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US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby hover11 » March 11th, 2025, 6:20 am

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If Rubio start cancelling visas, this Rowley fella going to go down in history with infamy from all sides. He is making Chambers legacy look appealing.

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I was in Cuba about 15 years ago and spoke to a Cuban guy about the Cuban doctor and nurse program. In short it is just another form of modern day slavery. God bless Trump for putting a stop to that exploitation of people.

Time for Cuba to get out of the dark ages and ditch that Communism BS.

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Gladiator wrote:I was in Cuba about 15 years ago and spoke to a Cuban guy about the Cuban doctor and nurse program. In short it is just another form of modern day slavery. God bless Trump for putting a stop to that exploitation of people.

Time for Cuba to get out of the dark ages and ditch that Communism BS.

Is it really worth it though?
The price of progress is weighing heavily on the rest of the world.

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Gladiator wrote:I was in Cuba about 15 years ago and spoke to a Cuban guy about the Cuban doctor and nurse program. In short it is just another form of modern day slavery. God bless Trump for putting a stop to that exploitation of people.

Time for Cuba to get out of the dark ages and ditch that Communism BS.

If you doing something for nearly 70 years, and you still not getting the result you want, how long yuh think yuh go hadda do it before you figure it out that what you want and way you want to get it just not going to happen ?

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BDYVGpwEu/?mibextid=xfxF2i

Look "dai leader! Mia"

But Keith getting cuss from dem sellout trinis for saying the same thing.

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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mero wrote:https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BDYVGpwEu/?mibextid=xfxF2i

Look "dai leader! Mia"

But Keith getting cuss from dem sellout trinis for saying the same thing.
Keith could never step in MIA shoes not even for a minute ....he is not a leader. Face it. He is narcissistic tyrant

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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sellout trinis want to keep they visay

doh want to sacrifice for dey comrades

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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paid_influencer wrote:sellout trinis want to keep they visay

doh want to sacrifice for dey comrades


Same Trinis also gonna boast when they go UK….. that will be the new flex #UKvisa #Approved

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby The_Honourable » March 13th, 2025, 9:26 pm

Who sacrificing dey visa for rowley?

look...

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby zoom rader » March 14th, 2025, 11:34 am

The_Honourable wrote:Who sacrificing dey visa for rowley?

look...
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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby The_Honourable » March 14th, 2025, 1:20 pm

Human Rights Foundation claims exploitation of Cuban medical workers

ALTHOUGH currently in the spotlight owing to a new US policy which threatens to terminate the visas of government officials for hosting Cuban medical missions, the programme has been flagged by several non-governmental organisations and human rights groups in the past for repressive rules and forced labour.

One such group is the New York-based Human Rights Foundation (HRF) which published a report in 2022.

The report found Cuba's medical missions violated several of the practitioners' rights including privacy, freedom of expression, freedom of association, and freedom of movement.

As evidence, the report cited from the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Trade and Investment's Disciplinary Regulations for Cuban Civilian Workers Serving Abroad as Collaborators (Resolution No 168).

According to the regulations, while workers were on a mission they were prohibited from forming relationships with people whose actions were contrary to the principles of Cuban society, have links to people who have contrary views of the Cuban revolution, living with unauthorised people, having romantic relationships unless reported to supervisors, travel to areas outside of where they are assigned to work among.

"Cuba clearly designed Resolution No168's restrictions on mobility to prevent doctors from having the means and the opportunity to 'desert' the medical missions. Cuban handlers and local collaborators further ensure doctors' compliance by subjecting them to constant surveillance, forcing them to spy on their own colleagues and inform Cuban authorities of any intentions their co-workers might have to 'abandon' the mission.

"As an added measure to prevent desertions, the Cuban government issues medical workers a special passport that precludes them from travelling anywhere but Cuba and their assigned host country. Cuban supervisors often retain doctors' passports upon their arrival in the host country."

The report said with Cuba's healthcare system run entirely by the government, medical practitioners feel pressured to go on missions to advance their careers or avoid losing their jobs. It said Cuban doctors also needed to have special permission to leave the country and did not provide academic qualifications to the doctors so they could get jobs outside of the country.

"This tactic renders Cuban doctors unable to demonstrate their qualifications to practice outside Cuba. As a result, their only option to work overseas is through the government's medical missions."

It said doctors also received a salary of around US$70 to US$75 per month which the foundation said was not enough to live off of, further pushing them toward medical missions to earn a liveable wage.

