COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[hydroep]

The CMO is every inch a diplomat but it looks like Stuarty setting the stage to blame him in case things go south. If he resigns it's probably because of shyte like this...

It’s not my call, says CMO Parasram
On allowing the ‘Barbados 33’ back into T&T...
Anna Ramdass

Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram says it is not his call to allow 33 Trini­dad and Tobago nationals who are stranded in Barbados to ­return home.

He said the decision lies squarely in the hands of the National Security Ministry.

And National Security Minister Stuart Young told the Sunday Express yesterday “the procedure with respect to the return of the 33 ­nationals is a priority and we are being guided by the advice of our medical experts”.

In a phone interview yesterday, Dr Parasram said: “The decision to bring them or not bring them is a national security decision. However, once they get here, my officers along with myself will decide whether they be quarantined in a State facility or at their homes.”

The CMO said this decision will be made on what information the Health Ministry gets from the ­individual patients.

“We will do a proper health questionnaire with all of them to determine basically where they went, what they did, how their interaction was post their quarantine in Barbados, and then we will determine if they should stay in a State facility for 14 days again or if they will be allowed home,” he said.

The Sunday Express pointed out to the CMO that Minister Stuart Young said last Friday he will forward to him the medical certificates from the Barbados Health Ministry clearing the 33 nationals from quarantine, and asked whether these certificates are adequate to allow entry.

The CMO responded that it was a basic form stating they are ­released from quarantine, adding that more detailed medical information will be required if and when they arrive in Trinidad.

“It’s a basic form from the Ministry of Health from Barbados. It does not state any information that they have given them a health clearance,” he said.

“The decision is not with me to allow them, but we will obviously have to do a detailed history with everybody just like what we did with the Balandra group when they actually got here, if and when they come. But the decision to actually allow them in will rest with Ministry of National Security,” he said.

The CMO said he will let the minister know the (quarantine) forms were received and “we will do our internal assessment if and when (the T&T nationals) arrive”.

He said the ministry would need to have detailed questionnaires filled.

“We don’t know what happened between the 7th (date of end of quarantine in Barbados) and now, we don’t know what kind of aircraft they going to come on. There’s a lot of public health questions that need to be answered before, because at the end of the day we need to ensure the population, the people that are here in Trinidad, are protected from getting another wave of COVID,” he said.

A matter of human rights

Asked if he recommended that the nationals be tested for COVID-19 in Barbados and this is why test kits were sent to that island, Parasram said he has to go back and check his records, but “I don’t remember ­giving any formal request”.

Parasram noted that this was a matter of human rights with a lot of legal issues involved, and reiterated: “The decision to bring someone in is not a Ministry of Health decision, it is up to the Ministry of National Security.”...

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/it-s-not-my-call-says-cmo-parasram/article_6eca38da-7c5a-11ea-855c-47e878da8434.html

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Shitlickers last night: "in january our medical experts told us the situation would be like how it is now, so we are identifying new places to house the infected".

This man admit they knew this thing was coming and refused to stop carnival and close the borders from then...come pnmites defend it now

[rexsmith]

insurance companies closed, garages closed. parts place and tyre shops closed.
if someone breaksdown or need tyre or emergency repairs/parts, what to do?

[Redman]

How is the agricultural community surviving?
Dairy farms,chicken farms etc

How much does a chicken farmer sell a chicken for on average?

[sMASH]

Shitlickers last night: "in january our medical experts told us the situation would be like how it is now, so we are identifying new places to house the infected".

This man admit they knew this thing was coming and refused to stop carnival and close the borders from then...come pnmites defend it now

watching news from new york, the term is 'field hospitals'.

that is like what they did in wuhan with the containers, but is like the war movies where they set up temporary structures, with ply board, galvanize, tents etc. we need to leave the established hospitals of Couva and Arima DEDICATED for icu cases.
then set up tent cities or galvanize/ply board cities for the those on vent. but not critical. and those need to be fairly near to dedicated hospitals, so they would be easy and fast to move. there is plenty of land around couva to set up. u can send bulldozerse to level out, corporations to drop materials, mobilize cepep to put up the tent cities. run out ttec, water, plastic sewerage tanks for waste collection, and kinda important, A/C.

and u replicate that at stadiums around the country, for those needing care, but not critical/severe/icu. as a measure of quarantine, if ur confirmed.

but that is worst case... we kinda going tru a best case.... unless it delayed and we getting a peak later.

