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Who will win the upcoming local elections????

PNM
13
32%
UNC
14
34%
NTA
1
2%
PEP
3
7%
TIED VOTE
3
7%
DON'T VOTE
7
17%
 
Total votes: 41

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby toyolink » August 15th, 2023, 10:22 am

At least camden connector road kinda repaired, with some luck should hold for about 18 months.
Next stop is general elections.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Rovin » August 15th, 2023, 11:08 am

ay ay zoom back out yes

told yall since page 1 it wud be a tie

nothing has changed & d country still equally divided but d way d constituencies arranged from day 1 poo nm always have d upper hand for GE, but now that farley running things in tobago pee nm cant count dem 2 seats in d bag anymore ... & yea kamla will say she eh loss, so she position guaranty secured for GE :roll:

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Arcmanov » August 15th, 2023, 11:13 am

I guess it's safe to say no one from NTA or PEP was able to retain their deposit?

What's the criteria for that anyway?

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 15th, 2023, 11:16 am

maj. tom wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


Basically the queen will not abdicate, despite the loss of grassroots support.


If anything, this has convinced Kamla that she is more popular than ever to contest the 2025 GE.

It seems we don’t vote parties in - we vote them out.
Then that would mean ppl didn’t vote for UNC, instead they voted UNC to get rid of PNM, and vice versa

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby ed360123 » August 15th, 2023, 11:19 am

j.o.e wrote:Any comments from Gary ? Saw a long interview with PEA….. quite a long interview for a party that hardly made a note

NTA now the ‘defacto’ third party, insists Gary
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nta-now-the-defacto-third-party-insists-gary-6.2.1776280.8ae1a2c3fd

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby VexXx Dogg » August 15th, 2023, 11:24 am

ed360123 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Any comments from Gary ? Saw a long interview with PEA….. quite a long interview for a party that hardly made a note

NTA now the ‘defacto’ third party, insists Gary
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/nta-now-the-defacto-third-party-insists-gary-6.2.1776280.8ae1a2c3fd

Phillip says he is the third party.
I think they should have a MMA battle to settle it

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby redmanjp » August 15th, 2023, 11:27 am

redmanjp wrote:Picong party result for Cleaver/D'abadie saying 1 vote for PNM 0 for others. :?


this is still so - my area. Picong party what goin on?


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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2023, 11:34 am

Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


If UNC absorbs Griffith and Phillip they win easily, probably 23 seats I think.

If not, then PNM will likely win due to how the seats are cut up, UNC could probably even get majority vote and still lose.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Dizzy28 » August 15th, 2023, 11:38 am

redmanjp wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Picong party result for Cleaver/D'abadie saying 1 vote for PNM 0 for others. :?


this is still so - my area. Picong party what goin on?


CleaverDabadie LGE result.png


:?
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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby aaron17 » August 15th, 2023, 11:44 am

redmanjp wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Picong party result for Cleaver/D'abadie saying 1 vote for PNM 0 for others. :?


this is still so - my area. Picong party what goin on?


CleaverDabadie LGE result.png
Is this true? I thought parties who going up can vote?

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Mmoney607 » August 15th, 2023, 11:47 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


Basically the queen will not abdicate, despite the loss of grassroots support.

Yea, bro we need Vasant to win the corridor, he could really connect with the youths down there

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby death365 » August 15th, 2023, 12:13 pm

but thats a landslide victory !!!!

redmanjp wrote:
redmanjp wrote:Picong party result for Cleaver/D'abadie saying 1 vote for PNM 0 for others. :?


this is still so - my area. Picong party what goin on?


CleaverDabadie LGE result.png

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2023, 12:36 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


If UNC absorbs Griffith and Phillip they win easily, probably 23 seats I think.

If not, then PNM will likely win due to how the seats are cut up, UNC could probably even get majority vote and still lose.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Ben_spanna » August 15th, 2023, 12:39 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


Basically the queen will not abdicate, despite the loss of grassroots support.

Yea, bro we need Vasant to win the corridor, he could really connect with the youths down there


Its not her unpopularity in the E/W -its where are the fr1gg1ng criminals live who love this place just as it is. They are the ones keeping back progress of this country

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby pugboy » August 15th, 2023, 1:19 pm

so what supposed to happen from an electoral point of one party has such a huge disparity in votes won but still loses overall?

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby j.o.e » August 15th, 2023, 1:24 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


If UNC absorbs Griffith and Phillip they win easily, probably 23 seats I think.

If not, then PNM will likely win due to how the seats are cut up, UNC could probably even get majority vote and still lose.


1+1+1 does not equal 3 in politics.
The people who voted for PEP and NTA are not necessarily willing to vote for UNC

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby 16 cycles » August 15th, 2023, 1:46 pm

So now all parties could put forward their FuL proposals for next GE....

Might be breaking records in murder rates till then...

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby one eye » August 15th, 2023, 2:19 pm

I came back for a few days to exercise my civil rights to vote as a Trinidadian.

Loved the support that PNM has provided for my community over the years and not just the few weeks coming up to elections.

We will win again in 2025!

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Dohplaydat » August 15th, 2023, 2:26 pm

j.o.e wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:So UNC won the most the seats and popular vote but corporations remain 7-7. KPB can actually beat her chest and claim"victory" given she had two of the three metrics and tied on the 3rd. However what should be more unsettling for the UNC is their continued unpopularity in the E/W Corridor. No GE can be won without gains there.


If UNC absorbs Griffith and Phillip they win easily, probably 23 seats I think.

If not, then PNM will likely win due to how the seats are cut up, UNC could probably even get majority vote and still lose.


