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[teems1]

So what's the general consensus about the iPhone 4 on bmobile launch? I'm curious if the phones are locked to bmobile & if so, if the Caller ID fix would be necessary or not.

Well judging from the posts the consensus seems to be -itis

too farking expensive

need to hand over too much $ to tstt upfront for them to "pay me back" with a bloated package.

also who on earth gives a hotspot with a phone! sigh, tstt really dropped the ball on this one

[shaq090]

i feel i gonna take a edge sim next week and wait till 3g come out...doh wanna bound myself to a 2 year contract that making me suffer and only to kill me if as daune said that 3g will release in September or October

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ I cannot confirm that all EDGE subscribers will automatically get 3G speeds once 3G is activated. Perhaps they may have separate billing and pricing, perhaps it will be ONLY as a package deal or with bandwidth caps (not unlimited like EDGE is now at $150 per month).

I am not sure what they will do.

[SRASC]

Interesting screenshots from SpeechTrans Ultimate Powered By Nuance just hit our inbox. Some of the screenshots seem to depict an iPhone with a 4-inch screen.

Nuance is widely believed to be working deeply with Apple on their speech recognition technology but this is a third party app so the chances are slim that SpeechTrans knows something. Maybe they just pasted screenshots that were too big on their App..Another beauty below:

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

also who on earth gives a hotspot with a phone! sigh, tstt really dropped the ball on this one

they had to give the hotspot because they don't have 3G ready as yet - and AFAIK you can't be a carrier for the iPhone 3G, 3GS or 4 without having 3G on your network.

Smartphones are pretty pointless without data. The iTunes App Store app doesnt work at all on EDGE.

[Parvin]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

[src1983]

Yea it works, used it once

[Parvin]

How you get it to work?

I keep getting the 'Waiting for activation' message when i enable it.

And yes I connected to wifi

[brickman]

^ I cannot confirm that all EDGE subscribers will automatically get 3G speeds once 3G is activated. Perhaps they may have separate billing and pricing, perhaps it will be ONLY as a package deal or with bandwidth caps (not unlimited like EDGE is now at $150 per month).

I am not sure what they will do.

Well just about every man jack has a 3g capable phone,thing is will they be able to maintain a good 3g service when everybody jump in.Remember how it was when they first launched gprs/edge and now.I personally like my hotspot cause with not many users the 4g traffic is low,dont have to wait till after midnight to download sh!t or watch a vid on youtube.Its how they will handle the 3g traffic is the issue & we know how bmobile service operates when they ready.Speed & price will be my deciding factors to getting this if they bring it out cause some tstt people saying no & some saying yes & some saying next year.

[src1983]

How you get it to work?

I keep getting the 'Waiting for activation' message when i enable it.

And yes I connected to wifi

Don't know just worked for me as I enabled it, it became active.....lol

Maybe the gurus here could share some light

I'm on digital network btw, don't know if that has anything to do with it

[Parvin]

I got it now, in case anyone else wants to

Quote Originally Posted by Netcruzer View Post

Hey. I was in the same boat, I have a Telus locked iPhone, unlocked with Gevey, trying to use on Rogers. I could do everything but activate facetime, well after 4 days trying (mitime didn't work for me), I figured out a way to get facetime working for FREE.

First, get to your desired firmware (I'm running 4.3.3), jailbreak it (may not be necessary, but I jailbroke mine), and ensure it's properly activated and that push is working. Either use a legit sim, or SAM to activate.

Then, use the program DISK AID, connect to the root of your iPhone.
Navigate to System > Library > Carrier bundles > iPhone > Unknown.bundle

Save out the carrier.plist that is in unknown.bundle. Save it to your desktop somewhere you can find it later.

Then, navigate to your intended carrier bundle, for example, mine was Rogers, so I went into the Rogers_ca.bundle, copy the carrier.pist from here into the unknown.bundle folder.

You have just overwritten the stock unknown carrier plist with the Rogers carrier plist.

The reason for this is so that you can use the correct number registration used for facetime activations.

Reboot your iPhone. Do the gevey process again. If you can't see the option to edit your "Cellular Data Network" in Settings > General > Network, then it worked. To clarify, it should be missing.

So, now you have verified that you are using the Rogers carrier.plist. Go to Settings > Phone > and Turn ON facetime.
It will send a text message to the proper Rogers auth number (49988) instead of the UK number the unknown carrier tried to use.

