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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 16th, 2020, 1:27 pm

Redman wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:in other news, local blacks have taken great strides in lifting them selves up from under oppression, by defacing columbus statue.
In TT?

yesh... PoS.


Here yah go, Image

Wondering when these BLM folks decide to burn down churches for enslaving and encouraging the slavery of blacks for centuries.

“When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.” —
Jomo Kenyatta, First President of Kenya, Africa



The same group that is asking everyone to ignore George Floyds history -but seem unable to do the same for Columbus et al.

Malcolm X was a drug dealer-
MLK apparently was generous with his towtee.
Shaka Zulu was psychotically violent....he killed millions before any European people arrived.

Lets break down all those tributes as well.

Equality is just that.


Blunt, but direct to the point.

But give it time when it reaches the court and these BLM racist groups are unable to give a reason for their actions. That why i absolutely love how this is blowing up.

A fire don’t always burn in one direction.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby rspann » June 16th, 2020, 3:09 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:in other news, local blacks have taken great strides in lifting them selves up from under oppression, by defacing columbus statue.
In TT?

yesh... PoS.


Here yah go, Image

Wondering when these BLM folks decide to burn down churches for enslaving and encouraging the slavery of blacks for centuries.

“When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.” —
Jomo Kenyatta, First President of Kenya, Africa



The same group that is asking everyone to ignore George Floyds history -but seem unable to do the same for Columbus et al.

Malcolm X was a drug dealer-
MLK apparently was generous with his towtee.
Shaka Zulu was psychotically violent....he killed millions before any European people arrived.

Lets break down all those tributes as well.

Equality is just that.
It's not the same group as in the US

How do you explain PNM ppl are oppressed under a goverment that they voted for?



You drinking bush tea for other people fever? PNM people tell you they opressed?
Call the election now and see who they voting for . We like it so!

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 3:39 pm

rspann wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:in other news, local blacks have taken great strides in lifting them selves up from under oppression, by defacing columbus statue.
In TT?

yesh... PoS.


Here yah go, Image

Wondering when these BLM folks decide to burn down churches for enslaving and encouraging the slavery of blacks for centuries.

“When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.” —
Jomo Kenyatta, First President of Kenya, Africa



The same group that is asking everyone to ignore George Floyds history -but seem unable to do the same for Columbus et al.

Malcolm X was a drug dealer-
MLK apparently was generous with his towtee.
Shaka Zulu was psychotically violent....he killed millions before any European people arrived.

Lets break down all those tributes as well.

Equality is just that.
It's not the same group as in the US

How do you explain PNM ppl are oppressed under a goverment that they voted for?



You drinking bush tea for other people fever? PNM people tell you they opressed?
Call the election now and see who they voting for . We like it so!
Where is the PNM prime Minster to show his disgusts by his voters actions?

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby De Dragon » June 16th, 2020, 3:46 pm

zoom rader wrote:
rspann wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Redman wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:in other news, local blacks have taken great strides in lifting them selves up from under oppression, by defacing columbus statue.
In TT?

yesh... PoS.


Here yah go, Image

Wondering when these BLM folks decide to burn down churches for enslaving and encouraging the slavery of blacks for centuries.

“When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.” —
Jomo Kenyatta, First President of Kenya, Africa



The same group that is asking everyone to ignore George Floyds history -but seem unable to do the same for Columbus et al.

Malcolm X was a drug dealer-
MLK apparently was generous with his towtee.
Shaka Zulu was psychotically violent....he killed millions before any European people arrived.

Lets break down all those tributes as well.

Equality is just that.
It's not the same group as in the US

How do you explain PNM ppl are oppressed under a goverment that they voted for?



You drinking bush tea for other people fever? PNM people tell you they opressed?
Call the election now and see who they voting for . We like it so!
Where is the PNM prime Minster to show his disgusts by his voters actions?

He see iz Shabaka Kambon and dem. He good.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby bluefete » June 16th, 2020, 4:58 pm

It is all about socialisation.


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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Miktay » June 16th, 2020, 5:42 pm

88sins wrote:Miktay, that understandable, and is the expected course. But the thing is that whole thing is now chicken or egg scenario.
Ppl have a problem with police, so they protest. Some get destructive, so they send in police and they rile the protesters up with acts of violence, so protesters keep protesting. That's why I say they need to quit sending police and utilize the national guard to stop and discourage destructive behavior.

From what I'm seeing, the military is going to get involved sooner or later, and I suspect there may be an attempt at disarmament of the population and at least some talk about the suspension of the rights protected by the second amendment when that happens. That would be problematic at best.

