COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[De Dragon]

Well if hinds show up today
We can be sure ferris gonna be there soon as he like to bump he gum too

With his emergency powers to change legislation, his shirt might burst open tomorrow with chest guffing up

[adnj]

No, let's be as realistic as possible.

1. The virus spreads to tens of thousands in 2 months. Eventually by end of the year literally everyone gets it.
2, ~1000-3000 people die
3. Health systems are maxed out or months, lots of others die as a consequence of medical staff and equipment being unavailable
4. Eventually, by Aug/Sept, things get easier, less and less people are being infected and deaths decrease
5. Simultaneously, the world recovers as well
6. We go quickly from a recession to a mini-boom around Sept as things normalize
7. Boom gets bigger as people shop or Christmas
8. World recovers and Bitcoin goes to $20K (crosses fingers)

What do we learn?
1. Many governments had money to prop up the economy.
2. It shows 6 months of 'less corruption' was enough funds to 'help' us deal with this
3. Pumping money into the system to prop up airlines, and many other sectors was necessary but unfair to many other businesses but at least the recession is over
4. Corona will still be around but most of world would have achieved herd immunity


Btw if Corona was worst, if the mortality rate was even 5%, then we'd be in for some seriously scary times. As it stands now, I do agree with one thing. It is 'mild' in comparison to MERS, SARs etc.

Also, I strongly suspect I have Covid-19 right now, as well as my wife, sister, neighbor. I was refused testing on account of:
1. No travel history in the last 14 days
2. Symptoms all of us are exhibiting are mild

I was told to self-quarantine and call and give an update if any of our symptoms get worse.

Now I do understand their reasoning, my partner is one of the people working on this in Mt Hope. But since the beginning of this week, it is very much possible I could have gotten it from one of the 9 (or one of the many who haven't been tested yet).

Secondly, my wife and I have taken the week off and self-quarantined as advised. My sister and neighbor have not and whatever they have would have spread to a minimum of 3-6 people so far.

Mistakes are being made and we are being fooled by Rowley into thinking they have a handle on this situation.

If only we had a good opposition who was on top of things.

depends on where you are, since more than a couple countries now have death tolls in the 6.9-7% range & ^

what surprises me is India & many nations on the African continent tho. Low infection rate & mortality rates are very low. Time will tell if this is actually so

Remember that India and many African countries are not as technologically advanced as Europe and America. As such they may not be testing as much / many individuals will go untested. This will obviously reflect low statistics by international standards. I highly suspect given that India is only second to China in terms of population density as well as the fact that they have already confirmed cases there, that the virus is running wild there already. But stats or no stats, people will drop and the world will notice (if reported / exposed that is and no cover up like China takes place).

India has a population density that is perhaps three times that of China.

Bangladesh has a population density that is nearly three times that of India.

India and Bangladesh also have some of the most densely populated cities in the world.

[rexsmith]

what is the best part time work someone can do now that covid 19 is here and alot of business is closed for weeks or possibly months?

[redmanjp]

they closing casinos....

and why not? that doh count as a mass gathering of more than 10 ppl?

everything hadda shutdown except essential services during this coronapocalypse

[Slartibartfast]

what is the best part time work someone can do now that covid 19 is here and alot of business is closed for weeks or possibly months?

camgirl

[pugboy]

Oh lawd

Well if hinds show up today
We can be sure ferris gonna be there soon as he like to bump he gum too

With his emergency powers to change legislation, his shirt might burst open tomorrow with chest guffing up

[mamoo_pagal]

what is the best part time work someone can do now that covid 19 is here and alot of business is closed for weeks or possibly months?

camgirl

Dedz

[pugboy]

Those places dont have the resources to test ppl over there, those ppl likely don’t or ever been to a doctor either.
But who knows maybe because in those slums they probably don’t have exposure to persons who travel and importing virus.

Where I am worried is in Italy and France, they are the migrant capital of the world.
Numerous hidden refugee camps.

India has a population density that is perhaps three times that of China.

Bangladesh has a population density that is nearly three times that of India.

