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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 AND 5/8THs YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2020, 11:02 am

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Postby The_Honourable » May 12th, 2020, 11:49 am

Translated from Spanish to English:

Borges on Delcy's trip to Trinidad and Tobago: "They seek to sign oil and gas agreements»

The regime's vice president was in Trinidad and Tobago, and the Trinidadian government's website indicated that the visit was to discuss pandemic issues.

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Julio Borges, presidential commissioner for Venezuela's Foreign Relations, assured that the trip that the vice-president of the regime, Delcy Rodríguez, made to Trinidad and Tobago in March was not to deal with issues of the pandemic , but to seek to sign oil and gas agreements.

“Delcy Rodríguez's hidden trip to Trinidad and Tobago was not to treat the pandemic. Asdrúbal Chávez and other PDVSA officials accompanied her , seeking to sign oil and gas agreements , " Borges wrote on Twitter .

In early April, Suzette Louwe, a journalist from Trinidad and Tobago reported that Rodríguez had been in that country and that the Trinidadian government's website indicated that the visit was to discuss issues of the pandemic.

“ We have world leaders who are discussing this issue with other world leaders through video-conferences and phone calls because they understand how highly contagious this virus is. What was so urgent for this woman to be here. He had to fill up a jet with fuel, travel to Trinidad and Tobago and return to Venezuela in 24 or 48 hours, ”the journalist asked in a video she published on her social networks .

Rodríguez's trip came a day after the DEA announced that Nicolás Maduro and part of his cabinet are accused of drug trafficking .

"The prime minister said that the borders were closed, but they were open for Delcy Rodríguez, " he added.

Louwe also indicated that Rodríguez not only traveled with an airplane, but with two private jets.

"There is a source who has told me that his true purpose was to search for gasoline," he said.

Julio Borges Tweet: https://twitter.com/JulioBorges/status/ ... 6884096002

Source: https://www.elnacional.com/venezuela/bo ... gasiferos/

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Re: PNM in Gov't -AH WHOLE 4 AND 5/8THs YEARS LATER!!!!!

Postby K74T » May 12th, 2020, 2:45 pm

LOL @ Suzie Luzie being a "journalist"

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 12th, 2020, 3:33 pm

K74T wrote:LOL @ Suzie Luzie being a "journalist"


The bar for journalist is pretty low. I mean if Rhoda Bharath is one and gets invis from Min of Com to press conferences then basically anyone with a keyboard can be one.

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Postby rspann » May 12th, 2020, 3:39 pm

Redman wrote:Plausible reason for them to be here is easy.

Plausible reason for the BS handling of the matter is the hard part.

Plausible dont mean that they can admit to it.


I do not think that the meeting had much to do with the fuel.
It really is way to much janjat in terms of the meeting to deal with a load of fuel.
Flights are easier to monitor in this airspace than isolating a call or email or a small quick trip across the main.

Other things were dealt with.....still waiting on the exit from the PM.

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If you are interested in the truth-and are so inclined...you should really look at the timeline on the Section 34 issue.

There is a material difference between what was passed in the lower house on Nov 18 2011 and what the UNC cabinet approved on Aug 16 2012, and then was then proclaimed.

In 2012 the UNC cabinet approved Section 34 as modified by Volney.

If the facts are different please show...and we can discuss the facts.


You correct . H Val. Knee pull out section 34 out of the wider laws that were supposed to be promulgated and rushed that through. He probably didn't want to return whatever he received as an advance .

The fact remains that the Senate and the parliament were derelict in their duty and care in checking what they approved. Helen Drayton even apologized for her role in the matter and said it was careless of her . The PNM got outsmarted and that's why I said they were incompetent .

It was supposed to be only enacted after all supporting mechanisms were completed .

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Postby K74T » May 12th, 2020, 4:11 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
K74T wrote:LOL @ Suzie Luzie being a "journalist"


The bar for journalist is pretty low. I mean if Rhoda Bharath is one and gets invis from Min of Com to press conferences then basically anyone with a keyboard can be one.
Worse yet this quack lady from "Astrenut Health News"

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Postby matr1x » May 12th, 2020, 4:43 pm

So what was in the container?

