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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » July 30th, 2024, 1:00 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

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Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Hush u lieing Zionists MC

Cia was fromed September 18, 1947 and beforehand that was called the OSS.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » July 30th, 2024, 1:18 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Hush u lieing Zionists MC

Cia was fromed September 18, 1947 and beforehand that was called the OSS.


Anyhows -
Venezuela will be free one day
Essequibo is Guyana's
Israel will always be Jewish
You will always be a kant

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 30th, 2024, 2:47 pm

Interesting take

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » July 30th, 2024, 3:36 pm

^ Superimpose that onto one with GDP and the economic decline precedes any of the Obama era sanctions

Chavez and Maduro's administrations just were not saavy enough to do long term planning beyond oil

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Bad Dog » July 30th, 2024, 3:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

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...because of US of A sanctions and efforts at regime change.
Economic Impact: US sanctions on Venezuela caused crises 3x worse than Great Depression. For almost two decades, Washington has imposed sweeping sanctions against Venezuela, the most significant of which have blocked oil imports from PDVSA and prevented the government from accessing the U.S. financial system.

Regime Change: U.S. administrations have continually demanded that Latin American leaders broadly align with the U.S. and its national security interests before the interests of any other country so they can steal their resources and most lucrative commodity. The US of A believe that it was their God-given responsibility to safeguard the region and intervene when necessary to ensure that Latin American leaders behaved (bend over) correctly, a policy enshrined in the Monroe Doctrine in 1823

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby alfa » July 30th, 2024, 4:18 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.

Israel didn't exist before 1948. CIA was formed a year before

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby paid_influencer » July 30th, 2024, 7:12 pm

i want to know where dizzy is getting these far-right borderline white supremest views from if he is infact a black/brown third world islander like the rest of us here. half his posts read like voice of america propaganda. not that there is anything wrong with voice of america i used to watch it. it is good infact i have to watch it again some day. but the other half is straight military far-right fetishism. not personally, don't take that personally, i consider you proletariat, my comrade, in the struggle of the get dictator rowley out of power. we have to join together all of us to demand interlatonal observers in 2025 #allhandsondeck

but ontopic, venezuela's problems are way more systemic than socialism. way back in 1976 they saw this coming when they formed OPEC

In 1976 Pérez Alfonzo gave an intuitive warning about what economists now call the "natural resource curse": "Ten years from now, twenty years from now, you will see, oil will bring us ruin... It is the devil's excrement."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pabl ... ez_Alfonzo
alfonzo was also a vegetarian, as are most good people

i listened to morgan job talk endlessly about the economic problems caused by oil wealth. that was back in the days when manning was in power and money was no object. that was way before obama and sanctions. morgan job saw it coming just as Alfonzo did. the devil's excrement

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » July 30th, 2024, 7:22 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Hush u lieing Zionists MC

Cia was fromed September 18, 1947 and beforehand that was called the OSS.


Anyhows -
Venezuela will be free one day
Essequibo is Guyana's
Israel will always be Jewish
You will always be a kant
Real Jews do not accept Israel and ur not one

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » July 30th, 2024, 7:26 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Hush u lieing Zionists MC

Cia was fromed September 18, 1947 and beforehand that was called the OSS.


Anyhows -
Venezuela will be free one day
Essequibo is Guyana's
Israel will always be Jewish
You will always be a kant
Real Jews do not accept Israel and ur not one


Yawnnn.....you don't have the 3rd highest ranking Hezbollass death to go mourn or something ?

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » July 30th, 2024, 7:29 pm

paid_influencer wrote:i want to know where dizzy is getting these far-right borderline white supremest views from if he is infact a black/brown third world islander like the rest of us here. half his posts read like voice of america propaganda. not that there is anything wrong with voice of america i used to watch it. it is good infact i have to watch it again some day. but the other half is straight military far-right fetishism. not personally, don't take that personally, i consider you proletariat, my comrade, in the struggle of the get dictator rowley out of power. we have to join together all of us to demand interlatonal observers in 2025 #allhandsondeck

but ontopic, venezuela's problems are way more systemic than socialism. way back in 1976 they saw this coming when they formed OPEC

In 1976 Pérez Alfonzo gave an intuitive warning about what economists now call the "natural resource curse": "Ten years from now, twenty years from now, you will see, oil will bring us ruin... It is the devil's excrement."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pabl ... ez_Alfonzo
alfonzo was also a vegetarian, as are most good people

i listened to morgan job talk endlessly about the economic problems caused by oil wealth. that was back in the days when manning was in power and money was no object. that was way before obama and sanctions. morgan job saw it coming just as Alfonzo did. the devil's excrement
Hes one of the Zionists who were kicked out of Eastern Europe. Zionists were low status in Europe more like untouchables of india. Real jews do not accept them.

