The 2020 General Election Thread (AUGUST 10TH)

[zoom rader]

Taxpayers now have to foot close to $10 million in damages to 20 former employees of the Security Intelligence Agency (SIA) who were dismissed by the Kamla Persad-­Bissessar regime.

The Industrial Court, in a ru­ling handed down on Wednesday, minced no words, with the panel describing the dismissals as “patently egregious” while, at the same time, slamming the Ministry of National Security under the former administration for not tendering a defence despite being ordered by the courts to do so.

The three-member judges’ panel was chaired by Sandra Ramparas and included members Gregory Rousseau and Melviwn Daniel.

Appearing for the Ministry of National Security and the Chief Personnel Officer were attorneys Anthony Bullock and Derrick Ali while the Communications Workers Union (CWU) represented the 20 fired employees.

Several of the fired 20 were named in a list forming part of a report dated October 15, 2010, submitted by Snr Supt of Police Suraj­deen Persad, then second in command at Special Branch at the time, to Persad-Bissessar.

They were determined to be have had “close links with the PNM and occupy senior and influential positions at the SIA”.

In his correspondence to Persad-Bissessar, Persad said, “the situation at the SIA warrants immediate attention. If sensitive information from that unit is allowed to be clandestinely sent to leading members of the PNM, it would undermine the legitimate constituted Government of T&T and ultimately lead to its downfall.”

He had recommended that the director of SIA, as well other persons, be relieved of their positions immediately, in order to safeguard the flow of sensitive information to the People’s National Movement (PNM) and other persons linked to SIA director Nigel Clement.

“Additionally, Persad had recommended that an interim management committee, headed by SIA’s Reshmi Ramnarine (technical operator) and Carlton Dennie, among others, be appointed “immediately to protect the assets of the State”.

Convenient ruse

The Industrial Court judges said having adduced all the evidence, they found the workers were summarily dismissed. “This employer failed miserably to support with cogent, compelling evidence what peculiar and special circumstances prevented them from adhering to the rules of natural justice, with respect to the lockout and the dismissals. Simply put, these dismissals were patently egregious,” the judgment said.

Additionally, the panel took issue with the National Security Ministry failing to follow the court’s orders, which they ignored “to file evidence and arguments in this matter”.

The panel said, “No reason was advanced as to why they failed to comply with the court’s orders. Instructively, attorney-at-law for the ministry Mr D Ali failed to appear on the 16th January, 2019, which was the last date of hearing. Neither the ministry nor Mr Ali communicated with the court to explain the reasons for their absence and the non-compliance with the court’s orders”.

The panel added that based on what was presented to the court, the Interception of Communication Act No. 11 of 2010 “was conveniently used as a ruse in the employer’s quest to justify the egregious nature of the workers’ dismissals”.

Describing the dismissals as “harsh, oppressive and contrary to all of the basic principles of good and proper Industrial Relations practices”, the court ordered the fired workers be compensated, with the vast majority of the damages ordered comprising “essentially, the salaries, gratuity and vacation leave the workers would have earned for the remainder of their fixed-term contracts”.

The court noted, in ordering the awards, consideration was given to: “the oppressive, harsh and egregious nature of the workers’ dismissal. (2) The salaries, gratuity and vacation leave they would have earned for the remaining duration of their contracts had they not been dismissed”.

The damages, which total $9,630,652, must be paid on or before September 15, 2020.

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Had these PNM spies remained we would have been in more danger.

Small change saved the country

Why post this non issuse in an election chead?

What you hoping to change voters minds?

[Kewell35]

Dude...My post was not directed to your comment....but to bluefete. I actually agree with your view....

Did you even look at the ad dummy...kwamie was driving a c class mercedes...

Just curious, what was the message? How was it racist?

ALL Kwame's living in poverty and begging for food and handouts.

Kamal is the saviour of the Kwame's.

Vote for Kamal and Kwame's will have a better life.

Went through that 2010-2015 - Never again. Most racist government ever. Did not even try to hide it.

