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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 1:39 pm

Mitch, you remember Android when it was 4Months old?

*shudder*

Don't even try and compare the two. It was a pure geek fest. My friend had the G1 the day it came out in the states. Compare that to my HD7 and there is no comparison not in terms of features(Years have passed cannot compare different time periods) But more so in terms of ease of use, fluidity, and responsiveness.

I want android to succeed but Google NEEDS to put their foot down on some of these devices they're allowing to be pushed out on their OS. They're fuc- king it up. Motorola's Motoblur is hideous and kid like, Samsung is wasting all their time on Touch Wiz, and forgetting to upgrade their handsets. HTC sense is not that bad, but WHY...vanilla Android is all that is needed.

Ppl are arguing that the OEM's need to do it, to distinguish themselves...but the sector of the population (us the nerds, the tech heads whatever) that actually understands what ROM, RAM, Mhz and MaH mean are but a small tiny of a fraction of a fraction. All the general public knows is "I love what my droid can do, but why is my friends iPhone so much more responsive". Then ppl like us gotta come and explain "Well you gotta turn off this, make sure that, run this type of rom and don't use live wallpapers etc etc" They're just gonna siddong and watch you with a blank stare.

Everytime I meet an Android person, and I have to explain ways in which to speed up their phone, they watch me like I'm speaking greek. The general n00b population doesn't care about that sheit, they just want it TO WORK.

That's why I said Android would soon go the way of WM6.5, 6, 5 ... because soon the Vanilla Android you crave so much, will become lost in a sea of inferior products and all ppl gonna kno is "my phone slow" That's my whole point :? Google needs to clamp down on the foolishness. The Moto Atrix is EXACTLY what I knew was gonna happen.

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Re: The *Official* ANDROID/GOOGLE Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 2:02 pm

RASC wrote:I like the way the U/I has grown up a bit in the Galaxy S 2 tho...
I'm looking for less nerd/tech green and more mature polish. Sharper lines and a more contemporary grown up look...not to mention dual cores before I jump on board.

I doh wanna have to be side loading anything or flashing nuttin to get the thing to work smoothly.

Saw this on XDA-(This is EXACTLY how I used to feel about symbian themes, there would always be this one screen or couple of screens that did not mesh with the overall theme...hated that. I want it to be flush, seemless and clean through out)

...the third thing is its lack of consistency. like i said earlier, i customized my ROMs a lot. My home screens, icon sets, fonts, and launcher theme all were consistent. Then when you open an app (the dialer for example) its a whole different look. This may not bother some people but it bothered me quite a bit and im sure im not the only one...


wayzz boi, this man contradicting himself in one thread, somebody explain to this dude that when u make a post, its their for all to remember, the man say he waiting on dual core to jump on android, the man say he like how the samsung galaxy S 2 maturing, now he talkin opposite.

HTC Magic all the way to Nexus 1, as long as HTC making android phones, u would get the necessary spped and quality

i doh evene study dual core, that has nothing to do with the speed, what has to impact on speed is how u OPTIMIZE your OS for the hardware. and u cant downplay motoblur and touchwiz and sense, because there are ppl who love those UI's

and hoss if u have to tell ppl how to make their phone run properly, that is sad, cause u probably dont even know hoe to use get the android SDK running on your computer

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Re: The *Official* ANDROID/GOOGLE Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 2:07 pm

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RASC wrote:so I watched the full video of the galaxy s 2. I just duno how you guys making out with all that lag. When he got to the camera app... Wow... Horrendous! I wanna jump on board but geez man that's too much. The uneven scrolling was just too much to bere... Not to mention the load icon that keeps popping up. What's taking so long with he dual cores man. :S

At least the UI looks a bit more mature and refined. Not like some nerd in a basement did the styling. Far off from the sleek contemporary metro UI on wp7... But at least it's a start, and getting away from the kiddie look.

OEMs need to get those dual cores rocking asap. This lag issue is killing it. The iPhone 5 is coming out this year...not to mention Nokia teaming with you know who...


the man jus said that he KNEW that the dual core would run slowly, like somebody else have access to RASC account, he would say that Android 2.3 does not have built in support for dual core

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 2:14 pm

Back to regular scheduled programming

Desert Winds Game Demoed on Android + Snapdragon, Beats PS2 Graphics


When we heard Android graphics would eventually near or surpass the performance of consoles such as the Xbox or PlayStation 2, we had trouble visualizing how. We didn’t know what, when, where, and who would blow us away. The Epic Citadel was pretty impressive, but I think a new king has shown up.

The folks at Southern Interactive introduced their new game – Desert Winds – and gave Pockett an exclusive preview of the demo running on Android.

They didn’t mention which Snapdragon chipset was being used exactly, but we can’t imagine anything less than a dual-core processor was being used with Qualcomm’s Adreno 3xx series of GPUs set to ship to OEMs this year. We had more on these chipsets in this post back in November.

Take a look at the video above and form your own opinion. I’m not sure how soon we’ll see games like this pop up regularly for Android, but we’ll be partying once that day comes

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Re: The *Official* ANDROID/GOOGLE Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 2:46 pm

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I'm not even gonna go back and explain to you what was said.
Furthermore I did not contradict myself. Read & Re-Read what I said.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby SUPAstarr » February 28th, 2011, 3:01 pm

so what is the current best android fone out there, is it still the desire or is the new atrix 4g the new power house???

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 3:13 pm

SUPAstarr wrote:so what is the current best android fone out there, is it still the desire or is the new atrix 4g the new power house???


thats a hard question to answer, i have a thing for HTC phones, overall they give u the most bang for your buck and u dont have to worry to much about your upgrades, but if u like touchWiz which some ppl do or even Motoblur which some ppl do, then u have lots of choices

If i had to pick right now, i would go with a HTC G2 (though i'm afraid of the hinge) or the Desire HD

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 3:16 pm

They Weren’t Kidding When They Named it Xoom!

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Let the image above sink in some. If you don't yet own a Xoom (like me), then you can begin to be envious of the sheer power that owners of the latest Android device have in their grubby little hands. The folks over at Boy Genius Report found the above screenshot and the news that a dev in the community has successfully overclocked the Xoom to 1.5 GHz. Which, as you can see, blows away the current smartphone benchmarks we have right now.

A quote from the article:

XDA forum member coolbho300 has managed to tweak the XOOM’s kernel to get both Cortex-A9 cores running at a benchmark-shredding 1.5GHz. ”I have successfully brought the Tegra 2 in the XOOM to 1.5GHz,” writes coolbho300 in a forum post. “A few kernel modifications make the dual core chip in the XOOM even more powerful than the recently announced Tegra 2 3D. 1.5GHz through two Cortex A9 cores is truly a force to be reckoned with."

I can feel the wind as the current Xoom owners are herding over to the XDA Forums to try the process out, just one note of caution as you do, be careful with your new toy!

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 3:40 pm

SUPAstarr wrote:so what is the current best android fone out there, is it still the desire or is the new atrix 4g the new power house???



