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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
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43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby ruffneck_12 » May 19th, 2023, 7:51 am

If doctors say it, it must be true!

They have no agenda! They are doing this entirely as a charity, they work off of pure donations, not profit!

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ALL HAIL THE ALL MIGHTY SCIENCE.
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(except when the science has changed)

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Postby adnj » May 19th, 2023, 8:15 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:If doctors say it, it must be true!

They have no agenda! They are doing this entirely as a charity, they work off of pure donations, not profit!

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ALL HAIL THE ALL MIGHTY SCIENCE.
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(except when the science has changed)
Those advertisements were positioned so that the reader could easily reach a conclusion that they were looking for.

If you actually read what you just posted, you might see that:
Poster 1 is entirely plausible but misleading.
Posters 2 & 3 have nothing to do with the health effects of smoking.

How Madison Avenue advertising agencies kept Americans smoking when all of the medical research showed that smoking was deadly is still used as an example of how to conduct a successful misinformation campaign.

People saw what they wanted to see. It seems to still be happening today - even with those same old ads.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby ruffneck_12 » May 19th, 2023, 8:18 am

adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:If doctors say it, it must be true!

They have no agenda! They are doing this entirely as a charity, they work off of pure donations, not profit!

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ALL HAIL THE ALL MIGHTY SCIENCE.
EVER CONSTANT AND EVER FACTUAL
(except when the science has changed)
Those advertisements were positioned so that the reader could easily reach a conclusion that they were looking for.

If you actually read what you just posted, you might see that:
Poster 1 is entirely plausible but misleading.
Posters 2 & 3 have nothing to do with the health effects of smoking.

How Madison Avenue advertising agencies kept Americans smoking when all of the medical research showed that smoking was deadly is still used as an example of how to conduct a successful misinformation campaign.


People saw what they wanted to see. It seems to still be happening today - even with those same old ads.



eheheheh ;)

Sound familiar?

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby sMASH » May 19th, 2023, 11:19 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:
adnj wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:If doctors say it, it must be true!

They have no agenda! They are doing this entirely as a charity, they work off of pure donations, not profit!

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ALL HAIL THE ALL MIGHTY SCIENCE.
EVER CONSTANT AND EVER FACTUAL
(except when the science has changed)
Those advertisements were positioned so that the reader could easily reach a conclusion that they were looking for.

If you actually read what you just posted, you might see that:
Poster 1 is entirely plausible but misleading.
Posters 2 & 3 have nothing to do with the health effects of smoking.

How Madison Avenue advertising agencies kept Americans smoking when all of the medical research showed that smoking was deadly is still used as an example of how to conduct a successful misinformation campaign.


People saw what they wanted to see. It seems to still be happening today - even with those same old ads.



eheheheh ;)

Sound familiar?
Horse paste!




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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby redmanjp » May 19th, 2023, 12:55 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:Time for me to throw some more troll fuel onto the forum.

Coming up next: an article that says that every quality study completed on ivermectin indicates that it has no effect on COVID outcomes.

SARS-CoV-2 transmission with and without mask wearing or air cleaners in schools in Switzerland: A modeling study of epidemiological, environmental, and molecular data

Published: May 18, 2023

Conclusions
Molecular detection of airborne and human SARS-CoV-2 indicated sustained transmission in schools. Mask mandates were associated with greater reductions in aerosol concentrations than air cleaners and with lower transmission. Our multiple-measurement approach could be used to continuously monitor transmission risk of respiratory infections and the effectiveness of infection control measures in schools and other congregate settings.

What did the researchers do and find?
We used molecular, environmental, and epidemiological data to understand the transmission of the virus causing COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) in 2 secondary schools (90 students) in Switzerland in the presence and absence of mask wearing and air cleaners.

We detected SARS-CoV-2 in aerosols in the air and saliva samples from the students throughout the study.
Aerosol and particle concentrations were on average 70% lower with mask mandates and 40% lower with air cleaners.

The transmission model estimated that between 2 and 19 infections could be avoided during the study period with mask wearing.

What do these findings mean?
Molecular analyses indicated sustained airborne SARS-CoV-2 transmission.

Mask wearing may be more effective than air cleaners in reducing aerosol concentrations and transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

This approach can be used to assess transmission dynamics and the effectiveness of infection control measures in reducing transmission of respiratory infections during future epidemics.


https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/ ... ed.1004226
Big pharma again.
Ivermectin dog cheap, mrna 20 a dose. Obviously yhe Ivermectin doesn't work.


