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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby rspann » August 30th, 2019, 7:24 pm

Kublawsingh hadda make a fast fuh Duke. We need jostiss.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » August 30th, 2019, 8:34 pm

bluefete wrote:Kiss of death??

Take care the PNM doh end up making Duke a martry.

Rovin wrote:look kublalsing has awoken from his deep slumber to say he supports duke ....
Duke should have refused bail and stayed in Jail. Panday did this and it worked in his favour.


He would have gotten more support and possible international support from union leaders around the world.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby randolphinshan » August 30th, 2019, 10:28 pm

zoom rader wrote:
bluefete wrote:Kiss of death??

Take care the PNM doh end up making Duke a martry.

Rovin wrote:look kublalsing has awoken from his deep slumber to say he supports duke ....
Duke should have refused bail and stayed in Jail. Panday did this and it worked in his favour.


He would have gotten more suptport and possible international support from union leaders around the world.


Now for Keith to lock up the real bandits KPB , Coonilal and Sewage who stole billions and have UTT workers unemployed today and CDA workers home soon.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » August 31st, 2019, 12:12 am

randolphinshan wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
bluefete wrote:Kiss of death??

Take care the PNM doh end up making Duke a martry.

Rovin wrote:look kublalsing has awoken from his deep slumber to say he supports duke ....
Duke should have refused bail and stayed in Jail. Panday did this and it worked in his favour.


He would have gotten more suptport and possible international support from union leaders around the world.


Now for Keith to lock up the real bandits KPB , Coonilal and Sewage who stole billions and have UTT workers unemployed today and CDA workers home soon.


What an eleit arse

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby wing » August 31st, 2019, 12:21 am

Who or what is "eleit"?

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby toyota2nr » August 31st, 2019, 3:34 am

This is nothing more than an attempt To silence criticism and opposition to this useless corrupt government

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby matr1x » August 31st, 2019, 6:54 am

randolphinshan wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
bluefete wrote:Kiss of death??

Take care the PNM doh end up making Duke a martry.

Rovin wrote:look kublalsing has awoken from his deep slumber to say he supports duke ....
Duke should have refused bail and stayed in Jail. Panday did this and it worked in his favour.


He would have gotten more suptport and possible international support from union leaders around the world.


Now for Keith to lock up the real bandits KPB , Coonilal and Sewage who stole billions and have UTT workers unemployed today and CDA workers home soon.




Awww...still blaming Kamala for everything?

Billions? You must be talking about Eric Williams and his dogpile of thieves.

Or manning whose cabinet stole and stole. Closing caroni under false pretenses. I hope he suffered before the end. Old stink dog and them.

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Re: Now, Watson Duke in Police Custody!

Postby zoom rader » August 31st, 2019, 7:57 am

j.o.e wrote:
coltspeed wrote:How stupid can this gov make themselves look. Take ppl into custody and uncertain that they can be charged with anything. If it's a case of having proper evidence I understand. But not $hit like this to waste ppl time and tax money.


Separation of powers. This isn’t a Govt issue, it’s a police issue



Rightttt


Oh boy we live in stupid in a country

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby rspann » August 31st, 2019, 8:51 am

wing wrote:Who or what is "eleit"?


Is either he spelling elite wrong deliberately so he won't get ban, or he went to one of them PNM ghetto schools.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby eliteauto » August 31st, 2019, 8:54 am

rspann wrote:
wing wrote:Who or what is "eleit"?


Is either he spelling elite wrong deliberately so he won't get ban, or he went to one of them PNM ghetto schools.

he does spell better with his other 2 accounts

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » August 31st, 2019, 8:58 am

wing wrote:Who or what is "eleit"?
Ask Randolphinshan he knows

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby rspann » August 31st, 2019, 9:02 am

Zoom, yuh put up any flags and banners today?

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » August 31st, 2019, 9:07 am

rspann wrote:Zoom, yuh put up any flags and banners today?
Nah but the next door PNM family(child modda) have a Jamacian flag painted on their galvanised fence.

