Problem....

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

Everytime i mash the clutch , the cars idle goes under 900 RPM and cuts off.....Now , the clutch is goin only halfway down and i cant engage any gears...

All thoughts are welcomed!

[Marct]

clutch shot time to change it, sounds like its worn to sheit.

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

All of a sudden?
And that would count for the idle dropping when i mash the clutch?

[JWT]

clutch gorne
thas the only thing

[JJ16]

clutch gone..u say it only mashing half way, bleed it and see if it works the same after..but really sounds like ur clutch gone..

wud ur gearbox mount cause anyting like that???

and well wat about the master cylinder wud that cause that also?? check ur gearbox fluid see if it gud...stuff like that..

and were u ruffin up the car right before that happen?? light u was ringin it out and ting..or u was drivin normal and jus so jus so it happen?

[AllTrac]

while accelerating does it slip?

[redsupra101]

no.. check
car off, put it in 1st and mash clutch and try to start. the car start or it jump or the gear grate?
if it jump or grate..... and u have a sprung clutch...... could be a popped spring?

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

car starting as usual. No slipping of gears.
Has fluid in cylinder...
Was drivin normal....seriously..
then all of a sudden, cant mash clutch pedal to floor.
Started in 2nd and had to drive home like that..

[redsupra101]

popped spring? misaligned clutch?

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

Thanks guys ...at the end of the day....GEARBOX tomorrow

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

what about possibility of master cylinder rubers etc?

[MISHI]

Pressure plate and/ or clutch disc. The fork is pushing the bearing so it works....but if it not going all the way, the p. plate may have been compromised in some way and could lead to the clutch being damaged...

[ronsin1]

what about possibility of master cylinder rubers etc?

Possibility happend to me one time and this was the problem

[MISHI]

ronsin1, ^ Did you have fluid in the resevoir

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

my fluid runs low pretty often ..

[MISHI]

really.....then isolate the leak first....check the slave cylinder.

then check your pressure plate.

btw do you get any vibration or noises?

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

nope.no noises....however b4 it went all together as i said b4, evertime i mashed the clutch the car wouldnt idle

[X2]

I'm interested to find out why your idle is being affected by the clutch ?

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

^^^My point exactly
Although, it could be that because the clutch wasnt being fully engaged, while slowing to a stop while in a gear, that i was actually still "in gear",thus causing the engines rpm to drop even though the clutch pedal was mashed all the way down?

[X2]

then ur car would still be pulled by the engine... try it from a stop...

[Hoddie]

Leak on your clutch mater cylinder possibly? Is that not pressurized by your vac circuit? If so, when you press it, you leak fluid and vacuum simultaneously...resulting in lower RPM and stall. My $0.02...

Good luck with it...

[krack korn]

I'm with MISHI on this one, pressure plate is somehow damaged or something is preventing it from releasing by getting between the diaphram spring around the centre and the clutch itself. Possibly a bit of the clutch friction material or a spring/rubber from the clutch.

So two things when you mash the clutch first the spring cannot depress fully since it is coming ito contact with something and that something is pressing against your clutch center (metal part) the clutch is presing against flywheel causing revs to drop, this should only happen if u in a gear though, if you in neutral revs should not drop but clutch would still go only halfway.

Whatever it is you gotta split the box off the engine to find out for sure. Have someone press the clutch and you watch the slave cylinder and the fork arm see if u see anything unusual.

[cinco]

im with hoddie
but also is the clutch hydraulic or cable activated?
if its cable maybe the cable is snagged or kinked thats why its not fully depressing if its hydraulic i wud say look for a leak. sounds more like a linkage problem than ah physical problem to me

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

will keep u posted

[horsepwrjunki]

sounds liek the pplate or disc gone.. had this prob with my car.. where the spring cage broke and the spring walked ... no warnign.. was driving actualy slow.. stoped at a red light pulled off.. then no clutch...

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

^^^pretty much

Lemme ask something tho....was fishin around and at the bottom of the cable under the gearbox, theres a connector of some sort to the gearbox.
It it not connected tho but rather resting there.I let someone mash the clutch while i held it in place and the clutch goes all the way down.
Put in in gear while pressed down and started ,but the car still jumped foward.
so my question there is , is it possible that i have 2 problems?

[MISHI]

cable under the box??? connector? I´m lost

isn´t it hydraulic clutch you have?

can you give a better description....

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

see if this is of any help...
forgive the sketch but best for now...

[MISHI]

B would be the slave cylinder...(piece with flex rubber and pin)

A is the clutch fork extension.

if it is at c then something is wrong definately with your hydraulic line system.


Check the image below




First off check the slave cylinder and see...this could be your initial problem....

Secondly if that is fine, check where the line meets on the top of the box...where the lines connect at the loop with the fastener (B)

Thirdly check the line at the master cylinder connection...... (C)

What is the colour of the fluid.....jet black?....if so then rubbers gone.

If you pur fluid and pump the pedal a bit, and also press and hold down for a few seconds, check to see if any fluid leaked....

if so, then once you haven´t driven the car and it´s cold you may be able so smell the fluid from where it´s leaking.

I still feel you have a problem inside the box, but to be sure, fix the outside problem first...it could save you from having to pull the entire box down

[krack korn]

That looking like the selector arm or the selector arm stabiliser, it run towards the gear lever? it have two like that under the gearbox? Ah seeing ah nex one draw in outline there.

Well if is that they both need to be connected, the stabiliser needs to be rigidly connected to the box via a rubber bushing and a bolt tru the bushing.

The selector arm should be linked to the box on a flexible joint somewhat like a universal joint.

The part for the clutch and fork etc should be on top the gearbox.