Look at Africa lowest covee rates on the world


if according to a recent study posted here that covid deaths are caused by secondary pneumonia- perhaps secondary bacteria or parasites could be present in covid patients in africa, and the ivm is used to treat the parasite- now the covid treatment suppresses the immune response which is what makes covid bad, but in doing so prevents the immune system from dealing with the parasite which is what kills the patient. now if u treat such a patient with ivm it treats the parasite thereby saving the patient.

that is probably what is saving some ppl in africa. the other is that they done already have a small elderly population so not much ppl to dead anyway.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby sMASH » May 19th, 2023, 7:21 pm

I went to do a triple bypass the other day.
Because thst wouldn't let me work without taking that procedure. They couldn't fire me fir not taking it, but they wouldn't let me work.
The bypass wasn't because i had heart disease, but they wanted to protect the other workers there from heart disease... Even though i didn't have heart disease.

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Postby Chimera » May 19th, 2023, 7:23 pm

U equate a triple bypass to a contagious airborne disease?

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Postby st7 » May 19th, 2023, 7:34 pm

straws need to be grasped lol

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby redmanjp » May 19th, 2023, 7:42 pm

i didn't know heart disease contagious :? :roll:

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby sMASH » May 19th, 2023, 7:48 pm

The triple bypass does stop transmission.
Once u take it, u can't spread it to others.
And u can have a heart disease 'safe zone'

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Postby maj. tom » May 19th, 2023, 7:49 pm

Condolences. Hope you fully recover.

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Postby alfa » May 19th, 2023, 8:00 pm

COVID was so 2021 but people still beating up lol

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby sMASH » May 19th, 2023, 8:04 pm

U want to get lock down again, for a fictitious reason that u legally can't challenge?

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Postby adnj » May 19th, 2023, 8:04 pm

COVID also causes heart disease. He should have been vaccinated and worn a well-fitting mask.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby ed360123 » May 19th, 2023, 10:35 pm

sMASH wrote:I went to do a triple bypass the other day.
Because thst wouldn't let me work without taking that procedure. They couldn't fire me fir not taking it, but they wouldn't let me work.
The bypass wasn't because i had heart disease, but they wanted to protect the other workers there from heart disease... Even though i didn't have heart disease.
That would explain a lot, since all of your posts sound like someone whose brain is dealing with a lack of oxygen.

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Postby sMASH » May 20th, 2023, 7:30 am

adnj wrote:COVID also causes heart disease. He should have been vaccinated and worn a well-fitting mask.
Take the jab to stop the spread...lol

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby wing » May 20th, 2023, 7:45 am

ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:I went to do a triple bypass the other day.
Because thst wouldn't let me work without taking that procedure. They couldn't fire me fir not taking it, but they wouldn't let me work.
The bypass wasn't because i had heart disease, but they wanted to protect the other workers there from heart disease... Even though i didn't have heart disease.
That would explain a lot, since all of your posts sound like someone whose brain is dealing with a lack of oxygen.
Free thinkers don't need to be constrained with so called research and science. They don't even need to have anything like a scientific understanding or social skills. That's why an
E/I tech could pronounce definitively on epidemiology, immunology and community medical issues using Google and YouTube. It's the basis of free thinking that once opinions are contrary to any mainstream understanding, it must be true, even logic can be manipulated to fit a free thinking narrative. Let the sheep follow what they want. The free thinking dodos will do the same.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby The_Honourable » May 20th, 2023, 10:12 am

alfa wrote:COVID was so 2021 but people still beating up lol


Ent? it's entertaining tho. :lol:

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Postby drchaos » May 20th, 2023, 2:41 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
alfa wrote:COVID was so 2021 but people still beating up lol


Ent? it's entertaining tho. :lol:


Also 2022 cause people like Maj tom and fembot adnj didn't want to let go.

Heck they still want people to get boosted and wear masks in 2023 ... so they still toting for it not to end.

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Postby maj. tom » May 20th, 2023, 2:57 pm

You hadda be living in your own fantasy world trying be a threatened internet hero cuz I haven't said anything or in this thread for a time, except to ask if people never used to wash their hands with soap before covid. I just saw a fellow tuner member say he was sick and wished him a full recovery.

But I notice how everytime u bounce in here u only calling my name everytime with your dick between your two fingers. Ease up on your rental dues creepy fake doctor.

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Postby adnj » May 20th, 2023, 3:53 pm

In other words,
You were stupid before COVID and that's why you caught COVID
Now, you're even more stupid.