Do not get the new Atrix 4G.
Don't let the dual core BS fool you, moto slapped motoblur on it, making it a laggy mess.

The rest of the phone is only slightly more responsive than an old nexus one. SLIGHTLY :?

Did I mention lag? Pinch to Zoom is atrocious-the reviewers online want to chuck it out the window. If you're a fandroid tho, who likes a little lag, by all means go ahead. Otherwise wait until a Google branded dual core phone comes out with 2.4. Because the OEM's with their foolish skins just can't seem to get ANYTHING right :roll:

BTW expect to hear this alot also "OHHH 2.3 isn't optimized for dual core" uh huh yeah...you gotta wait-sometime later this year. Cause 2.4 (Ice-Cream) isn't even out yet :lol: They're thinking sometime this summer? So anything with Dual Core that ISN'T vanilla Android, you'll be wasting your time.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 3:47 pm

Liam...read this article:

http://phandroid.com/2011/01/10/android ... google-io/

The comments are hilarious...no one knows wtf is going on. Fragmentation FTMFW :lol:

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby SUPAstarr » February 28th, 2011, 3:48 pm

RASC wrote:Liam...read this article:

http://phandroid.com/2011/01/10/android ... google-io/

The comments are hilarious...no one knows wtf is going on. Fragmentation FTMFW :lol:



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHA


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Postby SUPAstarr » February 28th, 2011, 3:52 pm

but yea i wondered the same, why not jus release honeycomb for tablets alone an let all fones go over to ice cream

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 3:57 pm

That was an ANDROID geek forum and ppl still lost :?
Can you imagine what the general n00b population is thinking:


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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby RASC » February 28th, 2011, 4:08 pm

Wait Wait Wait...I'm now learning 2.4 is NOT ice-cream, but instead gingerbread :?

3.xx will be Ice-Cream?

FANdroids...fill me in nah, cause the tech news out there is a bit much to compress right now, fragmentation and all.
Is it also a fact that 2.3xx isn't optimized for Dual-Core? And the public must truly wait til 2.4 to fully take advantage of the extra power? If that is true, why doesn't Google just slap OEM's and tell them to relax their batty until 2.4 comes on stream...why are they being so greedy? Moto is ruining the OS image by releasing unoptimized phones. The Atrix is a POS that just makes ALL of Android look bad.

Argh man, why can't this OS just be stream lined. That's why I'm telling you guys, too much openness is not a good thing.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 5:39 pm

Now this is a true story of how proper coding and optimization can make a big diference

Yesterday we told you about the Firefox 4 Beta 5 for Android that was released to the Android Market yesterday morning. Mozilla claims they have not only made it more stable, and more efficient. They also mentioned two things that are a huge part of what browser I use on my Android Phone and that is speed, and size. With each beta release the browser has got a little faster, and the file size once installed has got a little smaller. When it was first released to beta it was slow and huge and not able to transfer to your SD card. Things have changed with the last few updates and Mozilla and Firefox are well on their way to having a great browser for mobile.

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So just how fast is the latest beta 5. FAST! We here have been testing it ourselves and I used it for most of the night. Things seem to be steadily improving in all those area’s they mentioned. Above we have a graph for you that is showing Firefox 4 Beta 5 on multiple devices all showing significant speed improvements. Tested on the Galaxy S, the Nexus S and One, as well as the Galaxy Tab for a wide variety of models and Android versions. Seems to be pretty stable and fast across the board. Take into consideration this is just one test out of many. They also had a graph of the Javascript V8 Engine with similar performance improvements.

Whether you plan to change browsers or not, it’s always fun to try new things and I recommend giving it a little test drive. For those using Firefox as a daily driver, check out this Add-On called Quit Fennec that will close the browser completely to conserve battery rather than use a task killer.

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Postby achillies » February 28th, 2011, 6:04 pm

RASC, all the information u need is right here, just have to know where to look, its not as difficult as u make out to be, all u had to do was GOOGLE it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%2 ... _system%29

and as to the version history, it was one click away

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history

Any other further questions, u can just let me know, but im sure most the information u need can be found right here http://lmgtfy.com/

And always remember, the openess is why android has dethroned Nokia as the highest selling OS on this planet, iOS has been out longer and could not even dream of doing that, and well right now WP7 is pretty much insignificant.

I admit the OS has some positives going for it, but it just cant offer what i want, sad to say.

if u need me, imma be over at http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/ and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... 6&page=147

u mus take a pass through sometime, u might enjoy it, LOL!!!

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Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 6:20 am

Motorola Atrix 4G review
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It's finally here -- our Atrix 4G review! We know you've waited and wondered, and we've finally had enough time with the phone, laptop dock, HD / desktop dock, and all the accessories to give you a proper take on this utterly unique smartphone. Did we say smartphone? Really that's not quite right, because the dual-core-CPU-sporting device actually does quadruple duty as a laptop, set top box, desktop computer, and... well, it works as a smartphone too. The Atrix 4G, which sports a 4-inch, 960 x 540 display, HSPA+ data, and a slew of other juicy specs is absolutely the first of its kind -- a multi-use device intended to replace your netbook (and maybe more) via its Webtop environment. But can a phone be powerful enough to become your laptop or hub of your home theater? Is Motorola's new phone set to be the king of the Android heap, or just another face in the crowd? All these questions (and more) will be answered in our full review... which you can read after the break!
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The hardware of the Atrix 4G is notable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is design. The body of the phone is largely plastic, but don't let that bother you too much -- it's put together so solidly that it feels like a much pricier material. The handset measures 2.5 inches wide by 4.63 inches long, and just 0.43 inches thick, which means that the Atrix is nearly as thin as the iPhone 4 -- quite a feat considering how much horsepower is packed inside. The phone probably gains a little of its solidness via its weight, which clocks in at a not-feathery 135 grams (about 4.8 ounces) -- and we like that a lot.

Like most slate phones, the front of the device is nearly all screen, save for the familiar Android buttons along the bottom, and the front-facing camera and earpiece up top. Along the top rear of the phone is a power / sleep button which just happens to be a fingerprint scanner too, and the 3.5mm headphone jack. Along the right side of the phone is the volume rocker (easily accessible with your thumb during calls if you're right handed). On the left side you'll find the Micro USB and HDMI ports. Around back, the stylishly patterned casing is broken by the 5 megapixel camera with LED flash, and a speaker along the bottom of the phone.

As far as truly unique hardware goes, the fingerprint scanner seems fairly novel -- but in practice it's a little frustrating. It does work as advertised, but being told to re-swipe your finger if it doesn't take when you're trying to get into the phone quickly can be a little bothersome. Unless you really need the high security, a standard passcode will suffice for most people.

