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Re: st. clair crash

Postby christopherwilliams2 » February 12th, 2011, 7:43 pm

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christopherwilliams2 wrote:So jes now....this was not on a highway...I really thinking.....how fast could the wagon have been going to do this kind of damage??
seriously....a BMW....money...safety??? hello? some ol' ad wagon?? and the ad wagon driver come out alive to run away from the scene??
Side impact protection? hello? so first their dealership security failed and make the woman get killed...their management failed and had it transferred to some other firm and now the car's side impact protection had an epic fail on this Sabga guy??
I really trying to figure out how fast this ad wagon was going....100km? 120? 140?...a bmw side impact shouldah handle dat man...
at least enough to keep the driver alive?


yeah continue being one of those dumbasses having blind faith in a piece ah metal nah :roll: :roll:

rip guy


yeah man bless

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Team Loco » February 12th, 2011, 9:43 pm

christopherwilliams2 wrote:So jes now....this was not on a highway...I really thinking.....how fast could the wagon have been going to do this kind of damage??
seriously....a BMW....money...safety??? hello? some ol' ad wagon?? and the ad wagon driver come out alive to run away from the scene??
Side impact protection? hello? so first their dealership security failed and make the woman get killed...their management failed and had it transferred to some other firm and now the car's side impact protection had an epic fail on this Sabga guy??
I really trying to figure out how fast this ad wagon was going....100km? 120? 140?...a bmw side impact shouldah handle dat man...
at least enough to keep the driver alive?


geeze...........talk about false logic.

the BMW was the car receiving the impact. the lancer was the one moving with all the speed. the BMW was hit plum shot on the driver's door. the impact caused the bmw to smash right sideways into a corner wall. the hood was cut off to remove the injured. all side impact safety airbags were deployed in the accident. look at the age of the guy. he was 70. he was lucky to still be alive a bit after the accident.

dont be quick to pre-judge a manufacturer's safety standard. basic physics and common sense always have the final say.

you seem to be lacking the latter.

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby pugboy » February 12th, 2011, 9:50 pm

there is no need to engage in these kinds of flame posts

you fellas must resist the urge to respond to these idiot posts hook line and sinker

from the post the chap obviously have an issue with people who have money

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Postby Team Loco » February 12th, 2011, 10:28 pm

true dat.....

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Postby dsaint » February 12th, 2011, 10:54 pm

THis is truly tragic ... I hope justice is served ..

RIP

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Postby Team Loco » February 12th, 2011, 11:18 pm

i must say, the lancer took the impact pretty well. the driver must have been wearing his seatbelt

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Red Dawg » February 13th, 2011, 12:16 am

christopherwilliams2 wrote:So jes now....this was not on a highway...I really thinking.....how fast could the wagon have been going to do this kind of damage??
seriously....a BMW....money...safety??? hello? some ol' ad wagon?? and the ad wagon driver come out alive to run away from the scene??
Side impact protection? hello? so first their dealership security failed and make the woman get killed...their management failed and had it transferred to some other firm and now the car's side impact protection had an epic fail on this Sabga guy??
I really trying to figure out how fast this ad wagon was going....100km? 120? 140?...a bmw side impact shouldah handle dat man...
at least enough to keep the driver alive?



You had to be an ass half
It would take two of you to make an ass whole

What freaking car could handle a side impact at 100km

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby shogun » February 13th, 2011, 12:27 am

Fellas think higher end, means indestructible oui!

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby K74T » February 13th, 2011, 12:33 am

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » February 13th, 2011, 1:53 am

Team Loco wrote:i must say, the lancer took the impact pretty well.


thought so too......

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby lostallos101 » February 13th, 2011, 3:08 am

may he RIP....wow that car get....nothing could have saved him...side impacts not made to handle the kind of speed that D.A. hit the car with...smh

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Shango_13 » February 13th, 2011, 3:40 am

POPULAR BUSINESSMAN DIES IN CRASH

By Anna-Lisa Paul Sunday, February 13 2011
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A grieving family yesterday appealed to young drivers to be more responsible when behind the steering wheel and for parents to take a greater role in educating their children on the dangers of drinking and driving.

The heart-wrenching plea came from close relatives of popular businessman Ramon Naim Sabga who died in the wee hours of yesterday morning, after he was involved in a car accident in St Clair.

The 70-year-old patriarch and Managing Director of Naim Sabga Limited, Queen Street, Port-of-Spain was said to be returning to his home at Prada Street, St Clair at about 11.40 pm on Friday when the tragedy occurred, less than one block from the St Clair Medical Hospital.

Reports indicate that Sabga’s blue BMW had been proceeding east along St Clair Avenue in the vicinity of the Ministry of Education, when he was broadsided by a white Lancer wagon driven by a 20-year-old St Ann’s man, which had been heading north along Alexandra Street.

Witnesses said the impact of the collision caused Sabga’s vehicle to slam into a nearby wall, pinning him behind the steering wheel.

