Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

[De Dragon]

So again you don't like the answer so you get pissy.
It was you who asked....when we projected to clear the half Billion that NGC squander on TAR and the compressor project?

By clear you imply inflow /outflow.
But the maths is mathsing.

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/shell-a ... c2b5f35d81

The announcement was made by Energy Minister Franklin Khan who gave details to the Parliament on Monday following more a year of negotiations. He revealed that Shell agreed to pay government $2.5 billion by the end of 2019, the money to be paid in US to the sum of US $397 million.

Like the BPTT payment last year to government of $1 billion, Shell is making its payment but not admitting to cheating the country of large sums of revenue in transfer pricing......

The Energy Minister said between 2010 and 2014 it was estimated that the country lost up to US$6 billion annually

DotishFack, we NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN $500M IN THE HOLE made all the worse by JUHN Scarfy, Goebbels, GUY Smiley (RIP) and Enill, Loquan etc. not only knowing better, but failing to do better. Throw in an indemnity in the mix and you have the LFD RFD PNM incompetence, corruption and philosophy in a nutshell.
My God you're dense!
Are you arguing that transfer pricing washes away all sins

[Redman]

No dumbass.
You asked a narrow question....I answered it narrowly in the terms you asked.
You don't like the answer.
You get pissy.
You still are pissy.

[De Dragon]

No dumbass.
You asked a narrow question....I answered it narrowly in the terms you asked.
You don't like the answer.
You get pissy.
You still are pissy.

CacaFack Colos, "we still ahead" is the antithesis of quantify.
Your answer is dotish
I don't like dotish answers.
Your "pissy" response confirms your dotishness in respnse to your own dotish answer

[Redman]

You ask when we clear the expense....but don't like the facts?
Then bring some information to support your view
Maybe you can say when we clear the "half billion squander on the TAR and compression project"

So to answer your question based on the payments from She'll and BP being larger than the spend on TAR and compression...we are still ahead.
The maths mathsing.
Can you show otherwise?
Or you remain limited to your normal juvenile drivel?

[De Dragon]

You ask when we clear the expense....but don't like the facts?
Then bring some information to support your view
Maybe you can say when we clear the "half billion squander on the TAR and compression project"

So to answer your question based on the payments from She'll and BP being larger than the spend on TAR and compression...we are still ahead.
The maths mathsing.
Can you show otherwise?
Or you remain limited to your normal juvenile drivel?

Cyatulal, I asked about the $3.3B LOAN in relation to TAR/Compressor project
Also, this mysterious TP money doesn't seem to exist anywhere but in LFD RFD PNM liars like JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels and Guy Smiley (RIP) mind, because if there was a payment Jackarse JUHN and his goons would tout that far and wide as an achievement, and yes it would be one, but again, with these liars, I wait to see it materialize.
Oho, so it move from "small ting" to an "expense"
Typical LFD RFD PNM response, by next week it'll be petty cash...............

[Redman]

Now the question changes.

Cyatulal, I asked about the $3.3B LOAN in relation to TAR/Compressor project

You asked 3 distinct questions-I answered the first one as you know and responded to.

Also, this mysterious TP money doesn't seem to exist anywhere but in LFD RFD PNM liars like JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels and Guy Smiley (RIP) mind, because if there was a payment Jackarse JUHN and his goons would tout that far and wide as an achievement, and yes it would be one, but again, with these liars, I wait to see it materialize.

Curtis Williams the PNM stooge.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/shell-a ... c2b5f35d81

He revealed that Shell agreed to pay government $2.5 billion by the end of 2019, the money to be paid in US to the sum of US $397 million.

Like the BPTT payment last year to government of $1 billion, Shell is making its payment but not admitting to cheating the country of large sums of revenue in transfer pricing.

“The outcome of these phase 1 negotiations, with Shell, resulted in an agreement to pay the government approximately, US$397m to the end of 2019 and the parties are moving into phase 2 of the negotiations which surround the restructuring of Atlantic LNG,” Khan told the Parliament.

Funny you missed these articles so conveniently-yet the posted here multiple times,quoted by you as well.

Oho, so it move from "small ting" to an "expense"
Typical LFD RFD PNM response, by next week it'll be petty cash...............

You are the only one that drew any conclusion and insist on characterising it in some way-your first q was when we clearing the TAR and compression spend...its an expense- based on the above the payments from Shell/BP exceed it. Ignoring any of the increased take we getting as a result of the negotiations -delinking from HH to Euro/Asian NG pricing and Oil(I believe Brent).

A narrow question answered.

[sMASH]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting?

[widdyphuck]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting?

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Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

[sMASH]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting?

Screenshot_2021-11-07-17-59-28_1.jpg

Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

To be fair, from the time they announced they was GOING to do it, I called it as dead money.
Last feeding trough for his friendly contractors.

This was pure gross fiduciary misbehavior.

[zoom rader]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting?

Screenshot_2021-11-07-17-59-28_1.jpg

Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

To be fair, from the time they announced they was GOING to do it, I called it as dead money.
Last feeding trough for his friendly contractors.

This was pure gross fiduciary misbehavior.

Money well spent

Redman will say value for money

[sMASH]

i woudl jail his mc.

[Joshie23]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting? Screenshot_2021-11-07-17-59-28_1.jpg

Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

Feeling lazy..you got the source?

[The_Honourable]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting? Screenshot_2021-11-07-17-59-28_1.jpg

Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

Feeling lazy..you got the source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpppTkpbo0Y

Start from 42:26

[zoom rader]

i woudl jail his mc.

