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WTK premix concrete price

Postby daring dragoon » June 12th, 2018, 3:19 am

anyone know the price of premix concrete? or which company has the best price? looking at 14 cubic meter of concrete for a driveway.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby rspann » June 12th, 2018, 6:29 am

$875 by Pre-mix, the best to use in a driveway is the fibre reinforced concrete.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby fokhan_96 » June 12th, 2018, 8:32 am

These prices were the beginning of this year. Don't know if is the same..

ReadyMix WI ... $900
Kalcrete ... $870 (cash)
Alescon ... $1069
CCAPL ... $860
Advance ReadyMix ... $928
Coosal ... $937
General earth movers ... $900

These are for 3000psi.
Some companies prices vary slight due to location.
Some require you to pay cash to get "discount".

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby pugboy » June 12th, 2018, 8:49 am

Fiber may be higher price though but better as spann said
If you shluld have segments for planned expansion cracking

Brc installed in normal anyhow way is a woft

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby Cantmis » June 12th, 2018, 9:12 am

Have to factor in concrete pump

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby Dizzy28 » June 12th, 2018, 10:00 am

Curtms wrote:Have to factor in concrete pump


For a driveway??

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby blaine » June 12th, 2018, 8:31 pm

Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby Rory Phoulorie » June 12th, 2018, 8:35 pm

blaine wrote:Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.

4000psi cylinder or cube strength? There is a difference and people need to understand that.

What kind of fibres were mixed in the concrete? Fibres for temperature reinforcement and/or fibres for structural reinforcement?

People, please ensure that you know what you are buying when purchasing readymix concrete.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby blaine » June 12th, 2018, 8:38 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:
blaine wrote:Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.

4000psi cylinder or cube strength? There is a difference and people need to understand that.

What kind of fibres were mixed in the concrete? Fibres for temperature reinforcement and/or fibres for structural reinforcement?

People, please ensure that you know what you are buying when purchasing readymix concrete.


I have not a clue....

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby jl6106 » June 12th, 2018, 8:57 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:
blaine wrote:Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.

4000psi cylinder or cube strength? There is a difference and people need to understand that.

What kind of fibres were mixed in the concrete? Fibres for temperature reinforcement and/or fibres for structural reinforcement?

People, please ensure that you know what you are buying when purchasing readymix concrete.
Please educate

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby carluva » June 12th, 2018, 9:34 pm

Yes. Please do... interested to learn

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby carluva » June 12th, 2018, 9:37 pm

blaine wrote:Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.


Thats a screed mix design. Really good for driveways as you dont have big stones to contend with. Even better if floated or bull floated then fresnoed for a smooth finish.

Some ppl will use a concrete mix design, which is just as good but will need good finishing so the big stones dont come to the top to eventually come loose and pit over time.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 12th, 2018, 10:22 pm

jl6106 wrote:
Rory Phoulorie wrote:
blaine wrote:Advance : $940 for 4000psi 3/8 aggregate with fiber.
Line pump $3000
Only if paying cash.. This is what I paid last week.

4000psi cylinder or cube strength? There is a difference and people need to understand that.

What kind of fibres were mixed in the concrete? Fibres for temperature reinforcement and/or fibres for structural reinforcement?

People, please ensure that you know what you are buying when purchasing readymix concrete.
Please educate


Educate , we wanna wanna know

When you making the posts in a wall can you use the pre-mix or will the pump pressure be too strong ?

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby screwbash » June 13th, 2018, 4:07 am

daz real money. it mite bee cheeper to hire too piper to mix dah 2 load ah gravel

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby daring dragoon » June 13th, 2018, 6:16 am

[quote="fokhan_96"]These prices were the beginning of this year. Don't know if is the same..

ReadyMix WI ... $900
Kalcrete ... $870 (cash)
Alescon ... $1069
CCAPL ... $860
Advance ReadyMix ... $928
Coosal ... $937
General earth movers ... $900

These are for 3000psi.
Some companies prices vary slight due to location.
Some require you to pay cash to get "discount".[/qu

thanks
the cheapest here working out to $12000 for the amount i need. what about those portable cement mixer. what is the rental on that an how easy it is to get the job done?

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby pugboy » June 13th, 2018, 8:14 am

Ransom can work if operators know what they doing
I.e. Precise measurements

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 13th, 2018, 9:35 am

daring dragoon wrote:
fokhan_96 wrote:These prices were the beginning of this year. Don't know if is the same..

ReadyMix WI ... $900
Kalcrete ... $870 (cash)
Alescon ... $1069
CCAPL ... $860
Advance ReadyMix ... $928
Coosal ... $937
General earth movers ... $900

These are for 3000psi.
Some companies prices vary slight due to location.
Some require you to pay cash to get "discount".[/qu

thanks
the cheapest here working out to $12000 for the amount i need. what about those portable cement mixer. what is the rental on that an how easy it is to get the job done?


You might be able to buy a cement mixer cheap - since all those small construction companies closing down .

Then mix the cement yourself and pave your drive way .

Did a similar job DIY and used pre mix from a ready mix company which I will not name .

