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but Samsung lost because they were not innovating, they were copying!!! Unless they feel that they should be allowed to copy so they could charge consumers for clones.Samsung was quick to issue a comment to that effect. “Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer,” Samsung said in an official statement. “It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices.”
You don't get there by copying others.At $621 Billion, Apple is Most Valuable Company Ever
4:10 PM - August 21, 2012 by Wolfgang Gruener - source: ABC News
As Apple's stock crossed the $660 mark and continued to climb driven by iPhone 5 rumors, the company became the world's most valuable company that is not owned by a government entity.
Apple closed Monday trading at $665.15, up $17.04 or 2.63 percent from Friday. The market cap landed at $623.53 billion. The previous record holder was Microsoft, which peaked on December 30, 1999 at $660 billion. Microsoft is valued at $257.1 billion today.
S_2NR wrote:nope, you get there by great marketing.
I got a cease and desist letter from Apple last week when someone photographed me rounding the corners of my lawn when I was mowing it
NO!EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:@ Duane 3NE 2NR
You could pretty much scratch off all of them phones from the list if you own a Galaxy S2. Infact Samsung isn't pushing consumer spending at all. They just provide every phone at every possible price point so you see which one suites you best.
When the Galaxy S2 was $5000 I could not afford it so I bought a Galaxy Ace for $2000. It served me well because thats all the money I had. With Apple either you go big or you go home. If you poor then there is nothing for you get lost.
I was happy I could then later sell my Galaxy Ace thanks to trinituner. MAde a $400 loss but smallthing. Then bought a Galaxy S2 at a reasonable price since it had dropped.
No one buys Samsung products just to say they have all the Galaxy Products. But people buy everything Apple just so they can say they own everything Apple.
Look how much money it costs Samsung to make a Super AMOLED screen for their high end galaxy lines and look how much they sell it for. Don't forget the more expensive GPU and CPU chips put into their high end Galaxy over the iphones. There is a reason Apple is richer than intel now. They sell inferior hardware and get people to buy it. If you buy pitch pine wood for $100 and sell it for $5000 you will make more money than buying Green Heart wood for $4500 and selling it for $5000. In this case samsung is selling Gorilla Glass and Super OLED screen instead of Green Heart Wood.
ask majority of the world they would tell you they buy Apple for the brandname. Apple has it made with brand name and you got to give them credit for that.
Only 10% of apple owners actually buy iphone and ipad for the apps. Which is actually the best thing about apple. I could not believe brand name buying would move onto the electronic world. I used to think it was reserved for Clothing and Sun Glasses.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:NO!EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:@ Duane 3NE 2NR
You could pretty much scratch off all of them phones from the list if you own a Galaxy S2. Infact Samsung isn't pushing consumer spending at all. They just provide every phone at every possible price point so you see which one suites you best.
When the Galaxy S2 was $5000 I could not afford it so I bought a Galaxy Ace for $2000. It served me well because thats all the money I had. With Apple either you go big or you go home. If you poor then there is nothing for you get lost.
I was happy I could then later sell my Galaxy Ace thanks to trinituner. MAde a $400 loss but smallthing. Then bought a Galaxy S2 at a reasonable price since it had dropped.
No one buys Samsung products just to say they have all the Galaxy Products. But people buy everything Apple just so they can say they own everything Apple.
Look how much money it costs Samsung to make a Super AMOLED screen for their high end galaxy lines and look how much they sell it for. Don't forget the more expensive GPU and CPU chips put into their high end Galaxy over the iphones. There is a reason Apple is richer than intel now. They sell inferior hardware and get people to buy it. If you buy pitch pine wood for $100 and sell it for $5000 you will make more money than buying Green Heart wood for $4500 and selling it for $5000. In this case samsung is selling Gorilla Glass and Super OLED screen instead of Green Heart Wood.
ask majority of the world they would tell you they buy Apple for the brandname. Apple has it made with brand name and you got to give them credit for that.
Only 10% of apple owners actually buy iphone and ipad for the apps. Which is actually the best thing about apple. I could not believe brand name buying would move onto the electronic world. I used to think it was reserved for Clothing and Sun Glasses.
iPhone prices by Apple were always meant to be ~$199, $299 and $399 because Apple's consumer model for the iPhone always included a carrier plan package. Infact Apple didnt start selling unlocked devices until MUCH later in the game.
What you were paying $5000 for is an unlocked device that Apple actually resisted from selling without a contract - which is why the iPhone unlocking market was such a HUGE thing.
And where did you get statistics stating that only 10% of iPad and iPhone owners buy because of the apps? That is absolutely not true
Please state your source.
I sense much deeper psychological issues here.EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Its an estimate based on random people I talk to. the usual response is "I doh see nobody running down no samsung. When you watch movies is iphone the big stars does be rocking dan. So me go buy ah iphone aight"
Your experience with iphone users may be a bit different than mine though.
There is a high possibility that my estimate could be off especially since it was done when my previous employer realized that it was cheaper to hire Vagrants and disguise them as my co workers.
Please accept my apology as I was clearly out of place for posting a survey I did at that time. this clearly does not represent the majority of the community.
InDeForest wrote:I think it is appropriate for certain strong companies to step up to the line, or over the line, rather, to challenge patents that are simply nonsense. All too often in manufacturing, patents are granted on a first come first served basis to any and every frivolous application that is submitted, even in cases where it can be easily proven prior examples exist. As we know countless far east manufacturers copy and outright forge popular branded products, Samsung is seen as doing this with the IP3/S1, but its really an improvement on the product, they stuff every possible piece of current technology and convenience into the phone, where apple exercises restraint and leaves out certain obvious 'must have' features. Samsung has since left them in the dust, in my humble opinion.
For apple to try and cripple competition progress by bringing a case including grounds on absolutely frivolous patents such as 'rounded square icons', 'rounded edge rectangle', and 'bounceback scrolling' (which should never have been granted), is a low blow to bring down a better opponent. It is a battle perpetuated by uncreative lawyers and shareholders who are entitled to a massive chunk of the settlement, the real geeks involved in the innovations know damn well these silly patents have nothing to do with the spirit of technological creativity and competition that drives both companies forward. The fact that this was won in a California courtroom, Apples 'hometown', is a simple "US vs. Them" bias on the part of the judge and jury. I hope apple gets the shaft in every other case pending around the world. It was correct for Samsung to see these patents as frivolous and to go ahead and utilize whatever styling they felt was desirable to the market, knowing they have the resources to challenge disputes in court, they are to be commended for the risk and effort.
brams112 wrote:Well at least there are people who in here knows apple is just a fad.
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