Bro...police brutality iz one ting...but using isolated incidents of police brutality 2 justify burning and looting iz the pseudo logic of the outrage mob.

There are no good alternatives to defunding the police. But cultural Marxists like BLM and Antifa don’t use logic. They don’t think.

Mob rule iz chaos.

If the police are defunded who in their right mind will do bidnezz in those cities?

That iz what those who support chaos don’t understand. Chaos has consequences.

Here are a couple consequences never imagined by lunatic lefties.
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Event To Liberate Seattle Goes Viral As Bikers Nationwide Vow To Remove Antifa Barricades

American patriots from across the country have vowed to ride, drive and run into Seattle from across the nation and liberate the city’s Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone from Antifa radicals who have blockaded themselves in the district.

https://prntly.com/2020/06/13/event-to- ... arricades/

Poll: If Police Departments Are Defunded, 79 Percent of Truckers Say They Won’t Deliver To Those Cities

According to a new poll, an overwhelming majority of truckers say they will not deliver goods to cities that elect to defund or abolish their police departments.
Overwhelming Majority of Truckers Will Not Deliver to Cities that Defund Their Police Departments

According to CDL News, a news outlet for the commercial trucking industry, a whopping 79 percent of truck drivers said they would fear for their safety if they had to deliver to cities with disbanded police departments.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/poll-if-police-departments-are-defunded-79-percent-of-truckers-say-they-wont-deliver-to-those-cities/

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby maj. tom » June 16th, 2020, 5:57 pm

bluefete wrote:It is all about socialisation.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

The Eye of the Storm (1970 film)

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » June 16th, 2020, 6:03 pm

I realize something.
Most people kinda getting the wrong idea when they hear about calls to abolish or defund the police.

It's not about having no police and zero law enforcement. The call to abolish the police is about starting over, first developing a national standard and code of conduct of what's allowed and what isn't, then firing everyone in all departments, could be done gradually in phases, and properly vetting and training candidates. That, and the clear cut guidelines about what actions are justifiable under qualified immunity is basically what most people want.
Those things while not totally unreasonable, will meet major resistance from both police and politicians.

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Postby Lou Screuz » June 16th, 2020, 6:24 pm

88sins wrote:I realize something.
Most people kinda getting the wrong idea when they hear about calls to abolish or defund the police.

It's not about having no police and zero law enforcement. The call to abolish the police is about starting over, first developing a national standard and code of conduct of what's allowed and what isn't, then firing everyone in all departments, could be done gradually in phases, and properly vetting and training candidates. That, and the clear cut guidelines about what actions are justifiable under qualified immunity is basically what most people want.
Those things while not totally unreasonable, will meet major resistance from both police and politicians.


i am shocked

who would ever have imagined that ? :shock:

not - "De-Militarise d Police !" ?

not - "Higher Standards for d Police !" ?

not even- "Hold d Police Accountable !" ?

but seriously

whoever came up with that slogan

'defund the police'

to mean reform of the police depts, hiring practice and funding of social programs that will take some burden off of the police

- they is either the WORST public relations manager EVER :lol: :lol: :lol:

or a saboteur :?

mind games oui

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Dohplaydat » June 16th, 2020, 6:25 pm

Lou Screuz wrote:
88sins wrote:I realize something.
Most people kinda getting the wrong idea when they hear about calls to abolish or defund the police.

It's not about having no police and zero law enforcement. The call to abolish the police is about starting over, first developing a national standard and code of conduct of what's allowed and what isn't, then firing everyone in all departments, could be done gradually in phases, and properly vetting and training candidates. That, and the clear cut guidelines about what actions are justifiable under qualified immunity is basically what most people want.
Those things while not totally unreasonable, will meet major resistance from both police and politicians.


i am shocked

who would ever have imagined that ? :shock:

not - "De-Militarise d Police !" ?

not - "Higher Standards for d Police !" ?

not even- "Hold d Police Accountable !" ?

but seriously

whoever came up with that slogan

'defund the police'

to mean reform of the police depts, hiring practice and funding of social programs that will take some burden off of the police

- they is either the WORST public relations manager EVER :lol: :lol: :lol:

or a saboteur :?

mind games oui


Need to appeal to their audience man, black criminals. So they playing into the worse stereotype of black people not wanting any police.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 16th, 2020, 7:12 pm

bluefete wrote:It is all about socialisation.



Wow, this is seriously one of the best videos i remember seeing.

