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SR20ve vs K20a...

Postby Monk BANzai » May 6th, 2007, 2:40 am

....hahahahaha i;ve beeen dying to ask this.......can a sr based engine match up or exceed the perforamcne of the grea HOnda Saviour..the K20A?....



come with proof eh......lets see....

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Postby Maserati » May 6th, 2007, 3:16 am

in a stock form I dont think so. when it comes to n/a honda is jus amazing

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Postby DrunkenMaster16 » May 6th, 2007, 9:41 am

^^ done talk.

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Postby JDM_GUY » May 6th, 2007, 9:56 am

^^ But he is right..."Maserati" that is.... NA is always Honda strong point. :lol:

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Postby Zandolie » May 6th, 2007, 9:56 am

I know of one particular K20.....that running pass SR like ATO.

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Postby RASC » May 6th, 2007, 11:31 am

Stock vs. Stock
K20A wins...next question :!:

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Postby stephanweaver » May 6th, 2007, 11:53 am

hoss a sr20 cah even tess a b16, it go come round a k20?

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Postby RASC » May 6th, 2007, 12:52 pm

SR20VE/// NOT sr20de

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Postby Sinister_Audio » May 6th, 2007, 1:12 pm

stock for stock,
im sad to say but most likely the k20 might take win

like the new civic type r... isnt that a k20a?
and isnt it 260hp? bone stock?

isnt that some scary shiznit?

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Postby 2NR Smurf » May 6th, 2007, 1:21 pm

^its "bone stock" only because it comes off honda's assembly line like that...
if yuh follow what im sayin

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Postby stephanweaver » May 6th, 2007, 2:19 pm

sr20ve same ting as sr20de just different numbers on paper, nothing meaningful in the real world!

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Postby RASC » May 6th, 2007, 2:34 pm

stephanweaver wrote:sr20ve same ting as sr20de just different numbers on paper, nothing meaningful in the real world!


SR20de and SR20ve are two totally different animals in N/A form :!:

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Postby Monk BANzai » May 6th, 2007, 4:17 pm

...so we saying that Honda will win?...hmm.....(takes notes....)......


what is the stock HP rating of a K20a?


interesting.....(grins...)

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Postby blue_toothbrush » May 6th, 2007, 5:15 pm

220bhp is the rating of a K20a motor (The DC5 ITR and EP3 CTR carries the k20a motor mated with a 6spd gearbox)

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Postby Monk BANzai » May 6th, 2007, 5:40 pm

so we looking at a NIssan homolgomation that nets say 230hp then?...in na/ form right?

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Postby R. Mutt » May 6th, 2007, 5:46 pm

stephanweaver wrote:sr20ve same ting as sr20de just different numbers on paper, nothing meaningful in the real world!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby sirbill » May 6th, 2007, 7:46 pm

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:so we looking at a NIssan homolgomation that nets say 230hp then?...in na/ form right?


And that wont blow up doing it seeing as it would probrably have french blood in it :D

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Postby blue_toothbrush » May 6th, 2007, 8:42 pm

Which NA nissan motor makes over 220bhp stock?????

The k20a is a NA beast

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Postby stephanweaver » May 6th, 2007, 8:45 pm

interestering

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Postby paz » May 6th, 2007, 9:28 pm

honestly i think it depends on the chassis the k20a and the sr20ve is in ..

actually i remember a primera with ah ve getting manners from a civic with a d16 ...both drivers are on the forums

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Postby paz » May 6th, 2007, 9:38 pm

^^^r mutt and silvermike

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Postby Maserati » May 6th, 2007, 10:10 pm

honestly i think it depends on the chassis the k20a and the sr20ve is in ..

sr20 in a B13 and the k20 in a civic..is level licks for that B13

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Postby paz » May 6th, 2007, 11:29 pm

k20a in a dc5 integra ...sr20ve ina b11 or b12?????

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Postby R. Mutt » May 7th, 2007, 12:14 am

paz wrote:^^^r mutt and silvermike


:lol: ...very true...the primera got owned. The primera is a heavy chassis to have such a lovely engine imo. The former owner of that car always said it himself (sr18primera/jusidle). I think VE motors are best suited to B13s or B14s. They've been proven to run in the high 12 to low 13 range with bolt ons and slicks/street radials. (In the states at least)

I think overall however, as an engine, the K20A takes the cake.

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Postby A33_VQ35 » May 7th, 2007, 8:32 am

gras wrote:Which NA nissan motor makes over 220bhp stock?????

The k20a is a NA beast


But yuh fass an outa place..........

VQ25HR

Nissan updated the VQ line for 2007. The 2.5 L VQ25HR (for "High Revolution" or "High Response") is only available on rear wheel drive vehicles. It produces 225 PS (165 kW) @6800 rpm and 194 ft·lbf (263 Nm) @4800 rpm with a compression ratio of 10.6:1. It has CVTC, microfinished camshafts and redline of 7500 rpm. The intake is a high-flow tuned induction system.

