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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 19th, 2010, 9:15 am

Can you also PM me your number as I live right there in Dinsley in Tacarigua.

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Postby Sanctifier » August 19th, 2010, 9:47 am

rado wrote:At least there is an alternative to guess work with respect to head porting.

What model of flow bench do you have?...and what is the capacity (max. flow rate?) Thanks.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby rado » August 19th, 2010, 10:23 am

TriniGT wrote:Are you saying you all have a flow bench? Also looking for someone that can replace valve guides in an aluminum head and reem them to suit, please don't tell me Baldwins because they afraid to do it, the supposedly biggest machine shop in Trinidad.


Yes, I have a flow bench, as well as the means to measure velocity through the ports. As ,many know, big flow number are useless if you sacrifice velocity, you can end up with a head that actually performs worse than stock!

As far as the other head related work, the tooling is the problem. While the tools are available, they are expensive and most local machine shops just are not willing to invest. I've visited Baldwin's shop, and while it may be the best that we have locally for valve angle jobs (for the time being), his equipment is by no means "State of the art".

I've started off with a narrow focus, in a small way, and I'll expand slowly once I get enough business to buy more tools! I bought my equipment because like you, I was just not satisfied with the level of science and accuracy available locally for porting.

My next foray will be in the area of angled valve seat cutters.

By the way, the correct procedure to remove the guides is to heat the entire head in an oven to about 250 deg, then tap out the guides. The new guides are then pressed in and reamed to size. Run-out tollerances are very very small for performance heads which is probably why our local guys are afraid.

Sorry I don't have better news, but my advice would be to re-evaluate if the guide change is really necessary. Perhaps you could just get custom valves with slightly larger stems, then just ream the present guides, or just use a better head to start from.

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Postby rado » August 19th, 2010, 10:40 am

Sanctifier wrote:
rado wrote:At least there is an alternative to guess work with respect to head porting.

What model of flow bench do you have?...and what is the capacity (max. flow rate?) Thanks.


The limit on my bench is 400 CFM. Please note this is a part time "project" for me, and I'm presently set up to flow heads with cylinder sizes in the 78 to 81mm range.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 19th, 2010, 10:45 am

Understand exactly what you are talking about. Thanks for the insight and would love to swing by and check out the setup. I know if not done already the Admins will be swarming you to get Power Seller Status to advertise your business so please be on the lookout before your posts are deleted.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 19th, 2010, 11:04 am

Hmmm damn, mine are 86mm.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby rado » August 19th, 2010, 4:44 pm

TriniGT wrote:Hmmm damn, mine are 86mm.


Not to worry, it just means getting another cylinder head adaptor. I sent you a PM so give me a call when you can.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby Sanctifier » August 19th, 2010, 6:00 pm

Line Boring Head... Back on topic. Looks like the same old problem of a lack of local machine shop expertise &/or equipment.

So is there any company that can accurately "aline bore & hone" camshaft journals in OHC cylinder heads :?:

Also...can any company accurately "aline bore & hone" crankshaft main journals :?:

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 19th, 2010, 10:08 pm

I still have a neo head that needs line boring. Gonna hang on to it just in case.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby Sanctifier » August 20th, 2010, 6:21 am

Trini which machine shop can line-bore & hone the main bearing journals of cylinder blocks :?:

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 20th, 2010, 7:38 am

I am still to find such a shop. Heard some say D Rampersad but I have never pursued it. Outside of here any run-of-the-mill shop can do it, so sad so sad :(.

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby Sanctifier » August 20th, 2010, 11:29 am

^ ^ ^ I suppose it's hard to buy new equipment when so few of us 2nrs want to pay for quality workmanship.

Still, IMHO if you already offer traditional boring & honing, there is a need for align boring/honing as well.
To reduce capital cost, refurbished equipment is available these days to complete a "full service" machine shop.

Looks like I'll have to buy a foreign, used block...ship to machine shop...machine it abroad...then import the machined item.

My $0.02¢

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Re: Line Boring Head

Postby TriniGT » August 20th, 2010, 12:11 pm

That was my plan I had already purchased an S14 SR20DET engine in the US and had it inspected by Mazworx and was about to have all the work done to get it done and then dumb me got an RB26DETT for the swap that has given me endless headaches. Should have paid for the pocket rocket and had it shipped over.

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