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Young: We fired mostly Africans from SSA
Sean Douglas
MINISTER of National Security Stuart Young denied Carlton Dennie’s claims of the Government purging of East Indians from the Strategic Services Agencies (SSA) by saying three-quarters of those fired were Africans.
Young then turned the tables by alleging that of those officers fired from the SSA by the former People’s Partnership Government, some 92 per cent were Africans.
At yesterday’s post Cabinet briefing at the Diplomatic Centre, St Ann’s, he said it pained him to have to cite statistics based on race.
He said the Government in 2015 had terminated staff or opted to not renew their contracts based on merit, performance or the SSA’s needs. Young said of 79 such staff, some 57 people (or 72 per cent) were Africans, while 22 individuals were East Indians.
He alleged a “cleansing” of the SSA in 2010 by the PP government, saying 25 out of 27 individuals terminated were Africans, with just one East Indian and one Chinese being let go. Young said no terminations in 2015 were due to race but the listed factors. “The SSA was thought to be over populated. It needed restructuring and strategising.” Told that Dennie had earlier yesterday said an alleged directive to fire East Indians had been given to him by one Mr Matthews, Young said this contrasted with Dennie’s previous claim that the Prime Minister had issued such an order and it now suggested that Dennie had originally told a lie. “He is changing his story. He is moving the goal posts.”
Young blamed Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar for Dennie’s address at a recent UNC rally where he made his claims. It was a planned occasion, he said, which threatened the fabric of this society.
“It was premeditated by the leader of the Opposition to introduce racial tensions into the society.”
Saying Dennie had not headed the SSA but only been director of intelligence, Young said he had no authority to fire anyone, whether based on race or not.
He said the recent online posting of the names of African and East Indian staff fired from the SSA was irresponsible and was taken from the Opposition’s alleged “Cambridge Analytica play book.” “Intelligence officers and their identities should never be revealed. It puts them and their families in danger.” Young said no FBI or CIA head who was fired ever ran to the media nor had former SAUTT head Brig Peter Joseph nor former SSA head Nigel Clement when fired by the PP government. By contrast Young alleged Dennie was persuaded by the Opposition to tell “unfounded lies” and to attack the PM’s reputation based on race. “At the press conference today we see the truth. Mr Dennie said he has political ambitions and would like to enter Parliament.” Young said neither he nor the PM had ever heard of Dennie before now. Young replied to Opposition concerns about the Government’s access to the SSA’s human resource file on Dennie by saying that if Dennie is making allegations against Dr Rowley, the PM is entitled to ask who this person was.
In the question session, Young reckoned Rowley would seek legal advice on Dennie’s words. “I think it’s defamatory.” Young said for his part he would see if Dennie by his words had now violated his SSA employment contract.
Dennie: ‘I don't know’
Who gave instructions to fire East Indians from SSA?
Shane Superville
FORMER director of intelligence for the Strategic Services Agency (SSA) Carlton Dennie claims he does not know where the alleged instructions to fire East Indian staff members originated from. He said they were directed to him by the agency's former director of criminal intelligence Matthew Andrews.
Responding to questions from reporters yesterday at a press conference at the Chancellor Hotel, St Ann's, Dennie said while he was unsure where the directive came from, he could confirm it was passed on to him via Andrews and maintained such instructions would have to come from a top-tier official at the National Security Council, on which the Prime Minister sits as head.
"The 'them' I am referring to was the same 'them' who gave Matthew Andrews the instructions (to fire the Indians). I can only allege by what he told me. He told me it was members (of the National Security Council). I told him to go back and tell them I would not be doing that, but I did not inquire who they were.
"I am saying that persons at the bottom cannot give Matthew Andrews those type of instructions."
In a 2016 Newsday report, Dennie was quoted as saying he was approached by Andrews, who at the time served as the interim director of the SSA, to assist him in "weeding out" Indians at the agency.
"I didn't point fingers at anyone. I am a budding politician, I said what I had to say and let the chips fall where they may," Dennie said.
Asked if he would be willing to apologise to Rowley for his remarks on a UNC platform on Monday night, Dennie said he wished to apologise to anyone he offended by his remarks.
"My intention is not to offend anyone, but usually the truth offends."
Dennie said while he had political aspirations, his first priority was to ensure that everyone was treated fairly by their government. He described himself as a politician who cares, or a "caretician."
Dennie appeared at the UNC Monday Night Forum in Debe this week as a guest speaker, and said while he was not coaxed into attending by Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar, he would be open to other appearances as part of the UNC.
He told the audience on Monday, “I am the person they asked to fire all the East Indians from the SSA, and I told them ‘no, I am not doing that.’ This made the daily newspapers.
“I reminded Keith Rowley and the then minister of national security (Edmund) Dillon that in this country, every creed and race must find an equal place. I told them ‘no I am not firing East Indians.’
“When we vote in the next general elections, we must vote for equity, we must vote for Kamla Persad-Bissessar.”