Fingerprint scanner quibbles aside, the Atrix 4G is one of the better looking Android devices we've had a chance to use. We would have liked to see higher quality materials in play here, but despite the housing, the phone comes off as both sleek and rugged -- a great combo for something that will likely be doing double (if not triple) duty in your connected world. From an industrial design standpoint, this device more than holds its own against the the best of the best on the market right now.
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Of course, the Atrix 4G isn't really about looks -- it's about raw power. You know that Motorola isn't kidding around by packing this handset with a blazing 1GHz dual core CPU, 1GB of DDR2 RAM, 16GB of storage onboard (plus a microSD slot for another 32GB). Along with the massive internal horsepower, the device boasts a 960 x 540 capacitive touchscreen that Motorola is calling its qHD display -- which also happens to be covered with Corning's Gorilla Glass. You'll also find the requisite radios here -- WiFi 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, and of course that HSPA+ GSM number which allows AT&T to (somewhat liberally) call this phone a 4G device (more on that in a moment). The phone also has a light and proximity sensor, as well as a built in accelerometer and compass.

To put it simply, this is one of the fastest (if not the fastest) Android phones we've ever used. Getting around the phone doing even complex tasks was insanely speedy, and we rarely if ever found ourselves waiting for something to load. Scrolling between homescreens or managing apps and widgets was silky smooth, and feels competitive with the likes of the iPhone 4 or EVO 4G. The phone absolutely blazes as a standalone handset, and we were consistently impressed with how deftly it was able to take on whatever we threw at it; even when playing new 3D game titles like Gun Bros, we didn't see a hint of lag.

As far as the display goes, we're extremely excited to see new Android phones taking higher resolution screens. With the added real estate the qHD provides, we were able to get a lot more utility out of Gmail, the browser, and a handful of other content-heavy applications, and text and images looked crystal clear on the display. There were some issues with Android applications that don't properly take advantage of increased resolution, but they were few and far between -- for the vast majority of software we used, the display worked beautifully. Touch response was also excellent, though we can't say if that's due to the screen technology at play here, or that super fast CPU. One item of note -- the display is difficult to see in bright daylight, and the automatic brightness adjustment didn't quite do the trick.

On the battery side, the Atrix 4G packs an impressive 1930mAh battery inside, and even though Android is data intensive, we found ourselves squeezing more than 24 hours out of the device on a single charge with fairly heavy use. You can probably get more time out of the device if you avoid calls when possible and keep your brightness settings in check, but we were pleasantly surprised by the performance we saw.
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Nothing is dinky about the Atrix 4G, and that extends to the cameras too. The real highlight here is the 5 megapixel shooter on the back of the device, which cranks out impressive shots in both high- and low- light, and can be customized quickly for various settings. The camera also functions as a 720p video camera, and we had great results capturing HD content on the device. Even in low light, the results looked sharp.

On the still shot front, we were impressed by the macro capabilities of the camera, but found that some of the images had a purpleish hue that was slightly worrisome. It's not a dealbreaker, but we didn't think that the color quality or saturation was exactly what it could be. As far as video goes, we were impressed with the lack of shake even when walking briskly, though we're disappointed that the device goes into a fixed-focus mode when capturing video (see in action below), which makes it difficult to shoot a variety of subjects at once.

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Motorola Atrix 4G review
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It's finally here -- our Atrix 4G review! We know you've waited and wondered, and we've finally had enough time with the phone, laptop dock, HD / desktop dock, and all the accessories to give you a proper take on this utterly unique smartphone. Did we say smartphone? Really that's not quite right, because the dual-core-CPU-sporting device actually does quadruple duty as a laptop, set top box, desktop computer, and... well, it works as a smartphone too. The Atrix 4G, which sports a 4-inch, 960 x 540 display, HSPA+ data, and a slew of other juicy specs is absolutely the first of its kind -- a multi-use device intended to replace your netbook (and maybe more) via its Webtop environment. But can a phone be powerful enough to become your laptop or hub of your home theater? Is Motorola's new phone set to be the king of the Android heap, or just another face in the crowd? All these questions (and more) will be answered in our full review... which you can read after the break!
Atrix 4G full hands-on


Hardware

The hardware of the Atrix 4G is notable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is design. The body of the phone is largely plastic, but don't let that bother you too much -- it's put together so solidly that it feels like a much pricier material. The handset measures 2.5 inches wide by 4.63 inches long, and just 0.43 inches thick, which means that the Atrix is nearly as thin as the iPhone 4 -- quite a feat considering how much horsepower is packed inside. The phone probably gains a little of its solidness via its weight, which clocks in at a not-feathery 135 grams (about 4.8 ounces) -- and we like that a lot.

Like most slate phones, the front of the device is nearly all screen, save for the familiar Android buttons along the bottom, and the front-facing camera and earpiece up top. Along the top rear of the phone is a power / sleep button which just happens to be a fingerprint scanner too, and the 3.5mm headphone jack. Along the right side of the phone is the volume rocker (easily accessible with your thumb during calls if you're right handed). On the left side you'll find the Micro USB and HDMI ports. Around back, the stylishly patterned casing is broken by the 5 megapixel camera with LED flash, and a speaker along the bottom of the phone.

As far as truly unique hardware goes, the fingerprint scanner seems fairly novel -- but in practice it's a little frustrating. It does work as advertised, but being told to re-swipe your finger if it doesn't take when you're trying to get into the phone quickly can be a little bothersome. Unless you really need the high security, a standard passcode will suffice for most people.

Fingerprint scanner quibbles aside, the Atrix 4G is one of the better looking Android devices we've had a chance to use. We would have liked to see higher quality materials in play here, but despite the housing, the phone comes off as both sleek and rugged -- a great combo for something that will likely be doing double (if not triple) duty in your connected world. From an industrial design standpoint, this device more than holds its own against the the best of the best on the market right now.

Internals / display / battery life

Of course, the Atrix 4G isn't really about looks -- it's about raw power. You know that Motorola isn't kidding around by packing this handset with a blazing 1GHz dual core CPU, 1GB of DDR2 RAM, 16GB of storage onboard (plus a microSD slot for another 32GB). Along with the massive internal horsepower, the device boasts a 960 x 540 capacitive touchscreen that Motorola is calling its qHD display -- which also happens to be covered with Corning's Gorilla Glass. You'll also find the requisite radios here -- WiFi 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, and of course that HSPA+ GSM number which allows AT&T to (somewhat liberally) call this phone a 4G device (more on that in a moment). The phone also has a light and proximity sensor, as well as a built in accelerometer and compass.

To put it simply, this is one of the fastest (if not the fastest) Android phones we've ever used. Getting around the phone doing even complex tasks was insanely speedy, and we rarely if ever found ourselves waiting for something to load. Scrolling between homescreens or managing apps and widgets was silky smooth, and feels competitive with the likes of the iPhone 4 or EVO 4G. The phone absolutely blazes as a standalone handset, and we were consistently impressed with how deftly it was able to take on whatever we threw at it; even when playing new 3D game titles like Gun Bros, we didn't see a hint of lag.