He probably eats enough geera pork, like I said hes an inbreed that pretends to be white.

I know one thing he will never leave trinidad for Israel.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » July 30th, 2024, 7:32 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Hush u lieing Zionists MC

Cia was fromed September 18, 1947 and beforehand that was called the OSS.


Anyhows -
Venezuela will be free one day
Essequibo is Guyana's
Israel will always be Jewish
You will always be a kant
Real Jews do not accept Israel and ur not one


Yawnnn.....you don't have the 3rd highest ranking Hezbollass death to go mourn or something ?
Ur not Jewish nor are u white, just an inbred and ur very anti Muslim but live in part Muslim country.

Muslim brotherhood may need to take interest

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby sMASH » July 30th, 2024, 8:50 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Reminder that Socialism/Communism is Sheit

Venezuela went from richest to poorest country in SA in a generation

123.jpg
Vene poor because of CIA involvement, just as they mess up Palestinians, west bank and Gaza.


The state of Israel predates the existence of the CIA
Chavez was sheit, Maduro is sheit, the CIA is sheit but doesn't take away how poor Venezuela's leadership has been.
Bs.


Venezuela was coasin on trinidad as recently as 2010.. Is only after us sanctions or sumting(I not sure cause i wasn't following their business back then) that their economy tanked.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby sMASH » July 30th, 2024, 8:51 pm

paid_influencer wrote:i want to know where dizzy is getting these far-right borderline white supremest views from if he is infact a black/brown third world islander like the rest of us here. half his posts read like voice of america propaganda. not that there is anything wrong with voice of america i used to watch it. it is good infact i have to watch it again some day. but the other half is straight military far-right fetishism. not personally, don't take that personally, i consider you proletariat, my comrade, in the struggle of the get dictator rowley out of power. we have to join together all of us to demand interlatonal observers in 2025 #allhandsondeck

but ontopic, venezuela's problems are way more systemic than socialism. way back in 1976 they saw this coming when they formed OPEC

In 1976 Pérez Alfonzo gave an intuitive warning about what economists now call the "natural resource curse": "Ten years from now, twenty years from now, you will see, oil will bring us ruin... It is the devil's excrement."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pabl ... ez_Alfonzo
alfonzo was also a vegetarian, as are most good people

i listened to morgan job talk endlessly about the economic problems caused by oil wealth. that was back in the days when manning was in power and money was no object. that was way before obama and sanctions. morgan job saw it coming just as Alfonzo did. the devil's excrement
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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » July 30th, 2024, 9:34 pm

Men shill for Latino dictators
Shill for arabic dictators
Shill for Slavic dictators

Then vex with everybody else who not "free thinkers" like them

Paid Influencer has such a dearth of talking points to rebut with he brings out the race card.

Socialism and Communism are diseases
Trade unions that in 2024 still walk around calling everyone comrades and wearing caps with Soviet era symbols are not your friends

Deal with it

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby sMASH » July 30th, 2024, 9:36 pm

Let the citizens of Venezuela determine their future.
As Manning say, we will deal with who answer the phone

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby paid_influencer » July 30th, 2024, 9:58 pm

what race card I bring out? I say you is the same black/brown islander like myself. Is that not true?

edit: for clarity, it just very strange for somebody from here on the island to be drawn to far-right viewpoints.
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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby paid_influencer » July 30th, 2024, 10:07 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Paid Influencer has such a dearth of talking points


here's some talking points

-socialism is more important in 2024 than it ever was in the past
-you enjoy free healthcare, thanks to socialism. be grateful.
-that vaxx in your arm came from communists. be grateful
-the most powerful nation in the world is communist

i have more but i believe in a unity platform and i am counting on you to help when the day comes that rowley refuses to let international observers come in for 2025 elections #allhandsondeck

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » July 30th, 2024, 10:41 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Paid Influencer has such a dearth of talking points


here's some talking points

-socialism is more important in 2024 than it ever was in the past
-you enjoy free healthcare, thanks to socialism. be grateful.
-that vaxx in your arm came from communists. be grateful
-the most powerful nation in the world is communist

i have more but i believe in a unity platform and i am counting on you to help when the day comes that rowley refuses to let international observers come in for 2025 elections #allhandsondeck
It's cute you think a country with 814 billionaires is communist

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby paid_influencer » July 30th, 2024, 10:49 pm

what about the point about socialism being more important now that ever before. the wealth gap is bigger now than ever before. there are 200,000 islanders living on minimum wage. that is three thousand dollars a month for 40 hours full-time work. have you ever tried living at that income level?