The report said the medical missions were Cuba's largest source of foreign income, earning an average of between US$6 billion to US$8 billion annually. The report said at least 75 per cent of the fees paid to doctors go to the Cuban government with the workers receiving between nine to 25 per cent.

The HRF argued that host countries were obligated to block the Cuban laws from being applied to medical workers in their country owing to several treaties.

"It is important to note that it is an accepted principle of international law that treaties apply to all individuals within a state's jurisdiction, including non-citizens. As such, we can argue that host countries also have human rights obligations to all individuals living in their territory, including Cuban medical workers. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which most host countries have ratified, protects the rights to freedom of expression and association, liberty, and movement.

"The International Covenant on Economic and Social Rights which recognises the right to just and favourable conditions of work and to an adequate standard of living, enjoys almost universal ratification.

"Equally important, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights contains freedom-of-speech and movement protections, including the right of all individuals "to leave any country" and to return to their birth country. As a result, host countries have an international law obligation to prohibit Resolution No 168 from taking place in their territories, ensuring effective anti-trafficking and human rights protections for Cuban doctors."

Other organisations flagging the programme include Human Rights International in 2020 and on January 20 by the US Office to Monitor the Trafficking in Persons.

The programme has once again come under scrutiny as the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced on February 25 the expansion of an existing Cuba-related visa restriction policy that targets forced labour linked to the Cuban labour export programme. In it, he threatened to revoke the visas of government officials whose countries are recipients of Cuba's medical missions and their immediate relatives.

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/03/13/human- ... l-workers/

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby Gladiator » March 14th, 2025, 1:44 pm

As I said...modern day slavery. Mia Mottley and Rowley are a bag of sheit to support it. God Bless Trump

The_Honourable wrote:Human Rights Foundation claims exploitation of Cuban medical workers

ALTHOUGH currently in the spotlight owing to a new US policy which threatens to terminate the visas of government officials for hosting Cuban medical missions, the programme has been flagged by several non-governmental organisations and human rights groups in the past for repressive rules and forced labour.

One such group is the New York-based Human Rights Foundation (HRF) which published a report in 2022.

The report found Cuba's medical missions violated several of the practitioners' rights including privacy, freedom of expression, freedom of association, and freedom of movement.

As evidence, the report cited from the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Trade and Investment's Disciplinary Regulations for Cuban Civilian Workers Serving Abroad as Collaborators (Resolution No 168).

According to the regulations, while workers were on a mission they were prohibited from forming relationships with people whose actions were contrary to the principles of Cuban society, have links to people who have contrary views of the Cuban revolution, living with unauthorised people, having romantic relationships unless reported to supervisors, travel to areas outside of where they are assigned to work among.

"Cuba clearly designed Resolution No168's restrictions on mobility to prevent doctors from having the means and the opportunity to 'desert' the medical missions. Cuban handlers and local collaborators further ensure doctors' compliance by subjecting them to constant surveillance, forcing them to spy on their own colleagues and inform Cuban authorities of any intentions their co-workers might have to 'abandon' the mission.

"As an added measure to prevent desertions, the Cuban government issues medical workers a special passport that precludes them from travelling anywhere but Cuba and their assigned host country. Cuban supervisors often retain doctors' passports upon their arrival in the host country."

The report said with Cuba's healthcare system run entirely by the government, medical practitioners feel pressured to go on missions to advance their careers or avoid losing their jobs. It said Cuban doctors also needed to have special permission to leave the country and did not provide academic qualifications to the doctors so they could get jobs outside of the country.

"This tactic renders Cuban doctors unable to demonstrate their qualifications to practice outside Cuba. As a result, their only option to work overseas is through the government's medical missions."

It said doctors also received a salary of around US$70 to US$75 per month which the foundation said was not enough to live off of, further pushing them toward medical missions to earn a liveable wage.

The report said the medical missions were Cuba's largest source of foreign income, earning an average of between US$6 billion to US$8 billion annually. The report said at least 75 per cent of the fees paid to doctors go to the Cuban government with the workers receiving between nine to 25 per cent.

The HRF argued that host countries were obligated to block the Cuban laws from being applied to medical workers in their country owing to several treaties.

"It is important to note that it is an accepted principle of international law that treaties apply to all individuals within a state's jurisdiction, including non-citizens. As such, we can argue that host countries also have human rights obligations to all individuals living in their territory, including Cuban medical workers. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which most host countries have ratified, protects the rights to freedom of expression and association, liberty, and movement.