India and Bangladesh also have some of the most densely populated cities in the world.

[mamoo_pagal]

Everybody forgot Bangladesh.....it could be devastating for a country like that.

No, let's be as realistic as possible.

1. The virus spreads to tens of thousands in 2 months. Eventually by end of the year literally everyone gets it.
2, ~1000-3000 people die
3. Health systems are maxed out or months, lots of others die as a consequence of medical staff and equipment being unavailable
4. Eventually, by Aug/Sept, things get easier, less and less people are being infected and deaths decrease
5. Simultaneously, the world recovers as well
6. We go quickly from a recession to a mini-boom around Sept as things normalize
7. Boom gets bigger as people shop or Christmas
8. World recovers and Bitcoin goes to $20K (crosses fingers)

What do we learn?
1. Many governments had money to prop up the economy.
2. It shows 6 months of 'less corruption' was enough funds to 'help' us deal with this
3. Pumping money into the system to prop up airlines, and many other sectors was necessary but unfair to many other businesses but at least the recession is over
4. Corona will still be around but most of world would have achieved herd immunity


Btw if Corona was worst, if the mortality rate was even 5%, then we'd be in for some seriously scary times. As it stands now, I do agree with one thing. It is 'mild' in comparison to MERS, SARs etc.

Also, I strongly suspect I have Covid-19 right now, as well as my wife, sister, neighbor. I was refused testing on account of:
1. No travel history in the last 14 days
2. Symptoms all of us are exhibiting are mild

I was told to self-quarantine and call and give an update if any of our symptoms get worse.

Now I do understand their reasoning, my partner is one of the people working on this in Mt Hope. But since the beginning of this week, it is very much possible I could have gotten it from one of the 9 (or one of the many who haven't been tested yet).

Secondly, my wife and I have taken the week off and self-quarantined as advised. My sister and neighbor have not and whatever they have would have spread to a minimum of 3-6 people so far.

Mistakes are being made and we are being fooled by Rowley into thinking they have a handle on this situation.

If only we had a good opposition who was on top of things.

depends on where you are, since more than a couple countries now have death tolls in the 6.9-7% range & ^

what surprises me is India & many nations on the African continent tho. Low infection rate & mortality rates are very low. Time will tell if this is actually so

Remember that India and many African countries are not as technologically advanced as Europe and America. As such they may not be testing as much / many individuals will go untested. This will obviously reflect low statistics by international standards. I highly suspect given that India is only second to China in terms of population density as well as the fact that they have already confirmed cases there, that the virus is running wild there already. But stats or no stats, people will drop and the world will notice (if reported / exposed that is and no cover up like China takes place).

India has a population density that is perhaps three times that of China.

Bangladesh has a population density that is nearly three times that of India.

India and Bangladesh also have some of the most densely populated cities in the world.

[Devourment]

Also, it's just a matter of time it reaches critical proportions to explode in those countries. They are not safe.

[Miktay]

A game changer. The idea....if this works...people can be cleared to resume work and normal life...

Ostensibly u will need 2 carry your Corona virus antibody papers in public at all times...

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain is in talks to buy a coronavirus antibody test that could be a game changer if it works and already scientists are making progress in finding medicines that can fight the disease, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Thursday.

“We are in negotiations today to buy a so-called antibody test, as simple as a pregnancy test, that can tell whether you have had the disease,” Johnson told a news conference.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-healt ... mesticNews

[K74T]

WRT Cabo Star incident:

[bluefete]

Damn. This was a difficult read.

The New York Times
Coronavirus Ravages 7 Members of a Single Family, Killing 4
Tracey Tully
The New York TimesMarch 19, 2020, 9:03 AM GMT-4

Grace Fusco — mother of 11, grandmother of 27 — would sit in the same pew at church each Sunday, surrounded by nearly a dozen members of her sprawling Italian American family. Sunday dinners drew an even larger crowd to her home in central New Jersey.

Now, her close-knit clan is united anew by unspeakable grief: Fusco, 73, died Wednesday night after contracting the coronavirus — hours after her son died from the virus and five days after her daughter’s death, a relative said.

