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Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby TrinbagoMan » July 11th, 2010, 6:14 am

Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

By CAROL MATROO Sunday, July 11 2010

Are you the new owner of a roll-on-roll-off vehicle, purchased this year? Did you know that these cars, imported from Singapore or Japan, must be four years or newer before they can be cleared and licensed to legally be on the road?

Used cars imported to this country must not be older than the 2006 year of manufacture. But, according to one car dealer, roll-on-roll-off cars are being illegally imported from Singapore to Trinidad and Tobago with their manufacture dates tampered with to alter their years of usage.

The car dealer, who requested strict anonymity, said due to the internal changes in Singapore’s vehicle industry, it has now become non-profitable for car owners in Singapore to scrap or sell their four-year-old cars for export.

Car dealers are not allowed to import cars that are disassembled, which are cars that are knocked down and reassembled here in TT. The foreign used car industry is regulated by the Trade Ministry which is responsible for granting import licences to car dealerships.

“There are some unscrupulous car dealers who are purchasing older vehicles, some as old as 2003, and passing them off as 2006 models and selling them to unsuspecting customers in TT. They are doctoring the documents in Singapore before the cars are brought in. People don’t really check their chassis numbers because they believe they are getting a bonafide legal vehicle,” said the car dealer.

This, he said, was done by counterfeiting Singapore’s Land Transport Authority’s De-registration Certificate, a document used by this country’s Trade Ministry, Customs and Excise, Licensing Office and local financial institutions to verify the vehicle’s year of manufacture.

“The dealers are bringing older vehicles, that is, vehicles manufactured in 2003, 2004, maybe 2005 and passing them off as made in 2006. Singapore has changed their licensing system so that vehicles that Trinidadian dealers would have been able to purchase before are now over-priced. So, we can’t purchase a four-year-old vehicle in Singapore which is why local dealers are buying older vehicles to import,” the car dealer explained.

He added this also meant that for potential customers in TT, it was not possible to get a used car from Singapore that was genuinely four years or newer unless they were willing to pay a substantial mark up in price, about 40 percent higher.

“This practice has led to hundreds, if not thousands of cars being illegally imported into the country right under the noses of Customs and being licensed to be put out on the nation’s roads.

“This has serious consequences for both the customer and any banks or credit unions that may have financed these vehicles because banks do not finance vehicles that are five years or older,” he said.

The car dealer said the concerns for banks and other financial institutions were that they were financing a 2006 vehicle and at what rate they were financing it.

“They take into consideration that it’s a four-year-old vehicle, so the parts requirement and service requirement should not be extensive so the customer would be able to make their monthly payment and also be able to service their vehicles. If there is extensive need for servicing that is going to affect how the customer would pay them, and that is exactly what would happen if the car is older than the customer thinks,” he said.

However, potential buyers can very easily verify the age of a vehicle through a simple process of calling new car dealerships and providing the chassis number and they would give the year.

The car dealer made several calls in the presence of Sunday Newsday showing how easily it could be done.

Armed with several proforma invoices and de-registration certificates, Sunday Newsday decided to check for itself. After making eight telephone calls and providing the chassis numbers, six of the cars were past four years old, but were stated on the invoices as being manufactured in 2006.

The cars’ chassis numbers are stamped numerically so each year the number increases. For example, a Nissan Sunny with chassis number JN1CFAN16Z0080176 showed manufacture year to be 2006, and another Nissan Sunny with chassis number JN1CFAN16Z0092602 had its manufacture year as 2005.

The manufacture year for the first car proved to be false because when the vehicles are produced, the chassis numbers are stamped numerically so the 2006 vehicle could not have a lower number than the 2005 car.

The car dealer said the matter has been brought to the attention of the Trade Ministry and Customs, but so far nothing has been done.

“We have found that there are about 20 containers with these kinds of vehicles referred to the Customs Preventative Department. They are the ones who are supposed to stop this, but the vehicles are still coming in,” he said.

“The Singapore market is for all intents and purposes closed off because the price of the vehicles is too high. Now with these cars, honest car dealers’ sales are being affected because we are importing actual 2006 vehicles from Japan. All vehicles coming from Singapore should be red-flagged pending scrutiny,” the car dealer said.
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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby ru$$ell » July 11th, 2010, 6:30 am

people shouldnt act surprised,heck,yesterday i saw a red toyota GT Four on PCH plates :|

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Cjruckus » July 11th, 2010, 9:40 am

importing from signapore has always been a waste of time. Oh well half of the kids on this forum drive Singapore knockoff sport cars anyway so it shouldnt really matter anyway.

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby DrunkenMaster16 » July 11th, 2010, 10:33 am

^^ JDM dawg! JDM!

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby eliteauto » July 11th, 2010, 11:38 am

Toyota owners can enter their chassis# here and get their YOM, colour code, trim etc

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q.html

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Damien » July 11th, 2010, 11:39 am

thats just the tip of the iceberg

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Postby - Rovin's car audio - » July 11th, 2010, 11:39 am

from ever since it have corruption not now ....