Fire officials responding to the call were forced to use the “jaws of life” to extract the grandfather of 12, following which he was rushed to the Port-of-Spain General Hospital where he passed away at about 1.10 am.

Post-mortem results yesterday indicated that the cause of death was due to massive trauma associated with the accident which included a crushed chest cavity and a severed spinal column.

Investigations are continuing into reports that the driver of the wagon had not been given permission to use the vehicle, did not possess a driver’s permit and had been drinking a popular rum and energy drink at the time.

Witnesses said the driver fled the scene following the accident and had been found in St Clair by a party of officers led by Cpl Toolaram of the St Clair Police Station and included Fire Service personnel.

The driver and his friend sustained minor injuries in the collision, the driver is also alleged to have failed the breathalyser test.

When Sunday Newsday visited Sabga’s home at Prada Street yesterday, his relatives appeared shocked and declined to speak to the media.

However, a small group later described him as “well loved by a whole lot of people.”

With tears in their eyes, some of those gathered to pay their respects commended the officers at the St Clair Police Station for their efficiency and support, as they urged “drunk drivers and young people to be more responsible on the roads.”

At the site of the crash at the corner of St Clair Avenue and Alexandra Street yesterday, a bouquet of flowers had been taped to the wall, along with a lighted candle and a sign that read, “Uncle Ramon, we love you and your light will shine forever in our hearts. May you rest in peace. Amen.”

Drawing the eyes of many as they traversed the area, the debris left over from the collision and broken glass that littered the spot also had many drivers slowing to read the sign.

Meanwhile, the doors at the Naim Sabga fabric store located on Queen Street, Port-of-Spain remained closed yesterday, along with a sign informing the public of his untimely demise.

Relatives said the store will remain closed “until further notice” and that funeral arrangements are yet to be finalised as they await the arrival of loved ones from abroad.

Responding to the report — ACP Mobile, Wayne Richards admonished drivers as he reminded them they “do not need to drink and drive.”

Claiming that persons “have a tendency to overdo at this time,” Richards urged, “If you intend to drink, get a designated driver.”

Richards warned that the authorities “will continue to patrol the highways and carry out operations seeking out people drinking and driving who will feel the full extent of the law exacted upon them.”

Expressing his condolences to the Sabga family, the ACP said, “When accidents like these occur, it is a straight case of carelessness, reckless attitude and no respect for life including their own.”

Reminding partygoers that “attending a carnival fete should not end in the loss of life,” Richards also had a message for friends who accompany persons drinking and driving as he said they, too, “should feel a sense of guilt when innocent lives are lost when they sit in a vehicle and allow the driver to get behind the wheel and drive at excessive speeds.”

President of the Downtown Owners and Merchants’ Association Gregory Aboud who was at the scene of the accident on Friday described his first cousin’s passing as “a particularly painful moment for family and friends because his death must be added to the many other needless deaths that are occurring all over Trinidad and Tobago.”

Assuring “that everything that could have been done to save his life was done,” Aboud said the family is “very much concerned that no one else must feel this pain and that other families must be protected from the grief and anguish of this loss.”

Declaring that Sabga’s death had brought to end, an era of “notable dry goods merchants” which had began doing business before World War II, a sombre Aboud echoed earlier comments as he said, “Persons who drink and drive must know that they are putting innocent lives at risk.

“They are depriving families of their fathers and grandfathers, and of their sons and daughters and every measure must be taken to ensure that a caring society protects innocent people from this type of carnage and tragic loss.”

Commending the protective services for their assistance and support, Aboud said, “I certainly feel very privileged to know that members of the Fire Service worked so hard to try and save Mr Sabga from the car and that the police responded in a professional manner and gave assurances to the family.”

Aboud said Sabga was accustomed to giving charity every Saturday and that persons at the store yesterday were shocked and upset by the news of his death. The road fatality figure has now risen to 15 for the year.

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby A172 » February 13th, 2011, 8:03 am

shogun wrote:Fellas think higher end, means indestructible oui!


doh forget de TS drivers who feel dey car "superior" to almeerah and civic when it comes to crashes :roll:

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby saltydog » February 13th, 2011, 12:20 pm

i hope the driver gets a suitable jail sentance for vehicular manslaughter after all if the weapon is a car or a gun it is the same manslaughter. To make matters worse he was drunk, i hope they bury his ass in jail

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Chimera » February 13th, 2011, 12:21 pm

is a sabga he kill..he better off if he kill himself

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby rollingstock » February 13th, 2011, 12:26 pm

De man run away from teh accident but gave himself up to the police after because of guilt, should ah buy a one way ticket to anywhere one time.

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Pablo660 » February 13th, 2011, 12:51 pm

Wheeey that right outside office
That street, Haynes, has speed bumps while alexandra street has stop to give way at there intersection
People break both and end up with lots of problems
Sorry to see such tragedy,
I guess i will see tomm what it looks like out side our gate

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby turbohead » February 13th, 2011, 2:03 pm

rmlmv wrote:Surprised the thread wasn't updated yet...

