New House Numbers and Zip Codes

[timelapse]

Isn't that the address for the Garbage can in front of Big Bird's nest?

[hustla_ambition101]

This inplay since Kamla days tho

[Ben_spanna]

i can understand the need for zipcodes, but why oh why would you want to change peoples house numbers? thats just uncalled for and unacceptable, is this going to be another "change out your old $100 bills" scenario?

Each day that passes im really becoming more and more aware of how f'king stupid our politicians are........

[widdyphuck]

i can understand the need for zipcodes, but why oh why would you want to change peoples house numbers? thats just uncalled for and unacceptable, is this going to be another "change out your old $100 bills" scenario?

Each day that passes im really becoming more and more aware of how f'king stupid our politicians are........

You mean TT POST Management.

[bluefete]

Reality is starting to hit home.

Allan Thomas

CALL FOR TOTAL PASSIVE RESISTANCE AGAINST TTPOST ADDRESS CHANGES !!!

Dear TT POST / DIEGO MARTIN REGIONAL CORPORATION,

I refer to the receipt of todays “TTPOST Address Improvement and postal code project”. Postcard.

My address’s have been apparently changed overnight from #6 and #7 Morne Coco Road to #28 and #26 Morne Coco Road West Moorings respectively. I understand that this is being rolled out by TT POST all over the country.

We are all appalled at the total ridiculousness of this change:

Does TT Post appreciate the effect of such changes to addresses. Not only to Utility bills but also to Mortgages, Deeds, Opening of Bank Accounts and secured loans where Utility bills, and Deeds are needed to be in agreement. The total chaos that is about to erupt in the country with this change ?

How in the mind of TT POST can a person purchasing a property with a deed of say 6 Morne Coco road give a financial institution the address of 28 Morne Coco Road ?

And how does one get a Wasa Clearance Certificate for 6 Morne coco road that is now 28 Morne Coco Road ?

How does one change T&TEC billing when a property has been sold and a deed is needed to effect change of address and owner which will have a completely different address to the address of the property ?

Pray tell, how does one pay Property Tax on 6 Morne Coco Road that is now 28 Morne Coco Road ?

How does a bank secure itself or foreclose on a property in arrears where the address no longer exist ?

Can you imagine the court time that will be taken up by this ?

Are banks, financial institutions, companies that sell on Hire Purchase now supposed to go around the whole country seeking Proof of Change of Address and is such proof a post card from TT POST ?

Has TTPost, begun to consider the confusion they are about to unleash in the country all for the sake of a Zip Code . Why fix a problem that did not exist with a solution that creates a HUGE PROBLEMS and MASSIVE CONFUSION for every Bank, Government Body, Mapping System, Tax System, Insurance Company in the country and person in the country ?

Does TT Post really think that everyone in the country is going to run out and buy new address numbers to change their addresses. or how much confusion you are now creating ? NO !!

In your post card you state that this is to improve the efficiency in the location of addresses by citizens , emergency services, utilities and other public and social services…. HOW, HOW, does this confusing change achieve this ?

How does Google Maps and Waze that people use daily update with these changes pray tell ?

Is TT Post updating this ?

How much mail is now going to go astray over the next few years due to noncompliance ?

How many Credit Cards are going to be delivered to wrong addresses ?

How many Pensioners cheques are going to be lost ?

Does every Property insurance now have to be changed to have a new address plus a lot number ?

What about Drivers License’s, do we now all rush to the License office to change the addresses, after all it’s the law?

Passport, does everyone now have to line back up on Fredrick Street to change their Passports again ?

Credit Cards and Debit cards ?

Are we all supposed to run around a neighborhood with each other’s mail as they are delivered to the wrong addresses ?

Tax refunds are going to which address, does TTPOST update the Inland Revenue Division ?

Will our private bank statements end up in someone else's mailbox while TT POST fiddles for years with this ?

The mind boggles at the inconceivable lack of forethought, foresight or intelligence that has gone into this absolute non sensical change. I think an immediate halt needs to be made to this and a good rethink given .