As far as the display goes, we're extremely excited to see new Android phones taking higher resolution screens. With the added real estate the qHD provides, we were able to get a lot more utility out of Gmail, the browser, and a handful of other content-heavy applications, and text and images looked crystal clear on the display. There were some issues with Android applications that don't properly take advantage of increased resolution, but they were few and far between -- for the vast majority of software we used, the display worked beautifully. Touch response was also excellent, though we can't say if that's due to the screen technology at play here, or that super fast CPU. One item of note -- the display is difficult to see in bright daylight, and the automatic brightness adjustment didn't quite do the trick.

On the battery side, the Atrix 4G packs an impressive 1930mAh battery inside, and even though Android is data intensive, we found ourselves squeezing more than 24 hours out of the device on a single charge with fairly heavy use. You can probably get more time out of the device if you avoid calls when possible and keep your brightness settings in check, but we were pleasantly surprised by the performance we saw.

Cameras

Nothing is dinky about the Atrix 4G, and that extends to the cameras too. The real highlight here is the 5 megapixel shooter on the back of the device, which cranks out impressive shots in both high- and low- light, and can be customized quickly for various settings. The camera also functions as a 720p video camera, and we had great results capturing HD content on the device. Even in low light, the results looked sharp.
Atrix 4G camera shots

On the still shot front, we were impressed by the macro capabilities of the camera, but found that some of the images had a purpleish hue that was slightly worrisome. It's not a dealbreaker, but we didn't think that the color quality or saturation was exactly what it could be. As far as video goes, we were impressed with the lack of shake even when walking briskly, though we're disappointed that the device goes into a fixed-focus mode when capturing video (see in action below), which makes it difficult to shoot a variety of subjects at once.


There's also a VGA camera on the front of the device. As you'd expect the results with that shooter aren't anything to write home about, but it more than did the trick when using it for video calls (or hair styling).

Regardless of some minor complaints, the camera on the back of the Atrix 4G is more than good enough to replace your basic point and shoot, and we'd have zero reservations about leaving the house with only this phone in our pocket.

Phone / sound quality

We've come to expect a certainly level of audio quality when it comes to Motorola handsets, and the Atrix does not disappoint. Not only is the earpiece on this phone loud and exceptionally clear, but the speaker on the back delivers crisp, full-bodied audio when listening to music or on a speakerphone call. The Atrix 4G offers variable levels of noise reduction on the earpiece, but we didn't seem to have to tweak anything beyond the "normal" setting for great results. Callers we spoke to said we sounded clear, which is always nice to hear while testing a phone.

As far as dropped calls go, we would say that we experienced a handful, though less than what we typically witness on our iPhone 4 on AT&T. The network is far from perfect, but we didn't see an intolerable amount of call issues.

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If you're expecting Gingerbready goodness here, prepare to be disappointed. Also, if you're craving just the stock Android experience, this is not the phone for you. Instead, Motorola is treating customers to its customized Froyo (2.2) build, featuring none other than -- yep -- Motoblur. We thought that Motorola's social-centric skin was going the way of the dinosaur, but it's back in full force with the Atrix 4G.

Now, before you get all let down and mopey, we'd like to say that the software side of the Atrix is actually quite good, and there are lots of little improvements the company has made to bring Android together in a bit more of a cohesive manner. It also helps that Google has begun to independently update its core apps (such as Gmail and Maps) outside of system updates, which means you'll get the same experience in many places that you would on an untainted Nexus S running Gingerbread.

Since this isn't exactly a new version of the software, we're only going to delve into a few points that we think are notable.

For starters, we're a little disappointed by the fact that Motorola and AT&T are loading up the Atrix with a considerable amount of bloatware. Vlingo, a handful of AT&T apps, Blockbuster, and a smattering of other programs all ship on the handset with no option to delete them. Even worse, some of them occasionally throw notifications up bugging the end user to register or use the applications. Adding insult to injury, Motorola (or AT&T, who has a habit of doing this sort of thing) has locked the device down in a way that not only prevents you from flashing the phone with a custom ROM, but also won't even let users install apps via email or SD card. That means that when our developers gave us a new version of the Engadget app to test out, it was a total no-go on this handset. So much for open!

Update: Some of the pre-installed apps can be deleted, but not all.

On the bright side, there are lots of good pieces to find in this OS, like the inclusion of QuickOffice for dealing with documents and PDFs (which it handled speedily), and some of Moto's own embellishments, such as the ability to use the keypad dialer to find specific names or numbers (which greatly sped up call-making), and the company's Mobile Hotspot feature. The latter was easy as pie to set up, though didn't deliver any mind-blowing downloads speeds in use (more on that in the data section).

We're not the biggest fans of Motoblur or its widgets, but luckily the vast majority of stock Android widgets are present here, allowing for customization that gets you close to a pure experience. Of course, the big difference with this phone isn't widgets or bundled apps -- it's the device's ability to function as a full blown computer when used with one of its dock accessories, and that brings us to...
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Motorola Atrix 4G review
By Joshua Topolsky posted Feb 14th 2011 6:00PM
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It's finally here -- our Atrix 4G review! We know you've waited and wondered, and we've finally had enough time with the phone, laptop dock, HD / desktop dock, and all the accessories to give you a proper take on this utterly unique smartphone. Did we say smartphone? Really that's not quite right, because the dual-core-CPU-sporting device actually does quadruple duty as a laptop, set top box, desktop computer, and... well, it works as a smartphone too. The Atrix 4G, which sports a 4-inch, 960 x 540 display, HSPA+ data, and a slew of other juicy specs is absolutely the first of its kind -- a multi-use device intended to replace your netbook (and maybe more) via its Webtop environment. But can a phone be powerful enough to become your laptop or hub of your home theater? Is Motorola's new phone set to be the king of the Android heap, or just another face in the crowd? All these questions (and more) will be answered in our full review... which you can read after the break!
Atrix 4G full hands-on


Hardware

The hardware of the Atrix 4G is notable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is design. The body of the phone is largely plastic, but don't let that bother you too much -- it's put together so solidly that it feels like a much pricier material. The handset measures 2.5 inches wide by 4.63 inches long, and just 0.43 inches thick, which means that the Atrix is nearly as thin as the iPhone 4 -- quite a feat considering how much horsepower is packed inside. The phone probably gains a little of its solidness via its weight, which clocks in at a not-feathery 135 grams (about 4.8 ounces) -- and we like that a lot.

Like most slate phones, the front of the device is nearly all screen, save for the familiar Android buttons along the bottom, and the front-facing camera and earpiece up top. Along the top rear of the phone is a power / sleep button which just happens to be a fingerprint scanner too, and the 3.5mm headphone jack. Along the right side of the phone is the volume rocker (easily accessible with your thumb during calls if you're right handed). On the left side you'll find the Micro USB and HDMI ports. Around back, the stylishly patterned casing is broken by the 5 megapixel camera with LED flash, and a speaker along the bottom of the phone.

