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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby redmanjp » November 26th, 2023, 3:30 am

I think there was a dip in current a couple minutes ago here in Arima.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby ST Auto » November 26th, 2023, 6:25 am

redmanjp wrote:
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Les Bain wrote:Do government and government rented facilities shut off the unnecessary power drains after business hours?
Nope.. My ac will be pumping in a few rooms well


No ACs will be pumping if TTEC have to load shed in your area!
If they hada load shed they will regardless if my ac on or off.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby 88sins » November 26th, 2023, 7:25 am

So far so good, zero service interruption in Barataria.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby pugboy » November 26th, 2023, 7:36 am

this is normal trini ting
make announcement and then nada
just like them weather ppl

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Cantmis » November 26th, 2023, 8:23 am

pugboy wrote:this is normal trini ting
make announcement and then nada
just like them weather ppl
Tgu is on shutdown not t&tec. Tgu is generation t&tec is distribution

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby nervewrecker » November 26th, 2023, 9:38 am

aaron17 wrote:Wait so cell phone towers/communications/data gonna be down to?
These have backup power supplies ie batteries. Same batteries that find themselves in cars with hard pong.

TGU looking to bring a new turbine online. No word from them since last week because I didn't ask.

Also, T&tec is responsible for transmission and distribution, power generation is done by Trinity, Powergen and TGU. It's quite possible that Powergen and Trinity can handle much of the load because we had one gen offline at Trinity once and TGU went down. There wasn't much disturbance during the half hour time frame during which the gen was restarted and switches closed.

People abuse power, it's a well known fact. Typical colonial mentality where we need someone over our shoulders cracking a whip telling us to do the right thing. Even in the USA it's advised that AC units be set to 25 degrees C but we here what to feel like we in the snow. Over the last few years or so we have increased our energy demands unnecessarily. I for one always walk around at the end of the day and switch off what's not using because ultimately I have to pay for it. Others don't see it that way and the reality is I'm the bad one always.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby pugboy » November 26th, 2023, 10:33 am

they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby The Bamboo Online » November 26th, 2023, 10:37 am

aaron17 wrote:Wait so cell phone towers/communications/data gonna be down to?


Most of them got raided by thieves to supply demand for batteries for the local car audio industry and people living off the grid. So some towers go dead

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby fokhan_96 » November 26th, 2023, 10:59 am

pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby pugboy » November 26th, 2023, 11:17 am

those whole county blackouts were supposed more of a tripping nature,
ie a fault triggered breaker trip offs at all the other plants

from what was said then, the other plants wouldnt bother to come back on unless the fault is identified

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pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 26th, 2023, 11:47 am

The Bamboo Online wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Wait so cell phone towers/communications/data gonna be down to?


Most of them got raided by thieves to supply demand for batteries for the local car audio industry and people living off the grid. So some towers go dead

A few times I was on a cell phone call when we lost power and the call dropped

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby The Bamboo Online » November 26th, 2023, 12:24 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
The Bamboo Online wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Wait so cell phone towers/communications/data gonna be down to?


Most of them got raided by thieves to supply demand for batteries for the local car audio industry and people living off the grid. So some towers go dead

A few times I was on a cell phone call when we lost power and the call dropped


Bmobile cause this on themselves. Used to replace batteries before the recommended time frame. Order new ones and the “old” ones “disappeared” and would pop up on the marketplace. Now they give up and replacements are scarce

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby pugboy » November 26th, 2023, 12:33 pm

yeah we have all seen those batteries for sale of fb
and nobody bringing those batteries to sell for any other purpose but telecom sites

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby redmanjp » November 26th, 2023, 1:46 pm

ST Auto wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
ST Auto wrote:
Les Bain wrote:Do government and government rented facilities shut off the unnecessary power drains after business hours?
Nope.. My ac will be pumping in a few rooms well


No ACs will be pumping if TTEC have to load shed in your area!
If they hada load shed they will regardless if my ac on or off.


The load that energy hogging ACs are using would have determined that.