Adding Zipcodes to existing addresses is fine . That’s as simple as adding a barcode to a product . But to change physical addresses too….. oh no…… this is crazy thinking.

WE SHOULD ALL RESIST THIS !
WE MUST RESIST THIS !
WE WILL ALL RESIST THIS !
PASSIVE RESISTANCE WILL CHANGE THIS !
WE WILL NOT COMPLY !

This is an example of a good idea with a bad solution and terrible execution . TTPost needs to give this a complete rethink. I for one will not be changing my addresses on my properties. I WILL RESIST !!!

Allan G. Thomas


https://www.facebook.com/allan.thomas.731

[zoom rader]

^^^^ Dats wat u get from the red government. Total crazy

[ProtonPowder]

Tbh theres always been some measure of nonsense with addresses.

In San Fernando for instance, your land can have its lot#, you can have your house#, and sometimes your land was assessed on the house rate books of san fernando with a completely different number meant to be the house number. If anyone has their old yellow cards for house rate notices, they can see it.

It doesnt change anything.

[MaxPower]

I could only imagine the competency and efficiency of those responsible for making all the necessary changes.

Gotta love the Trini work ethic that will ensure a smooth process.

[widdyphuck]

This going and have real back and forth running to do from TT Post to various institutions. And with COVID-19 it will be hell to change all does things...

[paid_influencer]

I don't understand why TTPost can't make a publicly accessible online database that has the zip codes. up to now I have no idea what my zip code is.

the changing house numbers is a big lol

[bluefete]

I don't understand why TTPost can't make a publicly accessible online database that has the zip codes. up to now I have no idea what my zip code is.

the changing house numbers is a big lol

Don't worry. Unless you living on the beach, you will soon get a card in the mail with your new house number and zip code.

[Ben_spanna]

Changing someone’s house number has much more legal far reaching problems, if you have been given a change of address it now means : all your legal identifications will have to be changed legally.
passport,
Driver permit,
I’d cards
bank records.

How can anyone be so stupid to think they can implement changes like this without it having gone out for public discussions.

[Dohplaydat]

What would the issue be in using the same addresses? Yes addresses maybe not in numerical order on a street but the zipcode solves that issue.

I can see the anissue with people using LP numbers for an address. I've seen cases where two or three houses have the same LP#321 address. But I think perhaps special zip codes can be used for identifying those homes individually.

We don't need to use a 5 digit zip code, you can use 3 digits and 2 letters or some combo the create more than enough addresses

[zoom rader]

Changing someone’s house number has much more legal far reaching problems, if you have been given a change of address it now means : all your legal identifications will have to be changed legally.
passport,
Driver permit,
I’d cards
bank records.

How can anyone be so stupid to think they can implement changes like this without it having gone out for public discussions.

That's the way the Red government operates. They force things on citizens they start off by "testing the waters " and then pile it on when no one complains or protest.

Take bull

[elec2020]

Changing someone’s house number has much more legal far reaching problems, if you have been given a change of address it now means : all your legal identifications will have to be changed legally.
passport,
Driver permit,
I’d cards
bank records.

How can anyone be so stupid to think they can implement changes like this without it having gone out for public discussions.

only your DP. as your DP has your address. your PP and ID does not have an address on it.

[MG Man]

I gonna put a sign on my gate that says '5, formerly 17'
Also...so many fking zip codes for one tiny country
Whole mudda effing republic just needed a single zip code

[VexXx Dogg]

seems like a logistical nightmare.

[bluefete]

Changing someone’s house number has much more legal far reaching problems, if you have been given a change of address it now means : all your legal identifications will have to be changed legally.
passport,
Driver permit,
I’d cards
bank records.

How can anyone be so stupid to think they can implement changes like this without it having gone out for public discussions.

only your DP. as your DP has your address. your PP and ID does not have an address on it

If only it was so simple. WASA & TTEC bills have your address. That is stress to change even if you have legal papers.

