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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby adnj » June 24th, 2023, 12:21 pm

Biden administration releases intelligence on Wuhan lab

The 10-page document reveals no proof of either a lab leak or an animal host.

American intelligence agencies don’t know how the Covid-19 pandemic started, declassified intelligence says.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence in a report released today said that all agencies of the government “continue to assess that both a natural and laboratory-associated origin remain plausible hypotheses to explain the first human infection.”

The report acknowledges that researchers at China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology, where scientists conducted coronavirus research in the city where Covid first emerged, fell ill in the fall of 2019, shortly before the pandemic began.

The Wall Street Journal, confirming reporting by journalists at the Substack blog Public, reported last week that one of the sick researchers, Ben Hu, had worked on coronaviruses with U.S. funding.

Advocates of the lab leak theory seized on the news as near-definitive proof that their hypothesis was correct.

But the intelligence report says it’s not so certain.

While several Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers “fell mildly ill in Fall 2019,” the report acknowledges, “they experienced a range of symptoms consistent with colds or allergies with accompanying symptoms typically not associated with COVID-19, and some of them were confirmed to have been sick with other illnesses unrelated to COVID-19.”

The report does confirm that the Wuhan lab did not always adhere to safety protocols in studying coronaviruses.

The intelligence agencies also say that institute researchers have genetically engineered coronaviruses, but the agencies do not have information showing the researchers worked on the strain that led to the pandemic.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/2 ... b-00103523

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby The_Honourable » July 22nd, 2023, 10:24 pm

Scientists Kristian Andersen and Robert Garry recently appeared at a Congressional hearing to testify about their flip-flop in 2020 from supporting the so-called lab leak theory of COVID’s origin to authoring a paper titled, “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2,” which stated the virus likely originated from nature. GOP Congresswoman Nicole Malliotakis grilled the two about their inconsistency on the issue.




“The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” was released in early 2020 and strongly concluded that it was unlikely that SARS-CoV-2 emerged as a lab leak, but the Slack messages of the author of the paper show a different story.


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Re: Covid-19'S Origin. Natural Or Lab Made?

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Re: Covid-19'S Origin. Natural Or Lab Made?

Postby paid_influencer » January 27th, 2024, 3:21 pm

redmanjp wrote:Strongest evidence that Covid came from a lab

https://www.city-journal.org/article/new-documents-bolster-lab-leak-hypothesis/


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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby The_Honourable » March 12th, 2025, 1:53 pm

COVID pandemic likely unleashed by lab mishap: Germany's BND

Germany's spy agency thinks an accident in a Chinese lab likely led to the COVID-19 pandemic, media say. Evidence it collected allegedly indicates negligence at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Germany's foreign intelligence service, the BND, concluded that the outbreak of the worldwide coronavirus pandemic in 2020 could well have been triggered by an accident at a Chinese laboratory that does virus research, German media reported on Wednesday.

The pandemic caused the death of millions of people across the world from the respiratory illness COVID-19, while fallout from the catastrophe continues to dog global economies and drive social tensions.

Alleged risky virus research methods in Wuhan

According to reports in the German papers Süddeutsche Zeitung and Zeit, the BND based its conclusion on the analysis of material from the public domain and that it collected in the course of an investigation with the code name "Saaremaa."

The material, some of which came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, located in the Chinese city where the pandemic is believed to have started, indicated that there had been some risky research methods used there, compounded by breaches of laboratory safety rules, the reports said.

The papers said there was evidence that Wuhan researchers carried out so-called gain-of-function experiments, in which viruses occurring in nature are manipulated. Such research can cause changes in the way a virus causes illness, its transmissibility and the types of hosts it can infect.

There were also indications that there had been numerous violations of safety regulations at the lab,according to the reports.

The BND reached its conclusions as early as 2020, the papers said, giving them a likelihood rating of 80% to 95%, but the assessment was kept from the public at the time.

What does China say about COVID's origins?

China has always denied that the Wuhan lab was responsible for the outbreak.

However, in January, the US secret service, the CIA, said it was also of the opinion that the coronavirus behind the pandemic, named SARS-CoV-2, likely came from a laboratory, although it cautioned that it had "low confidence" in the finding.

The FBI also made a similar statement in March 2023.

Other theories that have been put forward is that the pandemic first broke out in 2019 in a market selling meat from wild animals in Wuhan.

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-pandemic-li ... a-71897701

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby redmanjp » March 12th, 2025, 9:30 pm

they knew since 2020 but censorship was the name of the game so they kept quiet

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covid.gov

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Re: Covid-19's origin. natural or lab made?

Postby redmanjp » May 28th, 2025, 12:16 pm

That 'proximal origins' paper which points to natural spillover needs to be retracted -so many other papers, scientists have been citing it when more & more evidence points to a lab leak and cover up. and it's not just US agencies anymore so u can't say it's political- and then u have the secret emails between fauci and others saying it's looks engineered?

Even if we are still not 100% sure of the lab leak, u have to admit we are also not 100% sure, or at this stage even 50% sure it came from nature- there is usually spillover to various animals before humans (like what's going on with bird blu now) but that didn't happen with covid. the virus also has something in it which is not observed in coronaviruses, unless it's intentionally inserted.

and the 1st outbreak happened within a few miles of a virology lab studying coronaviruses?

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