Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

[wing]

They definitely won't give you any p&ids, that's proprietary information. However, you can search on this website: http://www.google.com and visit the niquan energy page and for more information, type "gas to liquids" and you will find a general process description. You're welcome.

[sMASH]

Them use my instrumentation drawings to retrofit the gauges and switches.

I should have taken arshad number when I saw him, oui.

[sMASH]

Dat?
Dat real jokey.

[wing]

Them use my instrumentation drawings to retrofit the gauges and switches.

I should have taken arshad number when I saw him, oui.

Arshad was only involved in construction and commissioning, his company's involvement is over. He shouldn't have those drawings in his possession. Of course I will not share his contact information with some stranger on tuner.
Also how in depth do you want to know the process? Unless you want to go work there. But apparently it's a PNM financier so you won't be interested.

[sMASH]

Them use my instrumentation drawings to retrofit the gauges and switches.

I should have taken arshad number when I saw him, oui.

Arshad was only involved in construction and commissioning, his company's involvement is over. He shouldn't have those drawings in his possession. Of course I will not share his contact information with some stranger on tuner.

All they ask for is the badge and one of the nsme tags on the coveralls, when u leaving . Lol


Oh gosh, Come nah man...
I wah see dat carbon capture.

[Cantmis]

Front-end, many steam headers, wax etc

[sMASH]

So they saying that co2 injection is carbon capture? Wow, lol okay.


And the back.... Like,

I need a p n Id. The detsils is what I interested in.


I have an idea, just need a comparison.

[nervewrecker]

So they saying that co2 injection is carbon capture? Wow, lol okay.


And the back.... Like,

I need a p n Id. The detsils is what I interested in.


I have an idea, just need a comparison.

Isnt it? At any given time a volume of CO2 is contained.

[De Dragon]

So they saying that co2 injection is carbon capture? Wow, lol okay.


And the back.... Like,

I need a p n Id. The detsils is what I interested in.


I have an idea, just need a comparison.

Isnt it? At any given time a volume of CO2 is contained.

Yes, and methanol plants have been doing it since the early nineties here.

[nervewrecker]

So they saying that co2 injection is carbon capture? Wow, lol okay.


And the back.... Like,

I need a p n Id. The detsils is what I interested in.


I have an idea, just need a comparison.

Isnt it? At any given time a volume of CO2 is contained.

Yes, and methanol plants have been doing it since the early nineties here.

*starts daydreaming*

[sMASH]

Lol... REcapture, as it was the waste product from a previous process.


But where they getting their co2 from?
From an auto thermal like methanex?

Or do they have some other process that co2 is a waste?

If u have to generate it to use it. Then they really should not claim carbon capture..


If Dat is carbon capture, then. The process is also methane capture. Cause methane is a green house gas and also injected into the process.

[sMASH]

But I really interested in if the syngss is reacted directly into diesel, or Is it reacted into an intermediary material, that then is used to synthesize into diesel in a subsequent step.


Like how dme is done. Syngas > MeOH >dme

[nervewrecker]

Lol... REcapture, as it was the waste product from a previous process.


But where they getting their co2 from?
From an auto thermal like methanex?

Or do they have some other process that co2 is a waste?

If u have to generate it to use it. Then they really should not claim carbon capture..


If Dat is carbon capture, then. The process is also methane capture. Cause methane is a green house gas and also injected into the process.

Open to correction here but CO2 is removed from the atmosphere. I know for a fact massy sells CO2 because I asked about it for usage. Unsure if they purchase from massy or have their own plant. There is a nitrogen plant on site, compressor, condenser etc, cant recall seeing a CO2 plant.

CO2 increases efficiency and yield.

I think CGCL has their own CO2 plant to capture from the atmosphere.

[sMASH]

Lol... REcapture, as it was the waste product from a previous process.


But where they getting their co2 from?
From an auto thermal like methanex?

Or do they have some other process that co2 is a waste?

If u have to generate it to use it. Then they really should not claim carbon capture..


If Dat is carbon capture, then. The process is also methane capture. Cause methane is a green house gas and also injected into the process.

Open to correction here but CO2 is removed from the atmosphere. I know for a fact massy sells CO2 because I asked about it for usage. Unsure if they purchase from massy or have their own plant. There is a nitrogen plant on site, compressor, condenser etc, cant recall seeing a CO2 plant.

CO2 increases efficiency and yield.

I think CGCL has their own CO2 plant to capture from the atmosphere.

Some process plants generate co2 by burning methane with air. The ammonia plants do so to remove carbon from the gas streams. Some methanol pants use the co2 waste from the ammonia pants, as feed stock for its process. It co2 makes the process more efficient as its brings it closer to stoichiometric.
Some methanol plants don't have access to co2, so add air to burn some of the methane feedstock. The waste products of that would be co2 and water, and the proportions get to be more stoichiometric that way.
The mass flow rates required for the big plants is significantly higher than what the gas distillers like Massey, could supply.

[sMASH]

Cgcl capturing co2 from the air is music to my ears. I was wondering of it is feasible to extract co2 from air, as it's a lot of air to process, to get the co2 in the quantities necessary for a process plant.

