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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 27th, 2025, 10:14 pm

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People who say what is happening in Gaza is a Genocide:
President of the International Association of Genocide Scholars Dirk Moses who is the senior editor of the Journal of Genocide Research.
Eva Vukushic, who helped prosecute the Shrebbrin genocide says it's a genocide.
William Shabas who even defended Myanmar against charges of genocide against the Rohhinga but says what Israel is doing in Gaza now is a genocide.
Israeli genocide experts, the Israeli historians of the Holocaust who say Gaza is a genocide.
Professors Omar Barov, Amos Goldberg, Daniel Blatman, Raz Seagull, Lee Morai, Dr. Shmul Leman who was originally opposed to calling Gaza a genocide but now says quote what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocidal in every sense.
Human rights groups who say Gaza is a genocide:
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the legal clinics at top US universities who say it's a genocide at Boston University School of Law, at Cornell Law School, at Yale Law School, the United Nations organizations and experts who say it's a genocide.
The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, the UN special committee to investigate Israeli practices, multiple UN special reports. In fact, speaking the other week to the Dutch newspaper NRC, the Israeli expert Ras Segal said, "Can I name someone whose work I respect who doesn't consider it genocide?" His answer, "No".
The Israeli expert Leedman says it's now the consensus view among genocide researchers.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » May 28th, 2025, 3:39 am

You have to look at the members of the panels who in their own personal bias would come to that conclusion.

Most human rights groups are leftist retards who are trying to win brownie points

The military action might have gone a bit far to some, but seeing how there was an enthusiasm by pro Palestinians after October 7th, of the extermination of the Jewish state, and even active calls for it, Israel is protecting itself.

Protecting the citizens will always come first over the opinions of some navel gazers

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 28th, 2025, 7:24 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Transcript:
People who say what is happening in Gaza is a Genocide:
President of the International Association of Genocide Scholars Dirk Moses who is the senior editor of the Journal of Genocide Research.
Eva Vukushic, who helped prosecute the Shrebbrin genocide says it's a genocide.
William Shabas who even defended Myanmar against charges of genocide against the Rohhinga but says what Israel is doing in Gaza now is a genocide.
Israeli genocide experts, the Israeli historians of the Holocaust who say Gaza is a genocide.
Professors Omar Barov, Amos Goldberg, Daniel Blatman, Raz Seagull, Lee Morai, Dr. Shmul Leman who was originally opposed to calling Gaza a genocide but now says quote what Israel is doing in Gaza is genocidal in every sense.
Human rights groups who say Gaza is a genocide:
Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the legal clinics at top US universities who say it's a genocide at Boston University School of Law, at Cornell Law School, at Yale Law School, the United Nations organizations and experts who say it's a genocide.
The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, the UN special committee to investigate Israeli practices, multiple UN special reports. In fact, speaking the other week to the Dutch newspaper NRC, the Israeli expert Ras Segal said, "Can I name someone whose work I respect who doesn't consider it genocide?" His answer, "No".
The Israeli expert Leedman says it's now the consensus view among genocide researchers.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 28th, 2025, 11:30 am

^ The Wikipedia references are on the Qatari payroll too?

BTW what is this "end" you foresee?

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 28th, 2025, 11:40 am

380 writers and groups to call Gaza war ‘genocide’

Three hundred and eighty writers and organisations including Zadie Smith, Ian McEwan, Russell T Davies, Hanif Kureishi, Frank Cottrell-Boyce and George Monbiot have signed a letter stating that the Israeli government’s war in Gaza is genocidal and calling for an immediate ceasefire.

“The use of the words ‘genocide’ or ‘acts of genocide’ to describe what is happening in Gaza is no longer debated by international legal experts or human rights organizations,” reads the letter, which was also signed by William Dalrymple, Jeanette Winterson, Brian Eno, Kate Mosse, Irvine Welsh and Elif Shafak.

Organisations including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the United Nations human rights council have “clearly identified” acts of genocide enacted by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), the letter says, while public statements by the Israeli ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir “openly express genocidal intentions”.

“While states debate terminology – is it or is it not genocide? – Israel continues its relentless destruction of life in Gaza, through attacks by land, air and sea, displacing and massacring the surviving population with impunity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... ian-mcewan

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » May 28th, 2025, 11:48 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:380 writers and groups to call Gaza war ‘genocide’

Three hundred and eighty writers and organisations including Zadie Smith, Ian McEwan, Russell T Davies, Hanif Kureishi, Frank Cottrell-Boyce and George Monbiot have signed a letter stating that the Israeli government’s war in Gaza is genocidal and calling for an immediate ceasefire.