You will be authorized! FaceTime works. Congrats.

Now.. you could leave it as is, but you might not have wifi tethering support.

To enable tethering, reconnect your phone to DISK AID and restore the saved unknown.bundle carrier.plist into the uknown.carrier folder.

Reboot.
Do Gevey process again.
Go to Settings > General > Network > Cellular Data Network, and reset settings.
It should clear all APNs
Manually re-enter your carrier settings for APN, MMS and Tether.

Exit

Everything should now be working, Push, Facetime, Cell Data, WiFi Tether.
You're welcome!

NOTES: This process of swapping the carrier.plist file into the unknown bundle folder should work to enable facetime with any OFFICIAL carrier.

You must copy the plists around because editing them is not possible, the plists on iOS 4.x are signed and cannot be changed, but you CAN move them around.

[Stephon.]

spoke to a director at Digicel over the weekend. They have no plans to sell in iphone in the near future. They said business people prefer blackberry for their business plans and it's working for them.

What about 3G, do they have plans of upgrading??

Look at digicel's history, since launch what new tech. have they really brought to us?

Nothing to write home about, they fool people with cheap rates which work half the time.

Digicel is the network choice of pipers/tradesmen etc. Almost every mason/carpenter/taxi driver i know prefer to use digicel for some reason

Funny but true, it's like the Sprint of Trinidad.

[996vtwin]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

I have used facetime since a while now, tt - us. I have a factory unlocked but I think the foreign charges were high.

[996vtwin]

Exactly what becomes of factory unlock phone sorry for not searching.

[9z4dma]

the iPhone 4 16GB is C&W LIME/Bmobile locked model MC603ZQ/A - Jamaica

Bmobile is cutting the regular SIM with a SIM cutter as they have no microSIM as yet.

and the correct iPhone Plan Packages are now reflected on the website

http://bmobile.co.tt/iphone-4-16gb/

[Parvin]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

I have used facetime since a while now, tt - us. I have a factory unlocked but I think the foreign charges were high.

Doesn't FaceTime use wifi ... making it free for both parties?

[Stephon.]

bmobile said they cannot help you if you have an unlocked iphone not purchased from them...

Them really hate this country boi

[shaq090]

the iPhone 4 16GB is C&W LIME/Bmobile locked model MC603ZQ/A - Jamaica

Bmobile is cutting the regular SIM with a SIM cutter as they have no microSIM as yet.

and the correct iPhone Plan Packages are now reflected on the website

http://bmobile.co.tt/iphone-4-16gb/

wdf is more now???? but what d faking mudders dutty kant stinking ole hoes

[mojosodope]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

I have used facetime since a while now, tt - us. I have a factory unlocked but I think the foreign charges were high.

Doesn't FaceTime use wifi ... making it free for both parties?

Yeah it does, facetime works perfectly for me and it is free but for the intiall activation requries facetime to send an sms which may incur additional fees, its a one time thing just for the activation but I never had any additional fee.

when I was on 4.0 and 4.0.1 , when I first got my iPhone 4, I paid $5 and used MiTime to unlock it on my jailbroken phone.

Ever since 4.2.1 came out tho facetime always activated on its own, just play around with the on/off repeatedly, it should eventually activate.

[GTcruzer]

I'm not sure if i have valid points at all but i was wondering;
If Apple originally made it's iPhone 2g, 3g & 3gs for AT&T & then the iPhone 4 for AT&T and Verizon..... how can bmobile sell it? These iPhones from bmobile would still need to be jailbroken right? & wasn't jailbreaking necessary to allow the device to work on another network besides AT&T orignally?

These were just a few things that i'm not certain of & would like clarification.... thanks

[SRASC]

the iPhone 4 16GB is C&W LIME/Bmobile locked model MC603ZQ/A - Jamaica

Bmobile is cutting the regular SIM with a SIM cutter as they have no microSIM as yet.

and the correct iPhone Plan Packages are now reflected on the website

http://bmobile.co.tt/iphone-4-16gb/

Just in case anyone else is curious where their iPhone 4 came from go to

Code: Select all

Settings\General\About\Model

& match up to code:

United Arab Emirates
16G MC603AB/B
32G MC605AB/B

Australia
16G MC603X/A
32G MC605X/A

China
16G MC603CH/A
32G MC605CH/A

Hong Kong
16G MC603ZP/A
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32G MC605ZP/A