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Postby Redman » May 12th, 2020, 4:56 pm

rspann wrote:
Redman wrote:Plausible reason for them to be here is easy.

Plausible reason for the BS handling of the matter is the hard part.

Plausible dont mean that they can admit to it.


I do not think that the meeting had much to do with the fuel.
It really is way to much janjat in terms of the meeting to deal with a load of fuel.
Flights are easier to monitor in this airspace than isolating a call or email or a small quick trip across the main.

Other things were dealt with.....still waiting on the exit from the PM.

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If you are interested in the truth-and are so inclined...you should really look at the timeline on the Section 34 issue.

There is a material difference between what was passed in the lower house on Nov 18 2011 and what the UNC cabinet approved on Aug 16 2012, and then was then proclaimed.

In 2012 the UNC cabinet approved Section 34 as modified by Volney.

If the facts are different please show...and we can discuss the facts.


You correct . H Val. Knee pull out section 34 out of the wider laws that were supposed to be promulgated and rushed that through. He probably didn't want to return whatever he received as an advance .

The fact remains that the Senate and the parliament were derelict in their duty and care in checking what they approved. Helen Drayton even apologized for her role in the matter and said it was careless of her . The PNM got outsmarted and that's why I said they were incompetent .

It was supposed to be only enacted after all supporting mechanisms were completed .


I believe V changed it after the Senate vote.- Im not 100% sure

The fact that the cabinet extracted Section 34, approved Section 34 by itself shows quite a bit of intent -and certainly takes up the CULPABILITY in full.

There is a big difference in the responsibility of the Parliament and the Culpability of a Cabinet, who INTENTIONALLY and quite deliberately cherry picked Section 34 for approval -knowing that the conditions they agreed to in Parliament were not met.

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Postby The_Honourable » May 12th, 2020, 5:08 pm

Liar Liar


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Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2020, 5:55 pm

So PNM spend almost 1 billion on convid So far.

Anyone receive from this?

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Postby gastly369 » May 12th, 2020, 6:30 pm

Susshhhh KFC open back.....
zoom rader wrote:So PNM spend almost 1 billion on convid So far.

Anyone receive from this?

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Postby maj. tom » May 12th, 2020, 6:44 pm

WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?

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Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2020, 7:08 pm

maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?
Maybe Redman and elite can explain

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 12th, 2020, 7:12 pm

maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?


Pnm mites say was to bail out businesses...others say the financiers getting ready for later on

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Postby Redman » May 12th, 2020, 7:16 pm

zoom rader wrote:
maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?
Maybe Redman and elite can explain


I would love to know myself.

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Postby zoom rader » May 12th, 2020, 7:19 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?


Pnm mites say was to bail out businesses...others say the financiers getting ready for later on
You mean 1% get de money?

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Postby viedcht » May 12th, 2020, 7:32 pm

I print and helped 22 applications/applicants; 17 online, and not one of those 22 had any feedback, or received sh!t from social development grants. And there are a alot of others who are still waiting.

And 1billian Yuh say? Is not wtf, is WTFFMC
maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?

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Postby antlind » May 12th, 2020, 7:38 pm

maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?


Bye bye Heritage Fund.

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Postby rspann » May 12th, 2020, 8:06 pm

Not that much spent already . It's projected to reach there by September . That would be the total .

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Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2020, 8:15 pm

so is there a process to query relief applications ?
because it look like nobody get yet.

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Postby Gladiator » May 12th, 2020, 8:37 pm

maj. tom wrote:WTF $1B ?! And people eh even get grants. Who they giving money to?


And allyuh thought the PNM coulda just cancel that prisoner transport contract and they go roll over and take that jusso???

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Postby NR8 » May 12th, 2020, 11:17 pm

rspann wrote:Not that much spent already . It's projected to reach there by September . That would be the total .