Dennie joined the SSA in 1997 after being transferred from the Defence Force, which he joined in 1981, and was fired from the agency on December 14, 2015.
He has since filed a lawsuit challenging his dismissal.
eliteauto wrote:Definitely UNC 1.0
hydroep wrote:Puh Growlers back dey please, leh him finish what he start. Best crime mini-star evah...
The_Honourable wrote:Panday back in general election fray
With seven months to term's end and general election ahead, there'll be a Panday involved in upcoming polls—maybe even two.
Former prime minister and UNC founder Basdeo Panday said he has been speaking to several people from smaller parties about presenting a united political force as an alternative for voters disenchanted with the PNM and UNC.
Several political personalities are attending a meeting on Wednesday, which he has called regarding the plan.
Panday, 86, spoke to Guardian Media last Thursday, a couple of days after returning from the UK. He said he had a medical check-up and assured he was alright.
Panday has recently been lobbying on social media for change and the coming together of small parties. Among his messages, Panday had said, "It must be pellucidly clear to all the 'smaller' political parties in T&T that under the present political system there is no way they are going to win any seats in Parliament. If they are serious in any meaningful participation in the political process then they must unite in a struggle to change the system. That means changing the Constitution. To do so they must get together and contest the next general elections under a single banner. Persisting in the blame game will not solve anything. What do you think?"
He also posted, "Having regard to the deteriorating state of affairs in our country I think the time has come when those of us who seek meaningful change must come together and work on a plan to do something about it."
Panday had sought feedback on whether people would attend a meeting to discuss his idea.
On Thursday, he said that if there was nothing new on the political horizon for voters, the situation with the PNM and UNC would continue, the Constitution would remain unchanged, and T&T will continue as it has been going.
"There are many who are disenchanted with both parties. At this point, they outnumber the others. If we can unite the people who are disenchanted with these monolithic parties—these people who are the electoral majority in T&T—that may be the only hope for T&T," he added. "So I've been talking to many people about presenting a united force in elections, bringing together all the small parties on a joint basis. "
He said he expects his daughter Mickela's Patriotic Front party—which is contesting the election—will be part of such a force.
Panday declined to identify who he had been talking to. "But there's been some good responses," he added.
He said the first meeting was planned for Wednesday at 6 pm at Gaston Court, Chaguanas. This would examine coming together and the way forward.
"...Any party which I haven't been able to contact yet can also attend," he said.
Panday said he had no intention of contesting a seat in electoral politics but, "One doesn't know what the future holds. My task, however, is simply aimed at getting together the people who are outside of the two big parties, so smaller parties within a united effort can have a voice in Parliament and we can try to change the Constitution."
We are coming—party leaders
Checks confirmed several active political personalities—including former PP administration members—have spoken with Panday and are attending his meeting. He has also raised the idea with some current UNC members in the last two weeks.
Congress of the People leader Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan said on Thursday, "Yes, I've been talking with Mr Panday. I've always advocated the principle of coming together as coalition politics is still very relevant—especially in T&T's circumstances where everyone needs representation. We'll see how it goes."
Movement for Social Justice leader David Abdulah said, "Mr Panday spoke to me before he went overseas. We're scheduled to meet shortly."
Movement for National Development leader Garvin Nicholas said, "I'll attend Wednesday's meeting. Mr Panday's a former prime minister and I'm going out of respect. If Prime Minister Keith Rowley called me to discuss any ideas, I'd do too. I agree there must be some other force to exert influence on the politics or else the situation will remain the same. But my main focus is the three Diego Martin seats."
Last Friday, New National Vision leader Fuad Abu Bakr said he echoed Panday's sentiments on the need for something different apart from the two major parties, "His move is a step in the right direction and we'll attend to see what develops from the meeting and how entities might come together to take T&T forward the right way. He's made an effort to start, it's not the first or last, but we're open-minded."
Flu-burdened ex-UNC minister Finbar Ganga, who said he had missed an earlier call from Panday, said he woulld "see" if he would attend Wednesday's meeting.
Democratic Party of T&T (DPTT) leader Steve Alvarez said, "I'm attending Mr Panday's meeting. It's what's required. This is the only chance third parties can have to be taken seriously and it's the best option to contest all 41 seats if everyone comes together."
POS People's Movement leader Louis Lee Sing said the issue was broached with him late last year (not by Panday) but he wasn't contacted recently. "But anything that'll bring relief to T&T is worth exploring at this time," he said.
Ex-PP minister Vasant Bharath had no comment.
Several UNC MPs said they had not heard from Panday.
UNC's Ganga Singh was unavailable. He had launched a unity call at a 2018 function attended by Panday, Devant Maharaj, UNC's Fuad Khan, Bharath, Jack Warner and others. They all supported the call. Khan said last Friday he had not heard from Panday.