I could swear i in portmore

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby Redman » August 31st, 2019, 9:40 am

toyota2nr wrote:This is nothing more than an attempt To silence criticism and opposition to this useless corrupt government


Thereby establishing a NEW line of criticism as heavy handed,

by using a law that expressly defines POLITICAL criticism as NOT Sedition,

all for someone that is not a real threat.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby hydroep » September 1st, 2019, 6:03 am

MATT: Sedition Act potentially criminalises journalists, activists, etc; Gov’t should review and repeal
MATT Executive Saturday 31 August 2019

“MATT sees the Act as potentially criminalising journalists, media houses, public interest activists, trade unionists, artists, bloggers and assorted social media commentators.

“[…] We view current activation of certain provisions of the Sedition Act as, disturbingly, another effort by the State to constrain fundamental rights of free speech and press freedom…”

The following is a statement by the Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago (MATT) on the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service’s use of the Sedition Act:

The Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago (MATT) joins in commemorating the 57th anniversary of this country’s self governance, sovereignty and democracy. We pay tribute to generations of journalists who have contributed to the national project through their dedication to press freedom and freedom of expression, major pillars upon which our Constitution stands.

As we reflect on our journey from crown colony to independent existence, MATT considers the recent re-mobilisation of selected provisions of the 99-year-old Sedition Act incompatible with citizen’s constitutional right to freedom of expression. The 1920 law imposes restrictions on citizens’ exercise of free speech that are so low and sweeping in an independent, 21st Century democracy as to render all citizens vulnerable to criminal charges.

Worryingly, the Sedition Act, introduced by colonial authorities to suppress independent critical views, permits the ‘suspension of newspapers containing seditious matter’ and applies further to all written and printed material. Seditious intent is broadly defined as ‘an intention to bring into hatred or contempt, or to excite disaffection against Government or the Constitution’, ‘to raise discontent or disaffection amongst inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago’ and to engender ‘feelings of ill-will towards, hostility to or contempt for any class of inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, profession, calling or employment’.

MATT sees the Act as potentially criminalising journalists, media houses, public interest activists, trade unionists, artists, bloggers and assorted social media commentators. Recently MATT has been resisting incursions into free speech and press freedom that we identified in the Cybercrime Bill 2017 and the Association one month ago focused our public education and advocacy mandate on protection of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

We view current activation of certain provisions of the Sedition Act as, disturbingly, another effort by the State to constrain fundamental rights of free speech and press freedom.

Whatever the outcome of the charge against trade unionist and THA Minority Leader Watson Duke and the charge(s) being contemplated against Radio and TV Jaagriti Managing Director Sat Maharaj, the fact that the Sedition Act has been invoked already serves to intimidate into silence those wishing to express strong opinions on the social, economic and political circumstances of the society.

The limits of free speech in Independent Trinidad and Tobago should not be left to archaic law, the purpose of which was to protect the status quo by criminalising our heroic forebears. The Act’s anachronism is evident in its 11-page schedule of prohibited publications, among which are numerous trade union periodicals, regional news sources no longer in existence, Cuban publications and a long list of official material produced by the People’s Republic of China.

We wonder whether the Sedition Act is also to be activated against representatives of countries, like the People’s Republic of China, with which modern Trinidad and Tobago has significant co-operative and investment arrangements.

MATT urges the Government to review the Sedition Act with a view to repealing it and calls on the TTPS to account for what can be interpreted as selective application of the law’s provisions. Press freedom and freedom of expression are constitutional rights guaranteed to all people of Trinidad and Tobago.

On Independence Day 2019, MATT renews its mandate as a key advocate for freedom of expression, press freedom and the promotion of independent journalism.

MATT members are invited to a general membership meeting on Saturday 14 September 2019 at 10am at a venue to be announced. The meeting will be twinned with a documentary screening and discussion on online harassment of journalists. Membership renewals will also be conducted.


https://wired868.com/2019/08/31/matt-sedition-act-potentially-criminalises-journalists-activists-etc-govt-should-review-and-repeal/

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2019, 7:20 am

^^& Matt should hull dey MC , they all PNM &,1% reporters .

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby 16 cycles » September 1st, 2019, 9:14 am

Who (gov't, DPP? Etc.) thinks it is sedition and does a formal complaint have to be lodged for police to act on or they can act of their own accord?

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby Redman » September 1st, 2019, 9:34 am

zoom rader wrote:^^& Matt should hull dey MC , they all PNM &,1% reporters .


