What's going on in the Middle East?

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How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

[alfa]

How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

They did actually. In the early days of Islam the battle of Khaybar was fought against Jewish agression both direct and indirect.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Apologise for retaliation?

apologize for targeting civilians by individually shooting them dead or bombing them with grenades by the 100s and taking them hostage, oh and raping a few women too. and they gladly recorded a woman on video with blood on her pants right between her legs being put into a vehicle so dont say it didnt happen.

I absolutely do not condone the Oct 7th attack in any way.
I am only saying that this did not start on Oct 7th - there has been conflict in that area with attacks from both sides for over 7 decades. Oct 7th was a retaliation.

I would love to know when this whole thing started in your opinion

But we went through this much earlier in the thread. And it's not my opinion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

So it matters not to you,I assume that the occupants before the British ousted them were also colonizers of the area that displaced the previous occupants?
[url]History of Palestine - Wikipedia https://share.google/TVfVIolNdZDFZ2TaF[/url]

The current conflict is about the Palestinians and the State of Israel.
When I said it is not my opinion I meant it is based on fact and not just what I think.
And yes the area is ancient and has been populated for millennia.

This is my problem.I can't cherry pick history

Who's cherry-picking?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

[matr1x]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

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How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

[zoom rader]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

[matr1x]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

Fool, are the illegals coming from those countries?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

[Dizzy28]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

Whispers softly: Dubai is the UAE (as is Sharjah and Abu Dhabi and the other four Emirates nobody remembers).


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How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

I suggest that you check pre World War 2.History doesn't begin there.
A simple Google search will help.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

I suggest that you check pre World War 2.History doesn't begin there.
A simple Google search will help.

The section in bold is all pre WWII

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If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

Fool, are the illegals coming from those countries?

Dummy here are the facts.

Most of the reasons why illegals especially the UK is the fact of US & UK intervention.

Intervention is the where the UK & US purposely destabilise these countries.

Afghanistan was abused by the US in the 1980s over Russia and we all know the story of fake wars, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.

Sudan War is US intervention once again where they created this.



Key Findings (Most Recent Data)

Year Ending March 2025

The most common nationality detected arriving irregularly in the UK was Afghanistan, with 6,051 arrivals (majority via small boats) .

Overall, migrants from five nationalities—Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Eritrea, and Sudan—accounted for nearly 57% of detected irregular arrivals .


Calendar Year 2024

The most common nationalities among migrants detected entering illegally were:

Afghanistan: 15% (6,339 individuals)

Iran: 12% (5,370 individuals)

Syria: 11% (4,945 individuals)

Eritrea and Vietnam: each 9% (~3,920 and ~3,798 respectively) .


In terms of routes, Afghan nationals were the most common among small-boat Channel arrivals (17%) .



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Summary

Afghans are consistently the single largest nationality group among irregular arrivals.

Other significant groups include Iranians, Syrians, Eritreans, and Vietnamese, especially in 2024.

[zoom rader]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

Whispers softly: Dubai is the UAE (as is Sharjah and Abu Dhabi and the other four Emirates nobody remembers).


Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app

Yes, I laid it out to expand it.

The fact is Europeans love to live and work in these countries.

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How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

I suggest that you check pre World War 2.History doesn't begin there.
A simple Google search will help.

The section in bold is all pre WWII

Early Bronze Age I (c. 3700–3100 BCE), parallel to the Late Uruk period of Mesopotamia and the pre-dynastic Naqada culture of Egypt. The construction of several temple-like structures in that period attests to the accumulation of social power. Evidence of contact and immigration to Lower Egypt is found in the abundance of pottery vessels of southern–Levantine type, found in sites across the Nile, such as Abydos. During the last two hundred years of that period and following the unification of Egypt and pharaoh Narmer, an Egyptian colony appeared in the southern Levantine coast, with its center at Tell es-Sakan (modern-day Gaza Strip). The overall nature of this colony as well as its relation with the hinterlands has been debated by archaeologists.
Between 1550 and 1400 BCE, the Canaanite city-states became vassals to the New Kingdom of Egypt. Political, commercial and military events towards the end of this period (1450–1350 BCE) were recorded by ambassadors and Canaanite proxy rulers for Egypt in 379 cuneiform tablets known as the Amarna Letters.
In the first year of his reign, the pharaoh Seti I (r. c. 1294–1290 BCE) waged a campaign to re-subordinate Canaan to Egyptian rule, thrusting north as far as Beit She'an, and installing local vassals to administer the area in his name. The Egyptian Stelae in the Levant, most notably the Beisan steles, and a burial site yielding a scarab bearing the name Seti found within a Canaanite coffin excavated in the Jezreel Valley, attests to Egypt's presence in the area.[29]
After the withdrawal of the Egyptians, Canaan became home to the Israelites and the Philistines. The Israelites settled the central highlands, a loosely defined highland region stretching from the Judean hills in the south to the Samarian hills in the north. Based on the archaeological evidence, they did not overtake the region by force, but instead branched out of the indigenous Canaanite peoples.[35][36][37] During the 12th century BCE, the Philistines, who had immigrated from the Aegean region, settled in the southern coast of Palestine.