So that make it racist you dumbass

oh sheit dise true LOL. Sorry about that one. You is not a dumbass then.

[bluefete]

LOL. It does not change the reality of what happened under that administration.

Dude...My post was not directed to your comment....but to bluefete. I actually agree with your view....

Did you even look at the ad dummy...kwamie was driving a c class mercedes...

Just curious, what was the message? How was it racist?

ALL Kwame's living in poverty and begging for food and handouts.

Kamal is the saviour of the Kwame's.

Vote for Kamal and Kwame's will have a better life.

Went through that 2010-2015 - Never again. Most racist government ever. Did not even try to hide it.

So that make it racist you dumbass

oh sheit dise true LOL. Sorry about that one. You is not a dumbass then.

[bluefete]

[zoom rader]

LOL. It does not change the reality of what happened under that administration.

Dude...My post was not directed to your comment....but to bluefete. I actually agree with your view....

Did you even look at the ad dummy...kwamie was driving a c class mercedes...

Just curious, what was the message? How was it racist?

ALL Kwame's living in poverty and begging for food and handouts.

Kamal is the saviour of the Kwame's.

Vote for Kamal and Kwame's will have a better life.

Went through that 2010-2015 - Never again. Most racist government ever. Did not even try to hide it.

So that make it racist you dumbass

oh sheit dise true LOL. Sorry about that one. You is not a dumbass then.

We was far better off than now.

[matr1x]

You trying to pull the "its racist!" Card now? Come nah, after year of attacking indo trinidadian? Man , go stick your head in a pile of sheit, or Marlene private parts. Same thing

[MaxPower]

If we support these type of messages from either side, we are going down the wrong road.

Trinidad needs to wake up and face the truth

Damn right!

[zoom rader]

You trying to pull the "its racist!" Card now? Come nah, after year of attacking indo trinidadian? Man , go stick your head in a pile of sheit, or Marlene private parts. Same thing

PNM have always attacked Indos in every which way they can.

They used racist kaiso tents for year and they did not complain.

The entire ad industry leaves Indos at the back. But PNM ppl don't complain about that.

A vid showing real life in Trinidad is causing these people to rail up.

PNM ppl live in box and fail to admit real life in Trini.

[zoom rader]

If we support these type of messages from either side, we are going down the wrong road.

Trinidad needs to wake up and face the truth

Damn right!

These same people that are attacking the ads they themselves are in that position. Out of a job and looking for help.

But all them see it as being racist.

Stink Trinis

[eliteauto]

If we support these type of messages from either side, we are going down the wrong road.

Trinidad needs to wake up and face the truth

Damn right!

100%, seems many are waking up finally

[sMASH]

i eh kno, trinidad have to be the only place where ethnic minority oppresses the ethnic majority, while not holding power.
*jackie chan frustration meme*

[zoom rader]

i eh kno, trinidad have to be the only place where ethnic minority oppresses the ethnic majority, while not holding power.
*jackie chan frustration meme*

Yeah but trini Afros are not the ethnic majority according last census.

[pugboy]

how them motorcade going in flooded areas ??

[sMASH]

i eh kno, trinidad have to be the only place where ethnic minority oppresses the ethnic majority, while not holding power.
*jackie chan frustration meme*

Yeah but trini Afros are not the ethnic majority according last census.

since all that doubles and patchoi money, indos dont make chirren by the coconut grop again. sumting wrong with that census, cause i coudl show u some house that could qualify for their own polling division, the way dem does replicate.

[sMASH]

how them motorcade going in flooded areas ??

swimmingly...
i wanted to kno what rowley really tinking to put elections in high rain period... he hadda kno them drain dem only dredge for show. they bound to get make out.

[mero]

how them motorcade going in flooded areas ??

swimmingly...
i wanted to kno what rowley really tinking to put elections in high rain period... he hadda kno them drain dem only dredge for show. they bound to get make out.

High rain period like the rainy season that's half of our year since the beginning of time?