T&T's $6 billion COVID bill

The Government relief programmes to offset the negative impact of COVID-19 is expected to cost the country six billion dollars.

This was the projected figure given by Finance Minister Colm Imbert as he gave a breakdown of Government spending to date and projected expenditure to the end of September, during the daily virtual COVID-19 press conference today.

Government has already spent $934m up to yesterday on COVID relief, and when you add everything up including the VAT bonds, the Caribbean Airlines facility and so on, the total is six billion dollars.”

Imbert said $700m in outstanding VAT refunds have been paid in cash with another $3b to be paid in VAT bonds, which is expected to start this week.

He also stated that Caribbean Airlines will receive support from the Government.

“As you will realise Caribbean Airlines is earning no money at this point in time, so that we have secured a 65 million US dollar loan (TT$442m) to assist Caribbean Airlines. We may need to give WASA (Water and Sewerage Authority) some supplementary funding, that is being looked at right now.

He said in his capacity as Corporation Sole, he has signed agreements with the umbrella body of credit unions to make available $100m for the membership of some 20 credit unions, and that may be increased in due course with another provision geared towards small business lending within the credit union movement.

Imbert added that the provision to credit union is for them to make loans available to their membership at a significantly reduced rate of around three percent.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Health, which has been at the centre of the country’s COVID-19 battle, has also received significant support.

“The Ministry of Health so far has spent $55 million dollars. We expect them to spend somewhere in the vicinity of $137 million, and this is not an easily determinable figure because if for example there would be an increase in the number of cases, God forbid, then the Ministry of Health would have to spend some more money.

“In addition if a decision is taken or if it is possible for university students to come back to Trinidad and Tobago, they would have to be quarantined and that’s an expense on the Ministry of Health. So we have an additional provision for the Ministry of Health of $250 million dollars. We expect their actual expenditure to be $137m plus $250m,” Imbert said.

Following is a breakdown of relief support expended to date:

1. Ministry of Social Development and Family Services: Amount spent - $98.1m; projected total - $400m

Support provided - Food cards, cash support cards, food and income support for retrenched persons, rental assistance, food vouchers and hampers, support to old age pension, disability and public assistance applicants who are not yet in receipt of the benefits.

2. Office of the Prime Minister: Amount spent - $10m; projected expenditure - $30m

Funding to religious organizations to provide food for the poor and needy through their normal distribution programmes.

3. Ministry of Agriculture: Amount spent - $1.3m; projected expenditure - $10.7m

Provision of fresh produce to those in need.

4. Ministry of National Security: Amount spent - $3.7m; projected expenditure - $8.3m

Additional expenditure for its various divisions.

5. Ministry of Health: Amount spent - $55m; projected expenditure $137m + provisional $250m

Funding for resources in mitigating spread of COVID-19, and for contingency spending in anticipation of a worsening of the country’s infection status.

6. Ministry of Finance:

(i). Salary Relief Grants: Amount spent - $12m; projected expenditure - $490m

Salary support to persons under the National Insurance Scheme who have been retrenched or in receipt of reduced income as a direct result of COVID-19 measures implemented by the Government.

(ii). Credit Unions: projected expenditure - $100m

Low interest loan support to the membership of 20 credit unions.

(iii). VAT refunds: Amount spent - $700m; projected expenditure - $3.7b

(iv). Face masks: Projected expenditure - $5m

Face masks will be made available to the public free of charge.

(v). Caribbean Airline: Projected expenditure – US$65m (TTS442m)

Support to state-owned Caribbean Airlines, which has lost it income earning capacity due to the closing of the country’s borders.

7. Tobago

(i). Tobago Regional Health Authority: Amount allocated – S50m

Support for its response to COVID-19

(ii). Tobago House of Assembly: Amount allocated - $5m

To facilitate enterprise development

(iii). Hotel Upgrades: Amount allocated - $50m

(iv). SMEs funding: Amount to be provided - $300m

Support to the small and medium enterprises in the form of a loan programme where loans will be subsidised by the Government in addition to standing as guarantor.