[adnj]

7.8 billion people in the world, 1.7 million infected. 7,800,000,000 and 1,700,000. how can the WHO create all dis panic when it is not doing much damage to the world population as a whole. bunch ah propaganda to get everyone to take the poison they calling vaccine and for some reason to get everyone inside during resurrection of christ or when the asteroid passes month end. we just pawns in all this sheit.

.........

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

yeah but why the Caribbean doesn't have a situation like other countries where hospitals overloaded?

This shows how excellent the health care is in the Caribbean? or how good our genetics is or stay at home orders working? or the heat? or what?

[Redman]

They are getting Augustus Long activated.

What you all think the economic impact of this would be....or is already??

[sMASH]

7.8 billion people in the world, 1.7 million infected. 7,800,000,000 and 1,700,000. how can the WHO create all dis panic when it is not doing much damage to the world population as a whole. bunch ah propaganda to get everyone to take the poison they calling vaccine and for some reason to get everyone inside during resurrection of christ or when the asteroid passes month end. we just pawns in all this sheit.

the medical professionals have a duty to care, they just cant leave people to die.
the problem is, not the absolute numbers, but the rate at which people getting infected, its quite rapid. because of that plenty people getting it that need care, more people than the systems can handle at any time, so they getting overwhelmed.
and with so many persons at one time, the level of care might be lower as they getting spread thin over all the people. so, in a normal situation, a person might get the attention that might let them live, but with so many people, they might die instead.

just hope u or one of urs is not part of the target demographic, and add to the statistics.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

7.8 billion people in the world, 1.7 million infected. 7,800,000,000 and 1,700,000. how can the WHO create all dis panic when it is not doing much damage to the world population as a whole. bunch ah propaganda to get everyone to take the poison they calling vaccine and for some reason to get everyone inside during resurrection of christ or when the asteroid passes month end. we just pawns in all this sheit.

.........

the Flat Earthers and Anti Vaccers will just claim Covid 19 was invented by scientists anyways so he wasting he time with that quote

I have met and talked to a large number of people in my last job going around the country doing sales and I always used the opportunity to bring up conspiracy theories to see how stupid people truly are and about 25% of people in this country believe in the flat earth and a much larger percentage thinks vaccines are a conspiracy by the white man and the devil to kill out the world.

Majority of people with this thinking are church going people, I remember it had this PNM fella in work a sales driver who once told me vaccines are a conspiracy by the "white devil scientists" to weaken and wipe out the African race.

[pugboy]

what is stupid is that flat earth and vaccines are totally independent but yet the believers lap it up hand in hand
well they lap up anything conspiracy related

[shake d livin wake d dead]

They are getting Augustus Long activated.

What you all think the economic impact of this would be....or is already??

Chicken prices remain the same despite we being told by the poultry assoc they have a lot of chicken in stock and dont know what to do with it..They sited closures of restaurants as the cause. So why not offer chicken at lower prices to the population???? Nahhh they rather freeze it..

Economic impact in Trinidad(long story short)....every fireball thing going on.....IMF declared a very bad recession but in this sheithole nothing ever goes down

[Redman]

Yeah well I think we call bullsheeeeit on that articles content

We consume 1M chickens a week here in Tnt

AFAIK - the whole supply chain is Just IN Time delivery- so we would have about 10 weeks of chicken already in their growth cycle.
Just like what ever agricultural produce.
Dairy cows continue to produce and Meat Cows same thing.
In the US they already throwing away milk and slaughtering cows, etc to deal with the glut.

Our situation cant be far behind...

[sMASH]

They are getting Augustus Long activated.

What you all think the economic impact of this would be....or is already??

Chicken prices remain the same despite we being told by the poultry assoc they have a lot of chicken in stock and dont know what to do with it..They sited closures of restaurants as the cause. So why not offer chicken at lower prices to the population???? Nahhh they rather freeze it..

Economic impact in Trinidad(long story short)....every fireball thing going on.....IMF declared a very bad recession but in this sheithole nothing ever goes down

soooo, chicken is land now... lol.

give them a week or two again,, prices hadda drop. and people funds dropping too.

[No_Name]

How is the agricultural community surviving?
Dairy farms,chicken farms etc

How much does a chicken farmer sell a chicken for on average?

&

"Insurance companies closed, garages closed. parts place and tyre shops closed.
If someone breaksdown or need tyre or emergency repairs/parts, what to do?"

Well yuh see kind Sirs, PeeNeM ppls wouldn't have this problem, since it's just a case of TAKING IT from whoever has, d handout mentality passed down tru their generations nah...

