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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby timelapse » April 30th, 2025, 7:53 am

sMASH wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:yea but going by somebody for whatever reason shouldn't mean they should have authority to kill u
everybody have a gun mean ppl including bandit will shoot first.
homicides will increase from all sides
it is a poorly thought out idea
check other places that implemented it -- does nothing but increase homicides
Why u going by other people if thry don't like u?

Why do you like chaos this much?

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby alfa » April 30th, 2025, 9:15 am

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May we consider firearms for home use only and not personal carry? Handle your stories on the inside, and the TTPS on the outside. It’s the same as a hunter having his shotgun at home and cannot do personal carry.

Thoughts?

That's actually a great idea to reduce home invasions and free up the backlog. Issue something along the lines of an air rifle permit with some extra checks and limit the FUL to a long barrel shotgun, limited capacity, not to be used outside your estate. After a few years if you're responsible enough fast track to handgun if desired.
It's all up to the new govt to see what they'll do if anything to the current process ... Fingers crossed

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby timelapse » April 30th, 2025, 10:50 am

alfa wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
May we consider firearms for home use only and not personal carry? Handle your stories on the inside, and the TTPS on the outside. It’s the same as a hunter having his shotgun at home and cannot do personal carry.

Thoughts?

That's actually a great idea to reduce home invasions and free up the backlog. Issue something along the lines of an air rifle permit with some extra checks and limit the FUL to a long barrel shotgun, limited capacity, not to be used outside your estate. After a few years if you're responsible enough fast track to handgun if desired.
It's all up to the new govt to see what they'll do if anything to the current process ... Fingers crossed


I agree with Max on this point.
Let's be self aware as a people.
As a collective, Trinidadians are not disciplined enough to
-Drive vehicles properly
-Consume alcohol responsibly
-Socially interact responsibly
-Follow any kind of rule
-Follow any kind of common sense
-Control their emotions

What makes anybody think that we are capable as a people of being in possessions of firearms

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby pugboy » April 30th, 2025, 11:03 am

if we want to reduce serious violent crimes
we need to clamp down on the small areas and escape routes these bandits come from
it’s not secret where they come from…

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby MaxPower » April 30th, 2025, 11:08 am

The TTPS should be improved first before anything.

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Re: *** The 2025 GENERAL ELECTION thread***

Postby pugboy » April 30th, 2025, 11:13 am

need to get rid of the dcp jokers who got promoted after gg

MaxPower wrote:The TTPS should be improved first before anything.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby VexXx Dogg » April 30th, 2025, 11:15 am

Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby timelapse » April 30th, 2025, 11:22 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

Imagine one of those in the hands of your village idiot ...

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby *KRONIK* » April 30th, 2025, 11:25 am

timelapse wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

Imagine one of those in the hands of your village idiot ...
Hello, i have arrived

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » April 30th, 2025, 12:37 pm

*KRONIK* wrote:
timelapse wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

Imagine one of those in the hands of your village idiot ...
Hello, i have arrived

Pew pew in they MC

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby *KRONIK* » April 30th, 2025, 12:41 pm

alfa wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:
timelapse wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

Imagine one of those in the hands of your village idiot ...
Hello, i have arrived

Pew pew in they MC
Pax, pax, paxxxx

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby redmanjp » April 30th, 2025, 12:52 pm

there should be a change in law to allow DCPs from each division to approve FULs to cut down the backlog as well as deal with all the new applications that going to come now that UNC in power- but the COP can revoke a FUL if necessary

also each applicant must pass all requirements- but once that is done the COP/DCP should not refuse to give it - i.e. change the law from 'may issue' to' shall issue'. but later on any irresponsible action by the FUL owner can result in the FUL suspended or revoked.

and just like a driving test- there should be a test to show proficiency- both written as well as on a firing range. not just say u went training

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » April 30th, 2025, 1:02 pm

folks make sure and get allyuh CoC asap before it have a backlog
look like plenty ppl looking for ful again
so even if yuh have old application inside they does want updated coc

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » April 30th, 2025, 1:03 pm

alfa wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:
timelapse wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Just give homeowners adequate defence protection.
A benelli M4 tactical could work

Imagine one of those in the hands of your village idiot ...
Hello, i have arrived

Pew pew in they MC
HUAH!

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » April 30th, 2025, 1:16 pm

Those who already have applications inside should email them asking for an update. Don't waste time going in, email gives written evidence of seeking info if you ever need to escalate legally.
Hopefully they'll respond now unlike previously

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby mero » April 30th, 2025, 1:56 pm

Smash wanna rest some corn on a boy badddd. Hadda watch smash yes.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby sMASH » April 30th, 2025, 2:06 pm

mero wrote:Smash wanna rest some corn on a boy badddd. Hadda watch smash yes.
Watch from out side, and stand your ground legislation does not exist.

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the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 4th, 2025, 9:32 am

Some points to note.

. The population may be under the assumption that FULs will be shared out like hampers and food cards.

. Load up the matic and empty the clip culture must stop. Stand your ground yes, but through sensible and logical decisions with proper training and situational awareness.

. The average irresponsible Trini, “law abiding” on paper and clean COC should not have easy access to legal firearms. Adhering to firearm laws is just the same as all other laws in T&T which the general population has grave difficulty to follow or simply, because of cultural traits. Breaking firearm laws increases the possibilities of life endangerment.

