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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 9:34 pm

wing wrote:Bluefete and others, I'm sure you have realised by now that every attempt at a discussion ends up being an exchange of insults. Let them and those like them beat up among themselves. Let's focus our attention on eradication of the threat to the next generation.


When people can lo longer defend the indefensible, they resort to insults.

It is no accident that this topic of trans-genderism has suddenly blown up in our society. It is heartening to see the huge numbers of people who understand that this is not about adults but the careful targetting of certain information to our children.

The HFLE Curriculum for primary schools makes provision for the teaching of ""misconception of gender" to Stds.1-5 (pg.19).

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 8th, 2023, 9:40 pm

But if this "threat" occurs randomly genetically at 7 to 10% in every generation in every population, how do you eradicate this threat? What are your plans of eradication?

It's ok to be an online nazi in 2023. And it's ok to feel insulted if you're a said loser nazi who is openly expressing these ideas on a forum.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 9:43 pm

maj. tom wrote:Is that what dissociative identity disorder really is? They can switch personalities at will whenever?
butttt...sooo....you are saying.....it's really demon possession......okkkkkk. *faceplam* this is the intellectual level of this Trinituner "discussion."

Guys is being left handed a mental illness? Some people I know may need to be psychiatrically medicated.


Oh no. They are just playing with and losing themselves to other personalities and other worlds. When I was much younger I had a book that published research done on these people - together with pictures.

Monday- Johnny would come out. Tuesday, it was Jackie. Wednesday- it was Jeffrey's turn. Thursday - when you asked to speak with Johnny, Jermain would tell you no. Friday, it was Jonathan. Some days, 4 or 5 personalities would come out from this ONE PERSON.

But to the researchers, he was not sick. He was normal! That is your argument as well for trans people. They are normal while targetting children into their fold. The LGBTQ's are all about flaunting their sexuality for everyone to see.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 9:52 pm

maj. tom wrote:But if this "threat" occurs randomly genetically at 7 to 10% in every generation in every population, how do you eradicate this threat? What are your plans of eradication?

It's ok to be an online nazi in 2023. And it's ok to feel insulted if you're a said loser nazi who is openly expressing these ideas on a forum.


You are the one talking about eradication. The point was made before that the alphabets have been part of human civilisation from way back when. Eunuchs were the earliest trans - not so. Chop of the penis to serve in the king's harem. Unfortunately, there was no surgery in those days to "convert them to female". Well, you know what I mean.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 9:53 pm

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SuperiorMan wrote:Guys what is a woman?


Notice is how only bluefete answer this.


They have no clue how to answer this because they are so involved in marginalising the word "woman."

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 9:57 pm

Most if not all of these people are looking for attention. The more outrageous they behave, the greater the attention they get from the media.

adnj wrote:Transgender people should definitely take the advice offered in this thread to avoid the miserable and lackluster lives that are waiting for them if they don't. /s
Transgender celebs you need to know

Elliot Page

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In December 2020, Elliot Page, star of the Netflix series "Umbrella Academy," announced that he is transgender.

In May 2021, in an interview with Oprah, the actor spoke about the benefits of gender-affirming healthcare. "It's getting out of the shower and the towel is around your waist and you're looking at yourself in the mirror and you're just like, 'There I am,'" Page said.

Zaya Wade

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Zaya Wade is the eldest daughter of retired NBA superstar Dwyane Wade. Zaya publicly came out as trans in 2019. She celebrated her 14th birthday with a rollerskating-themed party in May 2021.

Dwyane Wade said, in an interview on NBC's "TODAY," "She's the strong one in this family. She's a hero."

Leyna Bloom

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Leyna Bloom made history in July 2021 as the first transgender woman to appear on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.

In a celebratory Instagram post, Bloom wrote, "We deserve this moment; we have waited millions of years to show up as survivors and be seen as full humans filled with wonder."

Kataluna Enriquez

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Kataluna Enriquez made history in June 2021 when she was crowned Miss Nevada USA. With this victory, Enriquez became the first openly transgender Miss USA contestant.

In a celebratory post, she wrote on Instagram, "My community, you are always in my heart. My win is our win. We just made history. Happy pride."

Laverne Cox

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Laverne Cox is best known for her role as Sophia Burset on the hit Netflix show "Orange Is the New Black." In 2014, she became the first openly transgender person to be nominated for a Primetime Emmy Award; one year later, she became the first to win a Daytime Emmy.

