Removal of nurses licensing exam

[shorty d]

This licensing exam was something that was set up in 1961. 51 years later, most of the ppl who want to be nurses are doing their degree at tertiary institutions supervised by the Accreditation Council.
Why do we still need this archaic body to tell nursing graduates that they can't be nurses? And all for not being able to pass some biased, subjective and non-independent exams. The real reason they fighting this is becos without this exam, local nurses wont be able to migrate to other countries to work as nurses. Can't see why we should continue to facilitate the brian drain.

The reason they are fighting is because without the exam FOREIGN nurses will be able to work here although some of them cannot understand English. They will also be gettin paid more with less qualifications than our nurses.

[sykomekanik]

so they took out the exam and replaced it with what?? nothing!!!
in pharmacy you have a pre-registration period to work under a registered pharmacist who then certifies you to become a registered pharmacist after 6 months( with reduced pay during that time) and its the same for doctors. i'm not too sure on how long they have to be interns for though.
the same applies for both dentists and veterinarians i think.
so why didn't they incorporate an internship program?? and our minister of health is a doctor, i'm sure he knows about this... imo its total BS...

[bluespeed]

well look now.....ah set of dotish mamphi to treat yuh bad when yuh in pain now!

we certainly dead now!

[UML]

so fuad khan explained why he removing the licensing exams and it made some sense

apparently after u train and do ur exams u have another exam to be accepted by the nursing council (which in itself has questionable practices)


he said that no other country has this requirment but trinidad which has a high failure rate

the nurses from cuba, phillipines,etc. dont write this exam in their country and when they come here they dont have to do it either....so they just come and start working

very unfair to our nurses.....and we already have a shortage of nurses since i doh know when.

so imagine u failing and cant work and these imported nurses not doing this exam and getting to work

so with this removal we can get more local nurses and reduce the shortage


about the nursin council.......wellllllllllll

he said nurses have to get approval to work through the nursing council.....but hear this.....u have to provide a passport picture before you know if u pass or fail

so you know how that works

[UML]

where all the opposers and theorists??

[zoom rader]

so fuad khan explained why he removing the licensing exams and it made some sense

apparently after u train and do ur exams u have another exam to be accepted by the nursing council (which in itself has questionable practices)


he said that no other country has this requirment but trinidad which has a high failure rate

the nurses from cuba, phillipines,etc. dont write this exam in their country and when they come here they dont have to do it either....so they just come and start working

very unfair to our nurses.....and we already have a shortage of nurses since i doh know when.

so imagine u failing and cant work and these imported nurses not doing this exam and getting to work

so with this removal we can get more local nurses and reduce the shortage


about the nursin council.......wellllllllllll

he said nurses have to get approval to work through the nursing council.....but hear this.....u have to provide a passport picture before you know if u pass or fail

so you know how that works

Yes this is what I said a post back, the nursin council is to let certain people in and others out . The exam is bogus

Its the same as when appling for an HDC house u had to provide a photo.

[UML]

but this govt racist


so easy for the opposition to use the race card conveniently when it applies specifically to them

[Strauss]

It's about time we GET RID of some of those nurses who should not be there.

And maybe the threat of foreign nurses will improve our health care. I'm sick and tired of the attitude I get and health care I get as a citizen of this country. That exam is a big farse - it's like a VISA to use our resources and give nothing back in return.

You think we really use that exam to give the green light for nurses? No. You should know that there are already things in place for the accreditation of our nurses. And all this BS and crying about taking away this exam is so full of lies and hidden agendas by the few who run our healthcare system.

We are in a mess because people refuse to change. It's a lot of covering up where the lazy, heartless people are protecting their own interest. They don't want to be accountable or perform, yet want to keep their jobs and use some BS about the NLE to do it.

Awaits a registered nurse to reply and tell me how hard they work with no equipment, facilities, low pay etc. And how I'm an idiot. Remember... I see you every frigging day.

[Conrad]

so fuad khan explained why he removing the licensing exams and it made some sense

apparently after u train and do ur exams u have another exam to be accepted by the nursing council (which in itself has questionable practices)


he said that no other country has this requirment but trinidad which has a high failure rate

the nurses from cuba, phillipines,etc. dont write this exam in their country and when they come here they dont have to do it either....so they just come and start working

very unfair to our nurses.....and we already have a shortage of nurses since i doh know when.

so imagine u failing and cant work and these imported nurses not doing this exam and getting to work

so with this removal we can get more local nurses and reduce the shortage


about the nursin council.......wellllllllllll

he said nurses have to get approval to work through the nursing council.....but hear this.....u have to provide a passport picture before you know if u pass or fail

so you know how that works

Yes this is what I said a post back, the nursin council is to let certain people in and others out . The exam is bogus

Its the same as when appling for an HDC house u had to provide a photo.

