of Sport for future endeavors. We have SO much talent to offer!

[wagonrunner]

a quick summary of who said majority finds is major vs minor could be enlightening.

[dragaholic]

Finally a step in the right direction.

[pugboy]

it appears most of the rejoicing is about the removal/loss of the past personalities

[halfdef]

To long we have waited for this day

[SR]

it appears most of the rejoicing is about the removal/loss of the past personalities

thats only half the problem

ttasa's constitution needs to be tossed and a new constitution needs to be written following guidlines of present times

[pugboy]

correct, history easily repeats itself

it appears most of the rejoicing is about the removal/loss of the past personalities

thats only half the problem

ttasa's constitution needs to be tossed and a new constitution needs to be written following guidlines of present times

[moti]

Ah find link late.....like this have him busy?.....

please check on him somone........

[Rudman]

I eh know if bullet pass in he direction too nah.........

[SR]

he still rejoicing with stag in hand over the resignations

[TriniGT]

Does this have anything to do with the recent shootup of their home in any way?

[sMASH]

well, well, well. i was privey to a lot of files this morning, and have a lot more to 'collect'.

this situation was relayed rather amicably............ when it was not.

at this point, if the files are true, i would extend a PROPS to the individual ttasa management persons who took the chance to get this chain of events started

[sMASH]

... oh, and if the drive by shooting had any thing to do with racing, it did not play a part in these proceedings... according to my informer.

[FugiTECH]

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You can contribute to the discussions if you'd like.

[1/4 mile king]

I am not sure if anything positive is going to happen for any of us. As easy as the board of trustees appoints a management group, i assume it is just as easy to remove them if they don't do as the board pleases. The trustees are a big waste of time. There are 7 trustees i think & only 2 show interest in TTASA and i realised that all of their decisions made were only to benefit themselves and not motorsports. The right thing to do is to call an AGM where members can vote on a management committee since the members were the ones who got rid of the past dictatorship management not the trustees. As long as a TTASA management allows the Motorsport General Council to perform the way it was INTENDED TO, all motorsport disciplines will be satisfied and at peace.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

just to clarify: according to the current TTASA constitution, ONLY TTASA members can vote in TTASA elections.
Motorsport General Council members cannot vote in TTASA elections.
Only if a MSGC affiliate club memeber wishes to join TTASA as an individual will they be able to take part in TTASA elections

just wanted to make that clear