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dougla_boy wrote:....speaking about caribs a history teacher said dat diff tribes were called either a carib or arawak because of their language.....
dougla_boy wrote:bump because more info is required ............
d spike wrote:dougla_boy wrote:bump because more info is required ............
Anything specific?
dougla_boy wrote:d spike wrote:dougla_boy wrote:bump because more info is required ............
Anything specific?
well i really like anything about the Spanish and Amerindians...
sMASH wrote:ent it was raleigh who was lookin for el dorado and he found the pitch lake?
) and you will note that he refers to it by the name the natives used to call it, "La Brea" - a Spanish name, NOT an Amerindian name... so Europeans had "discovered" it before he did... Viva Espana...sMASH wrote:wtf,,, lolz,,, de man was sumtin like ah pirate, then?
Seeker wrote:To me, the Spaniards considered all rivals for world dominion as pirates.
Are they the ones that attacked an english or dutch outpost in Florida and killed the inhabitants??
(can't remember all the details)
The French began taking an interest in the area, as well, leading the Spanish to accelerate their colonization plans. Jean Ribault led an expedition to Florida, and established Charlesfort on what is now Parris Island, South Carolina in 1562. René Goulaine de Laudonnière founded Fort Caroline in what is now Jacksonville, in 1564, as a haven for Protestant Huguenot settlers fleeing persecution in France and religious wars. The garrison at Charlesfort abandoned it and moved to Fort Caroline the same year.
Rowdy talks lead to T&T's Independence
By Louis B Homer South Bureau
Story Created: Jan 22, 2012 at 11:01 PM ECT
(Story Updated: Jan 22, 2012 at 11:01 PM ECT )
DURING the recent public debate on the selection and appointment of lawyers for silk, Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj, SC, said that, during his tenure as Attorney General, he had appointed Tajmool Hosein as one of three Queen's Counsel to interview applicants.
He described Hosein as "one of the finest legal brains and an outstanding constitutional lawyer".
Not many, though, would remember Hosein as one of the architects of Trinidad and Tobago Independence, of which the nation celebrates the 50th anniversary this year.
Hosein, who went to England in 1962 to assist in framing the Independence Constitution for Trinidad and Tobago, is still with us today.
Before that historic change from colonialism to Independence, a team of parliamentarians headed by Dr Eric Williams, then premier, travelled to London to attend the Marlborough House Conference, which was a forerunner to Independence.
Among those who attended was Hosein, a member of the Opposition Democratic Labour Party.
On the part he played as one of the legal advisers to the Trinidad and Tobago delegation, Hosein said, "I am happy to recall my attendance at the Independence conference at the Colonial Office in London. The Trinidad and Tobago Constitution was arrived at after much debate. It has worked quite well over the last 50 years, and it has provided constitutional remedies for the violation of constitutional rights, which are now being now being utilised in the courts on a daily basis by our citizens. In my view it has worked very well. It gives me great pleasure to recall the part I played in the preparation of the independence Constitution."
Hosein, a member of the Bar since 1946, was awarded silk in 1964 and the Trinity Cross in 1982. He is a former MP for Chaguanas and a member of the Opposition Democratic Labour Party (DLP), headed by Dr Rudranath Capildeo.
During the conference, several issues concerning Independence plagued the Opposition team.
"It was Hosein who was able to bring about unity among the Opposition team," said Lionel Seukeran, also a member of the Opposition delegation.
In his memoirs, Seukeran stated, "I was proud of Tajmool. He was a man of few words, but one of the greatest constitutional lawyers in the hemisphere."
Seukeran said it was Hosein who played the part of peacemaker at times when the Opposition seemed divided on certain issues.
Before its Independence in 1962, Trinidad and Tobago was a member of the ten-island West Indies Federation formed in 1958. Jamaica pulled out of the Federation in 1960 and later became Independent.
When Trinidad and Tobago decided to do likewise, Dr Eric Williams, reflecting the Jamaican stand, remarked in a famous quote, "One from ten leaves nought."
Following that statement, several discussions were held on the way forward for Trinidad and Tobago. Discussions on a proposed Constitution ended with a decision that a delegation of the Government, Opposition and Independent members should travel to England to discuss the independence of Trinidad and Tobago.
The Independence Conference opened at Marlborough House, London, on May 28, 1962 with Reginald Maudling MP, Secretary of State for the Colonies, chairing the proceedings.
The Trinidad and Tobago delegation comprised Dr Williams and his advisers.
The Opposition was led by doctor, physicist and mathematician Rudranath Capildeo supported by Hosein, solicitor Ashford Sinanan, economist Peter Farquhar, Stephen Maraj and Lionel Frank Seukeran.
Sir Patrick Hobson led a team of Independent members.
Speaking about what took place among members of the DLP, Seukeran recorded, "From very early the Opposition laboured under severe constraint. Our greatest problem was our own leader (Capildeo), who was incapacitated as he was wearing a cast and walking with crutches. He spent a great deal of time in his suite at Piccadilly Hotel while he was nursed by Maraj. He was moody and short-tempered, denying consultations and refusing to advise or be advised."
The conference convened each day with Maudling in the chair.
"Very early in the conference, Capildeo began to advocate for proportional representation, claiming that Indians in Trinidad were discriminated against and were advocating for equitable treatment. Capildeo was advised that his call was an internal matter to be discussed at the local level and not at the Independence conference. Capildeo persisted in his demands."
Seukeran at that stage told him, "I had always heard people say you are a mad man, and I am now fully convinced of that."
According to Seukeran, "Capildeo ranted and raved, threatening to break up the conference. He was told that if he continued in that vein he would be sent back to Trinidad the next day."
Capildeo replied, "Then you write my speech (for the opening of the conference)."
Seukeran said Farquhar and Hosein spent the whole night, prior to the opening of the conference, preparing the speech that they wanted Capildeo to read.
The speech was not given to him until the opening of the conference.
When the time came for Capildeo to read the speech, he did it, but was frowning as he read it.
"At the end of the speech, Capildeo was hailed as a great statesman," said Seukeran.
At the conference, the Opposition fought for constitutional safeguards to prevent an ambitious government from manipulating the Judiciary to its own advantage. They ensured that the three arms of government, the Executive, the Legislature and the Judiciary, exercised their functions independently of each other and that the separation of powers remained a reality.
Seukeran said after the conference the government had proposed that Justice Hugh McShine be appointed Chief Justice, but the Opposition wanted Sir Hugh Wooding.
"Dr Williams's choice for the position of Chief Justices was Justice McShine, but he bowed to the recommendation by the Opposition that the job should be given to Sir High Wooding," Seukeran stated.
At the end of the conference, it was announced from London that Trinidad and Tobago would become independent on August 31, 1962.
In three months, all arrangements were put in place for the celebration. At midnight on August 30, the Union Jack was lowered and the Trinidad and Tobago flag hoisted in the precincts of the Red House in Port of Spain.
This after 165 years of British rule.
After the flag-raising ceremony, there was a church service at the Trinity Cathedral and, later that day, there was a special sitting of Parliament at which the Throne Speech was read by The Princess Royal, who represented Queen Elizabeth II.
Yodins wrote:any more historical info on the animals in Trinidad/Tobago?
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