"The International Covenant on Economic and Social Rights which recognises the right to just and favourable conditions of work and to an adequate standard of living, enjoys almost universal ratification.

"Equally important, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights contains freedom-of-speech and movement protections, including the right of all individuals "to leave any country" and to return to their birth country. As a result, host countries have an international law obligation to prohibit Resolution No 168 from taking place in their territories, ensuring effective anti-trafficking and human rights protections for Cuban doctors."

Other organisations flagging the programme include Human Rights International in 2020 and on January 20 by the US Office to Monitor the Trafficking in Persons.

The programme has once again come under scrutiny as the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced on February 25 the expansion of an existing Cuba-related visa restriction policy that targets forced labour linked to the Cuban labour export programme. In it, he threatened to revoke the visas of government officials whose countries are recipients of Cuba's medical missions and their immediate relatives.

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/03/13/human- ... l-workers/

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby The_Honourable » March 14th, 2025, 4:21 pm

Gladiator wrote:As I said...modern day slavery. Mia Mottley and Rowley are a bag of sheit to support it. God Bless Trump


The anti-US fist pumping crew behind a keyboard will bawl propaganda

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby paid_influencer » March 14th, 2025, 6:27 pm

it is clearly propaganda tho

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propaganda doesn't necessarily have to be wrong

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i also feel exploited by my job

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paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby sMASH » March 14th, 2025, 7:18 pm

The_Honourable wrote:Human Rights Foundation claims exploitation of Cuban medical workers

ALTHOUGH currently in the spotlight owing to a new US policy which threatens to terminate the visas of government officials for hosting Cuban medical missions, the programme has been flagged by several non-governmental organisations and human rights groups in the past for repressive rules and forced labour.

One such group is the New York-based Human Rights Foundation (HRF) which published a report in 2022.

The report found Cuba's medical missions violated several of the practitioners' rights including privacy, freedom of expression, freedom of association, and freedom of movement.

As evidence, the report cited from the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Trade and Investment's Disciplinary Regulations for Cuban Civilian Workers Serving Abroad as Collaborators (Resolution No 168).

According to the regulations, while workers were on a mission they were prohibited from forming relationships with people whose actions were contrary to the principles of Cuban society, have links to people who have contrary views of the Cuban revolution, living with unauthorised people, having romantic relationships unless reported to supervisors, travel to areas outside of where they are assigned to work among.

"Cuba clearly designed Resolution No168's restrictions on mobility to prevent doctors from having the means and the opportunity to 'desert' the medical missions. Cuban handlers and local collaborators further ensure doctors' compliance by subjecting them to constant surveillance, forcing them to spy on their own colleagues and inform Cuban authorities of any intentions their co-workers might have to 'abandon' the mission.

"As an added measure to prevent desertions, the Cuban government issues medical workers a special passport that precludes them from travelling anywhere but Cuba and their assigned host country. Cuban supervisors often retain doctors' passports upon their arrival in the host country."

The report said with Cuba's healthcare system run entirely by the government, medical practitioners feel pressured to go on missions to advance their careers or avoid losing their jobs. It said Cuban doctors also needed to have special permission to leave the country and did not provide academic qualifications to the doctors so they could get jobs outside of the country.

"This tactic renders Cuban doctors unable to demonstrate their qualifications to practice outside Cuba. As a result, their only option to work overseas is through the government's medical missions."

It said doctors also received a salary of around US$70 to US$75 per month which the foundation said was not enough to live off of, further pushing them toward medical missions to earn a liveable wage.

The report said the medical missions were Cuba's largest source of foreign income, earning an average of between US$6 billion to US$8 billion annually. The report said at least 75 per cent of the fees paid to doctors go to the Cuban government with the workers receiving between nine to 25 per cent.

The HRF argued that host countries were obligated to block the Cuban laws from being applied to medical workers in their country owing to several treaties.

"It is important to note that it is an accepted principle of international law that treaties apply to all individuals within a state's jurisdiction, including non-citizens. As such, we can argue that host countries also have human rights obligations to all individuals living in their territory, including Cuban medical workers. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which most host countries have ratified, protects the rights to freedom of expression and association, liberty, and movement.

"The International Covenant on Economic and Social Rights which recognises the right to just and favourable conditions of work and to an adequate standard of living, enjoys almost universal ratification.

