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matr1x wrote:Hail satan
one eye wrote:When the government is trying to keep this outbreak from getting worse, you have a nasty opposition who instead of teaming up to fight, plays politics to win elections later this year and fails miserably.
Same people in this forum who praising the devil is the same ones who voting Kamla.
rspann wrote:Oneeye ,
Yes , Kamla irritating now but when the were trying to deal with it before it spiralled, that is 24 Jan and four other times they were shot down and the speaker said it was NOT a matter of importance andf they had no support from the govt . Yet six days later the WHO said it was and the president deemed it as such. Where was the teaming up to fight then ? Explain that.
zoom rader wrote:rspann wrote:Oneeye ,
Yes , Kamla irritating now but when the were trying to deal with it before it spiralled, that is 24 Jan and four other times they were shot down and the speaker said it was NOT a matter of importance andf they had no support from the govt . Yet six days later the WHO said it was and the president deemed it as such. Where was the teaming up to fight then ? Explain that.
Stop explaining these things to elite ppl nah , dem head hard
Hansard records and PNM ppl brains don't go hand in hand
And what actions did PNM take to protect the nation, it seems they evaded the questions and passed the buck. Nothing was done and look where we are today.Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:rspann wrote:Oneeye ,
Yes , Kamla irritating now but when the were trying to deal with it before it spiralled, that is 24 Jan and four other times they were shot down and the speaker said it was NOT a matter of importance andf they had no support from the govt . Yet six days later the WHO said it was and the president deemed it as such. Where was the teaming up to fight then ? Explain that.
Stop explaining these things to elite ppl nah , dem head hard
Hansard records and PNM ppl brains don't go hand in hand
AGAIN you quote a source of information that clearly shows you wrong.
Hansard that actually confirms that:
1)You have never read the Hansard
2)You did not witness the Sittings-whether Senate nor Lower House.
3)What certainly isnt hand in hand is reality and your POV.
As of today the Hansard site starts with a Jan 24 2020 report and ends with a March 25 2020 report.
The Hansard shows:
1)There were around 4 times that the UNC raised Covid 19 in a Urgent Motion denied by the Speaker.
100% of these instances were:
2)preceded by multiple Qs ON COVID ANSWERED by the PM on Covid 19
OR
3)Succeeded by an actual address AND debate ON COVID 19 by the PM,Min of Health or some other relevant person.
4)The question/motion moved and dealt with.
5)On a few of the occasions the Speaker denys the UNC motion but mentions that the matters were actually dealt with earlier or will be dealt with later.
IE the UNC raised these 'Urgent Questions" after the UNC FINISHED asking ALL their questions ON COVID 19 or knowing that they will have a chance to debate later that session.
6)A Search for the word COVID proves that Covid has been discussed by both sides at length in almost every session this year.
Hansard shows that.
Nice try protecting PNM, .
actually I never did read it but saw it on the parliament channel , I recall it was brought up
As I said I saw it on the parliament channel.Redman wrote:Nice try protecting PNM, .
If it is that I state a fact that contradicts your position-then your position isnt based on Fact.
If the truth is my 'defense'(your word) then what is your position?actually I never did read it but saw it on the parliament channel , I recall it was brought up
no sheeeeit.
zoom rader wrote:As I said I saw it on the parliament channel.Redman wrote:Nice try protecting PNM, .
If it is that I state a fact that contradicts your position-then your position isnt based on Fact.
If the truth is my 'defense'(your word) then what is your position?actually I never did read it but saw it on the parliament channel , I recall it was brought up
no sheeeeit.
You on the other hand knew jack 5hit about it cause you just had to do a search on it to see if it was really brought up in parliament.
zoom rader wrote:^^^Redman, one eye, Randolphinshan, mero, elite, rspann, MG macomereman, Dwane, dem doh see it dat way.
Redman trying hard to change the focus.The_Honourable wrote:Circulating on the fb
That's why I asked him what did the PNM do about it.De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
zoom rader wrote:That's why I asked him what did the PNM do about it.De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
He himself never knew it was brought up in parliament, that's why he had to do a search to find it.
De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
...if it bothers you so much and it's that bad maybe you should do the research,post the facts in some detail,and actually make a contribution to the discussion.
As shown above the UNC is getting weaker heads to buy into the position that they were muzzled,or ignored.
They were not. Not in the least.
Was there enough of the right discussion s in parliament?
We're the right things discussed?
Maybe maybe not.
The opposition had ample time to raise what they saw fit to raise.
That's my point.
rspann wrote:So lewwe start over. The opposition / speaker discussion I raised ,was in response to one eye who said they should e working together to solve the COVID problem. My point was that when they were trying to discuss ,which would involve working together , they were ignored. The govt brought up the topic ,yes , and the opposition made submissions ,yes, but the opportunity to work together for a way forward was never given . It was one sided.
He seems upsetshake d livin wake d dead wrote:Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
...if it bothers you so much and it's that bad maybe you should do the research,post the facts in some detail,and actually make a contribution to the discussion.
As shown above the UNC is getting weaker heads to buy into the position that they were muzzled,or ignored.
They were not. Not in the least.
Was there enough of the right discussion s in parliament?
We're the right things discussed?
Maybe maybe not.
