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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby xtech » March 3rd, 2025, 8:38 pm

Trump pulls military aid.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby The_Honourable » March 3rd, 2025, 9:50 pm

US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » March 3rd, 2025, 10:45 pm

The_Honourable wrote:US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/
The invaded country has to show a commitment to peace?

Funny how Musk, Vance and Trump barely makes mention of Putin in all this brouhaha

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 4th, 2025, 12:46 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/
The invaded country has to show a commitment to peace?

Funny how Musk, Vance and Trump barely makes mention of Putin in all this brouhaha

Crazy huh?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby hover11 » March 4th, 2025, 4:02 am

Man going all over to beg yes
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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hover11 wrote:Man going all over to beg yesFB_IMG_1741075071276.jpg

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Candace Owens, really?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » March 4th, 2025, 6:13 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/
The invaded country has to show a commitment to peace?

Funny how Musk, Vance and Trump barely makes mention of Putin in all this brouhaha

Crazy huh?
Ukraine's existence is not predicated on the non existence of Russia.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby xtech » March 4th, 2025, 9:57 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/
The invaded country has to show a commitment to peace?

Funny how Musk, Vance and Trump barely makes mention of Putin in all this brouhaha

Crazy huh?
Ukraine's existence is not predicated on the non existence of Russia.


Trump wants to be president for life so he needs to keep making similar minded allies happy so if things go south they will come to help him make this happen. Or have a place to run to escape prison.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » March 4th, 2025, 10:59 am

Trump is a genius.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » March 4th, 2025, 11:00 am

SuperiorMan wrote:Trump is a genius.


A stable genius.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby The_Honourable » March 4th, 2025, 12:08 pm

Zelensky could go around the world begging for more money and weapons all he wants to prolong the war and hope for a victory. European leaders could rally behind and continue to help him, but just like the US population, their population are getting fed up of money being sent to Ukraine to fund a war that is nowhere close to winning.

Russia invaded Ukraine, and you can "stand with ukraine" on social media all you want but the reality is they not winning the war.

Trump is right, Zelensky is not in a good position and doesn't have the cards.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby hover11 » March 4th, 2025, 12:48 pm

BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky calls disastrous Trump meeting "regrettable" and says he is ready to negotiate peace, after US halts military aid to Kyiv.

Follow live updates: https://cnn.it/3QKc1JN

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby hover11 » March 4th, 2025, 12:49 pm

Bro really thought his country was still surviving this war because of his leadership and not because of the billions of dollars sent to them by the American citizens.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 4th, 2025, 12:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:US pauses military aid to Ukraine, says White House

WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - The United States is pausing military aid to Ukraine days after U.S. President Donald Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in the Oval Office, a White House official confirmed on Monday.

The official said the U.S. is pausing and reviewing aid to ensure it is contributing to a solution.

The pause will last until Trump determines the country's leaders demonstrate a good-faith commitment to peace, according to Bloomberg and Fox News reports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us ... 025-03-04/
The invaded country has to show a commitment to peace?

Funny how Musk, Vance and Trump barely makes mention of Putin in all this brouhaha

Crazy huh?
Ukraine's existence is not predicated on the non existence of Russia.

No one says Russia does not have to exist - just not inside of Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » March 4th, 2025, 2:22 pm

Cantmis wrote:https://youtu.be/s1s43dx9y8Y?si=j_o2LZOXJ33pIzK5
Elenski prolly does dream he is like that on his cocaine benders. He prolly missing hunter biden last few years

Elenski was a comedian junkie western puppet getting rich off of the US proxy war on Russia , and fighting tooth and nail to keep the gravy train running , by further crashing his country

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby The_Honourable » March 4th, 2025, 3:36 pm

Took him less than 24 hrs after Trump pauses aid, Zelensky caves in...

"I would like to reiterate Ukraine’s commitment to peace.

None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same. Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive.

Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively."

https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa

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Ukraine Russia War

Postby MaxPower » March 4th, 2025, 3:52 pm

Well played by the US President.

I may not agree with how things were done….but it’s clear who has the cards.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby DMan7 » March 4th, 2025, 4:00 pm

How is the country who is being invaded the one to talk about peace and ending the war? Shouldn't it be the invaders that should be the ones to do so? This makes no sense.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 4th, 2025, 5:02 pm

MaxPower wrote:Well played by the US President.

"Well played" by definition means skillfully or pleasingly executed.
This is neither. This is just strong-arming.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » March 4th, 2025, 5:45 pm

DMan7 wrote:How is the country who is being invaded the one to talk about peace and ending the war? Shouldn't it be the invaders that should be the ones to do so? This makes no sense.

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Makes no sense if u think Russia invaded Ukraine because it has imperialist goals and Ukraine was defending European democracy.

If Ukraine was that important or Russia was that evil, they should have admitted Ukraine into nato under special circumstances and acted ...
This war was an act to embezzle money in arms deals,

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby The_Honourable » March 4th, 2025, 6:16 pm

Within the next few hours?

Exclusive: US, Ukraine now plan to sign minerals deal, sources say

NEW YORK, March 4 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's administration and Ukraine plan to sign a minerals deal that fell through after a disastrous Oval Office meeting Friday in which Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was dismissed from the building, four people familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.

President Donald Trump has told his advisers that he wants to announce the agreement in his address to Congress on Tuesday evening, three of the sources said, cautioning that the deal had yet to be signed and the situation could change.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-ukrain ... 025-03-04/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 4th, 2025, 7:06 pm

Did Trump say what the plan was once the deal is signed with Ukraine?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » March 4th, 2025, 7:53 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Did Trump say what the plan was once the deal is signed with Ukraine?
Probably hit Russia with Tariffs

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby The_Honourable » March 4th, 2025, 8:22 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Did Trump say what the plan was once the deal is signed with Ukraine?
Probably hit Russia with Tariffs



1. Minerals Deal - US gets money back and has economic interests in Ukraine's sovereignty

2. Ceasefire - US diplomacy encouraging both sides to stop fighting in order to allow discussions about peace

3. Peaceful Settlement - Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine to bring war to a close

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » March 4th, 2025, 10:27 pm

probably an exit that is more graceful than vietnam or afganistan

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » March 4th, 2025, 10:28 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Did Trump say what the plan was once the deal is signed with Ukraine?
Probably hit Russia with Tariffs

lol

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby paid_influencer » March 4th, 2025, 10:37 pm

i read rt because it loads better on my old devices than cnn and from what i can tell russian has consistently been trying to come to some conclusion but the ukrianian leader literally banned any negotiations with russia and also he is beyond due for election so any agreement he signs would be of questionable legitimancy. also that particular even-war wanting president doesn't want elections until after the war which he wants to go on for a long time

https://www.rt.com/russia/611672-zelens ... ks-moscow/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby MaxPower » March 4th, 2025, 10:42 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Well played by the US President.

"Well played" by definition means skillfully or pleasingly executed.
This is neither. This is just strong-arming.


By saying Well played i was referring to Trump being the one holding the cards.

But i agree.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby xtech » March 4th, 2025, 10:47 pm

sMASH wrote:
DMan7 wrote:How is the country who is being invaded the one to talk about peace and ending the war? Shouldn't it be the invaders that should be the ones to do so? This makes no sense.

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Makes no sense if u think Russia invaded Ukraine because it has imperialist goals and Ukraine was defending European democracy.

If Ukraine was that important or Russia was that evil, they should have admitted Ukraine into nato under special circumstances and acted ...
This war was an act to embezzle money in arms deals,


They had a rule to not add a
Country to nato while it was at war which would automatically drag All of nato into a war. Should have been a member before it all began so Russians would think twice and three times before invading

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