When were the other GE's held?

I really want to know what u does be thinking

[sMASH]

petit careme, so people wouldnt have to wade tru waters to cast a ballot.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Well this thread bringing out the best and worst of the tuner society....carry on

[zoom rader]

Well this thread bringing out the best and worst of the tuner society....carry on

Men upset about the real life vid.

[VII]

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

[Dohplaydat]

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

Lol UNC is the lesser of the 2 evils by far.

[j.o.e]

Went out to buy some market items at a small spot on the main road in my area. Massive UNC music truck pass pelting out jerseys. My car parked up and about 10 drop on it.
I was glad people took them didn’t want to drive off and people see them falling in the road.

[Redman]

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

Lol UNC is the lesser of the 2 evils by far.

Tell us how you arrive there.
Let’s agree in front to ignore whatever ZR has to say.

[redmanjp]

A PNM motorcade of about 20-25 vehicles just passed my house alone including 3 maxis- so i cud imagine throughout the east-west corridor there are perhaps hundreds of vehicles- no wonder dey open d PBR.

btw i would say 40-60% of persons in those vehicles passing by me were not wearing masks (thankfully they were just passing through and not stopping to talk)

[shake d livin wake d dead]

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

Tomorrow night Id give my opinion as to who may when

[bluefete]

Thanks Zoom. You have a very good point here.

I remember when I came back to T&T around early 1990, Cro Cro was running rampant singing nasty things about indos in the tent.

I remember asking myself what happened between the time I left and came back.

People were lapping up the rubbish Cro Cro was singing and the judges were giving him 1st place in the calypso competitions.

I was very uncomfortable and amazed that people would accept that so easily. I stopped going to tents that fostered that racist rubbish.

Fast forward many years later and Cro Cro struggling to eat ah food (at least in the tents) because he bit the hands that fed him.

You trying to pull the "its racist!" Card now? Come nah, after year of attacking indo trinidadian? Man , go stick your head in a pile of sheit, or Marlene private parts. Same thing

PNM have always attacked Indos in every which way they can.

They used racist kaiso tents for year and they did not complain.

The entire ad industry leaves Indos at the back. But PNM ppl don't complain about that.

A vid showing real life in Trinidad is causing these people to rail up.

PNM ppl live in box and fail to admit real life in Trini.

[VII]

Was never a croco fan,seemed depraved and bitter to me,that wasnt music..croco and dem lost dey way..

Thanks Zoom. You have a very good point here.

I remember when I came back to T&T around early 1990, Cro Cro was running rampant singing nasty things about indos in the tent.

I remember asking myself what happened between the time I left and came back.

People were lapping up the rubbish Cro Cro was singing and the judges were giving him 1st place in the calypso competitions.

I was very uncomfortable and amazed that people would accept that so easily. I stopped going to tents that fostered that racist rubbish.

Fast forward many years later and Cro Cro struggling to eat ah food (at least in the tents) because he bit the hands that fed him.

You trying to pull the "its racist!" Card now? Come nah, after year of attacking indo trinidadian? Man , go stick your head in a pile of sheit, or Marlene private parts. Same thing

PNM have always attacked Indos in every which way they can.

They used racist kaiso tents for year and they did not complain.

The entire ad industry leaves Indos at the back. But PNM ppl don't complain about that.

A vid showing real life in Trinidad is causing these people to rail up.

PNM ppl live in box and fail to admit real life in Trini.

[VII]

Ok sensi..

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

Tomorrow night Id give my opinion as to who may when

[zoom rader]

PNM winning,talk done..

Lesser of 2 evils.

UNC rel evil and their true evil going to be exposed .

Stay tuned .

Lol UNC is the lesser of the 2 evils by far.

Tell us how you arrive there.
Let’s agree in front to ignore whatever ZR has to say.

I have made it very clear than non PNM parties should Let PNM win by default.

Let PNM get all 42 voting seats

[bluefete]

And the PNM continues to break the law.