Indya Moore

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Indya Moore is an actor and model known for playing Angel Evangelista in the FX series "Pose."

The star was named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world in 2019. Moore is transgender and non-binary and uses they/them and she/her pronouns.

Hunter Schafer

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Hunter Schafer is a model, actress and activist. She got her start in the entertainment industry as a model for international brands such Prada, Dior, Rick Owens, Tommy Hilfiger and Vera Wang.

In 2018, she was cast to play Jules in the HBO series "Euphoria."

Laura Jane Grace

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Laura Jane Grace is a punk rock musician best known for founding the band Against Me!.

Grace is among the first high-profile punk rock stars to live openly as a transgender person. She publicly came out in an interview with Rolling Stone in May 2012.

Valentina Sampaio

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Brazilian model and actress Valentina Sampaio has logged a lot of "firsts" in her career. In 2019, she became Victoria's Secret's first openly transgender model.

And in 2020, she broke yet another glass ceiling when she became the first openly transgender model to appear in Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Issue.

Peppermint

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Peppermint is the stage name of New York drag performer Agnes Moore.

Fans of "RuPaul's Drag Race" will recall Peppermint's skillful lip-sync performances that earned her the nickname the "Lip Sync Assassin."

Janet Mock

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Janet Mock is a writer, director and producer on the FX series "Pose." Her memoir, "Redefining Realness," reached the New York Times bestseller list in 2014.

She is a contributing editor for Marie Claire.

Caitlyn Jenner

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On June 1, 2015, the world got its first glimpse of Caitlyn Jenner, when Vanity Fair released an Annie Leibovitz photo on its July cover.

In 2021, the former Olympic champion and reality TV personality announced a run as a Republican candidate for California governor.

Chaz Bono

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Chaz Bono is the only child of American pop performers Sonny and Cher.

Bono documented his transition in the 2011 film, "Becoming Chaz." That same year, he competed on the 13th season of "Dancing with the Stars."

Jazz Jennings

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American activist and TV personality Jazz Jennings was just seven years old when she stepped into the spotlight by discussing her experience as a transgender kid in a "20/20" interview with Barbara Walters.

During that 2007 interview, Jennings' parents noted that Jazz, despite being assigned male at birth, knew she was female from the moment she could talk. These days, you can find Jennings on her YouTube channel and on the TLC reality series "I Am Jazz."

Gigi Gorgeous

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Gigi Gorgeous is a Canadian YouTuber and socialite. Gigi came out as transgender in 2013 and documented her transition, including her experience with cosmetic procedures, on social media.

She is married to Nats Getty, great-grandchild of oil tycoon J. Paul Getty. Getty came out as transgender and non-binary in January 2021.

Rachel Levine

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Rachel Levine is the assistant secretary for health in the United States Department of Health and Human Services. Joe Biden appointed Levine in February 2021. The U.S. Senate voted to confirm her nomination in March.

Levine is the first openly transgender person to hold an office that requires Senate confirmation.

Lana Wachowski

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Lana Wachowski is one half of the sibling duo famous for directing the "Matrix" trilogy and "Cloud Atlas." Wachowski came out as transgender in 2010.

In addition to directing many notable films with her younger sister (who is also a trans woman), Lana is also a screenwriter, producer and comic book publisher.

Lilly Wachowski

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In 2016, Lily Wachowski, younger sister and filmmaking partner to Lana, came out as transgender. Lilly Wachowski made her announcement in a personal statement to the Windy City Times and GLAAD.

"So yeah, I'm transgender," Lily wrote, "And yeah, I've transitioned. I'm out to my friends and family... Everyone is cool with it. Yes, thanks to my fabulous sister they've done it before, but also because they're fantastic people. Without the love and support of my wife and friends and family I would not be where I am today."

[img]Trace%20Lysette[/img]

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Actress Trace Lysette publicly came out as transgender through her role as Shea, a trans yoga teacher, in the Amazon series "Transparent."

Lysette made her blockbuster feature debut in the 2019 crime comedy-drama "Hustlers," starring alongside Lizzo, Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez, Constance Wu and more.

Sophie

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Sophie Xeon, known by many as Sophie, was a Scottish electronic musician and record producer. The enigmatic star earned a Grammy nomination in 2018 for Best Dance/Electronic Album.

Sophie died in January 2021, following an accidental fall from an apartment balcony in Athens, Greece.

Hari Nef

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American model Hari Nef made her runway debut during 2015's New York Fashion Week, walking for the labels Hood By Air and Eckhaus Latta.