Where have these teachers gone?

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Numb3r4 » June 16th, 2020, 7:16 pm

The teacher in question was/is Jane Elliot and was on Jimmy Fallon recently.

https://youtu.be/f2z-ahJ4uws

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 8:58 pm

Let an injun cop shoot a PNM ppl person , then it's all hell will break loose.

Remember when kenny Mohamed was CoP, PNM and their mob tried every angle to discredit him.

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Postby Kewell35 » June 16th, 2020, 9:02 pm

88sins wrote:I realize something.
Most people kinda getting the wrong idea when they hear about calls to abolish or defund the police.

It's not about having no police and zero law enforcement. The call to abolish the police is about starting over, first developing a national standard and code of conduct of what's allowed and what isn't, then firing everyone in all departments, could be done gradually in phases, and properly vetting and training candidates. That, and the clear cut guidelines about what actions are justifiable under qualified immunity is basically what most people want.
Those things while not totally unreasonable, will meet major resistance from both police and politicians.


I feel is more about moving towards privatization of police. That's what the whole thing is about.

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Postby bluefete » June 16th, 2020, 9:36 pm

The police service, in the USA, morphed into Slave Patrols..

Academic article on History of policing in the USA and UK. Go to pgs.4-5.

https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/f ... 9_ch_1.pdf

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Postby 88sins » June 16th, 2020, 9:40 pm

bluefete wrote:The police service, in the USA, morphed into Slave Patrols..

Academic article on History of policing in the USA and UK. Go to pgs.4-5.

https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/f ... 9_ch_1.pdf

Son, it never "morphed" into that, there's a lot of strong evidence that it literally started out as exactly that.

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Postby bluefete » June 16th, 2020, 9:42 pm

88sins wrote:
bluefete wrote:The police service, in the USA, morphed into Slave Patrols..

Academic article on History of policing in the USA and UK. Go to pgs.4-5.

https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/f ... 9_ch_1.pdf

Son, it never "morphed" into that, there's a lot of strong evidence that it literally started out as exactly that.


I was trying to be diplomatic.

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Postby paid_influencer » June 16th, 2020, 9:46 pm

it is a good question who came up with the slogan 'defund the police'. The slogan spread so fast with no discussion... you have to wonder if it was directed action masquerading as organic spread.

The result of 'defund the police' chanting is the city can restructure the department with no protest from the police union. The entire department gets scrapped and all retirement plans, pensions, benefits and entitlements, go poof with it. Officers that were working for 10 and 20 years get to be 'brand new' hires in the new organization.

Bad for the officers, but it is what the protesters (or whomever is dominating the social media feeds) want :drinking:

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Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 9:49 pm

88sins wrote:
bluefete wrote:The police service, in the USA, morphed into Slave Patrols..

Academic article on History of policing in the USA and UK. Go to pgs.4-5.

https://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/f ... 9_ch_1.pdf

Son, it never "morphed" into that, there's a lot of strong evidence that it literally started out as exactly that.
It's also where feminism came from.

After the US civil war, white females had to do their own house work and raise kids. Even slaves was used to breast feed white kids.Over the years they started to B1tch and complain and thus feminism was born.

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Postby Redress10 » June 16th, 2020, 10:04 pm

Time to remove that statue. It serves no purpose and need money to upkeep etc. I think that statue is just part of our need to feel connected to the wider world. What's the point of it?

It's literally spanish history and legacy. Why are we upkeeping a monument dedicated to spain's legacy and history?

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Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 10:07 pm

Redress10 wrote:Time to remove that statue. It serves no purpose and need money to upkeep etc. I think that statue is just part of our need to feel connected to the wider world. What's the point of it?

It's literally spanish history and legacy. Why are we upkeeping a monument dedicated to spain's legacy and history?
Then change this country name from Trinidad to Zambutoo

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Postby Blaze d Chalice » June 16th, 2020, 10:16 pm

Yeah man, we should also stop teaching Spanish in schools, and ban Pelau and sherry and repsol, change the capital to Laventille, and get rid of names like Port-of-Spain and San Fernando.

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Postby Ben_spanna » June 16th, 2020, 10:24 pm

Why are we even making an issue of this? Let the great America sort out their own sh1t, heck they don’t even. Like to grant visas to us third world countries.
Leave them to their own destruction... and any fr11gg1ng idiots locally who wish to partake in their stupid protests.. lock them up or bury their stupid backsides 10 feet under.

Keep our nice little island free of the stupid Over senestive, overdemanding hypocrites that now plague their society.

