Rottweiler Kills Child in Tacarigua

[VII]

Boy f@ck that dog !! Wtf you going on about..what happen you saw the lil picknee and feeling more for the dog now ? Man bullets for that dog or any attacking innocent and helpless people or other pets...

Sigh feeling it for that poor dog.

Really heartbreaking.

[VII]

More pom than pek maybe ?

You had some good experiences as an owner, but pompeks have been one of the top offenders chasing and biting kids etc..they're probably great for the owner but may be a bit more jealous territorial and aggressive than the average small dog..

You serious? I had a Pompek for 10 years and she was the bestest, bestest guard dog I ever had.

She also had a memory like an elephant. Let me share 3 stories with you.

1. When she was about 6 months old, we had 2 people (father and 18 year old son) doing some work
in the yard. One day, I came home and she was only barking at the son. Turns out the son had broken into our home and stole the money that we had put aside to pay them. The father had gone out to get somethings and left the son alone. This was the first and only time our home was broken into.

2. When she was about 1 1/2 years, my next door neighbour helped me put in a gate to keep her away from the front of the yard. For the next 8 1/2 years she gave that man hell anytime she saw him. Sometimes, he used to come out quietly in his back yard and she would bark and jump as if she wanted to climb the wall to get at him. That behaviour continued until she died.

3. Would you believe that same Pompek alerted me one morning, to a bandit who was in that same neighbour's home? She had a normal bark but around 2:30 a.m. I woke to the sound of a very different kind of bark and when I checked she was only looking at the neighbour's house. This was not the "jumping over the wall, I want to bite you", kind of bark. It was one bark every five seconds. I saw a window open in the front but thought that he had forgotten to close it. Given the time, I did not want to wake him. I rechecked before going back inside and the window was closed. Around 5:30 a.m. my neighbour called me to say that someone had broken into his home!!!

I had other dogs before but nothing at the level on which that Pompek operated and she was so loving. She always had a sense of who was family and who was not.

Just saw this and totally agree with your points, and yes Pompeks are among the worst..if they were big they would also be among the most deadly..not very smart dogs either..most small dogs aren't smart .

English Cocker Spaniels are among the smartest and
best small dogs you can get..

Retrievers, Labs, Huskies etc even Shepherds are the real deal in big family dogs but good sense must always prevail with any dog for the best results..

At the end of the day dogs are animals and we wrongly humanize them

This
We want or expect them to be something they are not or may not be

Some dogs are, my retriever won't hurt anybody, you can do what to what to him and he'll leave you alone.

My pompek on the other hand, I kinda fraid that dog.

Temperament and upbringing is important, but ultimately dogs (all dogs, even my Retriever) can have their buttons pushed to attack.

Children need to be taught how to interact with dogs and dog psychology needs to be taught. Putting dogs in kernels is cruel, not interacting with them and playing with them is cruel. Can you imagine how deranged a human who grows up in a cage not interacting with other humans would be?

[timelapse]

Boy f@ck that dog !! Wtf you going on about..what happen you saw the lil picknee and feeling more for the dog now ? Man bullets for that dog or any attacking innocent and helpless people or other pets...

Sigh feeling it for that poor dog.

Really heartbreaking.

So dan, the dog in his own yard and in his own kennel.One of the picknees opened the cage.Thats the dog's fault?
Anybody getting bitten in my yard by any one of my dogs better know what tf they doing, because you not supposed to be there when they are loose.

[bluefete]

That is an interesting point about the children and why I mentioned her having a sense of who was family.

My niece and nephew (twins) were about 4 years old when we got her. She never gave any problems with them. They used to go out in the yard and she would play with them like nothing. It was almost as if her protective instinct kicked in with them.

Territorial. Yes. She was very protective of our home. But she was also smart as hell. Don't ask me how, but she used to find, hunt and kill iguanas in our yard.

More pom than pek maybe ?

You had some good experiences as an owner, but pompeks have been one of the top offenders chasing and biting kids etc..they're probably great for the owner but may be a bit more jealous territorial and aggressive than the average small dog..

You serious? I had a Pompek for 10 years and she was the bestest, bestest guard dog I ever had.