1+1+1 does not equal 3 in politics.
The people who voted for PEP and NTA are not necessarily willing to vote for UNC


not 3, but 2.5....enough to beat the pnm

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby VexXx Dogg » August 15th, 2023, 2:28 pm

PEP and NTA combined simply don't have enough votes to help the UNC win an LGE.
COP was the outlier that the small parties are trying to replicate - but that was an anomaly that won't happen again soon.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Dizzy28 » August 15th, 2023, 2:47 pm

The UNC has requested 11 out of the 13 requests for recounts received by the EBC. In a release, the EBC said all recounts will begin at 3:00 p.m. today at the Office for the Returning Officer for the electoral district where the recount was requested.

The EBC provided the list of all seats where recounts are being requested:

1. Arima Northeast (UNC)

2. Arima West/O’Meara (UNC)

3. Auzonville/Tunapuna (UNC)

4. Bagatelle/Blue Basin (UNC)

5. Blanchisseuse/Santa Rosa (UNC)

6. Cocoyea/Tarouba (UNC)

7. Five Rivers (UNC)

8. Lengua/Indian Walk (UNC)

9. Marabella West (PNM)

10. Marabella South/Vistabella (PNM)

11. Mayaro North (UNC)

12. Sangre Grande Northeast (UNC)

13. San Juan East (UNC)

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/unc-req ... ource=pitc

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby ed360123 » August 15th, 2023, 3:24 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:The UNC has requested 11 out of the 13 requests for recounts received by the EBC. In a release, the EBC said all recounts will begin at 3:00 p.m. today at the Office for the Returning Officer for the electoral district where the recount was requested.

The EBC provided the list of all seats where recounts are being requested:

1. Arima Northeast (UNC)

2. Arima West/O’Meara (UNC)

3. Auzonville/Tunapuna (UNC)

4. Bagatelle/Blue Basin (UNC)

5. Blanchisseuse/Santa Rosa (UNC)

6. Cocoyea/Tarouba (UNC)

7. Five Rivers (UNC)

8. Lengua/Indian Walk (UNC)

9. Marabella West (PNM)

10. Marabella South/Vistabella (PNM)

11. Mayaro North (UNC)

12. Sangre Grande Northeast (UNC)

13. San Juan East (UNC)

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/unc-req ... ource=pitc
Odds that any of the results change significantly?

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby zoom rader » August 15th, 2023, 3:43 pm

ed360123 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The UNC has requested 11 out of the 13 requests for recounts received by the EBC. In a release, the EBC said all recounts will begin at 3:00 p.m. today at the Office for the Returning Officer for the electoral district where the recount was requested.

The EBC provided the list of all seats where recounts are being requested:

1. Arima Northeast (UNC)

2. Arima West/O’Meara (UNC)

3. Auzonville/Tunapuna (UNC)

4. Bagatelle/Blue Basin (UNC)

5. Blanchisseuse/Santa Rosa (UNC)

6. Cocoyea/Tarouba (UNC)

7. Five Rivers (UNC)

8. Lengua/Indian Walk (UNC)

9. Marabella West (PNM)

10. Marabella South/Vistabella (PNM)

11. Mayaro North (UNC)

12. Sangre Grande Northeast (UNC)

13. San Juan East (UNC)

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/unc-req ... ource=pitc
Odds that any of the results change significantly?
Red government is known for stealing elections

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby sMASH » August 15th, 2023, 4:52 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:PEP and NTA combined simply don't have enough votes to help the UNC win an LGE.
COP was the outlier that the small parties are trying to replicate - but that was an anomaly that won't happen again soon.
Plenty people would have voted pep, but no Candidate.


I give unc the x , cause st least empty d clip, snd is a unc safe seat, so mattered not any way.

But at least contribute to the popular vote

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Postby sMASH » August 15th, 2023, 4:54 pm

If Kamala get replaced by a suitable character, we might consider joining.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby zoom rader » August 15th, 2023, 5:15 pm

sMASH wrote:If Kamala get replaced by a suitable character, we might consider joining.
MP for P/Town as PM

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Les Bain » August 15th, 2023, 5:15 pm

Steups. Feels as if Kamla on PNM payroll cause they benefit from her not abdicating her position as UNC's leader.

Wasn't she one of the loudest voices calling for Bas to pack it in and spend quality time with his wife and Dolly?

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Postby zoom rader » August 15th, 2023, 5:21 pm

Les Bain wrote:Steups. Feels as if Kamla on PNM payroll cause they benefit from her not abdicating her position as UNC's leader.

Wasn't she one of the loudest voices calling for Bas to pack it in and spend quality time with his wife and Dolly?
Who in her party calling for her to step aside?

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby VexXx Dogg » August 15th, 2023, 6:03 pm

Les Bain wrote:Steups. Feels as if Kamla on PNM payroll cause they benefit from her not abdicating her position as UNC's leader.

Wasn't she one of the loudest voices calling for Bas to pack it in and spend quality time with his wife and Dolly?

Aligns with my theory that she’s happy to play opposition until retirement or death. Most of the benefits less of the stress.

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Re: ***2023 local elections thread****

Postby Les Bain » August 15th, 2023, 6:05 pm

VexXx Dogg wrote:
Les Bain wrote:Steups. Feels as if Kamla on PNM payroll cause they benefit from her not abdicating her position as UNC's leader.

Wasn't she one of the loudest voices calling for Bas to pack it in and spend quality time with his wife and Dolly?

Aligns with my theory that she’s happy to play opposition until retirement or death. Most of the benefits less of the stress.


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