Shortly afterward, she became one of the first openly transgender people to be signed by powerhouse modeling agency IMG.

Valentijn De Hingh

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Dutch model Valentijn De Hingh is another transgender woman signed to IMG.

Born in Amersterdam, De Hingh spent nearly a decade (ages 8 to 17) as the subject of a documentary on transgender children. Today, you can find De Hingh performing DJ sets in her hometown and walking runways in Paris.

Lili Elbe

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Lili Elbe is notable for being the first transgender woman to openly undergo gender-confirming surgery in 1930.

Her storied life has been the subject of two books, including David Ebershoff's international bestseller "The Danish Girl," which was later adapted into a film starring Eddie Redmayne.

Andreja Pejić

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Australian model Andreja Pejić has walked the runway for a number of high-fashion giants, including Marc Jacobs and Jean-Paul Gaultier.

In May 2015, Pejić became the first openly transgender model profiled by Vogue.

[img]Balian%20Buschbaum[/img]

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German athlete Balian Buschbaum competed as a pole vaulter in the 2000 Summer Olympic Games. Buschbaum retired from the sport in 2007 and publicly came out as transgender that same year.

Here, he attends the KARE Design New Faces of Fashion award show in Duesseldorf, Germany, in 2013.

Christine Jorgensen

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Before coming out as transgender, New York native Christine Jorgensen fought in the U.S. Army during World War II.

After her service, she travelled to Denmark and underwent a series of gender-affirming surgeries. Upon her return in the early 1950s, she was the subject of a New York Daily News cover story, becoming a household name.

Alexis Arquette

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Alexis Arquette is a member of the famous Arquette acting family. Much like her siblings, Rosanna, Patricia, Richmond and David, she's appeared in a slew of films and television shows over the years.

Movie buffs may recognize her from supporting roles in the blockbusters "Pulp Fiction," "Bride of Chucky" and "The Wedding Singer."

Alexis' transition was captured in the documentary film "Alexis Arquette: She's My Brother," which premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival in 2007.

Candis Cayne

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Candis Cayne has the distinction of being the first transgender actress to play a recurring transgender role on primetime TV.

Cayne got her start as a drag performer in New York in the '90s. In 2007, she gained national attention when she played Carmelita Rainer — a trans woman — in the ABC drama "Dirty Sexy Money."

Renée Richards

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Dr. Renée Richards gained fame as an activist for transgender rights when she challenged a United States Tennis Association decision banning her from competition in the women's category at the 1976 U.S. Open.

The New York Supreme Court ultimately ruled in Richards' favor, a landmark victory for trans women athletes. Richards, now 86, is a practicing ophthalmologist.

Caroline Cossey

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British model Caroline Cossey was assigned male at birth and was born intersex — with an extra X chromosome — a condition called Klinefelter syndrome.

Cossey underwent gender-affirming surgery at age 20. In the '80s and '90s, she worked under the stage name "Tula" and appeared in Harper's Bazaar, The Sun, Playboy and the 1981 James Bond film "For Your Eyes Only."

After the Bond film's release, the British tabloid News of the World outed Cossey as transgender with a front page headline that read, "James Bond Girl Was a Boy." Cossey responded by publishing her first autobiography, "I Am a Woman."

Fallon Fox

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Fallon Fox is a retired mixed martial artist and the first openly transgender MMA fighter. She came out in 2013, during an interview with Sports Illustrated.

After that interview, UFC color commentator Joe Rogan and UFC president Dana White questioned her right to compete as a woman. At the same time, the UFC referred to itself as "a friend and ally of the LGBT community."

Fox competed in another four MMA fights after coming out, notching three victories.

Lea T

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Brazilian model Lea T is the daughter of retired soccer star Toninho Cerezo. She is a longtime friend and muse of Riccardo Tisci, creative head at Burberry and former creative director of Givenchy.

In 2014, she became the first openly transgender model to front a global cosmetics brand when she landed a contract at haircare company Redken. In 2015, Forbes named her one of 12 women who changed Italian fashion.

Jenna Talackova

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In 2010, Jenna Talackova became the first openly transgender woman to compete in an international beauty pageant, when she represented Canada in the 2010 International Queen beauty competition.

But Talackova would have to fight to continue her quest for a crown. In 2012, she threatened legal action against the Miss Universe Organization and its then-owner, former President Donald Trump, over their longstanding ban on transgender contestants.