Four other children who contracted coronavirus remain hospitalized, three of them in critical condition, the relative, Roseann Paradiso Fodera, said.

Fusco’s eldest child, Rita Fusco-Jackson, 55, of Freehold, New Jersey, died Friday; after her death, the family learned she had contracted the virus. Fusco’s eldest son, Carmine Fusco, of Bath, Pennsylvania, died Wednesday, said Paradiso Fodera, the family’s lawyer, who is Grace Fusco’s cousin and is serving as a spokeswoman.

Fusco, of Freehold, died after spending Wednesday “gravely ill” and breathing with help from a ventilator, unaware that her two oldest children had died, Paradiso Fodera said.

Nearly 20 other relatives are quarantined at their homes, praying in isolated solitude, unable to mourn their deep collective loss together.

“If they’re not on a respirator, they’re quarantined,” Paradiso Fodera said.

“It is so pitiful,” she added. “They can’t even mourn the way you would.”

As of Wednesday afternoon, five New Jersey residents had died after contracting the virus, which has infected at least 427 people statewide. Nationwide, at least 7,047 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, and at least 121 have died, according to a New York Times database.

But the virus’ devastating toll on a single family is considered as rare as it is perplexing.

“They’re young, and they don’t have any underlying conditions,” Paradiso Fodera said.

Fusco and four of her children were being treated at CentraState Medical Center in Freehold, about an hour south of Manhattan, relatives said. Carmine Fusco died at a Pennsylvania hospital near his home, Paradiso Fodera said.

The family has deep ties to the horse-racing industry near Freehold Raceway. Some trained horses. Others raced them. The children’s father, Vincenzo Fusco, did both, according to his obituary.

A person who had contact with a man who died in New Jersey on March 10, becoming the state’s first coronavirus-related fatality, had attended a recent Fusco family gathering, the state’s health commissioner, Judith Persichilli, has said.

The first New Jersey man to die has been identified by a close friend and the harness track where he worked, Yonkers Raceway, as John Brennan.

Paradiso Fodera said the gathering was a routine Tuesday dinner.

“A party to most people was a regular dinner to them,” she said before counting names on a family tree that listed 27 grandchildren.

The gathering is believed to be the source of the virus, and information about the number of people infected there led to a new intensity in Persichilli’s warnings over the weekend against even small get-togethers with friends or relatives.

“I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to take personal responsibility and to avoid even small gatherings,” Persichilli said during a press briefing Sunday.

Dr. James Matera, chief medical officer of CentraState Medical Center, said he had discussed the uniqueness of treating so many members of the same family with the state’s health commissioner and officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

He said officials are in the process of evaluating the patients’ medical histories to look for clues about why the virus might have progressed so rapidly and been so potent.

“I don’t know if it’s a strain thing,” Matera said. “I would consider these particular people to be unusual.”

Fusco-Jackson died a day before her test for coronavirus came back positive Saturday evening.

Her relatives are urging officials at CentraState or the CDC to conduct an autopsy to learn more about how the virus killed Fusco-Jackson. She had been in good health, they said, and taught religious education classes at the Roman Catholic Church where many members of the large extended family worshipped, St. Robert Bellarmine in Freehold.

Fusco-Jackson, a mother of three, also sang in the choir, coordinated parish weddings and volunteered in the church’s gardening club, the pastor, Monsignor Sam Sirianni, said.

She had attended a retreat for students preparing for the sacrament of confirmation Feb. 29, but her contact with participants was minimal, the church said on Facebook.

“I can’t tell you enough about her,” Sirianni said Wednesday in an interview. “She was always willing to assist and to lead.”

The family was among the founding members of the church, he added.

“Until this virus came, they were still the family that would gather for Sunday dinner,” Sirianni said. “If grandma was there, everybody came.”

The church has since been deep-cleaned, and Sirianni, like all members of the parish staff, is operating under quarantine based on possible exposure.

“It means I turn to the Lord even more,” Sirianni said. “What came to mind last week was. ‘Lord save your people.’ And that’s been one of my mantras when I go to pray.”