. “FUL for All” cannot happen overnight. The entire system needs to be relooked and adequate departments set up and expanded.
A backlog, which is one of the typical excuses will just cause further inconvenience and encourage processing fees. The TTPS and Forensics etc presently cannot handle a large increase in applications and the processing stages unless adequately staffed.

. We must set clear cut guidelines for FUL approvals and evaluate all applicants meticulously through proper evaluations and background checks.

. The daily law breaker, the wife beater, the ignorant, the litterer, the drunkard, the daily limer and the unemployed etc should not be issued an FUL.

. A suggestion is for the Govt to issue state owned firearms to those proven to be responsible/competent but unable to afford a firearm, but meets all the other criteria.

. With the increase in FUL approvals, it may be best to cap the amount of variations and ammunition allowed, or, specific criteria to allow same. If your property and your storage safe barely meets the requirements, it is not wise to have 5 and 10 units when you cannot secure it properly from unauthorized use and theft.

. There should be NO consumption of alcohol when in possession of a firearm, or more so, places that serve. If allyuh want FUL, go to work and then find your ass home to be there to protect your family.

. May we consider firearms for home use ONLY, similar to the hunter who has his shotgun at home but unable to personal carry. Again, there is no need to be out and about and flaunting….if you want FUL, again, find your ass home.

. Our irresponsible culture will make it bad for others.

. Fix the TTPS before mass FUL approvals, we gonna need them for the many situations to follow.


For your comments and corrections.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 4th, 2025, 10:28 am

Max, what is ur obsession with guns?

You sound like one of those white boys in the US who loves shooting up schools .


I think homeland security needs to take a look at you.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 4th, 2025, 10:50 am

Max write a thesis yes.
But some good points though

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 4th, 2025, 11:25 am

zoom rader wrote:Max, what is ur obsession with guns?

You sound like one of those white boys in the US who loves shooting up schools .


I think homeland security needs to take a look at you.



T&T is lawless and generally/overly irresponsible

Not good for a gun toting population.

My points have nothing to do with shooting up schools, nor has it leaned towards violence in anyway, you just being your usual bipolar ignorant self.

Focus on the goat herding na

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 4th, 2025, 11:26 am

alfa wrote:Max write a thesis yes.
But some good points though
I will make sure that does not even get a slinging shot.

Hes a homeland security issue

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby zoom rader » May 4th, 2025, 11:29 am

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Max, what is ur obsession with guns?

You sound like one of those white boys in the US who loves shooting up schools .


I think homeland security needs to take a look at you.



T&T is lawless and generally/overly irresponsible

Not good for a gun toting population.

My points have nothing to do with shooting up schools, nor has it leaned towards violence in anyway, you just being your usual bipolar ignorant self.

Focus on the goat herding na
Ur the one that keeps bringing up gun talk.

Ur not a responsible person to own a weapon.

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 4th, 2025, 11:33 am

who gonna be getting dealer license?
that is where the real strings yanking

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 4th, 2025, 12:09 pm

I wanna find out the process, try a thing

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby The_Honourable » May 4th, 2025, 1:54 pm

Firearm Applications "More Stringent, But Timely"

Minister of Homeland Security, Roger Alexander is promising a more rigorous process with regard to applications for Firearms Users Licenses (FULs).


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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby pugboy » May 4th, 2025, 2:17 pm

yuh need a physically safe looking place with vault and ting
they come and check that early then it’s the usual
we will call you when approved

alfa wrote:I wanna find out the process, try a thing

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby MaxPower » May 4th, 2025, 2:23 pm

pugboy wrote:yuh need a physically safe looking place with vault and ting
they come and check that early then it’s the usual
we will call you when approved

alfa wrote:I wanna find out the process, try a thing


Trinis cant even secure their pets and premises properly and want FUL?

I wonder if galvanize fence and aluminum sheet safe that bolt on some ply will qualify.

Call you when approved or pay the processing fee.

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Postby MaxPower » May 4th, 2025, 2:35 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Firearm Applications "More Stringent, But Timely"

Minister of Homeland Security, Roger Alexander is promising a more rigorous process with regard to applications for Firearms Users Licenses (FULs).



“More Stringent”
“May change one or two of the requirements”

The requirements were not stringent enough?

Forms
COC
Psychiatric Evaluation
Medical (Fitness Assessment/Eye Exam)
Letter from Spouse as applicable
Home/Site visit

Changing requirements would more than likely mean adding to and not subtracting…so this sounding like some restrictions that not the very average person may qualify?

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Re: the right to bear arms

Postby alfa » May 4th, 2025, 2:50 pm

MaxPower wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:Firearm Applications "More Stringent, But Timely"

Minister of Homeland Security, Roger Alexander is promising a more rigorous process with regard to applications for Firearms Users Licenses (FULs).



“More Stringent”
“May change one or two of the requirements”

The requirements were not stringent enough?

Forms
COC
Psychiatric Evaluation
Medical (Fitness Assessment/Eye Exam)
Letter from Spouse as applicable
Home/Site visit

Changing requirements would more than likely mean adding to and not subtracting…so this sounding like some restrictions that not the very average person may qualify?

The average applicant can obtain all of the above unless you're a crippled psycho wife don't like you.
They may and they should tighten up on the certificate of competence requirements as some place just ask you to load, offload and not even fire.
Bam certificate

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