The Miss Universe organization announced an end to the ban, following a heated public exchange between Mr. Trump and women's rights lawyer Gloria Allred. The organization said the change was made in spite of, not because of, the threats of legal action.

Isis King

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In 2008, model Isis King became the first openly transgender contestant on "America's Next Top Model" during the show's 11th cycle. She then returned and competed in the show's 17th cycle, "All-Stars."

A runway and print model, King was also the first openly transgender model to work with clothing brand American Apparel.

Gia Gunn

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Gia Keitaro Ichikawa, also known by her stage name, Gia Gunn, is best known for her two turns on "RuPaul's Drag Race."

Gunn was the third contestant to come out as trans before competing on the show.

Alex Blue Davis

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Alex Blue Davis is an actor and indie rock singer best known for his work on the ABC medical drama "Grey's Anatomy."

Davis played Dr. Casey Parker, a transgender veteran and Grey Sloan Memorial Hospital intern.

Teddy Geiger

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Singer-songwriter Teddy Geiger has released three albums in her 16-year music career.

Geiger publicly came out as transgender in October 2017. In an Instagram post, she wrote, "Love it or hate this is who I have been for a looooong time."

Patti Harrison

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Patti Harrison is an actress and comedian who gained prominence following a 2017 appearance on "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon."

Since then, Harrison has appeared as Ruthie on the Hulu series "Shrill," in several episodes of the Netflix sketch comedy series "I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson" and as a prospective surrogate and college hopeful in the feature film "Together Together."

Chella Man

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Chella Man is a YouTuber, model, activist and artist. He created his YouTube channel in 2017 to chronicle his unique experience.

In an interview with Teen Vogue, he said, "There is an extreme lack of representation for young, deaf, queer, Jewish, Asian, transgender artists...So, I decided to be my own representation."

Charlie Jane Anders

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Charlie Jane Anders is an American writer and science-fiction commentator.

She has received numerous awards for her work as a novelist, including the 2017 Nebula Award for her science fantasy novel "All the Birds in the Sky."

Brian Michael Smith

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Brian Michael Smith is an actor whose big break came when he played Toine Wilkins, a transgender police officer, in Ava DuVernay's "Queen Sugar."

These days, you can catch Michael Smith playing firefighter Paul Strickland on Fox's "9-1-1: Lonestar."

Dominique Jackson

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Dominique Jackson is an actress and model best known for her portrayal of former house mother Elektra Abundance Evangelista on the FX series "Pose."

Since her turn on "Pose," Jackson has appeared on the HBO Max reality show "Legendary" and the Starz fantasy series "American Gods."

Elliot Fletcher

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Elliot Fletcher is an actor who has made a career of portraying young transgender characters.

Fletcher has appeared as Noah in the MTV comedy series "Faking It," as Aaron in the Freeform drama "The Fosters," and as Trevor in Showtime's "Shameless."

Alexandra Billings

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Alexandra Billings is a multi-talented performer. She has acted in movies and TV series, performed on stage — on Broadway and off — and has taught college courses for the better part of two decades.

Fans of the Amazon series "Transparent" might recognize Billings from her performance as Davina, a friend and mentor to Jeffrey Tambor's Maura.

Josie Jay Totah

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Josie Totah is an actress who recently starred as Lexi on the 2020 Peacock revival series "Saved by the Bell." She came out as transgender in 2018.

More recently, Totah appeared in an episode of the Paramount+ "iCarly" revival series.

AJ Clementine

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AJ Clementine is an Australian model, social media influencer and activist.

In 2020, the young star collaborated with beauty brand Australis on an eyeshadow palette with colors that celebrate her trans experience.

Jamie Raines

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Jamie Raines is a British YouTuber who documents his life, transition experience and relationship with partner and fellow YouTuber Shaaba Lotun on his channel, Jammidodger.

Raines and Lotun were featured in a Channel 4 docuseries exploring tensions in Lotun's family relating to the couple's engagement.

Nikkie de Jager

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Nikkie de Jager is another YouTube personality, better known by her screen name, NikkieTutorials. The Dutch makeup artist completed her transition as a teen but didn't publicly come out as transgender until 2020.

Through the years, de Jager has collaborated with beauty brands OFRA, Maybelline and Lady Gaga's makeup brand, Haus Laboratories.

Mj Rodriguez

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Mj Rodriguez is an actress and singer best known for her portrayal of Blanca Rodriguez-Evangelista on the FX series "Pose."