The guy in the BMW died. The one in the libero is a dead man walking. Not because he have no liscence, no permission to use car, was drunk, and was (reportedly) breaking a majour road at high speed... but because the dead guy was a Sabga.



de man come out ah d minour road an hit he boi. nah man boi and he eh ha no license and and all

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Postby S_2NR » February 13th, 2011, 2:12 pm

ABA Trading LTD wrote:is a sabga he kill..he better off if he kill himself


x2...or shudda migrate one time.

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » February 13th, 2011, 2:15 pm

redman10 wrote:
ABA Trading LTD wrote:is a sabga he kill..he better off if he kill himself


x2...or shudda migrate one time.


to where grenada??? :lol: :lol: , I would rather see the Sabbies get to handle this for themselves though :|

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby t&t162 » February 13th, 2011, 2:22 pm

ABA Trading LTD wrote:is a sabga he kill..he better off if he kill himself


rmlmv wrote:Surprised the thread wasn't updated yet...

The guy in the BMW died. The one in the libero is a dead man walking. Not because he have no liscence, no permission to use car, was drunk, and was (reportedly) breaking a majour road at high speed... but because the dead guy was a Sabga.


there is no reason for such STUPID slander, justice SHOULD NOT JUST BE SERVED especially because the deceased is a SABGA but should be served because what took place was SICK and could have been EASILY avoided. young people these days don't think and whatever satisfaction that boy thought he would get from drinking and driving, without a license and a stolen car is obviously not equal to the consequences he should and will face because of his STUPID actions. JUSTICE SHOULD BE SERVED BECAUSE THE STUPID ACTIONS OF A MAN WERE FATAL TO AN INNOCENT BUSINESSMAN WHETHER HE WAS A SABGA OR A SMITH. IF THIS WAS YOUR FATHER, HUSBAND, BROTHER, GRANDFATHER, UNCLE OR ANYTHING. WOULDN'T YOU WANT JUSTICE TO BE SERVED AND THE MAN WHO MURDERED YOUR RELATIVE TO BE PUNISHED...OR I GUESS NOT CAUSE WE ALL AREN'T SABGA'S NAH

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Chimera » February 13th, 2011, 2:58 pm

slander? where?

and yes we would all want justice to be served, but we can't afford justice.

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby t&t162 » February 13th, 2011, 3:09 pm

justice is not all about money and unfortunately for us all, we live in a corrupt country. doesnt mean you should condemn those who have money, and also doesnt mean they use it to coerce the law.
clearly you're to small minded to see the bigger picture. im done wasting my time.

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Trini Hookah » February 13th, 2011, 3:23 pm

t&t162 was driving de Libero?

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Team Loco » February 13th, 2011, 3:32 pm

saltydog wrote:i hope the driver gets a suitable jail sentance for vehicular manslaughter after all if the weapon is a car or a gun it is the same manslaughter. To make matters worse he was drunk, i hope they bury his ass in jail


dont think he has a chance of getting away. his suite in jail booked already.

imagine you live 70 yrs of your life on this earth and some drunk arse just snuff you out juss so, because he probably late for a two bit fete or something.....

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby rollingstock » February 13th, 2011, 3:39 pm

vrampersad14 wrote:t&t162 was driving de Libero?


No dan he in a cell in Belmont Police Station, 162 is ah Sa..................



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Re: st. clair crash

Postby Chimera » February 13th, 2011, 3:41 pm

*abatradingltd cannot be reached for comment at this time*

He left a note saying he had to leave on a very urgent vacation and will return sooner or later.

:|

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Re: st. clair crash

Postby rmlmv » February 13th, 2011, 4:07 pm

Oh sheit (at new pics). Euro cars usually stronger, but not in a collision like that. :(

That's why when people have the right of way and they still slowing down, don't blame them... they just want to survive the journey home.


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t&t162 wrote:there is no reason for such STUPID slander, justice SHOULD NOT JUST BE SERVED especially because the deceased is a SABGA but should be served because what took place was SICK and could have been EASILY avoided. young people these days don't think and whatever satisfaction that boy thought he would get from drinking and driving, without a license and a stolen car is obviously not equal to the consequences he should and will face because of his STUPID actions. JUSTICE SHOULD BE SERVED BECAUSE THE STUPID ACTIONS OF A MAN WERE FATAL TO AN INNOCENT BUSINESSMAN WHETHER HE WAS A SABGA OR A SMITH. IF THIS WAS YOUR FATHER, HUSBAND, BROTHER, GRANDFATHER, UNCLE OR ANYTHING. WOULDN'T YOU WANT JUSTICE TO BE SERVED AND THE MAN WHO MURDERED YOUR RELATIVE TO BE PUNISHED...OR I GUESS NOT CAUSE WE ALL AREN'T SABGA'S NAH


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