*facepalm*

Don't take EVERYTHING you hear as gospel.

Subjective yes, what exam that has a practical element isn't? Based on ethnicity, no.


A major reason there is a shortage of nurses is the remuneration package for the effort required especially when training. It's not as easy as some crack it up to be.

As for the attitude of nurses. That differs from individual to individual, not based on their ethnicity, area they grew up in, physical size or financial position. Dealing with sickly persons and their sometimes aggravat(ed/ing) family isn't an easy job, different nurses handle it differently. Just like in any job, it's part of your life and would reflect there.

[Strauss]

As for the attitude of nurses. That differs from individual to individual, not based on their ethnicity, area they grew up in, physical size or financial position. Dealing with sickly persons and their sometimes aggravat(ed/ing) family isn't an easy job, different nurses handle it differently. Just like in any job, it's part of your life and would reflect there.

This is a load of sh!t.

Regardless of how your day is, how your family is or how you grew up or that time of the month... you have to DO YOUR JOB as a nurse. And if you cannot meet these harsh requirements, then you should not be here.

Same applies for teachers, police, doctors et al.

[Conrad]

It's about time we GET RID of some of those nurses who should not be there.

I agree.

And maybe the threat of foreign nurses will improve our health care. I'm sick and tired of the attitude I get and health care I get as a citizen of this country. That exam is a big farse - it's like a VISA to use our resources and give nothing back in return.

Strongly disagree as nurses are only a part of the problem.

And all this BS and crying about taking away this exam is so full of lies and hidden agendas by the few who run our healthcare system.

The minister and others don't have agendas themselves?

We are in a mess because people refuse to change. It's a lot of covering up where the lazy, heartless people are protecting their own interest. They don't want to be accountable or perform, yet want to keep their jobs and use some BS about the NLE to do it.

Fully agree. Full removal of the exam I wouldn't agree with, perhaps the way the exam is conducted and methods should be put in place to encourage an objective environment for student nurses.

A single method of appraisal should exist to ensure that all nurses coming out from the various institutions meet some minimal standard. Perhaps a higher standard coupled with a better stipend and salary would increase the appeal for the nursing profession while ensuring that our health system is supplied with quality staffing.

[Conrad]

As for the attitude of nurses. That differs from individual to individual, not based on their ethnicity, area they grew up in, physical size or financial position. Dealing with sickly persons and their sometimes aggravat(ed/ing) family isn't an easy job, different nurses handle it differently. Just like in any job, it's part of your life and would reflect there.

This is a load of sh!t.

Regardless of how your day is, how your family is or how you grew up or that time of the month... you have to DO YOUR JOB as a nurse. And if you cannot meet these harsh requirements, then you should not be here.

Same applies for teachers, police, doctors et al.

Life...deal with it.

[hustla_ambition101]

As for the attitude of nurses. That differs from individual to individual, not based on their ethnicity, area they grew up in, physical size or financial position. Dealing with sickly persons and their sometimes aggravat(ed/ing) family isn't an easy job, different nurses handle it differently. Just like in any job, it's part of your life and would reflect there.

This is a load of sh!t.

Regardless of how your day is, how your family is or how you grew up or that time of the month... you have to DO YOUR JOB as a nurse. And if you cannot meet these harsh requirements, then you should not be here.

Same applies for teachers, police, doctors et al.

he wasn't refering to nurses families but the patient's own.
Everybody quick to put down nurses but they can't last 2 hours doing the same job. If I was home I would have posted a mile long list of issues nurses face on a daily basis but I go leave peeps to wallow in ignorance til later

[Strauss]

Everybody quick to put down nurses but they can't last 2 hours doing the same job. If I was home I would have posted a mile long list of issues nurses face on a daily basis but I go leave peeps to wallow in ignorance til later

We all have issues on the job.

Equipment/apparatus, space, washrooms, water, beds, red tape, environmental control, sanitary needs etc etc. And yes it's rough. But must this frustration be passed on to patients and their concerned and already stressed families?

I know these things are only part of the problem.

When you decide you want to be a nurse or doctor you better damn well be prepared for the most stressful job. That is why we TRAIN doctors and nurses in communication, ethics et al. What's the point when all that goes out the window? Oh YOU have a bad day? What about the dying patient? What about the relatives waiting for 8 hrs+ only to be given a stink attitude and rude remarks?

Even with all the problems, does it hurt to be polite, factual and helpful to your patients and their families?