There were many political shifts back and forth until

The siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE was the decisive event of the First Jewish–Roman War (66–73 CE), a major rebellion against Roman rule in the province of Judaea. Led by Titus, Roman forces besieged the Jewish capital, which had become the main stronghold of the revolt. After months of fighting, they breached its defenses, destroyed the Second Temple, razed most of the city, and killed, enslaved, or displaced a large portion of its population. The fall of Jerusalem marked the effective end of the Jewish revolt and had far-reaching political, religious, and cultural (This is when the Jews mainly fled their homeland )

Between 636 and 640, the Muslim armies of the second Islamic caliph Umar conquered Palestine.[179][lxxiii][lxxiv] Under Islamic rule, Christians, Jews and Samaritans were protected as fellow Abrahamic monotheists or "peoples of the Book" and allowed to practice their religions in peace.[211] The Muslims also lifted the Romans' centuries-long ban on Jews in Jerusalem.[212]

You guys can read the rest
[url]History of Palestine - Wikipedia https://share.google/d309vy0Ql820pC6JX[/url]

Palestine does not belong to descendants of their colonizers.
Similarly India does not belong to descendants of any of their colonizers .
Similarly African Nations should not belong to any descendants of their colonizers .

Wrong and strong could never be right

[matr1x]

If you look at Europe, and their shitstorm due to illegal immigrants from this region, we should appreciate what Israel is fighting against.

Rather than be grateful in integrate with the new culture, they instead want to mold Europe into the garbage pile they left behind. The problem is, limp wristed men, doh have the strength or courage to lay down the law, and want everyone to be manipulated by some false sense of morality birthed by a culture that actively hates them

Europeans love to live in UAE ,Dubai ,Kuwait, Bahrain.

So u talking utter śĥîŧ

Fool, are the illegals coming from those countries?

Dummy here are the facts.

Most of the reasons why illegals especially the UK is the fact of US & UK intervention.

Intervention is the where the UK & US purposely destabilise these countries.

Afghanistan was abused by the US in the 1980s over Russia and we all know the story of fake wars, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.

Sudan War is US intervention once again where they created this.



Key Findings (Most Recent Data)

Year Ending March 2025

The most common nationality detected arriving irregularly in the UK was Afghanistan, with 6,051 arrivals (majority via small boats) .

Overall, migrants from five nationalities—Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Eritrea, and Sudan—accounted for nearly 57% of detected irregular arrivals .


Calendar Year 2024

The most common nationalities among migrants detected entering illegally were:

Afghanistan: 15% (6,339 individuals)

Iran: 12% (5,370 individuals)

Syria: 11% (4,945 individuals)

Eritrea and Vietnam: each 9% (~3,920 and ~3,798 respectively) .


In terms of routes, Afghan nationals were the most common among small-boat Channel arrivals (17%) .



---

Summary

Afghans are consistently the single largest nationality group among irregular arrivals.

Other significant groups include Iranians, Syrians, Eritreans, and Vietnamese, especially in 2024.

So, my point is, none of the affluent middle east countries have the immigrants crisis


You can blame the US all you want, but the fact is, the regimes there was a mess. So, why go to another and try to make it like home?

[matr1x]

Hamas could just give up and let the hostages go.....

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How far back do you suggest we go? Cuz at some point everyone invaded someone else. We are living a life of relative comfort in the west because Trinidad and its natives were conquered centuries ago. However if it was still ongoing today that should be an issue to be raised. Centuries ago, not so much

Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

I suggest that you check pre World War 2.History doesn't begin there.
A simple Google search will help.