In the last Local Government elections, Elections and Boundaries Commission's preliminary results showed MSJ, PPM, COP and MND with respective votes ranging from a high of 2,635 (MSJ) to 404 (MND). MSJ, COP, MND and PPM had a combined total of approximately 5,325 votes. PNM polled 161,962 and UNC had the popular vote with 202,584.
Just over a handful of the 84 plus parties registered with EBC are active full-time or partially. The majority listed are dormant or defunct.
Mickela: Patrotric Front open to talks
Mickela Panday says her Patriotic Front (PF) party which is contesting the election is open to talks “with everyone who shares the same beliefs, principles and values as PF.”
That was her reply on whether PF will join other parties, whom, and the status of any talks.
The PF was formed in 2019 but did not participate in Local Government elections.
She explained, “We were implementing structures and machinery necessary to fight the 2020 election.”
Asked about the number of members PF has acquired since then, she said, “We’ll know the exact number (of members) after the election results.”
On where she may contest, Panday said, “As things stand today, I do intend to contest, which constituency I chose to submit my nomination papers for will depend on where I believe I can make a real impact on the lives of the people who live there.
“We’re prepared for election. Candidates will be chosen during a screening process which will be transparent and based on meritocracy, we’ll start campaigning and becoming more high profile in due course.”
She did not reply on how many UNC members/personalities have come to PF such as Adesh Nanan, John Humphrey or others who attended her party’s launch. She repeated that the party was open to talks with all who share PF’s beliefs. That was also her answer when asked whether she had talks with ex-PP minister Vasant Bharath.
She was similarly non-committal regarding her views of other parties and independent candidates and whether she would be linking with them for election. “We live in a democratic society where everyone’s allowed to express their views and contest any election,” she said.
Asked whether she was speaking to UNC MPs and whom, she replied, “I speak to everyone.”
On views that the election is mainly a PNM/UNC fight, she said, “Now that PF is a viable option, that may no longer be the case.”
On her view of the PNM’s performance, she said, “We intend to focus on solutions and not waste time mudslinging. It’s for the people to decide.”
And her views of UNC? “The people will decide.”
Source: https://guardian.co.tt/news/panday-back ... ef71ab2fe3
rspann wrote:Doh mind how they shuffle that pack, is the same bunch of shithongs.
Panday: Why UNC MPs so riled up about my meeting?
Gail Alexander
Former Prime Minister Basdeo Panday is curious why some UNC MPs are “so riled” up about his moves to unite smaller parties to seek constitutional reform and contest general elections.
He was commenting after UNC MP Fuad Khan, Roodal Moonilal, Rudy Indarsingh and Suruj Rambachan frowned on his plan.
He has issued a call for a meeting with small parties in Chaguanas tomorrow (Wednesday).
Panday said, “Responses (to the meeting) have been very good. But I can’t understand (UNC MPs) views. They may feel threatened they may no longer dominate the Parliament if a third force succeeds including in seeking proportional representation. That wouldn’t allow voting along racial lines the way it is now.”
He said tomorrow’s meeting was open and wasn’t a “secret” meeting.
One person whom Panday invited who won’t attend is National Coalition for Transformation head Nalini Dial.
“I thought it was a private meeting. That would have been better for views to be voiced properly, then later go public,” Dial said, adding Panday’s meeting seemed to be a front to gain support/members for his daughter’s party.
She said Panday contacted her last week and she at first agreed to attend. But she isn’t, after noting Panday’s social media posts inviting others. Dial said she and others were having unity talks since May 2019, aiming to launch a united front after Carnival.
“I actually made the first call on social media last year, for all these small parties to unite and fight the next elections. DPTT’s Steve Alvarez sought talks last May and we agreed we needed to come together to be a stronger force.”
She said a group, “Together We Achieve was formed “ including Alvarez, Clyde Weatherhead, Kenneth Munro Brown, Philip Franco, Subharaj Sarwan who met in June 2019, “We agreed unity was the only way forward, but we should try to get others involved. I gave the group about 16 names. Included were, (Congress of the People) COP, (Movement for Social Justice )MSJ, (Independent Liberal Party) ILP, (National Solidarity Assembly) NSA, (Progressive Party) PP, (Patriotic Front) PF, (People’s Empowerment Party) PEP, (Democratic National Assembly) DNA, TTDF, and others. We left out PNM and UNC; and Vasant Bharath and Louis Lee Sing, because they weren’t leaders of any party.”
Affirmative responses only came from the PP, PF, and ILP, she said. PP’s Nikoli Edwards agreed to attend and PF’s Mickela Panday agreed but never attended. She said the group continued meeting and agreed to launch their united front after Carnival and make a public appeal to others.
“It’s, therefore, very surprising to see Mr Panday’s unity call now especially since he never contacted me since last year when I was making this same unity call.”
mikela come back out all ah sudden
rspann wrote:Meeting ain't even take place yet but kuchoor done start. These Indians eh. Panday wondering why the UNC MPs riled up? He too smart not to know. PNM till 2030.
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