The opposition had ample time to raise what they saw fit to raise.
That's my point.
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you read before you type??
there are several vids(even on the parliament station) showing how the speaker denied the opposition to speak about the COVID case...So, by your estimation, how can there be "right discussions" if they were denied taking up the issue???? The opposition tried to raise the matter 5 times and got shutdown....So what ample time you speak of???
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
...if it bothers you so much and it's that bad maybe you should do the research,post the facts in some detail,and actually make a contribution to the discussion.
As shown above the UNC is getting weaker heads to buy into the position that they were muzzled,or ignored.
They were not. Not in the least.
Was there enough of the right discussion s in parliament?
We're the right things discussed?
Maybe maybe not.
The opposition had ample time to raise what they saw fit to raise.
That's my point.
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you read before you type??
there are several vids(even on the parliament station) showing how the speaker denied the opposition to speak about the COVID case...So, by your estimation, how can there be "right discussions" if they were denied taking up the issue???? The opposition tried to raise the matter 5 times and got shutdown....So what ample time you speak of???
You had to read it, I saw it on the parliament channel. UNC was way ahead of the game. PNM was sleeping and did nothing that's why we in this mess now.Redman wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
...if it bothers you so much and it's that bad maybe you should do the research,post the facts in some detail,and actually make a contribution to the discussion.
As shown above the UNC is getting weaker heads to buy into the position that they were muzzled,or ignored.
They were not. Not in the least.
Was there enough of the right discussion s in parliament?
We're the right things discussed?
Maybe maybe not.
The opposition had ample time to raise what they saw fit to raise.
That's my point.
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you read before you type??
there are several vids(even on the parliament station) showing how the speaker denied the opposition to speak about the COVID case...So, by your estimation, how can there be "right discussions" if they were denied taking up the issue???? The opposition tried to raise the matter 5 times and got shutdown....So what ample time you speak of???
You actually read the Hansard..?
Eg:
Questions to the PM....UNC asked 2 q on COVID,both answered at length with follow ups
They then move on to other issues with about 4 other topics.
Then they move to a urgent motion to discuss the COVID.
Speaker says no...and mentions that they asked the questions and did not have any un answered.
Or the speaker says no...cuz COVID is on the agenda already.
Or there is already a fricking bill on the table to be discussed.
So the motions Were being denied.due to there being existing dialogue ..it is not that the PNM blocked the discussion of COVID in parliament
The motions were denied.
COVID was discussed in every session.
If the UNC had any real concerns...they don’t show up in the parliamentary records
yes I checked because I want to know why the motions were blocked and what were the reasons
You check the Hansard,
Don’t stand up on ZR hand.
zoom rader wrote:You had to read it, I saw it on the parliament channel. UNC was way ahead of the game. PNM was sleeping and did nothing that's why we in this mess now.Redman wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:Notice in the Red Plastic Bag reply, there is no criticism of the shoddy response to the outbreak, nor is there any now. All the Hansard searching and he can't summarize what exactly was "dealt with" in denying the motion, nor why was the Opposition sufficiently alarmed to continue to raise it while PNM stinkness led to their usual arrogant dismissive response.
Now here we are. Thanks PNM!
...if it bothers you so much and it's that bad maybe you should do the research,post the facts in some detail,and actually make a contribution to the discussion.
As shown above the UNC is getting weaker heads to buy into the position that they were muzzled,or ignored.
They were not. Not in the least.
Was there enough of the right discussion s in parliament?
We're the right things discussed?
Maybe maybe not.
The opposition had ample time to raise what they saw fit to raise.
That's my point.
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you read before you type??
there are several vids(even on the parliament station) showing how the speaker denied the opposition to speak about the COVID case...So, by your estimation, how can there be "right discussions" if they were denied taking up the issue???? The opposition tried to raise the matter 5 times and got shutdown....So what ample time you speak of???
You actually read the Hansard..?
Eg:
Questions to the PM....UNC asked 2 q on COVID,both answered at length with follow ups
They then move on to other issues with about 4 other topics.
Then they move to a urgent motion to discuss the COVID.
Speaker says no...and mentions that they asked the questions and did not have any un answered.
Or the speaker says no...cuz COVID is on the agenda already.
Or there is already a fricking bill on the table to be discussed.
So the motions Were being denied.due to there being existing dialogue ..it is not that the PNM blocked the discussion of COVID in parliament
The motions were denied.
COVID was discussed in every session.
If the UNC had any real concerns...they don’t show up in the parliamentary records
yes I checked because I want to know why the motions were blocked and what were the reasons
You check the Hansard,
Don’t stand up on ZR hand.
Non PNM ppl then to think for the time ahead while you lot think only for today.
What's the point UNC brought it up and PNM ignored it, now look where we are.The_Honourable wrote:hansard hanard hansard but no links.
Redman, link we the exact Hansard records on the Parliament website that backs up your claim.
zoom rader wrote:What's the point UNC brought it up and PNM ignored it, now look where we are.The_Honourable wrote:hansard hanard hansard but no links.
Redman, link we the exact Hansard records on the Parliament website that backs up your claim.
He trying to save PNM with their mis-management. He never even knew it was brought up until spann had to put one eye in this place .
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