Anyway, maintenance completed.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/tgu-plant-upgrade-completed-without-any-outages-6.2.1862020.54f3d62ce5

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby nervewrecker » November 26th, 2023, 7:56 pm

fokhan_96 wrote:
pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?
People really still asking this?

There is the 220kv circuit and 66kv circuit off Powergen penal. When the tx failed at penal some time back outages were limited to the 66kv ring circuit. It can't be patched into the 220kv because of the primary voltage on all the main sub. So both are separate. The fact that both went down same time and both are seperate but a fault on one was to blame to for both going offline simultaneously really have people wondering still?

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 26th, 2023, 9:36 pm

Just lost power in Endeavour Chaguanas. Doesn’t seem too widespread though. We didn’t lose power at all during the scheduled maintenance.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Mmoney607 » November 26th, 2023, 9:43 pm

Nothing in paramin

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby gastly369 » November 26th, 2023, 9:44 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Just lost power in Endeavour Chaguanas. Doesn’t seem too widespread though. We didn’t lose power at all during the scheduled maintenance.
Fyzo siparia and point

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby gastly369 » November 26th, 2023, 9:51 pm

And we back....

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Gladiator » November 26th, 2023, 10:52 pm

fokhan_96 wrote:
pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?


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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby redmanjp » November 27th, 2023, 1:12 pm

the one in 2022 was due to a single point of failure with that high voltage line- i think they since introduced some redundancy so that doesn't happen again.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby VexXx Dogg » November 27th, 2023, 10:38 pm

Outage in Waterloo area atm

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby stev » November 27th, 2023, 11:52 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:Outage in Waterloo area atm


VexXx we is neighbours boy

ah boiling in d heat :cry:

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby Galvatron » November 28th, 2023, 6:45 am

nervewrecker wrote:
fokhan_96 wrote:
pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?
People really still asking this?

There is the 220kv circuit and 66kv circuit off Powergen penal. When the tx failed at penal some time back outages were limited to the 66kv ring circuit. It can't be patched into the 220kv because of the primary voltage on all the main sub. So both are separate. The fact that both went down same time and both are seperate but a fault on one was to blame to for both going offline simultaneously really have people wondering still?


Powergen Penal has no 220kv circuits

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby VexXx Dogg » November 28th, 2023, 8:56 am

stev wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Outage in Waterloo area atm


VexXx we is neighbours boy

ah boiling in d heat :cry:



it only lasted an hour and nobody else in my socials complained.
sometimes the ospreys trip the brickfield/roystonia circuit when they eating long fish and ground off two lines. Happened at least 5x in 2 years.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby nervewrecker » November 28th, 2023, 9:01 am

Galvatron wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:
fokhan_96 wrote:
pugboy wrote:they say since mittal closed there has been excess capacity
Nice to see with the main power plant down the others can take up the slack with minimum interruption.
It begs the question... when we had that total power outage on Wednesday 16th February, 2022 why wasn't these other ipp made to provide the extra capacity ?
People really still asking this?

There is the 220kv circuit and 66kv circuit off Powergen penal. When the tx failed at penal some time back outages were limited to the 66kv ring circuit. It can't be patched into the 220kv because of the primary voltage on all the main sub. So both are separate. The fact that both went down same time and both are seperate but a fault on one was to blame to for both going offline simultaneously really have people wondering still?


Powergen Penal has no 220kv circuits
Yes, I meant there is an existing 220kv circuit throughout t'dad and then there is a 66kv off powergen penal

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby stev » November 28th, 2023, 11:07 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
stev wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:Outage in Waterloo area atm


VexXx we is neighbours boy

ah boiling in d heat :cry:



it only lasted an hour and nobody else in my socials complained.
sometimes the ospreys trip the brickfield/roystonia circuit when they eating long fish and ground off two lines. Happened at least 5x in 2 years.


power returned 3.45pm by me....nearby transformer needed to be replaced. Saw them on the pole for a good few hours.

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Re: Power outage and load shedding

Postby goalpost » November 29th, 2023, 10:11 pm

So anyways powergen penal, pt lisas and tgu could handle the demand of the country. I mean tgu only ramp up 2 years ago. The reason why ttec could not pinpoint where current would go if there was a need for load shed is because its random.

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