In 2011, Rodriguez earned critical acclaim for her turn as Angel in the off-Broadway revival of "Rent."

Kim Petras

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Assigned male at birth, German dance-pop artist Kim Petras knew she was a girl at two years old. In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Petras explained, "The truth is I have always felt like a woman – I just ended up in the wrong body."

Her debut single, "I Don't Want It at All," went viral on Spotify in 2017. She released her debut album, "Clarity," in 2019.

Kylie Sonique Love

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Kylie Sonique Love is best known for competing on the second season of "RuPaul's Drag Race" and the sixth season of "RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars."

Love was the first contestant from the series to come out as transgender, doing so on the show's season 2 reunion episode.

Ian Harvie

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Stand-up comedian and actor Ian Harvie often uses his experience as a transgender man as fodder for his comedy.

As an actor, Harvie's credits include a turn on the Amazon series "Transparent" and a four-episode arc on the ABC mystery drama "Mistresses."

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 8th, 2023, 9:59 pm

bluefete wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:Guys what is a woman?


Notice is how only bluefete answer this.


They have no clue how to answer this because they are so involved in marginalising the word "woman."

You hit the nail on the head. It's quite a simple defination really but they're deflecting by talking about SRY and TDR like is hilux models.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 10:26 pm

paid_influencer wrote:i can see why bluefete might have trouble finding alternate links. the mass media is very edited by design. I was looking to see if there was any news on the Ghana law and on the first page for a google of "ghana gay" has no western media outlets except for a cnn article curiously headlined "Ghana’s president softens country’s stance on draconian anti-LGBTQ bill as Kamala Harris visits"

if that is what the softened stance is, what was the worse version


So the 1960 Ghananian law says the following:

https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/docs/ELE ... A88530.pdf

Section 104 - Unnatural Carnal Knowledge

(1) Whoever has unnatural carnal knowledge—

(a) of any person of the age of sixteen years or over without his consent shall be guilty of degree felony and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term of not less than five and not more than twenty-five years; or

(b) of any person of sixteen years or over with his consent is guilty of a misdemeanour; or

(c) of any animal is guilty of a misdemeanour.

(2) Unnatural carnal knowledge is sexual intercourse with a person in an unnatural manner or animal.

Open pdf below and go to pg.5 for a Supreme Court definition of unnatural carnal knowledge.
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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2023, 10:27 pm

However, you may want to read this as it is the new proposed Ghananian law for the alphabet community.

https://cdn.modernghana.com/files/72220 ... t-bill.pdf

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby maj. tom » July 8th, 2023, 10:45 pm

Deflection? You mean like just now like how they shift from talking about XX and XY chromosomes to define human gender when it was explained that it's much more complicated than that (as if there wasn't context to that), there was a shift to one member who always feels insulted when he talk a set of sheit about perverse sin and some weird tangent about future bestiality now start talking about "eradication of the threat", now it shift to define woman.

But if there is a statement how there is now a realization that persons can identify as female in modern society and there seems to be more to the traditional identity of woman, what will the next shift will be? How they really fear that they may accidentally find a trans-woman attractive by mistake and then feel disgusted after? If you see traditional woman and are attracted to her vs. if you are attracted to the appearance of a trans-woman what is the difference to you? Your wives and girlfriends have this issue in your lives that it's so important to define someone else's sexuality like this? How is this important to your personal life what is a woman? This comes up in your personal relationships? How did you define it? Did the criteria satisfy you? Then why you even care or worrying about other people bonus holes for?

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby paid_influencer » July 8th, 2023, 11:14 pm

bluefete wrote:Most if not all of these people are looking for attention. The more outrageous they behave, the greater the attention they get from the media.

adnj wrote:Transgender people should definitely take the advice offered in this thread to avoid the miserable and lackluster lives that are waiting for them if they don't. /s
Transgender celebs you need to know

Elliot Page

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In December 2020, Elliot Page, star of the Netflix series "Umbrella Academy," announced that he is transgender.

In May 2021, in an interview with Oprah, the actor spoke about the benefits of gender-affirming healthcare. "It's getting out of the shower and the towel is around your waist and you're looking at yourself in the mirror and you're just like, 'There I am,'" Page said.

Zaya Wade

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Zaya Wade is the eldest daughter of retired NBA superstar Dwyane Wade. Zaya publicly came out as trans in 2019. She celebrated her 14th birthday with a rollerskating-themed party in May 2021.