As far as truly unique hardware goes, the fingerprint scanner seems fairly novel -- but in practice it's a little frustrating. It does work as advertised, but being told to re-swipe your finger if it doesn't take when you're trying to get into the phone quickly can be a little bothersome. Unless you really need the high security, a standard passcode will suffice for most people.

Fingerprint scanner quibbles aside, the Atrix 4G is one of the better looking Android devices we've had a chance to use. We would have liked to see higher quality materials in play here, but despite the housing, the phone comes off as both sleek and rugged -- a great combo for something that will likely be doing double (if not triple) duty in your connected world. From an industrial design standpoint, this device more than holds its own against the the best of the best on the market right now.

Internals / display / battery life

Of course, the Atrix 4G isn't really about looks -- it's about raw power. You know that Motorola isn't kidding around by packing this handset with a blazing 1GHz dual core CPU, 1GB of DDR2 RAM, 16GB of storage onboard (plus a microSD slot for another 32GB). Along with the massive internal horsepower, the device boasts a 960 x 540 capacitive touchscreen that Motorola is calling its qHD display -- which also happens to be covered with Corning's Gorilla Glass. You'll also find the requisite radios here -- WiFi 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, and of course that HSPA+ GSM number which allows AT&T to (somewhat liberally) call this phone a 4G device (more on that in a moment). The phone also has a light and proximity sensor, as well as a built in accelerometer and compass.

To put it simply, this is one of the fastest (if not the fastest) Android phones we've ever used. Getting around the phone doing even complex tasks was insanely speedy, and we rarely if ever found ourselves waiting for something to load. Scrolling between homescreens or managing apps and widgets was silky smooth, and feels competitive with the likes of the iPhone 4 or EVO 4G. The phone absolutely blazes as a standalone handset, and we were consistently impressed with how deftly it was able to take on whatever we threw at it; even when playing new 3D game titles like Gun Bros, we didn't see a hint of lag.

As far as the display goes, we're extremely excited to see new Android phones taking higher resolution screens. With the added real estate the qHD provides, we were able to get a lot more utility out of Gmail, the browser, and a handful of other content-heavy applications, and text and images looked crystal clear on the display. There were some issues with Android applications that don't properly take advantage of increased resolution, but they were few and far between -- for the vast majority of software we used, the display worked beautifully. Touch response was also excellent, though we can't say if that's due to the screen technology at play here, or that super fast CPU. One item of note -- the display is difficult to see in bright daylight, and the automatic brightness adjustment didn't quite do the trick.

On the battery side, the Atrix 4G packs an impressive 1930mAh battery inside, and even though Android is data intensive, we found ourselves squeezing more than 24 hours out of the device on a single charge with fairly heavy use. You can probably get more time out of the device if you avoid calls when possible and keep your brightness settings in check, but we were pleasantly surprised by the performance we saw.

Cameras

Nothing is dinky about the Atrix 4G, and that extends to the cameras too. The real highlight here is the 5 megapixel shooter on the back of the device, which cranks out impressive shots in both high- and low- light, and can be customized quickly for various settings. The camera also functions as a 720p video camera, and we had great results capturing HD content on the device. Even in low light, the results looked sharp.
Atrix 4G camera shots

On the still shot front, we were impressed by the macro capabilities of the camera, but found that some of the images had a purpleish hue that was slightly worrisome. It's not a dealbreaker, but we didn't think that the color quality or saturation was exactly what it could be. As far as video goes, we were impressed with the lack of shake even when walking briskly, though we're disappointed that the device goes into a fixed-focus mode when capturing video (see in action below), which makes it difficult to shoot a variety of subjects at once.


There's also a VGA camera on the front of the device. As you'd expect the results with that shooter aren't anything to write home about, but it more than did the trick when using it for video calls (or hair styling).

Regardless of some minor complaints, the camera on the back of the Atrix 4G is more than good enough to replace your basic point and shoot, and we'd have zero reservations about leaving the house with only this phone in our pocket.

Phone / sound quality

We've come to expect a certainly level of audio quality when it comes to Motorola handsets, and the Atrix does not disappoint. Not only is the earpiece on this phone loud and exceptionally clear, but the speaker on the back delivers crisp, full-bodied audio when listening to music or on a speakerphone call. The Atrix 4G offers variable levels of noise reduction on the earpiece, but we didn't seem to have to tweak anything beyond the "normal" setting for great results. Callers we spoke to said we sounded clear, which is always nice to hear while testing a phone.

As far as dropped calls go, we would say that we experienced a handful, though less than what we typically witness on our iPhone 4 on AT&T. The network is far from perfect, but we didn't see an intolerable amount of call issues.

Software

If you're expecting Gingerbready goodness here, prepare to be disappointed. Also, if you're craving just the stock Android experience, this is not the phone for you. Instead, Motorola is treating customers to its customized Froyo (2.2) build, featuring none other than -- yep -- Motoblur. We thought that Motorola's social-centric skin was going the way of the dinosaur, but it's back in full force with the Atrix 4G.

Now, before you get all let down and mopey, we'd like to say that the software side of the Atrix is actually quite good, and there are lots of little improvements the company has made to bring Android together in a bit more of a cohesive manner. It also helps that Google has begun to independently update its core apps (such as Gmail and Maps) outside of system updates, which means you'll get the same experience in many places that you would on an untainted Nexus S running Gingerbread.

Since this isn't exactly a new version of the software, we're only going to delve into a few points that we think are notable.

For starters, we're a little disappointed by the fact that Motorola and AT&T are loading up the Atrix with a considerable amount of bloatware. Vlingo, a handful of AT&T apps, Blockbuster, and a smattering of other programs all ship on the handset with no option to delete them. Even worse, some of them occasionally throw notifications up bugging the end user to register or use the applications. Adding insult to injury, Motorola (or AT&T, who has a habit of doing this sort of thing) has locked the device down in a way that not only prevents you from flashing the phone with a custom ROM, but also won't even let users install apps via email or SD card. That means that when our developers gave us a new version of the Engadget app to test out, it was a total no-go on this handset. So much for open!

Update: Some of the pre-installed apps can be deleted, but not all.

On the bright side, there are lots of good pieces to find in this OS, like the inclusion of QuickOffice for dealing with documents and PDFs (which it handled speedily), and some of Moto's own embellishments, such as the ability to use the keypad dialer to find specific names or numbers (which greatly sped up call-making), and the company's Mobile Hotspot feature. The latter was easy as pie to set up, though didn't deliver any mind-blowing downloads speeds in use (more on that in the data section).

We're not the biggest fans of Motoblur or its widgets, but luckily the vast majority of stock Android widgets are present here, allowing for customization that gets you close to a pure experience. Of course, the big difference with this phone isn't widgets or bundled apps -- it's the device's ability to function as a full blown computer when used with one of its dock accessories, and that brings us to...

