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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 6th, 2025, 8:25 pm

Bloggers now saying jordan is building up its forces along the Israeli border.
Egypt in the last few weeks had sent tank divisions on the Egypt side of raffa.

Iran after signing the defense deals with russia has been advertising it's arsenal.

Turkey , uae etc have been talking at lenght with al golani the new Syrian president . That with info that hesbolah re established supply routes most likely still through Syria , means things are gearing up for when Israel breaks the ceasefire .

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 6th, 2025, 8:30 pm

Real Jews oppose a state of Israel

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the estab­lishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legiti­macy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 6:06 am

The micro aggression violations of the ceasefire in the south of Lebanon wasn't enough to trigger hesbolah , so they do a hard slap to see if they can trigger them ...guess the pager stunt was a one off.

Hesbolah already said , it's up to the official army to do the work. They will step in if the actual army not doing the work.

I hoping the official army pull a Syria and run away so hesbolah is the official army.


Isreal and thier defenders are just immature juvenile greedy little brats
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2025, 7:05 am

sMASH wrote:Bloggers now saying jordan is building up its forces along the Israeli border.
Egypt in the last few weeks had sent tank divisions on the Egypt side of raffa.

Iran after signing the defense deals with russia has been advertising it's arsenal.

Turkey , uae etc have been talking at lenght with al golani the new Syrian president . That with info that hesbolah re established supply routes most likely still through Syria , means things are gearing up for when Israel breaks the ceasefire .


Hahahaha!!!

This post best encapsulates your lack of understanding of the actual realities on the ground in the ME. During the height of the recent conflict Turkey was covertly shipping Azeri oil to Israel..Erdogan literally fuelled the Israeli Air Force.

And if you really think Al Maktoum is against Israel as well you even more deluded than you think.

Jordan and Egypt's moves are solely to keep any potential Palestinian migration at bay because just like the entire Arab World nobody wants them.

Your wet dream of the Ummah around Israel doing something will remain just that.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 7:44 am

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2025, 9:10 am

zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 9:51 am

timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » February 7th, 2025, 10:05 am

timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.

To be honest, women, mainly Muslim women are facing the greatest persecution in Afghanistan

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2025, 10:08 am

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2025, 10:29 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2025, 10:32 am

alfa wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.

To be honest, women, mainly Muslim women are facing the greatest persecution in Afghanistan

They like it so.
Bring them out to the West and they bringing all their bad ways with them.Same with Indians

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 10:54 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Bloggers now saying jordan is building up its forces along the Israeli border.
Egypt in the last few weeks had sent tank divisions on the Egypt side of raffa.

Iran after signing the defense deals with russia has been advertising it's arsenal.

Turkey , uae etc have been talking at lenght with al golani the new Syrian president . That with info that hesbolah re established supply routes most likely still through Syria , means things are gearing up for when Israel breaks the ceasefire .


Hahahaha!!!

This post best encapsulates your lack of understanding of the actual realities on the ground in the ME. During the height of the recent conflict Turkey was covertly shipping Azeri oil to Israel..Erdogan literally fuelled the Israeli Air Force.

And if you really think Al Maktoum is against Israel as well you even more deluded than you think.

Jordan and Egypt's moves are solely to keep any potential Palestinian migration at bay because just like the entire Arab World nobody wants them.

Your wet dream of the Ummah around Israel doing something will remain just that.
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I posted that since a year ago .
Assad used to tske hostages from the cia to torture them in his jails .
Assad is Christian .
Al jolani is hts which was alnussra ,which was sister to isis as split offs from alqaeda , the group that usa advertise was responsible for 9/11. And they are the reson for they being In Syria , to hunt the perpetrators of 9/11

Now that al golani throw out Assad, usa remove the 25m bounty for him and are now funding them. Even finally pulling out troops and leaving them in charge.


Hesbolah and Iran is Shia and hamas is sunni with the other groups in gaza being Christian and secular , but collectively the world calls them hamas for simplicity.


Even tho Assad was Christian, Syria was as valuable route for the Shia in Lebanon to get supplies to support hamas collective .

