Water pump

[Dizzy28]

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

[pugboy]

better yuh buy a goulds even second hand

i just pickup a spare goulds at a garage sale weekend
$2k for a j5s with a 5gal pressure tank and nice lockoff valves etc

you can find them often of fb too

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

[Dave]

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

How often was it used?

[pugboy]

those small chinese pumps utilize smartheads
they can’t push the volume to pressurize a pressure tank.

so it likely runs longer than a pump which using a pressure tank and pressure switch

however the supposed benefit is that a smarthead trades off against the motor doing a lot of stop/starts which burns more current and stresses the motor mechanically

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

How often was it used?

[Dizzy28]

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

How often was it used?

With the way water pressure is. 4 days a week in most weeks all day long.

[Dizzy28]

better yuh buy a goulds even second hand

i just pickup a spare goulds at a garage sale weekend
$2k for a j5s with a 5gal pressure tank and nice lockoff valves etc

you can find them often of fb too

My Total SH pump finally fully died over the weekend. That would be 19 months of service from that.
Already passed in Water Source this morning and got myself a Pentax.

To late on the pump since I already buy the Pentax. Lets see how this one plays out and then Goulds for sure next time.

[alfa]

I see pentax launch a line of stainless steel housing pumps. This could be a gamechanger

[pugboy]

pentax does work but a little less powerful than equivalent horsepower goulds
and more likely to burn if tank runs dry
so you should install a float switch in the tank to protect the pump

[Dave]

Can the cheaper ones be repaired or it doesn't make sense?

[pugboy]

if motor burnt the cost to rewind ain’t worth it

motor rewinders dont do pentax either
they do goulds

Can the cheaper ones be repaired or it doesn't make sense?

[alfa]

The mechanicals can be rebuilt easily though, did mine recently by changing bearings, seal, machining pitted shaft and installed a new diffuser. At the price almost half the price of a Gould's I always prefer the Pentax especially seeing that both rusts just as fast.

As for dry tank motor burnout I'm not sure how it happens as the motor would be running on no load with minimal current draw. It's the start stop that stresses the windings.

Also I could never understand how people let tanks run dry. I put a weighted string outside connected to a half filled water bottle that floats on the inside. When there's tank is empty the weight will be at the top and vice versa

[Val]

pentax does work but a little less powerful than equivalent horsepower goulds
and more likely to burn if tank runs dry
so you should install a float switch in the tank to protect the pump

Yes to your first statement, Pentax delivers less flow than the equivalent Xylem by HP.
Both Pentax and Xylem use motors that have thermistor protection so if they overheat, they will trip, as will happen during long periods of dry run.
100% agreed on the float switch, as thermistor protection isn't foolproof, and your motor still has to get really hot to trip, but the float will stop your pump from starting well before any dry run, and if set right, will prevent you from picking up the dregs in your tank when it runs low.

Personally, I use both Pentax and Xylem pumps at home, both have good support and you can find spares locally easily).

[pugboy]

not all the pentax have the overheat protection
if you watch the label with specs there are little boxes where it is or is not checked off

[Dizzy28]

Pentax got installed yesterday when I was in work. Didn't take it out the box. When I came home I was stunned to see the size difference between it and the Total despite both being 1/2HPs.
The Pentax is almost twice the size.

[alfa]

Pentax got installed yesterday when I was in work. Didn't take it out the box. When I came home I was stunned to see the size difference between it and the Total despite both being 1/2HPs.
The Pentax is almost twice the size.

Peripheral vs centrifugal pump. Same HP different sizes

[alfa]

I see Pentax launch a stainless steel line a while now. Any reviews on it?

[VexXx Dogg]

I see Pentax launch a stainless steel line a while now. Any reviews on it?

Installed hp inox on a new home build. Haven’t moved in yet, but during testing performance is identical to the hp cast iron version . The only difference is supposedly “less rusting” but time will tell. Cost difference was negligible.

[eitech]

What are good alternative pressure tank brands for replacement of a welxtrol on a goulds 1/2 hp?

[Skillys]

What are good alternative pressure tank brands for replacement of a welxtrol on a goulds 1/2 hp?

A.O smith and Zilmet

[alfa]

What are good alternative pressure tank brands for replacement of a welxtrol on a goulds 1/2 hp?

Zilmet distributed by Watersource. Got an 18L going almost 7 years now