8. Ministry of Rural Development and Local Government

(i). Sanitisation programmes: Amount spent - $3.4m; projected expenditure - $16m

(ii). Food support: Amount spent - $10m; projected expenditure - $30m

9. Trinidad and Tobago Police Service: Amount spent - $5.3m; projected expenditure - $15.3m

Funding for the purchase of personal protective equipment (PPE).

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/t-ts-6-billion-covid-bill/article_43236ec2-9460-11ea-b55b-3f3cc90cd1f6.html

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Postby NR8 » May 12th, 2020, 11:25 pm

Even in midst of a globalfuckinpandemic agriculture gets the least spent yes :lol:

One may question why the Office of the Prime Minister would require an extraordinary relief of $30m.

Also, expect somebody to eat ah food with face mask distribution.

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 12th, 2020, 11:49 pm

Kamla MC!!!!

"The United States Embassy has said that Government violated the 73-year-old Rio Treaty when Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez landed in the country.

“Delcy Rodriguez is subject to travel sanctions that are binding on all Rio Treaty parties, and Trinidad and Tobago is a party to the treaty,” the Embassy said.

The Rio Treaty, otherwise known as the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, is an agreement between countries in the Western Hemisphere as part of a mutual defence system.

The treaty provides for mutual assistance if an act of aggression threatens the peace of the Western Hemisphere."

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/us-tt-vi ... d4a640dff6

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Postby Gladiator » May 12th, 2020, 11:54 pm

Reddress Reddress.... come here boy, DEFEND DEFEND.... take him down, take him... DEFEND

Dizzy28 wrote:Kamla MC!!!!

"The United States Embassy has said that Government violated the 73-year-old Rio Treaty when Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez landed in the country.

“Delcy Rodriguez is subject to travel sanctions that are binding on all Rio Treaty parties, and Trinidad and Tobago is a party to the treaty,” the Embassy said.

The Rio Treaty, otherwise known as the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, is an agreement between countries in the Western Hemisphere as part of a mutual defence system.

The treaty provides for mutual assistance if an act of aggression threatens the peace of the Western Hemisphere."

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/us-tt-vi ... d4a640dff6
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Postby Dizzy28 » May 13th, 2020, 12:00 am

Redress and the rest of PNM sheep trying to get their stories right. Even Stewie and Rowliar so bazodee that they differing with each other on the details of that meeting. fuss they get catch as the treasonous little shits they are

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Postby zoom rader » May 13th, 2020, 1:09 am

Seems Rowlee and the PNM are the real culprits of treason against the people of T&T

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Postby zoom rader » May 13th, 2020, 1:10 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Kamla MC!!!!

"The United States Embassy has said that Government violated the 73-year-old Rio Treaty when Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez landed in the country.

“Delcy Rodriguez is subject to travel sanctions that are binding on all Rio Treaty parties, and Trinidad and Tobago is a party to the treaty,” the Embassy said.

The Rio Treaty, otherwise known as the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance, is an agreement between countries in the Western Hemisphere as part of a mutual defence system.

The treaty provides for mutual assistance if an act of aggression threatens the peace of the Western Hemisphere."

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/us-tt-vi ... d4a640dff6
Redman, redress and elite go say no laws were broken

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Postby sMASH » May 13th, 2020, 1:15 am

zoom rader wrote:Seems Rowlee and the PNM are the real culprits of treason against the people of T&T

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Postby Redress10 » May 13th, 2020, 1:27 am

Alluh be smarter.

Plenty times that treaty has been violated.

No big deal. An official statement from the US doesn't mean action is going to be taken against TT. They will prob have some discussion at the OAS and that'll be it.

OAS is also where they have the baccanal with the Lima group so not sure how functional that treaty is. Uruguay left and returned after 6 months because of objection to action taken against Venezuela.

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