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want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE???

Postby sitharcon » April 23rd, 2013, 9:10 pm

Hey peeps,

I am thinking about possibly swapping out my 3zz-fe in my altis for either a 4AGE or a 3SGTE....could y'all suggest which one would be better (along with reasons) and the prices of each??....Thanks!.......

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Ted_v2 » April 23rd, 2013, 9:12 pm

4 age.i heard about this swap already. Seems a couple has already done it locally

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby sitharcon » April 23rd, 2013, 9:36 pm

do you know how much this would cost and where i could get one for a decent price????....what about the 1jz???

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Ted_v2 » April 23rd, 2013, 10:23 pm

id say like 12k , thats pretty rough.
the 1jz is a rear wheel drive engine, where as the altis is front wheel drive.
the 3s and the 4age are the best option for your car

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby black start » April 24th, 2013, 10:50 pm

2zz-ge

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby new gt » April 25th, 2013, 5:22 pm

did the two conversions and the 3sgte was more expensive ,because u will still need a 2wd tranny to be hooked up ,cost off engine 7000,tranny 3000 ,install and wiring 6000 ,exhaust 2.5 in 3500.
The 20v b/t cost 7000,install and wire 5000,exhaust 2.5 in 2200.
2zz ge nice but would you like to spend 15000 on engine 5000 on install and wiring then there is the exhaust 22-2600.

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Hook » April 26th, 2013, 1:39 am

new gt wrote:did the two conversions and the 3sgte was more expensive ,because u will still need a 2wd tranny to be hooked up ,cost off engine 7000,tranny 3000 ,install and wiring 6000 ,exhaust 2.5 in 3500.
The 20v b/t cost 7000,install and wire 5000,exhaust 2.5 in 2200.
2zz ge nice but would you like to spend 15000 on engine 5000 on install and wiring then there is the exhaust 22-2600.


Is the BT conversion worth it though?

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby black start » April 26th, 2013, 1:46 am

User Forester 5000 on the forums did a 3s-gte swap in his NZE. I'm sure it may be similar to your application

Maybe you can pm him and ask about what he did and the problems he encountered.

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Ricky99 » April 26th, 2013, 7:32 pm

if u looking at power go 3sgte one time...it has more hp out of the box and more can be extracted easily.

doin one in maybe 6 weeks time but on a celica.

surely it may cost more but u would thank me later.

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby psycostud666 » April 27th, 2013, 1:38 pm

Wont the 1ZR or 2ZR be good options? these engines did come in some Altis and they have better designed VVTi systems.

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby new gt » April 27th, 2013, 9:51 pm

the b/t conversion works very well ,1st run went to toco and it worked flawess.
some people think the 3s is this flawess power plant.Yes the engine works but ask how many of them get parts to accomplish power over 300 hp.getting someone to wire the dam think is a tdious task .i dont have any problem wiring them .Have rewired many of them all ready because people seem to think it is as easy to wire as the nissan engines.we have been doing work on the 4age engines both 20-16vs since they came to this country.we do every thing from 2e to 2j .Did 3s conversions on diffrent toyota vechiles,all turned out very good,even got recommended by some .our experince with toyotas go way back to when the assembley plant was operational.

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby black start » April 27th, 2013, 10:05 pm

new gt wrote:our experince with toyotas go way back to when the assembley plant was operational.


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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Ted_v2 » April 28th, 2013, 5:07 am

GT how much would a 20v auto swap cost in a 101 corolla ? I'll do the mechanical stuff but I need help wrt electrical
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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby black start » April 28th, 2013, 12:08 pm

sound boy 64 wrote:GT how much would a 20v auto swap cost in a 101 corolla ?


how come you didn't suggest [sayitaintso]sr20det[/sayitaintso] ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: want to swap out 3zz-fe: which one better 4AGE or 3SGTE?

Postby Ted_v2 » April 28th, 2013, 6:36 pm

black start wrote:
sound boy 64 wrote:GT how much would a 20v auto swap cost in a 101 corolla ?


how come you didn't suggest [sayitaintso]sr20det[/sayitaintso] ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Power would be there but I'm looking at reliability. Not able with crossbreed for daily nah

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