Now I want to know how THEY do it... Do they do like the ammonia pants and chemically scrub it from air, or would they do like what I thinking about doing and chill it from the air....

[nervewrecker]

Cgcl capturing co2 from the air is music to my ears. I was wondering of it is feasible to extract co2 from air, as it's a lot of air to process, to get the co2 in the quantities necessary for a process plant.

Now I want to know how THEY do it... Do they do like the ammonia pants and chemically scrub it from air, or would they do like what I thinking about doing and chill it from the air....

I could ask but as of late I have come to the conclusion that some of these plants are populated with complete brain dead morons that have not one clue as to what is going on. The only way you sure to get accurate info is if you find an engineer and ask, even some of those got in by jumping over the back fence and wearing a nomex with company logo.

Classic example, if you none the wiser, people swear by the fact LNG is frozen for transport in marine vessels. This is to minimize the rocking movements from turbulence.

[sMASH]

Wtf!!,
Bro...

[sMASH]

It's INNN the name... Like boy scouts.
LIQUIFIED natural gas.



The ting about trini I can't stand is, they invent a reason to justify the bs.

*rocking of boats*.


Do they freeze the oils on tankers too....

Mc.

[nervewrecker]

It's INNN the name... Like boy scouts.
LIQUIFIED natural gas.



The ting about trini I can't stand is, they invent a reason to justify the bs.

*rocking of boats*.


Do they freeze the oils on tankers too....

Mc.

LNG is just the name of the place they said

i asked the same thing, if they freeze oil, fuel and methanol.

[sMASH]

Mc

[nervewrecker]

From what I recall carbon is obtained from the syngas stream, plant can run without carbon from other sources but additional CO2 is welcome to increase yields. I really dont recall seeing a carbon dioxide plant on site.

Leme see what I dig up.

I also do recall seeing a tuner badge on someone ride there, if only the person will come forward.

[nervewrecker]

By product of other plants
Aum ammonia supplies downstream with ammonia and co2
Ax supplies mx I think

Q: they dont take co2 from the air by chance? or cant?

I don’t think a skid for that in the plant design

The 3 ammonia plants have co2 scrubbers
N2000 uses benfield solution and I can’t remember what cnc and aum uses

see what happens when you ask someone who knows jack chit and not take on pointless babbling from people.

[sMASH]

That's how the nh3 plants remove co2 from. Those systems.buthow does cgcl get additional co2?
From the atmosphere? Okay, but how, a chemical process or by chilling compressed air?

[nervewrecker]

aye, one thing at a time

[maj. tom]

Industrially CO2 is produced by combustion of methane, since distillation and liquefaction from air would be inefficient and low yield.



They probably also don't waste it when created as a byproduct of other reactions like here:

[nervewrecker]

I trying to remember off the top of my head what was the first refrigerant carrier used in the printery, it sounded like dme

[sMASH]

Industrially CO2 is produced by combustion of methane, since distillation and liquefaction from air would be inefficient and low yield.



They probably also don't waste it when created as a byproduct of other reactions like here:

Traditionally, yes.
But given the new green revolution, not sure if newer places trying other methods.
I personally gonna try freezing it out of the air.

[nervewrecker]

Industrially CO2 is produced by combustion of methane, since distillation and liquefaction from air would be inefficient and low yield.



They probably also don't waste it when created as a byproduct of other reactions like here:

Traditionally, yes.
But given the new green revolution, not sure if newer places trying other methods.
I personally gonna try freezing it out of the air.

I think Amazon has a machine to create dry ice. Removes CO2 from the air.

Gonna build your own?

Was researching possible sources for my use.

[sMASH]

Industrially CO2 is produced by combustion of methane, since distillation and liquefaction from air would be inefficient and low yield.



They probably also don't waste it when created as a byproduct of other reactions like here:

Traditionally, yes.
But given the new green revolution, not sure if newer places trying other methods.
I personally gonna try freezing it out of the air.

I think Amazon has a machine to create dry ice. Removes CO2 from the air.

Gonna build your own?

Was researching possible sources for my use.

Yes.

But I worked in an ammonia plsnt and became familiar with the chemical scrubbing of co2 from the process.


So, just wanted to know if the big billion dollar companies came up with other means of extracting co2 from air other thsn chemical scrubbing.



Not a lot of co2 In air, compared to just burning methane. But burning methane has a cost.

So would really like to confirm. How cgcl generates its co2.







Thwt is one item of interest.
The other is, how GTL back end generates its diesel: syngas to converter and out comes diesel, or syn gas to converter out comes some material which is then sent to some other step that creates the diesel.

[nervewrecker]

And what are your long term solutions for the captured carbon?

Create fuel and return it back into the cycle? Plants are a long term solution being carbon based or refrigerants since refrigeration is now a necessity with global temp rise. R290 aka propane is a direct drop in replacement for R22 and I had retrofitted a lot of systems with it as a long term solution. But there is still the debate as to if global warming is real and its not just fluctuations of the suns temp.

Hempcrete is another long term solution but we not ready for that here.