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby nicholas7129 » July 11th, 2010, 11:49 am

i never trusted dese roro cars for that same reason and the one with rolling back mileage

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby bigchief3679 » July 11th, 2010, 2:21 pm

i am almost certain that the 'anonymous' car dealer hosts a program on a certain local station.
just yesterday i saw a PCF K11 march, the last one was made in 2003, lol. and it was not a returning japanese resident

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Picasso » July 11th, 2010, 2:33 pm

Yall ain't hear nuttin yet. In an investigation not too long ago around Christmas time information was found on a particular large FU car dealer was selling vehicles to customers and making use of their personal information eg address etc they would steal the cars back paint them over and sell it again. This was kept hush hush.. It's over 50,000 cars were said to be stolen within a 6 year period by this dealer and other smaller dealers.

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Postby TeamH2O » July 11th, 2010, 3:55 pm

The reason the certain famous sold cars were stolen endlessly during that period and up til this date, you dont hear about that in high level now.

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Mudboy » July 11th, 2010, 4:48 pm

Who really cares???????????

stupid law anyway....man just looking for marks with the new PM.

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » July 11th, 2010, 5:09 pm

Sour grapes from a man who RORO business failed

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby southside crew » July 11th, 2010, 6:36 pm

you know what amaze me... ppl always saying boy I getting that car for X amount of dollars on X website... and that dealer want to dig out my eye....

You know what it costs.. but yet still you goin to buy a car cheaper and *thinkin* it legal!... you know what goin on but playing all saint!...

It good for allyuh!//

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » July 11th, 2010, 7:04 pm

DrunkenMaster16 wrote:^^ JDM dawg! JDM!


AGREED!!!!!!!!

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby biggreen » July 11th, 2010, 7:38 pm

ru$$ell wrote:people shouldnt act surprised,heck,yesterday i saw a red toyota GT Four on PCH plates :|



saw the same car yesterday, that guy is brave, but the car looks good...

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby zcarz » July 11th, 2010, 7:46 pm

wat about the laurel that have the single P ?

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Racers Inspired » July 11th, 2010, 8:01 pm

what about those s15's on PCM, PCL, PCH plates :lol: :lol: and those R34's :lol: :lol: :fist: :fist: :fist: :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Midnight_Demon » July 11th, 2010, 8:02 pm

ru$$ell wrote:people shouldnt act surprised,heck,yesterday i saw a red toyota GT Four on PCH plates :|



yea but u have to admit .. it was friggin sexy no MC

it looked like a gt four wrc

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Postby ~Vēġó~ » July 11th, 2010, 8:18 pm

zcarz wrote:wat about the laurel that have the single P ?


a black laurel? vehicles like that have been plated way before the ammendment which stopped the transferring of a plate from a defunct vehicle onto a newer one....

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Midnight_Demon » July 11th, 2010, 8:31 pm

~Vēġó~ wrote:
zcarz wrote:wat about the laurel that have the single P ?


a black laurel? vehicles like that have been plated way before the ammendment which stopped the transferring of a plate from a defunct vehicle onto a newer one....

actually i dont think its like that. afaik u can order a "special number" there is a new model suzuki swift with the license plate P 2006

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Cjruckus » July 11th, 2010, 8:53 pm

zcarz wrote:wat about the laurel that have the single P ?


theres a silver one in the west. P67.
Local assembled.

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Trini Hookah » July 11th, 2010, 8:59 pm

so? wam tuh dat, my bee e-levven wit meh ess ar twenny license PCP...come tru na 0X

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby zcarz » July 11th, 2010, 9:04 pm

Midnight_Demon wrote:
~Vēġó~ wrote:
zcarz wrote:wat about the laurel that have the single P ?


a black laurel? vehicles like that have been plated way before the ammendment which stopped the transferring of a plate from a defunct vehicle onto a newer one....

actually i dont think its like that. afaik u can order a "special number" there is a new model suzuki swift with the license plate P 2006

so if i want something like pzz 9999 on a new car i can do that?

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby MG Man » July 11th, 2010, 9:11 pm

local used ftw

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby foss » July 11th, 2010, 9:14 pm

MG Man wrote:local euro used ftw


:drinking:

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby MG Man » July 11th, 2010, 9:34 pm

foss wrote:
MG Man wrote:local euro used ftw


:drinking:



damn right :mrgreen:
lookin for anedda one right now

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby Rooki3 » July 11th, 2010, 9:44 pm

Midnight_Demon wrote:
~Vēġó~ wrote:
zcarz wrote:wat about the laurel that have the single P ?


a black laurel? vehicles like that have been plated way before the ammendment which stopped the transferring of a plate from a defunct vehicle onto a newer one....

actually i dont think its like that. afaik u can order a "special number" there is a new model suzuki swift with the license plate P 2006


red?

thaz keneash thom own, i think you can transfer the number pltae from older cars, but the older car has to be completely destroyed!!!!

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby DevilZ » July 11th, 2010, 9:48 pm

allyuh buyin/selling rights orr?

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Re: Corruption cited in foreign used car industry

Postby TriniGT » July 11th, 2010, 11:12 pm

P66 and 67 were Carpet Capitals laurels from long ago. Ordered for them way back when.

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