Redman will defend him

[Joshie23]

Is this new news. Did i miss sumting? Screenshot_2021-11-07-17-59-28_1.jpg

Yea he quietly slipped it in during the press conference.
The NGC train 1 investment is dead money.

Feeling lazy..you got the source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpppTkpbo0Y

Start from 42:26

You're a boss, thanks.

e-bonx.

[sMASH]

This one for red plastic.

I may be a simpleton, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out rowley et al did sheit.
And with NO valid reason to justify their actions, many reasons to NOT take those actions, and the other shareholders not taking those actions, I want to say that the actions of Keith and the directors of ngs was criminally negligent and possibly corrupt

[zoom rader]

^^^ Habit 7 took his money and left Tuner , he defended Train 1 along with the idiot Redman .

Very Few tuners took notice of this much less for the general red government idiots of a pubic

This is very criminal and it goes unnoticed

[sMASH]

people dont understand. and rowley counted on that. problem is, there are a few that do understand energy industry. but nobody in positions to stop it. and at those levels is executive. and they use corporate bs lingo to hide bs. and executive types are conditioned to accept corporate bs lingo as 'rational'.

jess because u say it corporate jargon, doesnt mean it makes sense.


and we didint even get reasons for them taking the decision. the most we got was from friday that they 'anticipated'. u would have reasons to base those 'anticipations' on. what are those reasons? none. there are none.... no legal upstanding ones, at least.
the real reason is, to funnel money to contractor padnahs for kickbacks. and to espouse a bit of political bravado to say they not letting the train die.
rowley have a phd, he know bout pressure and flow. he is not naive in this situation.

[Redman]

This one for red plastic.

I may be a simpleton, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out rowley et al did sheit.
And with NO valid reason to justify their actions, many reasons to NOT take those actions, and the other shareholders not taking those actions, I want to say that the actions of Keith and the directors of ngs was criminally negligent and possibly corrupt FB_IMG_1636478485126.jpgFB_IMG_1636478490399.jpgFB_IMG_1636478494034.jpg

Yes it looks like they were wrong and forced it just for politics.
If that's the case then by all means investigate.

No problem with that.

[sMASH]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

[widdyphuck]

BP and Shell Executives probably laughing at Rowley behind his back for going against them and Investing in train 1 when they had more facts than him that showed train 1 was dead.
PNM supporters to brain dead to comprehend the magnitude of this loss.
NGC board should be made to pay back every cent.

[sMASH]

i know i over posting again, but

after the internal BP board meeting minutes got leaked, the meeting that said that there wasnt goig to be gas. bp came out and said that the leak was a mistake. but they didnt say the info was fake, jus taht the details was not supposed to be made public

they not laffing, they all over the world, dealing with politicians all over the world, wheeling and dealing them to sign contracts. they know the type, they know exactly what growlers what doing. they know funding the whole TAR was just rouse to funnel money out the treasury/ngc. growlers knew, they understood what he was doing.
rowley knew what he was doing, bp knew what rowley was doing, rowley knew that bp knew what he was doing

but the politics and economy of a shithole country is not their concern. once their profit margin large, every ting else matters not.

[Redman]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

If it is that they made the decision for political reasons against the business info available then it's wrong

If they made the decisions in good faith and on what information they had then and it turned out wrong then that's different.

[sMASH]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

If it is that they made the decision for political reasons against the business info available then it's wrong

If they made the decisions in good faith and on what information they had then and it turned out wrong then that's different.

the road to hell is paved with good faith decisions. like emailgate. modis operandi.
*oops, i did it again*

[De Dragon]

BP and Shell Executives probably laughing at Rowley behind his back for going against them and Investing in train 1 when they had more facts than him that showed train 1 was dead.
PNM supporters to brain dead to comprehend the magnitude of this loss.
NGC board should be made to pay back every cent.

Especially when he shows up in his dotish scarf
Imagine being TOLD by the gas supplier, that there is NO but still plunging headlong into a hundreds of millions of dollars in debt It looks like the backlash/fallout wasn't anticipated though, because Goebbels and Enill still saying Train 1 negotiations in progress Only fully dunced like Red Colostomy Bag, Tunts7, Tokesy and the rest of the lame brain squad falling for that.

[The_Honourable]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

If it is that they made the decision for political reasons against the business info available then it's wrong

If they made the decisions in good faith and on what information they had then and it turned out wrong then that's different.

The wettest of all steupz!!!

[De Dragon]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

If it is that they made the decision for political reasons against the business info available then it's wrong

If they made the decisions in good faith and on what information they had then and it turned out wrong then that's different.

The wettest of all steupz!!!

Typical dotish brainwashed LFD RFD PNM acolyte answer

[sMASH]

*in shamfa not-the-mama voice*
NO BODY BELIEVE DAT!!!

[The_Honourable]

problem is, the pnm modis operandi : spend/waste the money out the treasury, apologize after the sheit hit the fan and u cant recoup the monies.

If it is that they made the decision for political reasons against the business info available then it's wrong

If they made the decisions in good faith and on what information they had then and it turned out wrong then that's different.

The wettest of all steupz!!!

Typical dotish brainwashed LFD RFD PNM acolyte answer

Hear nah... dey different yuh know.

So Redman why the board ask for personal indemnity? Simple, they know the decision made by Growlers was sheet and don't want to be part of that fan in case they get sued down the road. Just like the sheet decision he made playing big businessman during the houston energy negotiations in 2017. Ah tell allyuh already PNM can't do business.

Attempting to give red party a pass eh? UDFR with that good faith argument.

[Redman]

Lol
So not jumping up and down is trying to give them a pass?
Not wanting to hang everything PNM is giving a pass.

If they made the decision for crap reasons then jam them.
If not then don't.