He said he was struggling to come to terms with being unable to visit the sick at CentraState.

In addition to those who have tested positive for coronavirus at CentraState, a mid-size hospital that operates as a nonprofit, 27 community members who have been tested for the virus but are awaiting results are hospitalized under observation, Matera said Wednesday.

He said the lengthy turnaround time for test results leaves patients in the dark and burdens the hospital’s limited resources. Patients who might ultimately test negative for coronavirus, and be healthy enough to leave the hospital, are instead being kept in isolation.

If tests were returned more quickly, more patients could be discharged.

“That opens up beds,” Matera said. “It lowers the anxiety of the staff.”

Fusco-Jackson’s relatives also believe that speedier test results could have made a difference in her care.

“They didn’t treat her as a confirmed case because everything is so delayed,” Paradiso Fodera said. “It’s a big bureaucracy. The testing result time is important.”

On Thursday, another child who had contracted the virus, Vincent Fusco, died, the relative, Roseann Paradiso Fodera, said.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

© 2020 The New York Times Company

Grace Fusco — mother of 11, grandmother of 27 — would sit in the same pew at church each Sunday, surrounded by nearly a dozen members of her sprawling Italian American family. Sunday dinners drew an even larger crowd to her home in central New Jersey.

Now, her close-knit clan is united anew by unspeakable grief: Fusco, 73, died Wednesday night after contracting the coronavirus — hours after her son died from the virus and five days after her daughter’s death, a relative said.

Four other children who contracted coronavirus remain hospitalized, three of them in critical condition, the relative, Roseann Paradiso Fodera, said.

Fusco’s eldest child, Rita Fusco-Jackson, 55, of Freehold, New Jersey, died Friday; after her death, the family learned she had contracted the virus. Fusco’s eldest son, Carmine Fusco, of Bath, Pennsylvania, died Wednesday, said Paradiso Fodera, the family’s lawyer, who is Grace Fusco’s cousin and is serving as a spokeswoman.

Fusco, of Freehold, died after spending Wednesday “gravely ill” and breathing with help from a ventilator, unaware that her two oldest children had died, Paradiso Fodera said.

Nearly 20 other relatives are quarantined at their homes, praying in isolated solitude, unable to mourn their deep collective loss together.

“If they’re not on a respirator, they’re quarantined,” Paradiso Fodera said.

“It is so pitiful,” she added. “They can’t even mourn the way you would.”

As of Wednesday afternoon, five New Jersey residents had died after contracting the virus, which has infected at least 427 people statewide. Nationwide, at least 7,047 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, and at least 121 have died, according to a New York Times database.

But the virus’ devastating toll on a single family is considered as rare as it is perplexing.

“They’re young, and they don’t have any underlying conditions,” Paradiso Fodera said.

Fusco and four of her children were being treated at CentraState Medical Center in Freehold, about an hour south of Manhattan, relatives said. Carmine Fusco died at a Pennsylvania hospital near his home, Paradiso Fodera said.

The family has deep ties to the horse-racing industry near Freehold Raceway. Some trained horses. Others raced them. The children’s father, Vincenzo Fusco, did both, according to his obituary.

A person who had contact with a man who died in New Jersey on March 10, becoming the state’s first coronavirus-related fatality, had attended a recent Fusco family gathering, the state’s health commissioner, Judith Persichilli, has said.

The first New Jersey man to die has been identified by a close friend and the harness track where he worked, Yonkers Raceway, as John Brennan.

Paradiso Fodera said the gathering was a routine Tuesday dinner.

“A party to most people was a regular dinner to them,” she said before counting names on a family tree that listed 27 grandchildren.

The gathering is believed to be the source of the virus, and information about the number of people infected there led to a new intensity in Persichilli’s warnings over the weekend against even small get-togethers with friends or relatives.

“I cannot emphasize enough how important it is to take personal responsibility and to avoid even small gatherings,” Persichilli said during a press briefing Sunday.