So you disagreeing with them because they are PNM and or 1%.
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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby Dizzy28 » September 1st, 2019, 9:57 am

Clearly Rhoda Bharath is no supporter of MATT
hydroep wrote:
MATT: Sedition Act potentially criminalises journalists, activists, etc; Gov’t should review and repeal
MATT Executive Saturday 31 August 2019

“MATT sees the Act as potentially criminalising journalists, media houses, public interest activists, trade unionists, artists, bloggers and assorted social media commentators.

“[…] We view current activation of certain provisions of the Sedition Act as, disturbingly, another effort by the State to constrain fundamental rights of free speech and press freedom…”

The following is a statement by the Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago (MATT) on the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service’s use of the Sedition Act:

The Media Association of Trinidad and Tobago (MATT) joins in commemorating the 57th anniversary of this country’s self governance, sovereignty and democracy. We pay tribute to generations of journalists who have contributed to the national project through their dedication to press freedom and freedom of expression, major pillars upon which our Constitution stands.

As we reflect on our journey from crown colony to independent existence, MATT considers the recent re-mobilisation of selected provisions of the 99-year-old Sedition Act incompatible with citizen’s constitutional right to freedom of expression. The 1920 law imposes restrictions on citizens’ exercise of free speech that are so low and sweeping in an independent, 21st Century democracy as to render all citizens vulnerable to criminal charges.

Worryingly, the Sedition Act, introduced by colonial authorities to suppress independent critical views, permits the ‘suspension of newspapers containing seditious matter’ and applies further to all written and printed material. Seditious intent is broadly defined as ‘an intention to bring into hatred or contempt, or to excite disaffection against Government or the Constitution’, ‘to raise discontent or disaffection amongst inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago’ and to engender ‘feelings of ill-will towards, hostility to or contempt for any class of inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, profession, calling or employment’.

MATT sees the Act as potentially criminalising journalists, media houses, public interest activists, trade unionists, artists, bloggers and assorted social media commentators. Recently MATT has been resisting incursions into free speech and press freedom that we identified in the Cybercrime Bill 2017 and the Association one month ago focused our public education and advocacy mandate on protection of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

We view current activation of certain provisions of the Sedition Act as, disturbingly, another effort by the State to constrain fundamental rights of free speech and press freedom.

Whatever the outcome of the charge against trade unionist and THA Minority Leader Watson Duke and the charge(s) being contemplated against Radio and TV Jaagriti Managing Director Sat Maharaj, the fact that the Sedition Act has been invoked already serves to intimidate into silence those wishing to express strong opinions on the social, economic and political circumstances of the society.

The limits of free speech in Independent Trinidad and Tobago should not be left to archaic law, the purpose of which was to protect the status quo by criminalising our heroic forebears. The Act’s anachronism is evident in its 11-page schedule of prohibited publications, among which are numerous trade union periodicals, regional news sources no longer in existence, Cuban publications and a long list of official material produced by the People’s Republic of China.

We wonder whether the Sedition Act is also to be activated against representatives of countries, like the People’s Republic of China, with which modern Trinidad and Tobago has significant co-operative and investment arrangements.

MATT urges the Government to review the Sedition Act with a view to repealing it and calls on the TTPS to account for what can be interpreted as selective application of the law’s provisions. Press freedom and freedom of expression are constitutional rights guaranteed to all people of Trinidad and Tobago.

On Independence Day 2019, MATT renews its mandate as a key advocate for freedom of expression, press freedom and the promotion of independent journalism.

MATT members are invited to a general membership meeting on Saturday 14 September 2019 at 10am at a venue to be announced. The meeting will be twinned with a documentary screening and discussion on online harassment of journalists. Membership renewals will also be conducted.


https://wired868.com/2019/08/31/matt-sedition-act-potentially-criminalises-journalists-activists-etc-govt-should-review-and-repeal/

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby bluefete » September 1st, 2019, 10:23 am

No police going and act on their own accord. Rowley, Young, Faris or Imbert put them up to it.

The DPP will be the final link in the chain to say whether to charge or not.

There is a letter written in today's Express that is just WOW. A pity I cannot get the full thing online.