The section in bold is all pre WWII

Early Bronze Age I (c. 3700–3100 BCE), parallel to the Late Uruk period of Mesopotamia and the pre-dynastic Naqada culture of Egypt. The construction of several temple-like structures in that period attests to the accumulation of social power. Evidence of contact and immigration to Lower Egypt is found in the abundance of pottery vessels of southern–Levantine type, found in sites across the Nile, such as Abydos. During the last two hundred years of that period and following the unification of Egypt and pharaoh Narmer, an Egyptian colony appeared in the southern Levantine coast, with its center at Tell es-Sakan (modern-day Gaza Strip). The overall nature of this colony as well as its relation with the hinterlands has been debated by archaeologists.
Between 1550 and 1400 BCE, the Canaanite city-states became vassals to the New Kingdom of Egypt. Political, commercial and military events towards the end of this period (1450–1350 BCE) were recorded by ambassadors and Canaanite proxy rulers for Egypt in 379 cuneiform tablets known as the Amarna Letters.
In the first year of his reign, the pharaoh Seti I (r. c. 1294–1290 BCE) waged a campaign to re-subordinate Canaan to Egyptian rule, thrusting north as far as Beit She'an, and installing local vassals to administer the area in his name. The Egyptian Stelae in the Levant, most notably the Beisan steles, and a burial site yielding a scarab bearing the name Seti found within a Canaanite coffin excavated in the Jezreel Valley, attests to Egypt's presence in the area.[29]
After the withdrawal of the Egyptians, Canaan became home to the Israelites and the Philistines. The Israelites settled the central highlands, a loosely defined highland region stretching from the Judean hills in the south to the Samarian hills in the north. Based on the archaeological evidence, they did not overtake the region by force, but instead branched out of the indigenous Canaanite peoples.[35][36][37] During the 12th century BCE, the Philistines, who had immigrated from the Aegean region, settled in the southern coast of Palestine.

There were many political shifts back and forth until

The siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE was the decisive event of the First Jewish–Roman War (66–73 CE), a major rebellion against Roman rule in the province of Judaea. Led by Titus, Roman forces besieged the Jewish capital, which had become the main stronghold of the revolt. After months of fighting, they breached its defenses, destroyed the Second Temple, razed most of the city, and killed, enslaved, or displaced a large portion of its population. The fall of Jerusalem marked the effective end of the Jewish revolt and had far-reaching political, religious, and cultural (This is when the Jews mainly fled their homeland )

Between 636 and 640, the Muslim armies of the second Islamic caliph Umar conquered Palestine.[179][lxxiii][lxxiv] Under Islamic rule, Christians, Jews and Samaritans were protected as fellow Abrahamic monotheists or "peoples of the Book" and allowed to practice their religions in peace.[211] The Muslims also lifted the Romans' centuries-long ban on Jews in Jerusalem.[212]

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[url]History of Palestine - Wikipedia https://share.google/d309vy0Ql820pC6JX[/url]

Palestine does not belong to descendants of their colonizers.
Similarly India does not belong to descendants of any of their colonizers .
Similarly African Nations should not belong to any descendants of their colonizers .

Wrong and strong could never be right

But I thought you said it was about religion?

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Think of it this way, if Jews had invaded Mecca centuries ago, what would the recent Muslims think?

Jerusalem is a sacred place for Jews, Christians and Muslims.
But this conflict is not about religion. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement by definition. The Levant is a subregion of West Asia that borders the Eastern Mediterranean sea to the west of which Palestine is part of.

Now I'm even more curious to know what you think happened in Palestine post WWII to lead to this current conflict.

To the Zionists,it is about religion.
Apparently the God of Abraham is an ole injun.
He promised all three of his children the land and told each of them that they are the chosen one.
Every modern occupant of that land says that they are the rightful owner of the land.
As far as all Abrahamic religions agree in their scriptures, that land belonged to Egypt. However it was done, Egypt gave that land to the Zios as per the Balfour Agreement, because it was theirs to give.
Let's bring it home.
You have squatters on land that has been in your family for decades. You decide to sell that land. The buyer bulldozes the squatter's houses etc.
Are you saying that the squatters have all the rights?

Check your history
Palestine was never “owned” by Egypt.
Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967 but never annexed it.
For centuries Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire (from the 1500s to World War I). It was not part of Egypt even though Egypt itself was under Ottoman control.
After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate — it was not Egyptian territory.
Theodor Herzl the father of modern political Zionism initially considered Argentina and Uganda as possible places to set up a Jewish state. The Balfour Declaration saw the British open up to the idea of a Jewish state being in Palestine.
In 1947 the United Nations proposed a partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states. The Zionist leadership accepted the plan but the Arab states (including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq) rejected it and entered the conflict after Israel declared independence in 1948.
Keep in mind Zionist leaders in Palestine unilaterally declared Israel as an independent state - not through a vote at the UN or agreement with Arab states. Israel declared itself a state by itself and then sought international recognition afterward.
After the war Jordan annexed the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip in 1948 — though it did not annex it, unlike what Netanyahu is planning to do now.
Egyptian control over Gaza was formalized by the 1949 Armistice Agreements and lasted until Israel captured Gaza in the 1967 Six-Day War.
From 1967 to 2005 Israel maintained military control over Gaza and established Israeli settlements there even though Gaza's population remained predominantly Palestinian living under Israeli occupation until Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 but kept control over its land and maritime borders and airspace (no airport allowed), population registry, ID card, passport etc, blockade of goods, control over fuel and electricity, imports. The UN considers Gaza is still occupied territory under international law.