Accessories / Webtop

It should come as no surprise that much of the hubbub over the Atrix 4G is really hubbub over the fact the phone turns itself into a (nearly) complete PC with the addition of one of the docks which Motorola offers. Utilizing a piece of software the company calls Webtop (really an instant-on custom Linux build), you can toss the Atrix into a laptop or desktop dock and fire up a bizarre environment where you're presented a window representative of your phone (it is, in fact, your phone in a window) alongside the Webtop software, which is mostly just an instance of Firefox along with some settings and further integration with phone functionality. We find the use of Firefox somewhat perplexing -- Chrome is Google's browser product, and besides aligning with Android, it's typically a faster browser for even lower-powered system, begging the question of why Motorola opted for the older, slower Firefox. Additionally, Chrome has just begun to offer proper web apps, something that seems perfectly suited to system like the Atrix 4G. Call us crazy, but why not just boot into the Chrome OS environment?

At any rate, while in the environment Motorola does provide, you can make and receive calls and use all of your phone's software while running the browser or standalone web apps in separate windows. If you open an app on the phone, it creates a tab in the phone window. It's hard to fully describe how it works, but it's an unusual combo. Separate phone apps can't be run in their own windows, and while they can be scaled to fit a larger window (or the whole screen), they're simply zoomed in (not reformatted). The Webtop environment provides Growl-like notifications for things like new emails, and also offers a representation of phone notifications along the status bar which can quickly jump you to your notification window on the phone. If you're interested to know what's happening on the Firefox side, you'll be disappointed to discover that the browser is sluggish by most standards, not even coming close to the performance seen on most modern netbooks or cheaper laptops. In place of actual applications, you can create web app shortcuts, but in our experience running even just a couple of separate browser instances can bog down the system to a point of frustration. You can run Flash content in the browser, though performance was choppy at best -- providing a barely watchable experience for something like Hulu at its lowest bitrate setting. If you're hoping to use this for video or audio streaming (even over WiFi), you may find yourself disappointed.

In all, the software story in the Webtop environment is not all that pleasant. It's a sluggish, somewhat sloppy experience that's difficult to enjoy, even though the basic premise driving this technology is really exciting. We love the idea... but the execution leaves much to be desired. The software experience is further hampered by some missteps on the hardware front, starting with...

Laptop dock

At a glance, Motorola's laptop dock looks like something out of a gadget nerd's fever-dream. A super thin vessel for the Atrix 4G's brain, with styling and build quality that matches the best from Apple and Dell (think MacBook Air and Adamo). The sleek dock is built out of brushed, black metal and soft-touch plastic, is smaller and thinner than almost every netbook or laptop on the market, and weighs just about 2.4 pounds. That metal housing also means that the device is a magnet for fingerprints, so if you get one of these puppies, expect to keep some cleaning supplies handy (or hey, maybe you don't care about that sort of thing). Around back there's a solidly built flip out dock which the phone settles into. When you pop open the laptop, you'll find a healthy 11.5-inch display with a resolution of 1366 x 768, a full width chiclet keyboard which is small though by no means unusable, and a spacious trackpad with two buttons. Around back there are two USB ports and the power jack, and on the front of the laptop there is a small battery display readout which is activated by a small button (similar to a MacBook Pro).
Atrix 4G laptop dock hands-on

The laptop does nothing without a phone plugged in, but once you seat the Atrix 4G, it almost immediately fires up the Webtop OS, which will look pretty familiar if you've ever used Ubuntu. Since the dock is mostly just battery, it does double duty as laptop and charger -- even when not plugged in somewhere, it will recharge your phone's battery while it's being used. Motorola says you can expect about eight to ten hours of battery life from the dock, and those numbers seemed pretty accurate during our testing. It was quite impressive.

While the laptop dock is handsomely designed and solidly built, in use it was quite frustrating. Putting aside our complaints about the Webtop environment, the laptop dock creates some pretty major issues of its own. First and foremost is the fact that the trackpad, while spacious, is single touch only, meaning no two finger scrolling (or even single finger scrolling like many PC trackpads). That means that navigation of webpages is a huge hassle as you're forced to manually grab the scroll bar to move through pages. For an environment built around the "web as app" concept, this struck us as incredibly shortsighted. Furthermore, the trackpad buttons are stiff enough that we found ourselves missing presses on a fairly regular basis. Weirdly it's as if Motorola built this dock for use with a mouse -- and in fact, company reps were demoing the setup with a mouse when we picked up our review unit.

We wanted to love this dock, but at the price Motorola is asking and for the small amount of utility it actually provides, it seems clear to us that your money would be better spent on a tablet or decent netbook.

HD / desktop dock

Besides the laptop dock, Motorola is also providing options for desktop and home entertainment setups via its HD dock -- a small slab of black plastic which comes equipped with three USB ports and an HDMI jack around the back. Just like the laptop dock, when the phone is seated in the device it switches modes, and you're able to jump into one of two environments: Webtop or Entertainment Center.

As you might guess, the desktop / HD dock doesn't fare much better when it comes to standing in for a computer, though thanks to the pricing here, it's a little more viable of a choice, since you're unlikely to purchase a decent desktop for $129. Then again -- do you need a desktop computer? Because if you do, you'll probably want something a bit more powerful than what the Webtop offers.

As a set top box, we have slightly better news to report. Motorola has come up with a really sleek and clean interface through which you can access your video, music, and photos, but the remote which is included to navigate your content seems to be hit or miss. When we had our dock about 5 feet away from where we were seated, the remote was sometimes non-functional when scrolling through menus and making selections, causing us to double and sometimes triple tap to get it to register. Motorola provides an interface on the phone in the dock to control what's happening on screen, but that only makes sense if you have your dock next to where you're sitting, which is likely on the other side of your room (at the very least, you're sitting opposite the TV, which is where you're going to have this plugged in).

As far as the software is concerned, we like the sleek, clean interface that Motorola has come up with for getting at your videos, pics, and music, but there were some issues with playback. Notably, we could get some .M4V files to play, while others would not, and the only error we received was vague at best. Most files worked without a hitch, however. In particular, 720p content we'd shot on the phone looked really quite nice on a big screen, and the playback didn't so much as stutter.

We're not sure we really see a huge market for this dock, unfortunately. There are much better ways to get your content onto a television screen, and in fact you can simply plug an HDMI cable into the phone and use the same features that the dock provides (sans remote... though using the phone to control the app is actually preferable as far as we're concerned).

Mouse / keyboard

Motorola isn't really known for producing great peripherals, but we're quite impressed with the keyboard and mouse the company has cranked out here.

Both products work wirelessly via Bluetooth, and we had no trouble pairing them with our setup. In particular, we like the mouse because it closely matches the Logitech M555b (a favorite) in size and functionality. The keyboard, meanwhile, is styled somewhere between an Apple wireless keyboard and BlackBerrys of years past -- as in, we're not crazy about the font choice. Still, it's a solid, chiclet style keyboard that conserves desk space and has a handful of custom Android keys, which make jumping into specific apps like Gmail or the browser really speedy. We're not sure if you need to shell out the extra cash on these, but they make fine partners to the rest of Moto's offerings.