The quote was $11,000 but after the rape it was $16,000.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby carluva » June 13th, 2018, 10:23 am

So I spoke to a civil engineer at work who directed me to some literature and rory is correct, compressive strength of concrete can either be related to cylinder strength or cube strength - noting that a 3000 psi concrete cube strength is stronger than a 3000 psi concrete cylinder strength. This is due to the geometry of the mould since a cylinder can tolertae more forces than a cube...

So if one were to mix a batch of concrete and then do one cylinder mould and one cube mould, the cylinder mould would crush at a higher psi than the cube mould. Therefore a 3000 psi cube strength is a richer mix (i.e. higher cement ratio) than a 3000 psi cylinder strength.

This kinda makes sense, because if you ask your supplier for a mix design, they will quote the compressive strength to either cylinder or cube and I have seen this before tho never paid much heed until now.

@ daring dragoon - I always recommend ready mixed concrete for large pours since there is always a reliable consistency of the mix. Unless the men loading the ransom accurately measuring a cement/aggregate/water ratio, you will not get a consistent mix nor can you predict what the final compressive strength will be. Trying to save a few dollars by not doing a ready mix can cost you in the long run as you may find that a hand mix or ransom mix will crack, pit flake or dust is the long run. For columns and lintols, this should be ok but foundations, slabs, decking and driveways, my advise will be to pay the extra for the ready mix concrete.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby Rory Phoulorie » June 15th, 2018, 7:15 pm

When you are ordering readymix concrete for a structure that will take load (for example, a walkway, driveway, beam, column, etc.), the minimum compressive strength of concrete that you should order is 21MPa or 3000psi cylinder strength concrete. For the non-technical people, "MPa" means mega Pascals (and is the same as N/mm2 or Newtons per square millimetre) and "psi" means pounds per square inch.

Concrete can be specified in two ways, cylinder strength (American) or cube strength (European). For the same concrete mix, if the compressive strength is tested using a cylindrical test specimen (150mm diameter x 300mm high or 100mm diameter x 200mm high), it will give a strength that is approximately 80% that of the strength obtained using a cube test specimen (150mm long x 150mm wide x 150mm high or 100mm long x 100mm wide x 100mm high).

So concrete with a cylindrical compressive strength of 21MPa will have a cube strength of 26.25MPa.

For sidewalks and driveways where for reinforcement welded wire fabric (or "BRC" as referred to locally) is usually used, if you actually see how the welded wire fabric is installed, it is, most times, not installed properly. The welded wire fabric is usually not properly supported off the base of the excavation (either construction plastic or bare soil) to be effective. The welded wire fabric is most times laying directly on the base of the excavation.

What I have started specifying recently is the use of fibre-reinforced concrete for sidewalks and driveways that are to be installed at ground level. With the fibre-reinforced concrete, you don't have the issues of time and material wastage, and resulting lower quality work, as you usually do with welded wire fabric reinforced concrete.

For sidewalks taking pedestrian loads only, all you would really need is temperature reinforcement and the fibremesh concrete would use, say, Adfil Fibrin XT polypropylene fibres dosed at 0.91kg per cubic metre of concrete.

For driveways taking vehicular loads and sidewalks where you expect the typical Trinidadian to go and park up on (even though that is illegal), you would need both structural and temperature reinforcement. In this situation, the fibremesh concrete would be specified as using Adfil Durus S500 fibres dosed at 2kg per cubic metre of concrete, together with Adfil Fibrin XT polypropylene fibres dosed at 0.91kg per cubic metre of concrete.

The fibres that are added to the concrete are already weighed out and sold in packs, so all the readymix company has to do is open the correct number of packs and add them to the drum of the readymix concrete truck and mix the concrete for the required time or concrete drum revolutions. You can call companies like SCL Trinidad Limited for advice on the fibres to use for your specific job, or you can ask your questions on the forum here and I will try to answer them in a timely manner (I don't work for SCL Trinidad Limited and am not trying to market or promote that company).

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 16th, 2018, 2:49 am

Any company selling a concrete mixer ?

PM with price and if delivery is included .

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby rspann » June 16th, 2018, 8:48 pm

RedVEVO wrote:Any company selling a concrete mixer ?

PM with price and if delivery is included .


I have a concrete mixer for sale.
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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby sMASH » June 16th, 2018, 9:18 pm

^^seems to. Be missing the motor

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby rspann » June 16th, 2018, 9:22 pm

Yeah dais why I selling cheap. Only $150.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 17th, 2018, 5:35 am

sMASH wrote:^^seems to. Be missing the motor


:D

His Motor missing long time .

He doing he ting by hand now .

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby rspann » June 17th, 2018, 6:51 am

How you know that? She promised not to tell you.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 17th, 2018, 6:56 am

rspann wrote:How you know that? She promised not to tell you.


Happy Father Day Papi ! :D

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby rspann » June 17th, 2018, 7:00 am

Thanks son. Glad your mother told you the truth.

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Re: WTK premix concrete price

Postby RedVEVO » June 17th, 2018, 7:09 am

rspann wrote:Thanks son. Glad your mother told you the truth.


Ok, you have a nice day ! :D

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