I suggest that you check pre World War 2.History doesn't begin there.
A simple Google search will help.

The section in bold is all pre WWII

Early Bronze Age I (c. 3700–3100 BCE), parallel to the Late Uruk period of Mesopotamia and the pre-dynastic Naqada culture of Egypt. The construction of several temple-like structures in that period attests to the accumulation of social power. Evidence of contact and immigration to Lower Egypt is found in the abundance of pottery vessels of southern–Levantine type, found in sites across the Nile, such as Abydos. During the last two hundred years of that period and following the unification of Egypt and pharaoh Narmer, an Egyptian colony appeared in the southern Levantine coast, with its center at Tell es-Sakan (modern-day Gaza Strip). The overall nature of this colony as well as its relation with the hinterlands has been debated by archaeologists.
Between 1550 and 1400 BCE, the Canaanite city-states became vassals to the New Kingdom of Egypt. Political, commercial and military events towards the end of this period (1450–1350 BCE) were recorded by ambassadors and Canaanite proxy rulers for Egypt in 379 cuneiform tablets known as the Amarna Letters.
In the first year of his reign, the pharaoh Seti I (r. c. 1294–1290 BCE) waged a campaign to re-subordinate Canaan to Egyptian rule, thrusting north as far as Beit She'an, and installing local vassals to administer the area in his name. The Egyptian Stelae in the Levant, most notably the Beisan steles, and a burial site yielding a scarab bearing the name Seti found within a Canaanite coffin excavated in the Jezreel Valley, attests to Egypt's presence in the area.[29]
After the withdrawal of the Egyptians, Canaan became home to the Israelites and the Philistines. The Israelites settled the central highlands, a loosely defined highland region stretching from the Judean hills in the south to the Samarian hills in the north. Based on the archaeological evidence, they did not overtake the region by force, but instead branched out of the indigenous Canaanite peoples.[35][36][37] During the 12th century BCE, the Philistines, who had immigrated from the Aegean region, settled in the southern coast of Palestine.

There were many political shifts back and forth until

The siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE was the decisive event of the First Jewish–Roman War (66–73 CE), a major rebellion against Roman rule in the province of Judaea. Led by Titus, Roman forces besieged the Jewish capital, which had become the main stronghold of the revolt. After months of fighting, they breached its defenses, destroyed the Second Temple, razed most of the city, and killed, enslaved, or displaced a large portion of its population. The fall of Jerusalem marked the effective end of the Jewish revolt and had far-reaching political, religious, and cultural (This is when the Jews mainly fled their homeland )

Between 636 and 640, the Muslim armies of the second Islamic caliph Umar conquered Palestine.[179][lxxiii][lxxiv] Under Islamic rule, Christians, Jews and Samaritans were protected as fellow Abrahamic monotheists or "peoples of the Book" and allowed to practice their religions in peace.[211] The Muslims also lifted the Romans' centuries-long ban on Jews in Jerusalem.[212]

You guys can read the rest
[url]History of Palestine - Wikipedia https://share.google/d309vy0Ql820pC6JX[/url]

Palestine does not belong to descendants of their colonizers.
Similarly India does not belong to descendants of any of their colonizers .
Similarly African Nations should not belong to any descendants of their colonizers .

Wrong and strong could never be right

But I thought you said it was about religion?

Neither the Arab settlers nor the Jew settlers can separate race from religion. Could you tell if Netinyahu is a Jew or a Muslim?
The Jews want their ancestral lands that they were evicted from by the Romans and the Muslims want the land that they captured.Muslim conquerors have a bad habit of targeting religious sites when they invade places to prove that their God is superior. Case in point Hagia Sofia, Thailand,Ram Janmabhoomi in India,Iraq,Syria,Libya, list goes on.

If it isn't about about holy land,why is it now the duty of Muslims worldwide to defend Palestine and nowhere else? What is so special about there? When the Islamic State was overthrowing Syria,where were they? They didn't even bother about the Rohingya massacre and that's their own people.
Too much hypocrisy.
Is still funny how no Muslim groups were in a hurry to denounce the activities of ISIS , Al Qaeda,Boko Haram or the rest of them. In fact , many of them were willing to leave their countries to assist the call for Jihad.
If you aren't Muslim big bro, I hope you are ready for if Islamists ever decide to try their luck in T&T again. I know some of them and I know their mentality.They would not hesitate to slaughter Kafirs.

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Most affected - neckbeards from countries not named Lebanon.

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