Dwyane Wade said, in an interview on NBC's "TODAY," "She's the strong one in this family. She's a hero."

Leyna Bloom

Image

Leyna Bloom made history in July 2021 as the first transgender woman to appear on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.

In a celebratory Instagram post, Bloom wrote, "We deserve this moment; we have waited millions of years to show up as survivors and be seen as full humans filled with wonder."

Kataluna Enriquez

Image

Kataluna Enriquez made history in June 2021 when she was crowned Miss Nevada USA. With this victory, Enriquez became the first openly transgender Miss USA contestant.

In a celebratory post, she wrote on Instagram, "My community, you are always in my heart. My win is our win. We just made history. Happy pride."

Laverne Cox

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Laverne Cox is best known for her role as Sophia Burset on the hit Netflix show "Orange Is the New Black." In 2014, she became the first openly transgender person to be nominated for a Primetime Emmy Award; one year later, she became the first to win a Daytime Emmy.

Indya Moore

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Indya Moore is an actor and model known for playing Angel Evangelista in the FX series "Pose."

The star was named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world in 2019. Moore is transgender and non-binary and uses they/them and she/her pronouns.

Hunter Schafer

Image

Hunter Schafer is a model, actress and activist. She got her start in the entertainment industry as a model for international brands such Prada, Dior, Rick Owens, Tommy Hilfiger and Vera Wang.

In 2018, she was cast to play Jules in the HBO series "Euphoria."

Laura Jane Grace

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Laura Jane Grace is a punk rock musician best known for founding the band Against Me!.

Grace is among the first high-profile punk rock stars to live openly as a transgender person. She publicly came out in an interview with Rolling Stone in May 2012.

Valentina Sampaio

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Brazilian model and actress Valentina Sampaio has logged a lot of "firsts" in her career. In 2019, she became Victoria's Secret's first openly transgender model.

And in 2020, she broke yet another glass ceiling when she became the first openly transgender model to appear in Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Issue.

Peppermint

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Peppermint is the stage name of New York drag performer Agnes Moore.

Fans of "RuPaul's Drag Race" will recall Peppermint's skillful lip-sync performances that earned her the nickname the "Lip Sync Assassin."

Janet Mock

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Janet Mock is a writer, director and producer on the FX series "Pose." Her memoir, "Redefining Realness," reached the New York Times bestseller list in 2014.

She is a contributing editor for Marie Claire.

Caitlyn Jenner

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On June 1, 2015, the world got its first glimpse of Caitlyn Jenner, when Vanity Fair released an Annie Leibovitz photo on its July cover.

In 2021, the former Olympic champion and reality TV personality announced a run as a Republican candidate for California governor.

Chaz Bono

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Chaz Bono is the only child of American pop performers Sonny and Cher.

Bono documented his transition in the 2011 film, "Becoming Chaz." That same year, he competed on the 13th season of "Dancing with the Stars."

Jazz Jennings

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American activist and TV personality Jazz Jennings was just seven years old when she stepped into the spotlight by discussing her experience as a transgender kid in a "20/20" interview with Barbara Walters.

During that 2007 interview, Jennings' parents noted that Jazz, despite being assigned male at birth, knew she was female from the moment she could talk. These days, you can find Jennings on her YouTube channel and on the TLC reality series "I Am Jazz."

Gigi Gorgeous

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Gigi Gorgeous is a Canadian YouTuber and socialite. Gigi came out as transgender in 2013 and documented her transition, including her experience with cosmetic procedures, on social media.

She is married to Nats Getty, great-grandchild of oil tycoon J. Paul Getty. Getty came out as transgender and non-binary in January 2021.

Rachel Levine

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Rachel Levine is the assistant secretary for health in the United States Department of Health and Human Services. Joe Biden appointed Levine in February 2021. The U.S. Senate voted to confirm her nomination in March.

Levine is the first openly transgender person to hold an office that requires Senate confirmation.

Lana Wachowski

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Lana Wachowski is one half of the sibling duo famous for directing the "Matrix" trilogy and "Cloud Atlas." Wachowski came out as transgender in 2010.

In addition to directing many notable films with her younger sister (who is also a trans woman), Lana is also a screenwriter, producer and comic book publisher.

Lilly Wachowski

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby redmanjp » July 9th, 2023, 2:51 am

maj. tom wrote:But if this "threat" occurs randomly genetically at 7 to 10% in every generation in every population, how do you eradicate this threat? What are your plans of eradication?