Its not simple

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 10:59 am

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
To clarify , what is the 'what' that we missing since we only focusing on the 'who'?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » February 7th, 2025, 11:15 am

timelapse wrote:
alfa wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.

To be honest, women, mainly Muslim women are facing the greatest persecution in Afghanistan

They like it so.
Bring them out to the West and they bringing all their bad ways with them.Same with Indians



Which Indians?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » February 7th, 2025, 11:20 am

They need to take a chill pill and pray or something. Ramadan is next month. Cleanse the bad thoughts

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

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Isreal bombs a hospital in Lebanon.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 11:38 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Really?

Christians flee into forest after Hindu mobs vandalize their homes, churches for refusing to re-convert

https://www.christianpost.com/news/indi ... nvert.html

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 11:40 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Son, I don't hate European Jews

Zionists are not Jews

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 11:52 am

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
Did u not read what I wrote, or are u just stupid like Dizzy28 ?

I gave examples that all regions have faults and extremists within their religion.

To defend any one religion over the other is showing bias.

Christians are the most evil religion that exists .


1. The Crusades (1096–1291) – Estimates vary, but scholars suggest deaths could range from 1 to 3 million, including Muslims, Jews, and Christians.


2. The Inquisition (12th–19th century) – Tens of thousands were executed, with some estimates suggesting around 100,000 deaths over centuries.


3. European Wars of Religion (16th–17th century) – Conflicts like the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648) led to 4–8 million deaths.


4. Colonial Conquests & Forced Conversions (15th–20th century) – Millions of Indigenous people in the Americas, Africa, and Asia died due to violence, enslavement, and disease following European Christian colonization.


5. Witch Hunts (15th–18th century) – Between 40,000 and 60,000 people, mostly women, were executed as "witches."


6. Christian-Native American Conflicts – Millions of Indigenous people perished in North and South America due to violence and policies carried out under Christian colonial rule.

7. 30milion Chinese have been killed by so-called Christians. The Taiping wars

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Human Rights Watch group: ICC sanctions put the US ‘on the side of war criminals’

US government sanctions targeting the International Criminal Court will undermine international accountability for the worst crimes and deprive victims around the globe of justice, Human Rights Watch has said.

The group added that an executive order issued by Trump on Thursday, which authorises asset freezes and entry bans on ICC officials and others supporting the court’s work, makes clear that the Trump administration “seeks to shield US and Israeli officials from facing war crimes and crimes against humanity charges”.

“Trump’s executive order on the International Criminal Court effectively puts the United States on the side of war criminals at the expense of victims of grave crimes seeking justice,” Liz Evenson, the group’s international justice director, said in a statement.

“ICC member countries should publicly and forcefully support the court for doing the job it was set up to do: ensuring no one is above the law.”

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2025, 12:52 pm

zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
Did u not read what I wrote, or are u just stupid like Dizzy28 ?

I gave examples that all regions have faults and extremists within their religion.

To defend any one religion over the other is showing bias.

Christians are the most evil religion that exists .


1. The Crusades (1096–1291) – Estimates vary, but scholars suggest deaths could range from 1 to 3 million, including Muslims, Jews, and Christians.


2. The Inquisition (12th–19th century) – Tens of thousands were executed, with some estimates suggesting around 100,000 deaths over centuries.


3. European Wars of Religion (16th–17th century) – Conflicts like the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648) led to 4–8 million deaths.


4. Colonial Conquests & Forced Conversions (15th–20th century) – Millions of Indigenous people in the Americas, Africa, and Asia died due to violence, enslavement, and disease following European Christian colonization.


5. Witch Hunts (15th–18th century) – Between 40,000 and 60,000 people, mostly women, were executed as "witches."


6. Christian-Native American Conflicts – Millions of Indigenous people perished in North and South America due to violence and policies carried out under Christian colonial rule.

7. 30milion Chinese have been killed by so-called Christians. The Taiping wars


All this, but somehow Palestine gets a bligh?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2025, 12:56 pm

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
To clarify , what is the 'what' that we missing since we only focusing on the 'who'?