“The use of the words ‘genocide’ or ‘acts of genocide’ to describe what is happening in Gaza is no longer debated by international legal experts or human rights organizations,” reads the letter, which was also signed by William Dalrymple, Jeanette Winterson, Brian Eno, Kate Mosse, Irvine Welsh and Elif Shafak.

Organisations including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the United Nations human rights council have “clearly identified” acts of genocide enacted by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), the letter says, while public statements by the Israeli ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir “openly express genocidal intentions”.

“While states debate terminology – is it or is it not genocide? – Israel continues its relentless destruction of life in Gaza, through attacks by land, air and sea, displacing and massacring the surviving population with impunity.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... ian-mcewan



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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 28th, 2025, 12:00 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ The Wikipedia references are on the Qatari payroll too?

BTW what is this "end" you foresee?


The end is overall influence on ME policy.
Israel's is political and Qatar's is eventually both political together with what they curently have which is the public (universities and news channel).

At some point the public opinion will shape the political direction but its not yet there.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 28th, 2025, 1:51 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ The Wikipedia references are on the Qatari payroll too?

BTW what is this "end" you foresee?


The end is overall influence on ME policy.
Israel's is political and Qatar's is eventually both political together with what they curently have which is the public (universities and news channel).

At some point the public opinion will shape the political direction but its not yet there.

But it was public and international pressure that caused Israel to stop the blockade of aid into Gaza

Not humanity or care, it was mounting pressure

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 28th, 2025, 1:53 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/hama ... rcna209427

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 28th, 2025, 5:36 pm

Genocide can happen without a single death , and complicity can be committed with out a single murder.


In the future , there will be many books, studies , courses , documentaries about what is happening now . Not so much about what Isreal is doing, but about how the world powers let Israel do it, and the people who supported them.

The live streamed genocide , the most documented genocide.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » May 28th, 2025, 6:49 pm

Wait....wouldn't that implicate all of Islam? It does say kill all the non believers

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby coltspeed » May 28th, 2025, 9:20 pm

matr1x wrote:Wait....wouldn't that implicate all of Islam? It does say kill all the non believers


Yes Prajeet, Love with israel, now show Bob's and Vagene.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » May 29th, 2025, 3:19 am

coltspeed wrote:
matr1x wrote:Wait....wouldn't that implicate all of Islam? It does say kill all the non believers


Yes Prajeet, Love with israel, now show Bob's and Vagene.


Lol. That's funny

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 7:45 am

Its funny someone who would also be called pajeet by those who use it derogatively would think it's a flex

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 9:30 am

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » May 29th, 2025, 10:40 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Its funny someone who would also be called pajeet by those who use it derogatively would think it's a flex

You assuming he looks the part. Suppose he's a brotha or otherwise.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 10:49 am

alfa wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Its funny someone who would also be called pajeet by those who use it derogatively would think it's a flex

You assuming he looks the part. Suppose he's a brotha or otherwise.


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 8:48 pm

Those Jews in Auschwitz never walked out.
The Gazans had to line up for a few hours to get food.

But sure they are the same

The Palinazis want to be Jews so bad!!!

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 8:55 pm

Auschwitz!!









Actually a Taylor Swift concert line but same thing !!!
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 29th, 2025, 9:05 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Auschwitz!!









Actually a Taylor Swift concert line but same thing !!!
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If they change their minds they could go see a lizzo concert .

Palestinians will just go continue to starve or bombed.

Nice try to be funny tho..

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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This is Taylor swift opening song.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » May 29th, 2025, 9:07 pm

This Palestinian 6 yo girl said the swift concert was fire , y'all
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 9:26 pm

You quoting a fringe Israeli politician
Mainstream Gazans leaders have better gems
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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 29th, 2025, 10:01 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Auschwitz!!
Actually a Taylor Swift concert line but same thing !!!Screenshot_20250529-205409.jpg

Except one is for a first world music concert by fans and the other is starving people being corralled trying to get humanitarian aid.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 29th, 2025, 10:37 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Auschwitz!!
Actually a Taylor Swift concert line but same thing !!!Screenshot_20250529-205409.jpg

Except one is for a first world music concert by fans and the other is starving people being corralled trying to get humanitarian aid.
Do you agree it's like Auschwitz though?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » May 29th, 2025, 11:07 pm

In the spirit of finding a solution, you can forget a 2 state solution. What's other solution? Iran could take them

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 30th, 2025, 1:00 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Auschwitz!!
Actually a Taylor Swift concert line but same thing !!!Screenshot_20250529-205409.jpg

Except one is for a first world music concert by fans and the other is starving people being corralled trying to get humanitarian aid.
Do you agree it's like Auschwitz though?

I dunno
But pick one of these and see if they are exactly the same as any other on the list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby MaxPower » May 30th, 2025, 1:14 am

Flatten everything yes.

Start a fresh.

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