It's ok to be an online nazi in 2023. And it's ok to feel insulted if you're a said loser nazi who is openly expressing these ideas on a forum.


It's more like 3%. Only GenZs make it seem like more because they are just confused and indoctrinated. Just ask the older generations as in that poll done just last year.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 9th, 2023, 5:22 am

redmanjp wrote:
maj. tom wrote:But if this "threat" occurs randomly genetically at 7 to 10% in every generation in every population, how do you eradicate this threat? What are your plans of eradication?

It's ok to be an online nazi in 2023. And it's ok to feel insulted if you're a said loser nazi who is openly expressing these ideas on a forum.


It's more like 3%. Only GenZs make it seem like more because they are just confused and indoctrinated. Just ask the older generations as in that poll done just last year.
Only 3%? You should be able to see that you have invalidated every argument against LGBTQ recognition on this thread.

The answer is essentially similar: there is, and will always be, a portion of the population that does not fit the layman's description of male/female.

Your statement, "GenZs make it seem like more because they are just confused and indoctrinated," is simply unqualified. You can not know. You can only know what you were told by the person.

And, if traditionally more like 3% is the correct answer, that's like saying everyone in France, Italy, the UK, and Spain. That's a very significant population.

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Postby paid_influencer » July 9th, 2023, 7:46 am

last night I was watching Last Of Us on HBO and there was a completely unnecessary homosexual plot diversion for 3/4 of the episode and I think I agree w bluefete now

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 9th, 2023, 8:10 am

maj. tom wrote:Deflection? You mean like just now like how they shift from talking about XX and XY chromosomes to define human gender when it was explained that it's much more complicated than that (as if there wasn't context to that), there was a shift to one member who always feels insulted when he talk a set of sheit about perverse sin and some weird tangent about future bestiality now start talking about "eradication of the threat", now it shift to define woman.

But if there is a statement how there is now a realization that persons can identify as female in modern society and there seems to be more to the traditional identity of woman, what will the next shift will be? How they really fear that they may accidentally find a trans-woman attractive by mistake and then feel disgusted after? If you see traditional woman and are attracted to her vs. if you are attracted to the appearance of a trans-woman what is the difference to you? Your wives and girlfriends have this issue in your lives that it's so important to define someone else's sexuality like this? How is this important to your personal life what is a woman? This comes up in your personal relationships? How did you define it? Did the criteria satisfy you? Then why you even care or worrying about other people bonus holes for?


You are conflating again. The current "shift" is to obliterate the term woman and replace it with something that takes away the unique identity of what it means to be female / woman.

In other words, a hard-back man born without a uterus but masquerading as a woman, can breastfeed a baby.

Notice that no effort is being made to redefine the word "man".

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Postby adnj » July 9th, 2023, 8:53 am

bluefete wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Deflection? You mean like just now like how they shift from talking about XX and XY chromosomes to define human gender when it was explained that it's much more complicated than that (as if there wasn't context to that), there was a shift to one member who always feels insulted when he talk a set of sheit about perverse sin and some weird tangent about future bestiality now start talking about "eradication of the threat", now it shift to define woman.

But if there is a statement how there is now a realization that persons can identify as female in modern society and there seems to be more to the traditional identity of woman, what will the next shift will be? How they really fear that they may accidentally find a trans-woman attractive by mistake and then feel disgusted after? If you see traditional woman and are attracted to her vs. if you are attracted to the appearance of a trans-woman what is the difference to you? Your wives and girlfriends have this issue in your lives that it's so important to define someone else's sexuality like this? How is this important to your personal life what is a woman? This comes up in your personal relationships? How did you define it? Did the criteria satisfy you? Then why you even care or worrying about other people bonus holes for?


You are conflating again. The current "shift" is to obliterate the term woman and replace it with something that takes away the unique identity of what it means to be female / woman.

In other words, a hard-back man born without a uterus but masquerading as a woman, can breastfeed a baby.

Notice that no effort is being made to redefine the word "man".
I am interested in this eradication theory. How did that come to be? It is very interesting to me to witness a debate regarding what words mean and how words are used. In this particular instance, I don't see how a very narrow understanding of the actual meaning of the word "woman" changes into something new when the something new is an existing definition of the term.