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » July 31st, 2024, 8:37 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Men shill for Latino dictators
Shill for arabic dictators
Shill for Slavic dictators

Then vex with everybody else who not "free thinkers" like them

Paid Influencer has such a dearth of talking points to rebut with he brings out the race card.

Socialism and Communism are diseases
Trade unions that in 2024 still walk around calling everyone comrades and wearing caps with Soviet era symbols are not your friends

Deal with it
Zionists like urself are not free thinkers

The root cause of Venezuela, Gaza & west bank problems is the CIA

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby adnj » July 31st, 2024, 2:35 pm

paid_influencer wrote:what about the point about socialism being more important now that ever before. the wealth gap is bigger now than ever before. there are 200,000 islanders living on minimum wage. that is three thousand dollars a month for 40 hours full-time work. have you ever tried living at that income level?


The poverty rate in China is twice the poverty rate of Jamaica or Grenada. It seems as if a whole lot of Chinese lack both ability and need.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby SuperiorMan » August 1st, 2024, 12:02 pm

Wanted to see how Machado would have done.

We need more strong female latina leaders.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby VexXx Dogg » August 1st, 2024, 12:59 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Paid Influencer has such a dearth of talking points


here's some talking points

-socialism is more important in 2024 than it ever was in the past
-you enjoy free healthcare, thanks to socialism. be grateful.
-that vaxx in your arm came from communists. be grateful
-the most powerful nation in the world is communist

i have more but i believe in a unity platform and i am counting on you to help when the day comes that rowley refuses to let international observers come in for 2025 elections #allhandsondeck


first of all, lolwut

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » August 1st, 2024, 1:40 pm

Venezuela has almost million sq KMS of land, other resources besides petroleum, 30m ppl and years of +1m/bbl production of oil.

No amount of outside interference can mask the absolute leadership void they have had in not preparing their economy for an oil revenue drop.

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby zoom rader » August 1st, 2024, 3:36 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Venezuela has almost million sq KMS of land, other resources besides petroleum, 30m ppl and years of +1m/bbl production of oil.

No amount of outside interference can mask the absolute leadership void they have had in not preparing their economy for an oil revenue drop.
Bullśhit

CIA is involved

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby shaneelal » August 2nd, 2024, 5:37 am

Assessing the Results of Venezuela’s Presidential Election
Press Statement
Antony J. Blinken, Secretary of State
August 1, 2024

Given the overwhelming evidence, it is clear to the United States and, most importantly, to the Venezuelan people that Edmundo González Urrutia won the most votes in Venezuela’s July 28 presidential election.

https://www.state.gov/assessing-the-res ... -election/

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Bad Dog » August 2nd, 2024, 9:41 am

After two decades of coups attempts to overthrow the elected Presidents of Venezuela, Chavez and then Maduro. The US of A elected Juan Guaido El Presidente of Venezuela in 2019 and they have just elected Edmoundo Gonzales El Presidente in 2024 and forgot to tell Guaido that he lost the election. There is clear evidence that the US of A can vote for whom they prefer in foreign countries. Another disgraceful attempt at regime change. lol!

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby Dizzy28 » August 2nd, 2024, 10:02 am

Cuban dictator has sent soldiers to prop up Venezuelan dictator

Makes sense....regime recognize regime!!

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Re: Venezuela Government thread

Postby alfa » August 2nd, 2024, 10:31 am

Bad Dog wrote:After two decades of coups attempts to overthrow the elected Presidents of Venezuela, Chavez and then Maduro. The US of A elected Juan Guaido El Presidente of Venezuela in 2019 and they have just elected Edmoundo Gonzales El Presidente in 2024 and forgot to tell Guaido that he lost the election. There is clear evidence that the US of A can vote for whom they prefer in foreign countries. Another disgraceful attempt at regime change. lol!

I don't know who are the good guys and bad guys in the whole venezuelan political scene and I really don't care. Never followed it up
But when you see the USA gets involved you know nothing good can come from it. Look at how they tried to 'liberate ' Iraq, Afghan, Syria etc and how these places ended up today. The bigger question no one is asking is why do we as a sovereign nation even have to get USA's permission to do business with Venezuela?

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