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Postby paid_influencer » June 16th, 2020, 10:26 pm

Redress10 wrote:Time to remove that statue. It serves no purpose and need money to upkeep etc. I think that statue is just part of our need to feel connected to the wider world. What's the point of it?

It's literally spanish history and legacy. Why are we upkeeping a monument dedicated to spain's legacy and history?


This is true. A statue has a purpose. The purpose of that particular statue is abhorrent. It should be sold on the open market, to benefit the people it once oppressed.

I propose we replace it with a statue depicting corruption and an exposition of corruption. The purpose of the statue is to show what is hidden.

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Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 10:31 pm

Blaze d Chalice wrote:Yeah man, we should also stop teaching Spanish in schools, and ban Pelau and sherry and repsol, change the capital to Laventille, and get rid of names like Port-of-Spain and San Fernando.
Pelau is not Spanish

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Postby Redress10 » June 16th, 2020, 10:34 pm

Blaze d Chalice wrote:Yeah man, we should also stop teaching Spanish in schools, and ban Pelau and sherry and repsol, change the capital to Laventille, and get rid of names like Port-of-Spain and San Fernando.


Clearly you are mixing up the two? What is taught about Columbus anyway? That he boarded a vessel and magically reached the "new world"? We don't recognise or research Columbus well enough to warrant paying any special homage to him?

Why are we praising him for exactly? I rather praise him for being an excellent navigator and "explorer" rather than just some "historical" figure. If we are respecting him because he "discovered" the new world then we are foolish. If we are are respecting him as a symbol of exploration and being courageous in braving uncharted waters then I have no problem with that.

The reality is we have always been quick to heap praise on our european counterparts whilst the average european/english person doesn't even know that their country was once a colonial power? It is never taught to their children and their schools.

Why are we always so eager to preserve what is essentially "their" history.

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Postby Redress10 » June 16th, 2020, 10:41 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Time to remove that statue. It serves no purpose and need money to upkeep etc. I think that statue is just part of our need to feel connected to the wider world. What's the point of it?

It's literally spanish history and legacy. Why are we upkeeping a monument dedicated to spain's legacy and history?


This is true. A statue has a purpose. The purpose of that particular statue is abhorrent. It should be sold on the open market, to benefit the people it once oppressed.

I propose we replace it with a statue depicting corruption and an exposition of corruption. The purpose of the statue is to show what is hidden.


Statues and monuments were useful at a time to act as living history and tell a story. That was useful at a time when history could have been erased via book burnings or even invasions/genocides. That is why invading armies always attacked statues to destory the history. But now the history is out there and it is digitised.

Destroying or removing the statue is not going to make ppl forget abt Columbus within a couple of generations. The history is there on the internet. Why spend money to build or honour the memory of a man who was here over 500 years ago? I think our funds and public spaces could be put to better use.

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Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » June 16th, 2020, 10:46 pm

So why they cant just take the good from Columbus like they what they doing with Floyd?

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Postby zoom rader » June 16th, 2020, 10:50 pm

Men forget Hugh Francis statue/plack.

Rspann tell them the story nah

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Postby Dohplaydat » June 16th, 2020, 11:07 pm

Redress10 wrote:
Blaze d Chalice wrote:Yeah man, we should also stop teaching Spanish in schools, and ban Pelau and sherry and repsol, change the capital to Laventille, and get rid of names like Port-of-Spain and San Fernando.


Clearly you are mixing up the two? What is taught about Columbus anyway? That he boarded a vessel and magically reached the "new world"? We don't recognise or research Columbus well enough to warrant paying any special homage to him?

Why are we praising him for exactly? I rather praise him for being an excellent navigator and "explorer" rather than just some "historical" figure. If we are respecting him because he "discovered" the new world then we are foolish. If we are are respecting him as a symbol of exploration and being courageous in braving uncharted waters then I have no problem with that.

The reality is we have always been quick to heap praise on our european counterparts whilst the average european/english person doesn't even know that their country was once a colonial power? It is never taught to their children and their schools.

Why are we always so eager to preserve what is essentially "their" history.


I don't think that's true at all. Every European country teaches their glorious history, their colonies etc. I've seen many speak about it, maybe it was white washed to remove the atrocities but they are very aware of their colonies.

Secondly, imagine I had to learn from a Latvian that Tobago was once their colony. Lots of UK kids all know about Trinidad from their school days when they learned about their colonies. Doubt that's been removed. Though it's such a tiny ass part of their history.
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