Japan
16G MC603J/A
32G MC605J/A

Korea
16G MC603KH/A
32G MC605KH/A

Macau
16G MC603ZP/A
32G MC605ZP/A

Malaysia
16G MC603ZA/A
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New Zealand
16G MC603X/A
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Philippines
16G MC603PP/A
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Singapore
16G MC603ZA/A
32G MC605ZA/A

Taiwan
16G MC603TA/A
32G MC605TA/A

Thailand
16G MC603TH/A
32G MC605TH/A

Bulgaria
16G MC603BG/A
32G MC605BG/A

Danmark
16G MC603KN/A
32G MC605KN/A

Germany
16G MC603DN/A
32G MC605DN/A

Estonia
16G MC603EE/A
32G MC605EE/A

Spain
16G MC603Y/A
32G MC605Y/A

France
16G MC603NF/A
16G MC603FB/A
32G MC605NF/A
32G MC605FB/A

Greece
16G MC603GR/A
32G MC605GR/A

Croatia
16G MC603CR/A
32G MC605CR/A

Ireland
16G MC603B/A
32G MC605B/A

Italy
16G MC603IP/A
32G MC605IP/A

Latvia
16G MC603LV/A
32G MC605LV/A

Liechtenstein
16G MC603FD/A
32G MC605FD/A

Luxembourg
16G MC603NF/A
16G MC603FB/A
32G MC605NF/A
32G MC605FB/A

Macedonia
16G MC603MM/A
32G MC605MM/A

Malta
16G MC603B/A
32G MC605B/A

Moldova
16G MC603RO/A
32G MC605RO/A

Montenegro
16G MC603MM/A
32G MC605MM/A

Netherlands
16G MC603DN/A
32G MC605DN/A

Norway
16G MC603KN/A
32G MC605KN/A

Austria
16G MC603FD/A
32G MC605FD/A

Poland
16G MC603PL/A
32G MC605PL/A

Portugal
16G MC603PO/A
32G MC605PO/A

Romania
16G MC603RO/A
32G MC605RO/A

Russia
16G MC603RS/A
32G MC605RS/A

Slovakia
16G MC603SL/A
32G MC605SL/A

Switzerland
16G MC603FD/A
32G MC605FD/A

Finland
16G MC603KS/A
32G MC605KS/A

Sweden
16G MC603KS/A
32G MC605KS/A

Turkey
16G MC603TU/A
32G MC605TU/A

UK
16G MC603B/A
32G MC605B/A

Argentina
16G MC603LE/A
32G MC605LE/A

Brazil
16G MC603BZ/A
32G MC605BZ/A

Chile
16G MC603LZ/A
32G MC605LZ/A

Colombia
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Dominican
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Ecuador
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

El Salvador
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Guatemala
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Honduras
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Jamaica
16G MC603ZQ/A
32G MC605ZQ/A

Mexico
16G MC603E/A
32G MC605E/A

Nicaragua
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Panama
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Paraguay
16G MC603LZ/A
32G MC605LZ/A

Peru
16G MC603LA/A
32G MC605LA/A

Uruguay
16G MC603LZ/A
32G MC605LZ/A

Canada
16G MC603C/A
32G MC605C/A

USA
16G MC608LL/A
16G MC318LL/A
32G MC610LL/A
32G MC319LL/A

South Africa
16G MC603SO/A
32G MC605SO/A

Well that answers one question. Still curious about the Caller ID thing.

I'm not sure if i have valid points at all but i was wondering;
If Apple originally made it's iPhone 2g, 3g & 3gs for AT&T & then the iPhone 4 for AT&T and Verizon..... how can bmobile sell it? These iPhones from bmobile would still need to be jailbroken right? & wasn't jailbreaking necessary to allow the device to work on another network besides AT&T orignally?

These were just a few things that i'm not certain of & would like clarification.... thanks

There were models made specifically for various countries & carriers around the world as well. That list above shows a good bit of them if not all.

[Parvin]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

I have used facetime since a while now, tt - us. I have a factory unlocked but I think the foreign charges were high.

Doesn't FaceTime use wifi ... making it free for both parties?