Dr. James Matera, chief medical officer of CentraState Medical Center, said he had discussed the uniqueness of treating so many members of the same family with the state’s health commissioner and officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

He said officials are in the process of evaluating the patients’ medical histories to look for clues about why the virus might have progressed so rapidly and been so potent.

“I don’t know if it’s a strain thing,” Matera said. “I would consider these particular people to be unusual.”

Fusco-Jackson died a day before her test for coronavirus came back positive Saturday evening.

Her relatives are urging officials at CentraState or the CDC to conduct an autopsy to learn more about how the virus killed Fusco-Jackson. She had been in good health, they said, and taught religious education classes at the Roman Catholic Church where many members of the large extended family worshipped, St. Robert Bellarmine in Freehold.

Fusco-Jackson, a mother of three, also sang in the choir, coordinated parish weddings and volunteered in the church’s gardening club, the pastor, Monsignor Sam Sirianni, said.

She had attended a retreat for students preparing for the sacrament of confirmation Feb. 29, but her contact with participants was minimal, the church said on Facebook.

“I can’t tell you enough about her,” Sirianni said Wednesday in an interview. “She was always willing to assist and to lead.”

The family was among the founding members of the church, he added.

“Until this virus came, they were still the family that would gather for Sunday dinner,” Sirianni said. “If grandma was there, everybody came.”

The church has since been deep-cleaned, and Sirianni, like all members of the parish staff, is operating under quarantine based on possible exposure.

“It means I turn to the Lord even more,” Sirianni said. “What came to mind last week was. ‘Lord save your people.’ And that’s been one of my mantras when I go to pray.”

He said he was struggling to come to terms with being unable to visit the sick at CentraState.

In addition to those who have tested positive for coronavirus at CentraState, a mid-size hospital that operates as a nonprofit, 27 community members who have been tested for the virus but are awaiting results are hospitalized under observation, Matera said Wednesday.

He said the lengthy turnaround time for test results leaves patients in the dark and burdens the hospital’s limited resources. Patients who might ultimately test negative for coronavirus, and be healthy enough to leave the hospital, are instead being kept in isolation.

If tests were returned more quickly, more patients could be discharged.

“That opens up beds,” Matera said. “It lowers the anxiety of the staff.”

Fusco-Jackson’s relatives also believe that speedier test results could have made a difference in her care.

“They didn’t treat her as a confirmed case because everything is so delayed,” Paradiso Fodera said. “It’s a big bureaucracy. The testing result time is important.”

On Thursday, another child who had contracted the virus, Vincent Fusco, died, the relative, Roseann Paradiso Fodera, said.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

© 2020 The New York Times Company

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus- ... 00381.html

[Rovin]

[maj. tom]

ah yes, the comic relief of the ignorant and uneducated in times of crisis.

[Coppershot]

Please note, this information/allegations are not mine. But due to the public health risk i am posting here:

I heard on radio that there is business man from Fyzabad that came in from the US on Sunday. He was told to be in self isolation but is doing the opposite and up and about. He allegedly is not showing any symptoms but is still is not self isolating himself.
Apparently several different callers, called in to complain about it.

[hydroep]

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

[K74T]

[Gladiator]

BTW... How safe is into eat outside food? What are the chances of contracting it through food if the handler or cook is infected?

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

[Devourment]

BTW... How safe is into eat outside food? What are the chances of contracting it through food if the handler or cook is infected?

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

Low once they not actually touching, coughing on the food. But on the bag and box etc it can be transmitted.

[hydroep]

BTW... How safe is into eat outside food? What are the chances of contracting it through food if the handler or cook is infected?

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

Low once they not actually touching, coughing on the food. But on the bag and box etc it can be transmitted.

It's a risk yes.

KFC (at least the one I went to) has the staff wearing gloves and the food was kept warm under heat lamps. The only other thing to probably take a chance with is establishments/ vendors where the food is made to order, none of that sweating in glass cabinet chupidness this rounds...