[aaron17]

How is the agricultural community surviving?
Dairy farms,chicken farms etc

How much does a chicken farmer sell a chicken for on average?

&

"Insurance companies closed, garages closed. parts place and tyre shops closed.
If someone breaksdown or need tyre or emergency repairs/parts, what to do?"

Well yuh see kind Sirs, PeeNeM ppls wouldn't have this problem, since it's just a case of TAKING IT from whoever has, d handout mentality passed down tru their generations nah...

Maybe its only ur one closed.

[Redman]

How is the agricultural community surviving?
Dairy farms,chicken farms etc

How much does a chicken farmer sell a chicken for on average?

&

"Insurance companies closed, garages closed. parts place and tyre shops closed.
If someone breaksdown or need tyre or emergency repairs/parts, what to do?"

Well yuh see kind Sirs, PeeNeM ppls wouldn't have this problem, since it's just a case of TAKING IT from whoever has, d handout mentality passed down tru their generations nah...

With a post like that...it have a name for you.

[hydroep]

Never see Sando market so empty for a Sunday...about 70% of the stalls empty. Plenty of those who come out eh have top quality produce but the nice thing is it didn't take long to make a rounds to see what was available.

Police out and about, mainly jumbeeing the taxi drivers on High Street. JTA Carlton Center sparse. For those in the area who need to make a food run, now is the time...

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Prices of stuff yesterday up on my ends

$6 per lb - pumpkin
$13 per lb- baigan
$13 per lb- tomatoes
$60 per lb- ginger
$20 per lb- garlic

Prices starting to get ridiculous...and will keep going up..

Some fruits like pineapples and watermelons still at normal prices though

[aaron17]

Prices of stuff yesterday up on my ends

$6 per lb - pumpkin
$13 per lb- baigan
$13 per lb- tomatoes
$60 per lb- ginger
$20 per lb- garlic

Prices starting to get ridiculous...and will keep going up..

Some fruits like pineapples and watermelons still at normal prices though

Any word on the bhodi?

[K74T]

1 additional case as of this morning

[ST Auto]

113

[Dizzy28]

Unlike chickens we consume much more milk than we produce . Milk here is also predominantly tetra pack with long shelf lives.

Once Nestle operating dairy farmers shouldn't be impacted as much.

Yeah well I think we call bullsheeeeit on that articles content

We consume 1M chickens a week here in Tnt

AFAIK - the whole supply chain is Just IN Time delivery- so we would have about 10 weeks of chicken already in their growth cycle.
Just like what ever agricultural produce.
Dairy cows continue to produce and Meat Cows same thing.
In the US they already throwing away milk and slaughtering cows, etc to deal with the glut.

Our situation cant be far behind...

[eliteauto]

Prices of stuff yesterday up on my ends

$6 per lb - pumpkin
$13 per lb- baigan
$13 per lb- tomatoes
$60 per lb- ginger
$20 per lb- garlic

Prices starting to get ridiculous...and will keep going up..

Some fruits like pineapples and watermelons still at normal prices though

WTF last Tuesday pumpkin was $4 by all those roadside vendors, didn't buy, whilst driving up the PBR heading home I came across a guy with some on a table on the PBR itself, stopped and asked the price per pound and he was stumped as he was selling whole/half and just giving whatever price comes in his head ended up buying a whole one and when I got home and weighed it it worked out to be $2.76/lb. Got tomatoes at $8, ginger at $30 but I grow my own garlic was a bag for $10 so prices have jumped up a lot between Tuesday and today, no wonder the garden shops are busy everyone looking to grow their own

[Chimera]

Pumpkin is like $3 to $4 a lb wholesale. Like if you buying 10000 pounds from a farmer.

[Redman]

Food for thought

https://newsroom.gy/2020/04/11/200-guyanese-
on-cruise-ships-and-thousands-in-ny-want-to-return-home/

[Dizzy28]

^"Guyana initially closed its two international airports on March 19 to all incoming flights until April 2 but subsequently extended that closure to May 1.

During the closure, the Government granted permission for a chartered flight from Barbados to land at the Eugene Correia Airport at Ogle, East Coast Demerara on March 25 with Guyanese passengers.

There were 14 adults and three children on the flight. Some of them were students while others were on vacation. They were placed in quarantined and subsequently released."

Medically less resourced Guyana allowed a flight with their citizens return after closing their airports but we have lost all humanity as a country for ours??

[MaxPower]

^ We in a pandemic though

[paid_influencer]

'pending epidemiologic investigation'...its not over yet.

[Dizzy28]

They were not?

^ We in a pandemic though