VQ30DE

The 3.0 L (2,987 cc) VQ30DE produces 190 to 227 hp (142 to 169 kW) @6400 rpm and 205 to 217 ft·lbf (277 to 294 Nm) @4400 rpm. Bore and stroke are 93 mm and 73.3 mm with a compression ratio of 10.0:1. The VQ30DE was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list from 1995 through 2001. It is an aluminum open deck block design with microfinished internals and relatively light weight. The VQ30DEK produces 222 hp (166 kW) and was made for the 2000-2001 Nissan Maxima.

The improved VQ30DE used from 2000-2001 adds a true dual-runner intake manifold for better high-end performance compared to some earlier Japanese and Middle-East market versions of this engine.


VQ35DE

The 3.5 L (3498 cc) VQ35DE is used in many modern Nissan vehicles. It uses the same block found in the VQ30DE, but adds variable valve timing. It has a bore of 95.5 mm and stroke of 81.4 mm. Output ranges from 240 hp to 306 hp (179 to 228 kW) and 246 ft·lbf to 287 ft·lbf (334 to 390 Nm).

The VQ35DE is built in Iwaki, Japan and Decherd, TN. It was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2002 through 2007. It features forged steel connecting rods, a microfinished one-piece cast camshaft, and Nissan's nylon intake manifold technology. It has low-friction molybdenum-coated pistons and the intake system is a high-flow tuned induction system.

A modified version of the VQ35DE, called the S1, is produced by Nismo (Nissan's motorpsorts and performance division) for the Fairlady Z S-Tune GT. It produces 300 PS or 285 hp (220 kW) at 7200 rpm - a higher rev-limit than that of the original VQ35DE. The 350Z GT-S concept has a VQ35DE equipped with a switchable Novidem supercharger, producing around 377 hp (281 kW) with the supercharger switched on. The engine may possibly be referred to as the VQ35DER if the GT-S goes into production.


VQ35HR

Nissan updated the VQ line for 2007 with the addition of the 3.5 L VQ35HR (for "High Revolution" or "High Response"). It produces 315 PS or 311 hp (232 kW) @6800 rpm and 268 ft·lbf (358 Nm) @4800 rpm and compression ratio is 10.6:1. It has NDIS (Nissan Direct Ignition System) and CVTC with hydraulic actuation on the intake cam and electromagnetic on exhaust cam. Redline is 7500 rpm. The intake is a high-flow tuned induction system.


VQ37VHR

The VQ37VHR is a 3.7 L (3696 cc) engine with a higher compression ratio (11.0:1) than the VQ35HR. It is rated at 330 hp (246 kW) and 270 ft·lbf (366 Nm). Bore is 95.5 mm with 86 mm stroke. Although the engine only gains 2 ft·lbf of torque at peak, the torque curve itself is improved and flattened all around by as much as 15%. Redline remains 7500 rpm. It marks the first use of Nissan's VVEL (Variable Valve Event and Lift) system on a production vehicle.

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Postby stephanweaver » May 7th, 2007, 8:38 am

like i said, thats just textbook figures, lets see them in a b14 and running.

it have couple sr16ve, more textbook numbers than honda, and it aint performing for better numbers.

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Postby A33_VQ35 » May 7th, 2007, 8:50 am

^^^ soon soon......... But i guess that's why a CRV couldn't come round me sat night, walk past him with my bone stock cefiro........

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Postby Monk BANzai » May 7th, 2007, 9:03 am

ok..ok....so it is that most "performing" hondas use this K24/K20 frank style of engine building?....what advantages does that hold?....and if the K20 is SUCH a strong base, why frankie it?

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Postby Picasso » May 7th, 2007, 9:11 am

it have couple sr16ve, more textbook numbers than honda, and it aint performing for better numbers.


Yeah but which SR16VE Red top or Blue top ? Fellas getting tie up out here. That SR20DE and VE comparison to the K20a is not even fair. The K20a head and cams vs the SR20VE and SR20DE Head and cams is chalk and cheese. These engines are not evenly matched at all. Check the specs on both motors then think of an SR20DE or SR20VE with those modes. You are comparing a super Saloon engine vs something with alot of work done with reguards to serious performance.

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Postby stephanweaver » May 7th, 2007, 9:22 am

Picasso wrote:
it have couple sr16ve, more textbook numbers than honda, and it aint performing for better numbers.


Yeah but which SR16VE Red top or Blue top ? Fellas getting tie up out here. That SR20DE and VE comparison to the K20a is not even fair. The K20a head and cams vs the SR20VE and SR20DE Head and cams is chalk and cheese. These engines are not evenly matched at all. Check the specs on both motors then think of an SR20DE or SR20VE with those modes. You are comparing a super Saloon engine vs something with alot of work done with reguards to serious performance.



i glad u know this, so why men is want to compare a 2.0litre, or sr20 to a 1.6 b16a?

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