She also had a memory like an elephant. Let me share 3 stories with you.

1. When she was about 6 months old, we had 2 people (father and 18 year old son) doing some work
in the yard. One day, I came home and she was only barking at the son. Turns out the son had broken into our home and stole the money that we had put aside to pay them. The father had gone out to get somethings and left the son alone. This was the first and only time our home was broken into.

2. When she was about 1 1/2 years, my next door neighbour helped me put in a gate to keep her away from the front of the yard. For the next 8 1/2 years she gave that man hell anytime she saw him. Sometimes, he used to come out quietly in his back yard and she would bark and jump as if she wanted to climb the wall to get at him. That behaviour continued until she died.

3. Would you believe that same Pompek alerted me one morning, to a bandit who was in that same neighbour's home? She had a normal bark but around 2:30 a.m. I woke to the sound of a very different kind of bark and when I checked she was only looking at the neighbour's house. This was not the "jumping over the wall, I want to bite you", kind of bark. It was one bark every five seconds. I saw a window open in the front but thought that he had forgotten to close it. Given the time, I did not want to wake him. I rechecked before going back inside and the window was closed. Around 5:30 a.m. my neighbour called me to say that someone had broken into his home!!!

I had other dogs before but nothing at the level on which that Pompek operated and she was so loving. She always had a sense of who was family and who was not.

Just saw this and totally agree with your points, and yes Pompeks are among the worst..if they were big they would also be among the most deadly..not very smart dogs either..most small dogs aren't smart .

English Cocker Spaniels are among the smartest and
best small dogs you can get..

Retrievers, Labs, Huskies etc even Shepherds are the real deal in big family dogs but good sense must always prevail with any dog for the best results..

At the end of the day dogs are animals and we wrongly humanize them

This
We want or expect them to be something they are not or may not be

Some dogs are, my retriever won't hurt anybody, you can do what to what to him and he'll leave you alone.

My pompek on the other hand, I kinda fraid that dog.

Temperament and upbringing is important, but ultimately dogs (all dogs, even my Retriever) can have their buttons pushed to attack.

Children need to be taught how to interact with dogs and dog psychology needs to be taught. Putting dogs in kernels is cruel, not interacting with them and playing with them is cruel. Can you imagine how deranged a human who grows up in a cage not interacting with other humans would be?

[Soul Collector]

All d nice rotts does look, I never once dared to put my hand remotely close to them to pet even though the owner reassured me that they're friendly. Nuff respect to those beasts oui.

Why were the children allowed anywhere near them? Negligence on that person's part whoever did. An innocent child and dog was lost, and for what? Carelessness? What a hard way to learn that lesson...

[88sins]

Broad blanket statements amd generalizations again huh?

Amazing you can rubbish real life events to your real life non events...why aren't other dogs killing kids and old ladies ? The old lady was killed by a rott a few years ago also..I'm certain there are other people who aren't experts and 'Pack Leaders' like yourself with dogs and those things don't happen .

Listen let me repeat it, Rotts especially are very unstable dogs and very unpredictable to the point of being predictable.. they can be triggered and when they do they can lose control more than most other big dogs..

You're an expert at nothing pal..and to the Rott's credit he wasn't there when my house got broken into, he was already relegated to the business compound . There were 2 Doberman, 2 Staffordshire Terriers and 2 Shepherds all in pairs in 3 separations, the thieves distracted the ones that were in the area they went in


I don't need guard dogs now I have more effective and deadly security tools at my disposal just over 20 years now, and more than one .

Our dogs are pets and only pets and damnn good loving and intelligent pets that we consider members of the family, in fact they're so good that my 19 y.o son makes over 30 grand a litter for himself when he breeds them, with great reviews, follow ups and expressions of gratitude from his clients and their families..

Carry on you expert and Dominant Pack Leading Alpha dog lol..NOT.. Later boy..

When people with no clue what they doing with an animal, take on the responsibility for that animal and intentionally remain clueless, it easier to blame the animal for it's failure than themselves for failing the animal and setting it up for failure.