Data

AT&T and Motorola are billing the Atrix as a 4G device. Hell, it's got the term in its name! We wish that we could report back that we saw 4G-like speeds on the phone, but it's actually quite the contrary.

In comparison to other handsets we've tested on the network in the same spots, the Atrix 4G actually got lower speed rankings on both downstream and upstream tests. In general, we saw an average download speed of around 1.5 Mbps, while uploads were even worse at just about 0.15 Mbps. We did see download speeds spike occasionally into 2.2 Mbps territory, but that wasn't the norm. During the testing, the phone had four or five bars, and was clearly displaying the HSPA+ icon.

The odd thing is that if you compare the device against the iPhone 4 on AT&T's network -- tested in exactly the same locations -- you see much different results. On the iPhone, data speeds were consistently in the 2 or 3 Mbps range for downloads, and hovering around 1 Mbps for uploads.

We're not sure what the issue is with data, but we're not seeing anything resembling 4G on these tests. If AT&T was hoping to impress with its speeds on the HSPA+ network, it still has a lot of work to do.

Pricing

This is where the rubber really hits the road on these devices. The Atrix 4G by itself will run you $199.99 with a 2 year contract. The laptop dock by itself is a whopping $499.99 (less a $100 mail-in rebate and $100 instant rebate, bringing it down to $299.99). You can get the HD / desktop dock by itself for $129.99, or the bundle (with keyboard and mouse) for $189.99.

Simply put, to leave an AT&T store (or its website) with just the phone and the laptop dock, you're dropping $653 and then waiting for that $100 back in the mail. Now that's a lot of cash for a phone and what amounts to half of a laptop -- even if you can impress friends with it. And don't forget, AT&T insists that you have a tethering data plan, which will run you $45 a month -- and that's a tethering plan you could be using with your phone's hotspot feature and any other device you want... like a netbook.

In all, it's not a great value if you're springing for the laptop dock, the desktop dock, and some accessories -- in fact, it's not any kind of value at all.

Wrap-up

The Atrix 4G might be our favorite Android device that we've tested. It's got specs that run laps around most other devices, which should make most potential purchasers feel a little safer about laying out cash for a smartphone right now. We're not saying the phone doesn't have its issues -- and we're really not big fans of Motorola's skinning -- but this is a powerhouse of a device in a sleek package, and Android's openness to customizing means you'll be able to turn it into a phone that feels like your own. So yes, yes to the Atrix 4G, because it is an awesome phone.

The bigger question you have to ask yourself is whether or not you should spring for the accessories, and our answer to that is closer to something like "probably not." We want to love the HD dock and the laptop dock (the laptop dock especially!), but it's hard to warm up to these devices when they don't really deliver on the experience you're paying for. Our advice? Skip the laptop dock and get a good netbook (there are tons of options) and spring for the tethering plan so you can use the "4G" you're paying for (check your area for coverage, of course). If you absolutely need your phone to pull double duty as an entertainment dock, just get a long HDMI cable -- you, and your wallet, will thank us later.

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Flash Player Not Optimized for Tegra 2, Leaked APK Surfaces

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Today a Motorola XOOM ad indicated Flash Player 10.1 wouldn’t be available on the XOOM at launch. Turns out it isn’t really available for any device running NVIDIA’s Tegra 2 chip. After the ad surfaced, Adobe updated the Android Market description for Flash Player to include:

It SHOULD NOT be installed on devices/tablets with the NVIDIA Tegra 2 super chip including the LG Optimus 2X Dell Streak 7 and Motorola ATRIX. The pre-installed version of Flash Player is optimized for Tegra 2. Future updates will include these optimizations. If you are unsure as to whether your device includes the NVIDIA Tegra 2, please consult your device owner’s manual.

So it looks like we will have to wait for Tegra 2 optimization before getting the benefit of Flash content on more powerful dual-core devices. That might not be too far off, either, based on a leaked APK file uncovered earlier today. It is available for installation over at DroidLife, if you want to take the risk on your brand new XOOM come Thursday.

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Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 8:36 am

Posted by AngryOaf over at Engadget

Right... Joe consumer doesn't know and/or care what 2.1 is vs. 2.2... or that éclair is something more than a tasty snack they have with their morning coffee at dunkin donuts, or which button shows up where on some other phone they will never own. At the end of the day, "Android” is not a “mobile phone operating system”. It is simply an underlying technology for devices with a touch interface whose range of integrated features makes it an incredible viable platform for mobile phone development. This is a concept that many people seem to have a very hard time wrapping their heads around.

Many people mistake the relationship between iOS and Android for the same type of relationship between Mac OSX and Windows but if that's the comparison you're making then you're definitely missing the point.

The idea behind Android makes it more of a competitor to Windows CE than iOS. Sure there are instances of (very close to) the vanilla platform being used on devices but windows CE was (or is) the base underlying technology for untold thousands of devices. Most of which are happily used by people who have no clue what version of windows CE is powering the device or the fact that Windows CE is powering the device at all.

Even Windows Phone 7 is powered (in part) by Windows CE.

What Android does is: provides an advanced platform (or foundation) for iterative development of their own products. Think of devices with TouchWiz, Sense for Android, Tmobile Mocha or Moto Shadow Blur Ninja Pirate (or whatever Motorola is calling it) as completely separate products all together that simply use the same underlying technology platform as their base.

This is Google's vision with Android and I'm sure that they've communicated this vision to device manufacturers and phone carriers but they've either been terrible at communicating that vision to consumers or people simply refuse to listen. Carriers and device manufacturers continue to get a bum rap from overzealous gadget nerds and people like myself *cough* for following suite with the vision of the Android platform. This vision is THE reason for the existence "Droid" and "MyTouch" brands, the "Galaxy S" line of phones from Samsung, and the “rumored” PSP/Playstation Phone or the “Zeus-Z1” as it’s known at the moment. This differentiation is not "fragmentation", or an unfortunate side effect there-of. It is actually the whole point of the Android platform! It is actually the whole point of the Android platform! It is actually the whole point of the Android platform!

Once again: these are completely separate products and product lines using the same underlying technology. Not fragmented iterations of said technology.

Though Android 2.2 wasn't specifically developed with Tablet PCs in mind, the fact that Samsung used Android technology as a basis for what many consider a solid contender in that space is very much in keeping with the vision behind Android.

The real battle here isn’t between the iPhone’s sleek and sexy OS and Android. That “battle” is basically incidental because Android is thought to be purely a mobile phone OS. The truth is: Android is a serious competitor to one of Microsoft’s most (quietly) successful products ever, Windows CE. The “war” between the two companies is much more than a browser war or a battle for cloud productivity suite supremacy. This is why Andy Rubin (VP of Engineering at Google) in his interview with PC Mag said that Microsoft could have built Windows Phone 7 on the Android. He is quoted as saying: “I think the only reason you create another platform is for political reasons. Why doesn't the whole world run with [Android]? They don't like the people who developed, or "not invented here," but [Android] is a successful, complete, vertically integrated free platform.” From my point of view, this is another attempt at driving the point home… but once again, it was completely ignored.