Bank records ditto. Is one setta information you now have to give to them.

Your loan / mortgage / house deeds and many other things will need to be changed.

Is Growley and dem going to pay for that? The banks do nothing for free.

Anyway, it is early in this thread. Enough people have not been affected as yet. When they are, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[bluefete]

I gonna put a sign on my gate that says '5, formerly 17'
Also...so many fking zip codes for one tiny country
Whole mudda effing republic just needed a single zip code

I was thinking to do the same on mine.

[elec2020]

Changing someone’s house number has much more legal far reaching problems, if you have been given a change of address it now means : all your legal identifications will have to be changed legally.
passport,
Driver permit,
I’d cards
bank records.

How can anyone be so stupid to think they can implement changes like this without it having gone out for public discussions.

only your DP. as your DP has your address. your PP and ID does not have an address on it

If only it was so simple. WASA & TTEC bills have your address. That is stress to change even if you have legal papers.

Bank records ditto. Is one setta information you now have to give to them.

Your loan / mortgage / house deeds and many other things will need to be changed.

Is Growley and dem going to pay for that? The banks do nothing for free.

Anyway, it is early in this thread. Enough people have not been affected as yet. When they are, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I did not go into detail on what had to change. I just wanted to enlighten the commenter that they were incorrect in saying that id and passport had to be changed

[widdyphuck]

Where can you see your new address?

[Musical Doc]

For me it worked out well because my deed says Lot 1C even though my land is almost at the end of the street. So ttpost wasn't delivering any mail to my house when I built. Last year I called ttpost to get a mailing address and was given #273 which more accurately reflects my property location.

[ProtonPowder]

Most deeds have lot numbers. Some just have boundaries if you have a piece of land in the middle of nowhere with nothing but other people land around yours. Some deeds have the house number or LP number.

This TTpost change is in keeping with an international standard.
http://ttpost.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 2sided.pdf

Typical trinis, always griping that the system broken, then when somebody try to standardise the system, the same trinis complaining that they getting inconvenienced.

[h1tach1]

1. There should have been consultations with the residents as each area was being assessed. The name of my street was changed and I can not explain the logic. Also my number was changed and the number of houses on the street before me did not change. So where did we lose/gain a house?

2. The cards should have been handed out on the same day in the respective streets, so that all residents would be aware of the changes and could have their queries answered. Also, it would have been a good time to get everyone to change their house numbers on the street at the same time. The naturally assume all neighbours are on speaking terms and they will magically execute the new address plan.

If my number changes to a neighbour's number but they are ignoring the change, then there will be two houses with the same number. This can be really confusing, especially to a delivery person who is new to the area.
I suspect having the family name on the mail box should help in the interim, but still this is poorly executed. I will have to go with whatever the neighbours are doing. If they don't change, then I would not as to avoid confusion.

[adnj]

1. There should have been consultations with the residents as each area was being assessed. The name of my street was changed and I can not explain the logic. Also my number was changed and the number of houses on the street before me did not change. So where did we lose/gain a house?

2. The cards should have been handed out on the same day in the respective streets, so that all residents would be aware of the changes and could have their queries answered. Also, it would have been a good time to get everyone to change their house numbers on the street at the same time. The naturally assume all neighbours are on speaking terms and they will magically execute the new address plan.

If my number changes to a neighbour's number but they are ignoring the change, then there will be two houses with the same number. This can be really confusing, especially to a delivery person who is new to the area.
I suspect having the family name on the mail box should help in the interim, but still this is poorly executed. I will have to go with whatever the neighbours are doing. If they don't change, then I would not as to avoid confusion.

The international addressing standard calls for even numbers to be on one side of the street (typically north and west sides) and odd numbers to be on the opposite side of the street (typically south and east sides).

In North America numbers usually range about 1000 for each mile a street travels or about 100 addresses for each city block. Europe uses a similar system. The address given is dependent upon where the house is located on the street.

You can identify how far down a street an address is only by knowing the number.

Look for an address in most cities and you will appreciate the simplicity.