[pugboy]

handling of cash and receiving dirty change is risky

[Gladiator]

Also, I strongly suspect I have Covid-19 right now, as well as my wife, sister, neighbor. I was refused testing on account of:
1. No travel history in the last 14 days
2. Symptoms all of us are exhibiting are mild

I was told to self-quarantine and call and give an update if any of our symptoms get worse.



If only we had a good opposition who was on top of things.

[/quote]

You is not the same man that was boasting to everybody that you jump up in 10 fete and knock glass with all the yankee that come down for carnival and that you feeling just fine...

Oh the irony!!!

The death rate computing closer to 4.1% now eh...

[Nightshield]

That Legal Notice/Ordinance they released about the bars/dining/clubs....

Is this law or these things being debated?

[Gladiator]

BTW... How safe is into eat outside food? What are the chances of contracting it through food if the handler or cook is infected?

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

Low once they not actually touching, coughing on the food. But on the bag and box etc it can be transmitted.

It's a risk yes.

KFC (at least the one I went to) has the staff wearing gloves and the food was kept warm under heat lamps. The only other thing to probably take a chance with is establishments/ vendors where the food is made to order, none of that sweating in glass cabinet chupidness this rounds...

How about nuking it in the microwave for a 2 mins before eating it.... would that make it safe?

[sMASH]

IMG-20200319-WA0032.jpeg

if they want to be accurate, they hadda change that name

[adnj]

Those places dont have the resources to test ppl over there, those ppl likely don’t or ever been to a doctor either.
But who knows maybe because in those slums they probably don’t have exposure to persons who travel and importing virus.

Where I am worried is in Italy and France, they are the migrant capital of the world.
Numerous hidden refugee camps.

India has a population density that is perhaps three times that of China.

Bangladesh has a population density that is nearly three times that of India.

India and Bangladesh also have some of the most densely populated cities in the world.

You're may be right. If you look at the number of hospital beds for every 10,000 people:

India 7
Bangladesh 8
China 42

[URL]https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.BEDS.ZS
[/URL]

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Angostura to make hand sanitiser to curb shortage


Angostura Holdings Limited has announced plans to use its alcohol to manufacture hand sanitisers and sanitiser liquids in an effort to combat the current shortage in Trinidad and Tobago.

In a statement on Thursday, Angostura said their products will be distributed to public hospitals, members of the protective services and health centres.

http://www.looptt.com/content/angostura ... b-shortage

[Devourment]

Delete

[maj. tom]

BTW... How safe is into eat outside food? What are the chances of contracting it through food if the handler or cook is infected?

Fuss time I gone in KFC and didn't have to line up. Place dead, dead, dead...

Low once they not actually touching, coughing on the food. But on the bag and box etc it can be transmitted.

It's a risk yes.

KFC (at least the one I went to) has the staff wearing gloves and the food was kept warm under heat lamps. The only other thing to probably take a chance with is establishments/ vendors where the food is made to order, none of that sweating in glass cabinet chupidness this rounds...

How about nuking it in the microwave for a 2 mins before eating it.... would that make it safe?

No. Viruses aren't bacteria. You can't "kill" them as they are not alive in the first place. It is known that the coronavirus can remain active on surfaces for quite a few hours. So if food workers who are infected transmit a few viruses onto the already cooked food through aerosolized spittle or even breathing too hard on the food it it not known what can happen.
If you suspect food is contaminated with a virus, throw it away.

However, to date I have not seen any warnings about it. Several authorities say coronavirus cannot be transmitted through food. But the scenario i outlined above could be possible for fast food places like KFC because the food is cooked and then is handled and stored for some time before reaching the customer.

Transmission through food is unlikely and there is no evidence of this occurring with COVID-19 to date, however investigations into how the virus spreads are continuing.

The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has released a statement noting there is currently no evidence that food is a likely source or route of transmission of the virus.
https://www.foodstandards.gov.au/consum ... AFETY.aspx


Can COVID-19 (coronavirus) be passed on through food?
There is no evidence to suggest that COVID-19 is passed on through food.

Coronaviruses need a host (animal or human) to grow in and cannot grow in food. Thorough cooking is expected to kill the virus.
https://www.fsai.ie/faq/coronavirus.html