For an assumed man posting on a web forum about a tragedy involving an animal and a child, your posts so far really have you looking like a lil b!+ch in heat.

Bray burro, bray to your hearts content

[88sins]

All d nice rotts does look, I never once dared to put my hand remotely close to them to pet even though the owner reassured me that they're friendly. Nuff respect to those beasts oui.

Why were the children allowed anywhere near them? Negligence on that person's part whoever did. An innocent child and dog was lost, and for what? Carelessness? What a hard way to learn that lesson...

Well there's that, and another thing.
I have no idea why, but for whatever reason I noticed a lot of kids like to tease dogs, particularly if the animal is very reactive. Tease the dog and run away, every time you pass by. The amount of children that I have had to stop and show them why what they doing is an absolutely terrible thing that can end very badly, not only for the dog, but for themselves as well, it not funny.

Doing that repeatedly can condition a dog to distrust children. Now, if a kid does that for 6 months straight every day twice a day, if by some means that dog gets out, the probability is very high that some child going to get damaged, if not the only doing the teasing another one. And that's a very bad thing, especially when dealing with dogs that can jump and climb. Malinois, Dobermans, and GSD's for example, can clear a 6' wall when they motivated.

People, teach your kids to leave dogs alone in their confined premises, and how to react and behave when they see a dog that they don't know.

[Soul Collector]

I have no idea why, but for whatever reason I noticed a lot of kids like to tease dogs, particularly if the animal is very reactive...
...

People, teach your kids to leave dogs alone in their confined premises, and how to react and behave when they see a dog that they don't know.

Kids teasing dogs like that is a real thing and it's not without potentially dire consequences as you said. That reminds me of when kids or even adults go tapping an aquarium glass to get the fish to scatter. It's fun for you but a different story for the fish. Imagine if they used to jump out and bite off yuh fackin hand nuh?

Some children need more training than some people's animals.

[Gem_in_i]

firetruck that. Them rott does trip off. If they focus in a target they doing anything they possibly can to firetruck it up.
Be it adult, child or other dog or cat.

I believe they does trip too. One we had attacked my mil. My husband threw himself over the dog to hold it down to stop it from attacking her and the dog kept going to attack her. Then a short while after the dog was normal with her. Had that dog since a puppy.

[VII]

Yeah blue dem pompeks can be different lol..


* Anyway enough of this discussion for me, I'm done here, its clear that most people agree that Rotts have serious attitude problems and are in fact very dangerous to the innocent and defenseless especially..

No regular dog ain't killing no toddler just like that, a bite maybe but not finishing off the kid like that no matter who's at fault, that wicked dog deserved to be put down and any dog I run into attacking any innocent defenseless person I will gladly put it down myself...

Secure your useless child and old lady killer dogs people..

Bye now..

[timelapse]

Yeah blue dem pompeks can be different lol..


* Anyway enough of this discussion for me, I'm done here, its clear that most people agree that Rotts have serious attitude problems and are in fact very dangerous to the innocent and defenseless especially..

No regular dog ain't killing no toddler just like that, a bite maybe but not finishing off the kid like that no matter who's at fault, that wicked dog deserved to be put down and any dog I run into attacking any innocent defenseless person I will gladly put it down myself...

Secure your useless child and old lady killer dogs people..

Bye now..

You realize they opened the kennel right? How much secure do you want it to be secured?

[88sins]

He want it secured with the kennel welded shut, watched 24 hrs a day by two armed guards, rigged with explosives on a pressure switch, up in a 1000 foot tall tower with no steps, surrounded by a moat filled with alligators and piranha.

& he might still find that's not enough, yuh kno, cuz "dem dog does trip orf"

[FrankChag]

The owners not at fault though.

They had their dog in their yard. And a kennel for the dog.

Is granny decide to invite guests by the people house when they not around

Not a fan of big breed dogs, but this is what happens when ketch ass people want stereotypical badman dogs and lack the proper surroundings to keep it.

Those owners should be charged with manslaughter, plain and simple.

Another reason to keep a fairly large hammer in your house.

Agreed.

I hear that, but somebody has to be held accountable, and it's not the dead child nor the mother.