"On the road to dictatorship


“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” (Martin Niemöller, 1946)

First they came for Sat Maharaj and I said nothing. Then they came for Watson Duke and I woke up because a pattern is being followed... When the police first raided Radio Jaagriti in April, they used the Sedition Act, Chapter 11:04, Section 13, to defend their actions. Someone in high office took offence at the fact that Sat, using previously reported and published data, made certain utterances."

16 cycles wrote:Who (gov't, DPP? Etc.) thinks it is sedition and does a formal complaint have to be lodged for police to act on or they can act of their own accord?

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby hydroep » September 1st, 2019, 10:26 am

Now if Kamla de do dat...:|

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby rebound » September 1st, 2019, 10:30 am

Good point...so who reported it is more important here..
16 cycles wrote:Who (gov't, DPP? Etc.) thinks it is sedition and does a formal complaint have to be lodged for police to act on or they can act of their own accord?

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby Redman » September 1st, 2019, 10:31 am

hydroep wrote:Now if Kamla de do dat...:|


Of course the State of Emergency was small potatoes compared to this.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2019, 11:15 am

Redman wrote:
hydroep wrote:Now if Kamla de do dat...:|


Of course the State of Emergency was small potatoes compared to this.
SOE Was needed to deal with PNM gangs

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2019, 11:23 am

Redman wrote:
zoom rader wrote:^^& Matt should hull dey MC , they all PNM &,1% reporters .


So you disagreeing with them because they are PNM and or 1%.
Putting a plaster on sore, they trying to show they are neutral to save face that they are a responsible for good and unbiased reporting.

It you or others believe these PNM reporters then do continue voting PNM

So far the population is please by the action of the PNM police and DPP.

No protess, so we live in beautiful country.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby 88sins » September 1st, 2019, 3:37 pm

I watching d scn, just glad to see some people observing what taking place.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2019, 4:34 pm

88sins wrote:I watching d scn, just glad to see some people observing what taking place.
Yeah but the real PNM ppl on here are all silent, they are the very same that support the 1% ppl

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby De Dragon » September 1st, 2019, 6:08 pm

Redman wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:This is nothing more than an attempt To silence criticism and opposition to this useless corrupt government


Thereby establishing a NEW line of criticism as heavy handed,

by using a law that expressly defines POLITICAL criticism as NOT Sedition,

all for someone that is not a real threat.

Criticism from who, Opposition? That will be in place always. What they are doing with Duke, is not their current tactic like with Ramlogan and Ramdeen, which is to paint Indos as corrupt and thieving. They seem to be intent on silencing and reducing Duke's appeal by painting him as seditious. Duke, for all his foolish bombast, is a real threat in Tobago, and to produce another colleague of ill repute like Nelson to testify would look suspicious. So it seems JUHN Scarfy's handlers have advised him of a course to hamstring Duke just in time for the GE. Dummies in the PNM like Tokesy, elitecorolla, Red Plastic Bag, Tolee, aka one eye, lap up these things as gospel, and they are merely representative of the PNM as a whole, so this is an appeal to a gullible, ovine base.

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2019, 7:22 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:This is nothing more than an attempt To silence criticism and opposition to this useless corrupt government


Thereby establishing a NEW line of criticism as heavy handed,

by using a law that expressly defines POLITICAL criticism as NOT Sedition,

all for someone that is not a real threat.

Criticism from who, Opposition? That will be in place always. What they are doing with Duke, is not their current tactic like with Ramlogan and Ramdeen, which is to paint Indos as corrupt and thieving. They seem to be intent on silencing and reducing Duke's appeal by painting him as seditious. Duke, for all his foolish bombast, is a real threat in Tobago, and to produce another colleague of ill repute like Nelson to testify would look suspicious. So it seems JUHN Scarfy's handlers have advised him of a course to hamstring Duke just in time for the GE. Dummies in the PNM like Tokesy, elitecorolla, Red Plastic Bag, Tolee, aka one eye, lap up these things as gospel, and they are merely representative of the PNM as a whole, so this is an appeal to a gullible, ovine base.
Elitecorolla is not pleased
 

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Re: Watson Duke Charged For Sedition!!

Postby Redman » September 1st, 2019, 8:15 pm

So you think Duke is hamstrung by another charge, besides a rape charge,under a law that expressly states that he can continue to make political statements without it being seditious?

If the ttps was so politically controlled and Duke such a threat the rape charge would be enough.

Just read the act.
It creates the space for political criticism.

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