[Dohplaydat]

1. There should have been consultations with the residents as each area was being assessed. The name of my street was changed and I can not explain the logic. Also my number was changed and the number of houses on the street before me did not change. So where did we lose/gain a house?

2. The cards should have been handed out on the same day in the respective streets, so that all residents would be aware of the changes and could have their queries answered. Also, it would have been a good time to get everyone to change their house numbers on the street at the same time. The naturally assume all neighbours are on speaking terms and they will magically execute the new address plan.

If my number changes to a neighbour's number but they are ignoring the change, then there will be two houses with the same number. This can be really confusing, especially to a delivery person who is new to the area.
I suspect having the family name on the mail box should help in the interim, but still this is poorly executed. I will have to go with whatever the neighbours are doing. If they don't change, then I would not as to avoid confusion.

The international addressing standard calls for even numbers to be on one side of the street (typically north and west sides) and odd numbers to be on the opposite side of the street (typically south and east sides).

In North America numbers usually range about 1000 for each mile a street travels or about 100 addresses for each city block. Europe uses a similar system. The address given is dependent upon where the house is located on the street.

You can identify how far down a street an address is only by knowing the number.

Look for an address in most cities and you will appreciate the simplicity.

There isn't one international standard but many - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_numbering

ISO provides a good guideline here - https://www.iso.org/standard/64242.html

[bluefete]

Did you get a card as yet? If not, let me tell you what my card has that the link below does not have:

"You are asked to help us provide this service to you by informing your correspondents of your new postal address. You may wish to first inform your banker and utility companies."

Do you know how much stress it is to change anything with the bank or utility company in 2021?

Do you know that you will have to bring in much more than just that card from TT Post?

Most deeds have lot numbers. Some just have boundaries if you have a piece of land in the middle of nowhere with nothing but other people land around yours. Some deeds have the house number or LP number.

This TTpost change is in keeping with an international standard.
http://ttpost.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 2sided.pdf

Typical trinis, always griping that the system broken, then when somebody try to standardise the system, the same trinis complaining that they getting inconvenienced.

[88sins]

Most deeds have lot numbers. Some just have boundaries if you have a piece of land in the middle of nowhere with nothing but other people land around yours. Some deeds have the house number or LP number.

This TTpost change is in keeping with an international standard.
http://ttpost.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 2sided.pdf

Typical trinis, always griping that the system broken, then when somebody try to standardise the system, the same trinis complaining that they getting inconvenienced.

funny thing tho, as far as I can recall I don't remember hearing anything to that would indicate that the majority of the population had any problem with the postal service to this point. So if the people are now complaining, that means they were content with what they previously had. So what's the motivation to change what already works? With the changes, is TTPost going to automatically start efficient postal delivery to every house in the country, including those rural areas that never had their mail delivered before the change?


waiting patiently to see the organized chaos this gonna cause.

[Chimera]

lol.....

as it was.....i had two addresses for the same place

LP 597 (light pole)
or
EP 4 (electric pole)

get a letter this morning saying its now #682 lol

[Musical Doc]

Did you get a card as yet? If not, let me tell you what my card has that the link below does not have:

"You are asked to help us provide this service to you by informing your correspondents of your new postal address. You may wish to first inform your banker and utility companies."

Do you know how much stress it is to change anything with the bank or utility company in 2021?

Do you know that you will have to bring in much more than just that card from TT Post?

Most deeds have lot numbers. Some just have boundaries if you have a piece of land in the middle of nowhere with nothing but other people land around yours. Some deeds have the house number or LP number.

This TTpost change is in keeping with an international standard.
http://ttpost.net/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 2sided.pdf

Typical trinis, always griping that the system broken, then when somebody try to standardise the system, the same trinis complaining that they getting inconvenienced.

I didn't have much trouble changing mine. My flow was changed via phone call, my T&TEC was changed via my online account, as well as my credit union, scotiabank was just to carry in the ttpost card and it was changed within 10 mins. Only one I didn't get to change was Wasa