[88sins]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

[ScHoolboySoloQ]

My heart goes out to the family. That child didn't get to live their life. Rest in Peace young one

Phone Surgeon a friend of mines was telling me something similar to that when the lady in D'abadie was mauled. The Rott was a loving dog until the other dog had pups then she began snatching the other dog's pups and eating them, she had to be put down. It was like she just trip off.

[FrankChag]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life.
You're not supposed to leave your firearm in an unlocked draw. Did you pay for your FUL??

[ruffneck_12]

Pretty funny how people think certain breeds of dogs are more prone to violence than others


But it's racist to point out those facts with humans even though it's basically the same goddamn concept

[timelapse]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life.
You're not supposed to leave your firearm in an unlocked draw. Did you pay for your FUL??

Dog was locked in its kennel

[88sins]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life.
You're not supposed to leave your firearm in an unlocked draw. Did you pay for your FUL??

Other than as a hat rack, what else do you use your head for? Butting down walls for a living? Cobweb storage? Echo chamber?
I gotta ask, cuz from your response you have me wondering if you really that slow or just trying to be sarcastic and failing miserably at it.

[Gladiator]

I got bitten by a very short dog with a very big head last Christmas.... mean little brat. His name is Rossi but I call him Rusty...

[Ripe Chenette]

He want it secured with the kennel welded shut, watched 24 hrs a day by two armed guards, rigged with explosives on a pressure switch, up in a 1000 foot tall tower with no steps, surrounded by a moat filled with alligators and piranha.

& he might still find that's not enough, yuh kno, cuz "dem dog does trip orf"

But is the people who have their dogs in a kennel most of it life, never train or show love to the dog and feed it once every other day kinda thing, yet when it snap is a whole set of talk about the breed unstable they does trip once they taste blood they go want more setta talk getting parroted by them and people who fraid said breeds.

[FrankChag]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life.
You're not supposed to leave your firearm in an unlocked draw. Did you pay for your FUL??

Other than as a hat rack, what else do you use your head for? Butting down walls for a living? Cobweb storage? Echo chamber?
I gotta ask, cuz from your response you have me wondering if you really that slow or just trying to be sarcastic and failing miserably at it.

I'm not clear on what's triggering you:
[1] Animals < Humans
[2] Dangerous Animals are the owners' responsibility, and owners should therefore be held accountable
[3] Guns should be locked up, and/or kept on your person at all times
[4] Something else


Edit: in case someone wants to argue "the caretaker, and not the owner/s", look up Agency and Torts in law, specifically vicarious liability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_liability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior ["Let the master answer..."]

[FrankChag]

Gaytrie Chanderpaul, of D'Abadie, who was killed in January (2021) by her pet rottweiler
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/pet-rot ... 8033a463b2

CMV, it's a pattern with this breed:

https://www.animals24-7.org/2021/09/06/why-rottweilers-are-as-deadly-as-pit-bulls/

• Since 1982, 769 Rottweilers have participated in fatal or disfiguring attacks on 385 children and 242 adults], killing 119 people (19% of their victims) and disfiguring 454.
• Among the 627 total victims, 54 (8.6%) escaped more serious injury.
  
• Both pit bulls and Rottweilers are about 10 times more likely to kill or disfigure someone than the average dog.
  
• Pit bulls, currently about 5.4% of the U.S. and Canadian dog population, account for 60% of all dog attack deaths. Rottweilers, 1.7% of the dog population, account for 12% of all dog attack deaths.
  
• Between them, pit bulls and Rottweilers, just 7.3% of the dog population combined, account for 72% of all human fatalities from dog attack.

le mal est fait....
How many more must die... ?

[MaxPower]

Boy f@ck that dog !! Wtf you going on about..what happen you saw the lil picknee and feeling more for the dog now ? Man bullets for that dog or any attacking innocent and helpless people or other pets...

Sigh feeling it for that poor dog.

Really heartbreaking.

The owners should be stoned to death.

F@ck what dog where?

Boi run your little kant from here with your animal cruelty supporting people.