"Equally important, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights contains freedom-of-speech and movement protections, including the right of all individuals "to leave any country" and to return to their birth country. As a result, host countries have an international law obligation to prohibit Resolution No 168 from taking place in their territories, ensuring effective anti-trafficking and human rights protections for Cuban doctors."

Other organisations flagging the programme include Human Rights International in 2020 and on January 20 by the US Office to Monitor the Trafficking in Persons.

The programme has once again come under scrutiny as the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced on February 25 the expansion of an existing Cuba-related visa restriction policy that targets forced labour linked to the Cuban labour export programme. In it, he threatened to revoke the visas of government officials whose countries are recipients of Cuba's medical missions and their immediate relatives.

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/03/13/human- ... l-workers/
Remove us sanctions and see how much exploited they get.

US propaganda.

I Remeber for covid they volunteered to go to other parts of the world and render assistance .

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Unlike the Cubans You're not working for a dictatorship. Why don't you leave it?

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

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Dizzy28 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Unlike the Cubans You're not working for a dictatorship. Why don't you leave it?
It's a pseudo dictatorship ....virtually no opposition.

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Postby Gladiator » March 14th, 2025, 9:06 pm

paid_influencer wrote:it is clearly propaganda tho


It isn't propaganda. I actually spent a lot of time in Cuba and spoke to the people there. I saw the suffering first hand and got details of these Cuban "programs".

The communist Cuban government is the reason for their demise. This medical human trade is no different that indentureship or slavery. It needs to be stopped. The Caribbean leaders that supporting it playing schupid and of course the ones that like to hear them howl just like to swallow the feces they throw at them.

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Postby The_Honourable » March 14th, 2025, 9:32 pm

sMASH wrote:Remove us sanctions and see how much exploited they get.

US propaganda.

I Remeber for covid they volunteered to go to other parts of the world and render assistance .


So are they exploited now?

The cuban doctors themselves are not the problem, the exploitative programme is.

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby paid_influencer » March 14th, 2025, 9:36 pm

To be fair, Caribbean leaders are supporting it for the benefit of their people.

As Mia said, this program has saved many Bajan lives and she is responsible for Bajan lives.

The cuban medical program has saved lives here on this island as well and I say for a fact that these Cuban doctors have trained Trinidadian medical doctors when specialists were in short supply.

If the USA or the UK were willing to institute a similar program for us here, I wouldn't mind.

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Postby paid_influencer » March 14th, 2025, 9:41 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
sMASH wrote:Remove us sanctions and see how much exploited they get.

US propaganda.

I Remeber for covid they volunteered to go to other parts of the world and render assistance .


So are they exploited now?

The cuban doctors themselves are not the problem, the exploitative programme is.


I would say the propaganda piece gives a one-sided interpretation of the situation. They cubans have a different social contract which was not considered at all.

After these doctors complete their program here, do they get a pension? free healthcare? free education?

Do their children get that? Their elderly? Is there a social safety net that is supported by the work that they have put in?

The social contract is completely different, is all I'm saying.

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Dizzy28 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Unlike the Cubans You're not working for a dictatorship. Why don't you leave it?


no ambition probably.
sufferers dont like to work so they stick with jobs where they dont do much work. when they do get work to do, they complain.

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby 88sins » March 15th, 2025, 2:17 pm

They need to crack down on electing mindless felonious unscrupulous orange idiots to their highest government office :lol:

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby hover11 » March 15th, 2025, 2:31 pm

st7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Unlike the Cubans You're not working for a dictatorship. Why don't you leave it?


no ambition probably.
sufferers dont like to work so they stick with jobs where they dont do much work. when they do get work to do, they complain.
Says the guy that works from home and probably doesn't leave his home unless he has to.....that's the laziest thing ever

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Re: US crackdown on Cuban medics in the Caribbean

Postby Dizzy28 » March 15th, 2025, 4:00 pm

hover11 wrote:
st7 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
hover11 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:i also feel exploited by my job
Same

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Unlike the Cubans You're not working for a dictatorship. Why don't you leave it?


no ambition probably.
sufferers dont like to work so they stick with jobs where they dont do much work. when they do get work to do, they complain.
Says the guy that works from home and probably doesn't leave his home unless he has to.....that's the laziest thing ever

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On a reals though. You can't be mentally ok if you stuck in a bad situation you have control to change and you refusing to.

That's mad people thing

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