Poorer decision making among college students during the COVID-19 pandemic: Evidence for “pandemic-brain”
28 Mar 2023

A study conducted by The Ohio State University suggests that the COVID-19 pandemic has negatively affected college students’ decision-making capabilities. Stress caused by the global event was found to have potentially overwhelmed students’ cognitive resources, leading to less consistent decision-making and difficulty in evaluating information effectively, with students more likely to fluctuate between intuitive and analytical thinking based on the framing of the scenario.

These decision making changes could increase the risk of making an impulsive choice with negative health consequences affecting demands on student health centers and imperiling learning environments.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 23.2186129

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Postby sMASH » May 20th, 2023, 5:18 pm

https://youtu.be/Kn0KQfI3dds


Excess deaths are still high. And not being investigated

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Postby sMASH » May 20th, 2023, 5:19 pm

https://youtu.be/kEE5OfiVS7o


Spike protein in many organs

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Postby adnj » May 20th, 2023, 7:47 pm

sMASH wrote:Excess deaths are still high. And not being investigated

No, they are not.

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Postby wing » May 20th, 2023, 8:18 pm

If someone is following a certain person on social media and makes his opinions based solely on the social media person's teaching, does that make smash a sheep?

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Postby sMASH » May 20th, 2023, 8:50 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Excess deaths are still high. And not being investigated

No, they are not.

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20% difference isnt high?
Okayyyyyy

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Postby adnj » May 20th, 2023, 9:30 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Excess deaths are still high. And not being investigated

No, they are not.

20% difference isnt high?
Okayyyyyy

My opinion is of no consequence. But Statistics Canada shows that the latest data is near or within the 95% CI.

Prior to the emergence of the Omicron variant of COVID‑19, four significant periods of excess mortality were observed nationally since the start of the pandemic. From March 2020 to June 2020, followed by a longer period of excess deaths from September 2020 to February 2021. There was a shorter period experienced in May 2021, and another coinciding with the emergence of the Delta variant, from July 2021 to December 2021. While in general, these four periods have coincided with higher numbers of deaths due directly to COVID‑19, excess mortality could be affected because of various other factors, including delayed medical procedures, increased harms related to substance use, or changes in the prevalence of other diseases and medical conditions. For example, in the early summer of 2021, Alberta and British Colombia experienced a heat dome which coincided with more than 3,500 deaths in the two provinces over a two-week period ending July 10.

Since the emergence of the Omicron variant in late November 2021, there have been two periods of significant excess mortality observed so far. Nationally, there were significantly more deaths than expected from the beginning of January 2022 to the end of February 2022. During this period of excess mortality, the highest number of deaths and the highest weekly rate of excess mortality of the pandemic were recorded in the third week of January 2022: over one in five deaths during this week would not have been expected had there been no pandemic. In the spring, excess deaths were observed from the middle of April 2022 to the middle of June 2022. While the first period of excess mortality in 2022 was driven by excess mortality in Quebec and Ontario, the most recent period of excess mortality was driven by excess mortality in the three westernmost provinces. In fact, Alberta and British Colombia had higher than expected weekly deaths through much of 2022.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71- ... 28-eng.htm

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Postby sMASH » May 20th, 2023, 9:39 pm

Supposed to be lower than that in 2023. But it's still high.
U have even less comorbid, people, more vaxef snd boosted population, and natural immunity.

Its not suppsed to be high... Supposed to be even lower

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Postby adnj » May 20th, 2023, 9:57 pm

sMASH wrote:Supposed to be lower than that in 2023. But it's still high.
U have even less comorbid, people, more vaxef snd boosted population, and natural immunity.

Its not suppsed to be high... Supposed to be even lower

Really? How would you even come to that conclusion? According to the published records, the expected mortality due to all causes was considered and calculated. And then the people in the Canadian offices that actually track the number of deaths have said something to the contrary.

Maybe they skewed the data. There seems to be a lot of data-skewing going on in the world.

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Re: Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers (Poll up)

Postby sMASH » May 21st, 2023, 10:38 am

When everything is regular, u would expect a certain amount of deaths.
Some new factor that attacks the most vulnerable drove up the death rate for 2020 2021,wnd 2022.
That new factor has been removed or at least weskened from when it started, and other factors to mitigate its effect should reduce the excess death rate back to normal levels.
But the people who would hsve died now, was killed off in 2020 to 2022. So normally u wpipd expect some to die now, they were already killed off.
So the expected death rate should be less now.



But its still more... Even after immunity snd after the virus mutated down.


Some other factor is keeping tue excess death rate high

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