Yeah it does, facetime works perfectly for me and it is free but for the intiall activation requries facetime to send an sms which may incur additional fees, its a one time thing just for the activation but I never had any additional fee.

when I was on 4.0 and 4.0.1 , when I first got my iPhone 4, I paid $5 and used MiTime to unlock it on my jailbroken phone.

Ever since 4.2.1 came out tho facetime always activated on its own, just play around with the on/off repeatedly, it should eventually activate.

I guess it was activated on 4.2.1 for you since you had done it on the previous versions.

I got it activated via the guide i posted there. Just that where it stated

"Reboot your iPhone. Do the gevey process again. If you can't see the option to edit your "Cellular Data Network" in Settings > General > Network, then it worked. To clarify, it should be missing."

mine was still there.

[phreak]

By chance, does anyone have FaceTime working?

yeah actually.. been using facetime on my factory unlocked since i got it late last year.. works great..

activation just took about 10 seconds then it just worked.. "like magic".. lol..

[Bezman]

so i been buggin my partner to try his old sim, (cut it and try it) he tells me bmobile cut his old sim to his shock.. so its no special sim... this is more and more ridiculous..

[Bezman]

No people...
U pay the initial deposit 6000 then u pay 500 a month for the first year...then tecnically u pay 500 a month afterwards but its taken from ur deposit which will run u for the last 12 months of ur service

my partner who bought one said nothing about that... he said he not getting back anything, is level 500 in ya tail for 2 years, god knows how much more after that

[Parvin]

Does the SAM utility make a difference on the iphone 4?

I know it helped with the battery drain issue and push notifications on the 3GS, but does the iphone 4 really need it or has a better result using it?

[shaq090]

No people...
U pay the initial deposit 6000 then u pay 500 a month for the first year...then tecnically u pay 500 a month afterwards but its taken from ur deposit which will run u for the last 12 months of ur service

my partner who bought one said nothing about that... he said he not getting back anything, is level 500 in ya tail for 2 years, god knows how much more after that

u doh get it back physically or back in ur bank account...think of it u give them 6000 to hold for u...u pay for the first year of ur 2 year contract and the 6nd year they pay the bill with ur 6000 u gave them at the start...and i know how u feeling now...they does confuse the customer...they does keep telling u that u have to pay a certain amount every month...but they kinda correct...its ur $$$ but they just giving u it back in monthly bill payments..hope this helped u understand their con man strategy

[S_2NR]

bmobile acting like this iphone is a diamond!

[M_2NR]

Look at digicel's history, since launch what new tech. have they really brought to us?

Nothing to write home about, they fool people with cheap rates which work half the time.

Digicel is the network choice of pipers/tradesmen etc. Almost every mason/carpenter/taxi driver i know prefer to use digicel for some reason

aye fck you eh

shittycell > bsmobile aite... OARRRRR

wait what...

But seriously though, because they are tied so deeply with bmobile, I doubt Digicel can ever make any significant impact wrt to tech in Trinidad.

Does the SAM utility make a difference on the iphone 4?

I know it helped with the battery drain issue and push notifications on the 3GS, but does the iphone 4 really need it or has a better result using it?

yea, once you are HACKTIVATED and not using an official sim to activate your iPhone, SAM is needed.

[Bezman]

No people...
U pay the initial deposit 6000 then u pay 500 a month for the first year...then tecnically u pay 500 a month afterwards but its taken from ur deposit which will run u for the last 12 months of ur service

my partner who bought one said nothing about that... he said he not getting back anything, is level 500 in ya tail for 2 years, god knows how much more after that

u doh get it back physically or back in ur bank account...think of it u give them 6000 to hold for u...u pay for the first year of ur 2 year contract and the 6nd year they pay the bill with ur 6000 u gave them at the start...and i know how u feeling now...they does confuse the customer...they does keep telling u that u have to pay a certain amount every month...but they kinda correct...its ur $$$ but they just giving u it back in monthly bill payments..hope this helped u understand their con man strategy

i politely would like to tell you you are incorrect..

you are paying $6000 for the phone, and he explained that without paying the $6000 for the phone, the unlimited $500 package he is taking would have been worth $750 a month, so only $250 is being subsidized (absorbed) by your $6000 payment for the device in that case... there is no half paid months, no refund of your down-payment, nothing... you do not get back the money after 2 years... no

bmobile is NOT giving you back anything, i asked him to clarify... he did, he said after the 2 years the phone is his and thats it, he can either expend his contract or take a new package..