It’s sufferers like allyuh that want animals and can’t afford or just don’t care for them. Untrained, improperly housed and STINK just like your livelihood.

[daring dragoon]

govt to blame not the granny.

get a bad dog to protect from criminals - it maul you child and child dead
replace the dog with a firearm - you child get a hold of the firearm and playing and it goes off and child dead
have no dog or firearm to protect your self from bandit and bandit break in rape your wife and daughter, beat you and son bad - child suffer from PTSD and takes own life and child dead.
leave TT go USA child joins gang and police get involved and child dead

either have no children or take a stand to force the powers that be to get a handle on crime, pass laws, make punishment more severe, make more punishment be LIFE in jail, make firearm crime LIFE in jail. get a strong AG and CJ and fix the courts process to fast track cases. rise up people. no crime means no need for dangerous dogs or guns.

[sam1978]

Boy f@ck that dog !! Wtf you going on about..what happen you saw the lil picknee and feeling more for the dog now ? Man bullets for that dog or any attacking innocent and helpless people or other pets...

Sigh feeling it for that poor dog.

Really heartbreaking.

The owners should be stoned to death.

F@ck what dog where?

Boi run your little kant from here with your animal cruelty supporting people.

It’s sufferers like allyuh that want animals and can’t afford or just don’t care for them. Untrained, improperly housed and STINK just like your livelihood.

No Max no! The owners were in Tobago , they are not responsible for what the caretaker did. The dog was on its owner’s premises in his kennel , he is not responsible. Granny made a wrong choice and then on top of that , left the children unsupervised.

[DevilZ]

My only question is why were those children left unsupervised with access to the animal in its kennel, when the one who suppose to be supervising them chose not to, even though she knew well enough the potential for danger and to lock up the dog?

Look at it this way.
You have a room with a loaded gun in a closed (not locked) drawer, and the children know it there, and they like to play cops and robbers, you gonna leave them to their own devices to play in that room & everything go be OK ent?

The animal paid for its actions with its life. That done, but it shouldn't be the end. The only person in the equation that is actually responsible is the one who was negligent, and hard luck for whoever don't like it, but that's the caretaker.

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life.
You're not supposed to leave your firearm in an unlocked draw. Did you pay for your FUL??

Other than as a hat rack, what else do you use your head for? Butting down walls for a living? Cobweb storage? Echo chamber?
I gotta ask, cuz from your response you have me wondering if you really that slow or just trying to be sarcastic and failing miserably at it.

I'm not clear on what's triggering you:
[1] Animals < Humans
[2] Dangerous Animals are the owners' responsibility, and owners should therefore be held accountable
[3] Guns should be locked up, and/or kept on your person at all times
[4] Something else


Edit: in case someone wants to argue "the caretaker, and not the owner/s", look up Agency and Torts in law, specifically vicarious liability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_liability
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior ["Let the master answer..."]

Sue the owners. Then the owners sue granny

[abducted]

A human's life is not equal to an animal's life, says who?

[88sins]

He want it secured with the kennel welded shut, watched 24 hrs a day by two armed guards, rigged with explosives on a pressure switch, up in a 1000 foot tall tower with no steps, surrounded by a moat filled with alligators and piranha.

& he might still find that's not enough, yuh kno, cuz "dem dog does trip orf"

But is the people who have their dogs in a kennel most of it life, never train or show love to the dog and feed it once every other day kinda thing, yet when it snap is a whole set of talk about the breed unstable they does trip once they taste blood they go want more setta talk getting parroted by them and people who fraid said breeds.

yuh kno, some ppl full ah shite till they can't even flush

cuz if that was truly what always happens. in my case my dogs should have eaten me about 15 years ago, cuz is raw meat with blood & all in everybody bowl from the time they eating solid food at 3-4 weeks till they dead of old age

[kerwinishere]

From these comments I see alot of you all just read headlines and then react. Bottom line is you were hired to maintain a house (and assuming the dog as well) for the owners, why did you bring anyone else onto private property?

The dog was not wrong and yes it is sad that a child died but granny is at fault for bringing "visitors" into the people home and the police trespassed into private property to kill an animal that was protecting its own territory.