Maxi drivers bad drive you all day. They cuss you. Do illegal drives and 'short drop' the travelling public. And then when they have issues and want to protect their rights, they wonder why the population don't support them. Hey! Maybe if you never used to treat motorist like dogsh!t, we'd be the first to stand up with you in principle. Same with nurses. Same with the police officers.

Get those foreign nurses here FAST.

[Conrad]

Question to those who support the influx of foreign health administers.

What would you all do if your loved one dies as a result of an individual's personal belief in reincarnation? Yes, it has happened before, more than once.

Or they use an unorthodox method which resulted in further injury because that's what they do back home where training may differ?

Or due to lack of training, equipment isn't maintained properly resulting in backlog and unattended patients?

[shorty d]

Get those foreign nurses here FAST.

So u feel when they bring foreign nurses the health system will improve?

It will just have more nurses to tell u it don`t have any bed available or that de doctor gone on rounds

[UML]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

[Conrad]

The issue is the possibility of half-assed professionals which is an oxymoron..a painful one at that considering that with the "hard-to-pass exam citizens are still upset with the quality of nurses.

[shorty d]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

[shorty d]

For those of u who don`t know the exam is made up of 4 papers.You have 3 chances to write the exam.Any paper u pass u are exempted from writing it. So if u pass 3 the first time u have 2 chances to write the last paper.
So if this is to hard for our nurses to pass then remove the exam so i can become a nurse an get $7000. a month.

[Habit7]

The Council also denied having any previous discussions with Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan and dismissed his quotation of the 40 per cent failure rate for nurses sitting the Council licence exam.

"The Minister made reference to the percentages and some figures were quoted. In 2008, we had a pass rate of 66 per cent, in 2009 we had a pass rate of 89 per cent, in 2010 we had 62 per cent and in 2011 we had 64 per cent," he said.

"The fail-out rate is three to four per cent and when we look at the number of nurses, there's quite a large number passing the system," he said.
"Nurses are being successful, but not being employed," he said.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Nur ... 94985.html

I dont know why ppl are still bandying the notion that nurses are failing the exam badly?

[UML]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

[hustla_ambition101]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

Isn't the RHAs who are responsible for hiring?

[UML]

^^^^it sounded like they waiting for approval das why i asked

this nursing issue is one from years past so stop trying to make it seem as a PP govt issue.....the PP govt is trying to fix the sheit that the PNM has done for how many years of existence



i definitely prefer locals get the job rather than foreigners....just the locals need to appreciate their job and know how to treat ppl. I guess the job insecurity isnt enough to make them care.

[noyztoyz]

so any qack could be a nurse now then
we dead

it wast like this all d time?

anyway...let me keep my mouth shut...i knows nuttin about nursing.

[UML]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

Isn't the RHAs who are responsible for hiring?

so why does the nursing council need passport pics??.....to send an "approved" listing to the RHA?

[hustla_ambition101]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

Isn't the RHAs who are responsible for hiring?

so why does the nursing council need passport pics??.....to send an "approved" listing to the RHA?

Registry..........all practising nurses are supposed to pay a yearly fee to be allowed to continue practising

[zoom rader]

havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

Isn't the RHAs who are responsible for hiring?

so why does the nursing council need passport pics??.....to send an "approved" listing to the RHA?

To keep certain people out. It is the PNM way of doing things.
Before they went by names, so it was easy to keep people out. But now we have all sorts of people carrying different names , so they put the Photos in to place to cure that problem.

Every wonder why only its only one group of people that get hired

[nemisis]

[quote="UML"]havent we been using foreign nurses for years?!!!

so wahs the issue?

the reason they removing the exam is to have more LOCAL nurses....because the exams puts locals at a disavantage

i thought i made it clear earlier.......some ah allyuh "intellects" really have shiit for brains oui

It have PLENTY of local nurses that passed the exams and are not being placed in hospitals.So what u recommend UML put those who haven`t passed the exam to work instead ?

so is it the nursing council that blocking them?

Isn't the RHAs who are responsible for hiring?

so why does the nursing council need passport pics??.....to send an "approved" listing to the RHA?

To keep certain people out. It is the PNM way of doing things.
Before they went by names, so it was easy to keep people out. But now we have all sorts of people carrying different names , so they put the Photos in to place to cure that problem.

Every wonder why only its only one group of people that get hired[/quote]
have any stats to back it up other than what you usually pull outta your arse?

[eliteauto]

To keep certain people out. It is the PNM way of doing things.
Before they went by names, so it was easy to keep people out. But now we have all sorts of people carrying different names , so they put the Photos in to place to cure that problem.

Every wonder why only its only one group of people that get hired

Sounds like the PP's policy for TSTT and PTSC