Everyone should keep complaining about Android fragmentation though. Especially the fine people at Engadget who are the source of gadget news for thousands of people but continue to somehow miss the point and potential of one of the biggest & most disruptive developments in the space they profess to be experts in.

After all, it does make for mighty fine bingo and if Nelay or Josh stopped complaining about Android fragmentation they might find themselves out of a job... or at the very least end up with way too much time on their hands and be forced to cover something important, like how much money Apple is paying them and how I can get in on that sweet sweet deal! :p

Chris seems to be the only one that sort of gets it. :'(
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Postby tr1ad » March 1st, 2011, 9:02 am

i eh read all dat... how much for dat atrix... it looking decent

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Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 9:11 am

tr1ad wrote:i eh read all dat... how much for dat atrix... it looking decent


Hoss, 800 USD, are u sure u like that MotoBlur???

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Postby tr1ad » March 1st, 2011, 10:02 am

eh??

nah not again

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Postby tiger balm » March 1st, 2011, 11:18 am

achillies wrote:
tr1ad wrote:i eh read all dat... how much for dat atrix... it looking decent


Hoss, 800 USD, are u sure u like that MotoBlur???
tr1ad wrote:eh??

nah not again


:lol: That's how I feel about most of these android phones. I want them but boy are they expensive. Hopefully their prices will start decreasing in the near future.

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Postby jhonnieblue » March 1st, 2011, 12:34 pm

ok guys, my iphone now died on me, time to hunt for a new cell
looking at an android phone
wats a good one to get?

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Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 2:21 pm

Sony Tells us That a “Smarter Walkman Phone is Coming”
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Some of our readers may recall hearing last June that Sony was prepping a "Yendo" Walkman, which looked to blend the iconic media player with Android. At the time, specs were rather average at Android 1.6, a 5-megapixel camera, and a 2.6-inch display. Nearly eight months later, we don't have a Walkman device to speak of. Sony looks to be getting the ball rolling again as word of a new ad has landed online. A teaser ad, of sorts, the company promising that a "smarter Walkman Phone is coming".

...Go on, we're listening.

If Sony puts the same effort into a Walkman phone that they have used for their 2011 devices, we'll be very happy. We don't have a name yet, nor do we have specs, launch, or additional details. Essentially, we know it's coming and that's it. Given the recent rumors surrounding their tablets and digital convergence plans, we would not be surprised to see a device that meshes Bravia technology with Qriocity content and more, all while operating under the Walkman umbrella.

Are we the first to suggest Xperia Walk?

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 5:46 pm

NVIDIA Announces Tegra Zone App for Android Devices

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NVIDIA announced earlier today that they have released an Android app designed for smart phones and tablets using their Tegra platform. Called Tegra Zone, the free app is essentially a filtered market tool that showcases and highlights apps written to take advantage of NVIDIA's chipset. Users will find reviews, screenshots, videos, and more to help make buying decisions and choose their next awesome game.

Once one decides to purchase an app, Tegra Zone hands the transaction off to the Android Market. As many of you know, the Tegra platform is the first mobile dual-core chipset and makes for an excellent gaming experience. Many of today's top devices, including the Motorola XOOM feature this procesor, largely due to the way it handles hardware acceleration, enriched graphics, and better multi-tasking.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 5:49 pm

Dual Core? No, We’re Not Ready.

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The big hype is all about dual-core processors for your Android device. Yup, folks, Android is the only system running on dual-core devices. I mean, iOS running on a dual-core? Nope, not yet, but it's possible the iPad 2 or iPhone 5 will sport a dual-core processor. Windows Phone 7? Still no. Google has taken the front seat on the innovation car, leaving its competitors behind. But why is a dual-core processor such a big deal? Simply put--if the possibilities it offers are fully optimized, it outmatches single-core processors in many ways.

Here's what it all comes down to. The picture above shows the theoretical power (and battery-life savings) of a dual-core processor, but the OS has to support it. iOS doesn't (yet), and neither does Windows Phone 7. Even Android doesn't fully support it across all version of the platform. Sure, Android will run on a Tegra2 processor, but it won't unlock its full power.

It's like putting an average granny in a Ferrari. The Ferrari (multi-core processor) has an huge potential, but the granny (Android) doesn't know how to handle it. She will be able to drive a little faster (improved benchmarks), but driving a Ferrari is an art, not a trick. I think that the benchmarks of the HTC Flyer won't be outmatched by the dual-core processors too easily. Honeycomb does make use of dual-core power, but we'll have to see if it makes optimal use of it. And then there's the apps. There aren't any apps that are optimized for a multi-core processor yet, because Android, as a whole, doesn't support it. And what the system can't do, neither can the apps.

Does that mean it doesn't bring any advantages at all? No, of course not. It stimulates your battery life, as shown in the picture above again. But again, the OS has to really be built in a certain way to take full advantage of this feature.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of having a multi-core processor in my device, but I won't really love it until Android optimizes the possibilities it has to offer. Besides, single-core processors still provide ample power for today's devices.

Its all about Optimization

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 5:52 pm

Facebook acquires Beluga messaging app
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In an odd turn, Facebook has acquired the popular messaging app Beluga. As we’ve seen, Beluga is another app in the line of “BBM for non-Blackberry device” apps that has been swirling starting with Kik. Beluga offers group messaging, sharing photos and location information, all of which are things Facebook quite enjoys.

The strange thing about the acquisition is that Facebook already has group messaging built into their mobile apps, so buying Beluga seems basically like nothing more than a quick way to add photo and location sharing to that service without the development costs.

As of right now, Beluga service will not be changing, but in the next few weeks there will be announcements on the future of the app and its integration into Facebook.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 5:58 pm

Saab Goes Android for their IQon In-Car Infotainment System
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Time and time again we have seen car audio manufacturers attempt to shoehorn Android onto in-dash entertainment consoles with typically bland results. It is a concept we have praised and see as having high potential for Android in the future, but no one has quite got it right just yet. Enter Saab and their newly introduced IQon in-car Infotainment system using Android. Via an 8-inch touchscreen, a driver or passenger can browse media and music stored on the device or streaming from the web, but open APIs allow developers to create apps that do even more.
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With those APIs, the system can access the cars array of sensors transmitting over 500 different signals relating to the car. These include current speed, location, direction of travel, torque, inside and outside temperature, and more. The platform even allows for direct communication with your Saab dealership for off-site vehicle diagnostics, scheduling maintenance, and performing the installation of software-based car upgrades.

The IQon system won’t be available on the street immediately. It is currently being tested in Saab’s fleet of company cars. Consumers can get a first hand look at the IQon in the new Saab PhoeniX concept being shown off at the 2011 Geneva Motor Show.

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Re: The *Official* GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

Postby achillies » March 1st, 2011, 6:02 pm

That Saab Interface is WICKED SWEET!!!

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