The what is that people it is wrong to displace people from them land by means of violence.
The who is that once is Muslims doing the displacement, they can never be wrong in your eyes.
Why were you not so invested in being a 'freedom fighter' when Muslims were busy causing murder and mayhem in Syria?
Let me guess, Syria was years ago ,yadda yadda, so it isn't important now.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 7th, 2025, 1:41 pm

Only because he caught on Video. There are thousands who go beaten simply because they are Palestinians






An Israeli soldier has been found guilty of severe assaults of Palestinian detainees from Gaza, the first conviction for abuse in a system where dozens of people have died in custody and whistleblowers say torture and violence is rife.

Israel Hajabi, 25, repeatedly attacked bound and blindfolded detainees with his fists, a baton and his assault rifle, a military court found, describing his actions as “serious and severe”. On one day alone, 5 June last year, at the Sde Teiman detention centre he beat two men 15 times.

The assaults were committed between January and June 2024 when he was guarding detainees from Gaza. They were captured on video, and continued as victims cried out in pain. Hajabi also forced detainees to make animal noises and repeat humiliating phrases.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/israeli-soldi ... 04704.html

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2025, 2:49 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Human Rights Watch group: ICC sanctions put the US ‘on the side of war criminals’

US government sanctions targeting the International Criminal Court will undermine international accountability for the worst crimes and deprive victims around the globe of justice, Human Rights Watch has said.

The group added that an executive order issued by Trump on Thursday, which authorises asset freezes and entry bans on ICC officials and others supporting the court’s work, makes clear that the Trump administration “seeks to shield US and Israeli officials from facing war crimes and crimes against humanity charges”.

“Trump’s executive order on the International Criminal Court effectively puts the United States on the side of war criminals at the expense of victims of grave crimes seeking justice,” Liz Evenson, the group’s international justice director, said in a statement.

“ICC member countries should publicly and forcefully support the court for doing the job it was set up to do: ensuring no one is above the law.”


Once again why should the ICC matter now and not before?

South Africa as chief agitator against Israel at the ICC refused to arrest Omar Al Bashir while he was on an ICC warrant and in their country. They also said they would not have arrested Putin.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2025, 2:52 pm

South Africa and the global South community who salivating at the prospect of Israel at the ICC could go ferk themselves with the self righteous hypocrisy
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 3:03 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Human Rights Watch group: ICC sanctions put the US ‘on the side of war criminals’

US government sanctions targeting the International Criminal Court will undermine international accountability for the worst crimes and deprive victims around the globe of justice, Human Rights Watch has said.

The group added that an executive order issued by Trump on Thursday, which authorises asset freezes and entry bans on ICC officials and others supporting the court’s work, makes clear that the Trump administration “seeks to shield US and Israeli officials from facing war crimes and crimes against humanity charges”.

“Trump’s executive order on the International Criminal Court effectively puts the United States on the side of war criminals at the expense of victims of grave crimes seeking justice,” Liz Evenson, the group’s international justice director, said in a statement.

“ICC member countries should publicly and forcefully support the court for doing the job it was set up to do: ensuring no one is above the law.”
*Officially*

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 3:07 pm

timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
To clarify , what is the 'what' that we missing since we only focusing on the 'who'?

The what is that people it is wrong to displace people from them land by means of violence.
The who is that once is Muslims doing the displacement, they can never be wrong in your eyes.
Why were you not so invested in being a 'freedom fighter' when Muslims were busy causing murder and mayhem in Syria?
Let me guess, Syria was years ago ,yadda yadda, so it isn't important now.
Which is the Muslims murdering in Syria?
When have I supported, or even excused Muslims murdering in Syria ?

And no, nothing going on in Syria now is separate from 10 years ago, 20 years ago , 30 years ago, 40 years ago.
There have been so significant stable period long enough to define what these regions are .
Infact , all regions thst the us acted in, have been unstable , continuously roilling
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 3:09 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:South Africa and the global South community who salivating at the prospect of Israel at the ICC could go ferk themselves with the self righteous hypocrisy
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What were those warrants given for?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 7th, 2025, 3:19 pm

sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Meanwhile Screenshot_20250206_193132_Samsung%20Internet.jpg

Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
To clarify , what is the 'what' that we missing since we only focusing on the 'who'?

The what is that people it is wrong to displace people from them land by means of violence.
The who is that once is Muslims doing the displacement, they can never be wrong in your eyes.
Why were you not so invested in being a 'freedom fighter' when Muslims were busy causing murder and mayhem in Syria?
Let me guess, Syria was years ago ,yadda yadda, so it isn't important now.
Which is the Muslims murdering in Syria?
When have I supported, or even excused Muslims murdering in Syria ?

And no, nothing going on in Syria now is separate from 10 years ago, 20 years ago , 30 years ago, 40 years ago.
There have been so significant stable period long enough to define what these regions are .
Infact , all regions thst the us acted in, have been unstable , continuously roilling
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:South Africa and the global South community who salivating at the prospect of Israel at the ICC could go ferk themselves with the self righteous hypocrisy
Screenshot_20250207-145012.jpg
Screenshot_20250207-145154.jpg
What were those warrants given for?
Does it matter?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 7th, 2025, 3:36 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
sMASH wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
timelapse wrote:Oh wise learned ZR,
Can you explain to me why the Houthis exist in Yemen, a country that is considered an Islamic State where Sharia is the law?
Is being Muslim ruled not the Utopia?
Also explain the persecution of Non Muslims in Afghanistan in their latest state of governance.Keep in mind that these lands were also taken from its original inhabitants.
Religion is the fault of mankind

In every religion, there are extremists.

Christians are and have caused the most wars, genocide and murder. All regions are at fault.

In India exists Hindu fundamentalist, where they oppose Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs.

Catholics and Protestants have been at wars for the last 500yrs


Muslims & Jews are the same people and there exists extremists within these groups.

To single out one group of religion is bogus while not knowing what exists in other other religions .
You single out the extremist settlers all the time. Somehow they don't get this same level of Bligh.

The communities most affected by Oct 7th were peaceniks.....the ppl most friendly to the Palestinian cause. The European Jews you hate so much are the most liberal Israelis. The most dred haters in Israeli society are the Mizrahi, the ones who most resemble the average Palestinian.

Anyhows no Hindu or Buddhist fundamentalist has driven a car through a Christmas market in a European city or bought down two skyscrapers. Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Again, these guys are proving my point.Its not about the what to them, but the who.
They can point out Israel doing this, America doing that, but when the finger is pointed at a particular set of people, is always some strawman argument with splinter cells of 'extremists'.You are correct, stereotypes exist for a reason.
To clarify , what is the 'what' that we missing since we only focusing on the 'who'?

The what is that people it is wrong to displace people from them land by means of violence.
The who is that once is Muslims doing the displacement, they can never be wrong in your eyes.
Why were you not so invested in being a 'freedom fighter' when Muslims were busy causing murder and mayhem in Syria?
Let me guess, Syria was years ago ,yadda yadda, so it isn't important now.
Which is the Muslims murdering in Syria?
When have I supported, or even excused Muslims murdering in Syria ?

And no, nothing going on in Syria now is separate from 10 years ago, 20 years ago , 30 years ago, 40 years ago.
There have been so significant stable period long enough to define what these regions are .
Infact , all regions thst the us acted in, have been unstable , continuously roilling
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:South Africa and the global South community who salivating at the prospect of Israel at the ICC could go ferk themselves with the self righteous hypocrisy
Screenshot_20250207-145012.jpg
Screenshot_20250207-145154.jpg
What were those warrants given for?
Does it matter?
Yes it does. The warrant fir putin was absolute bs, and since the children were safely returned to Ukraine officials, it should be rescinded

I dint know what the sudan warrant is about. Never popped up on my feeds, but sudan is another country with American destabilizing operations.
This why one by one , African countries kicking out the western forces . As they don't want the libya, iraq treatment

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