If we look at conflating, the key is the mash-up between sex and gender. Some of you people simply don't see what each word actually means and seem to be so very upset when some of these words are used in ways that you don't agree with.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby alfa » July 9th, 2023, 9:31 am

adnj wrote:
bluefete wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Deflection? You mean like just now like how they shift from talking about XX and XY chromosomes to define human gender when it was explained that it's much more complicated than that (as if there wasn't context to that), there was a shift to one member who always feels insulted when he talk a set of sheit about perverse sin and some weird tangent about future bestiality now start talking about "eradication of the threat", now it shift to define woman.

But if there is a statement how there is now a realization that persons can identify as female in modern society and there seems to be more to the traditional identity of woman, what will the next shift will be? How they really fear that they may accidentally find a trans-woman attractive by mistake and then feel disgusted after? If you see traditional woman and are attracted to her vs. if you are attracted to the appearance of a trans-woman what is the difference to you? Your wives and girlfriends have this issue in your lives that it's so important to define someone else's sexuality like this? How is this important to your personal life what is a woman? This comes up in your personal relationships? How did you define it? Did the criteria satisfy you? Then why you even care or worrying about other people bonus holes for?


You are conflating again. The current "shift" is to obliterate the term woman and replace it with something that takes away the unique identity of what it means to be female / woman.

In other words, a hard-back man born without a uterus but masquerading as a woman, can breastfeed a baby.

Notice that no effort is being made to redefine the word "man".
I am really interested in this eradication theory. How did that come to be? It is really interesting to me to witness a debate regarding what words mean and how words are used. In this particular instance, I don't see how a very narrow understanding of the actual meaning of the word "woman" changes into something new when the something new is an existing definition of the term.

If we look at conflating, the key is the mash-up between sex and gender. Some of you people simply don't see what each word actually means and seem to be so very upset when some of these words are used in ways that you don't agree with.

And that's exactly the kind of thing people don't want their kids exposed to and that's their right. If you want to believe there's a difference that's cool but don't expect mature grown arse adults to know or care. Recently in work we were having a light banter about gender identity and some people had no idea what that meant and it's safe to assume they will never refer to anyone by any pronoun. So the new age alphabet group can't force this idealogy on just anyone.
While we're on the topic what's the deal with using the term 'people who are pregnant'? And before you or the "wont someone please think of the children' guy go on a lecture with graphs and molecular biology notes, it was a rethorical question

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 9th, 2023, 9:39 am

alfa wrote:
adnj wrote:
bluefete wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Deflection? You mean like just now like how they shift from talking about XX and XY chromosomes to define human gender when it was explained that it's much more complicated than that (as if there wasn't context to that), there was a shift to one member who always feels insulted when he talk a set of sheit about perverse sin and some weird tangent about future bestiality now start talking about "eradication of the threat", now it shift to define woman.

But if there is a statement how there is now a realization that persons can identify as female in modern society and there seems to be more to the traditional identity of woman, what will the next shift will be? How they really fear that they may accidentally find a trans-woman attractive by mistake and then feel disgusted after? If you see traditional woman and are attracted to her vs. if you are attracted to the appearance of a trans-woman what is the difference to you? Your wives and girlfriends have this issue in your lives that it's so important to define someone else's sexuality like this? How is this important to your personal life what is a woman? This comes up in your personal relationships? How did you define it? Did the criteria satisfy you? Then why you even care or worrying about other people bonus holes for?


You are conflating again. The current "shift" is to obliterate the term woman and replace it with something that takes away the unique identity of what it means to be female / woman.

In other words, a hard-back man born without a uterus but masquerading as a woman, can breastfeed a baby.

Notice that no effort is being made to redefine the word "man".
I am really interested in this eradication theory. How did that come to be? It is really interesting to me to witness a debate regarding what words mean and how words are used. In this particular instance, I don't see how a very narrow understanding of the actual meaning of the word "woman" changes into something new when the something new is an existing definition of the term.

If we look at conflating, the key is the mash-up between sex and gender. Some of you people simply don't see what each word actually means and seem to be so very upset when some of these words are used in ways that you don't agree with.

And that's exactly the kind of thing people don't want their kids exposed to and that's their right. If you want to believe there's a difference that's cool but don't expect mature grown arse adults to know or care. Recently in work we were having a light banter about gender identity and some people had no idea what that meant and it's safe to assume they will never refer to anyone by any pronoun. So the new age alphabet group can't force this idealogy on just anyone.
While we're on the topic what's the deal with using the term 'people who are pregnant'? And before you or the "wont someone please think of the children' guy go on a lecture with graphs and molecular biology notes, it was a rethorical question


What point are you making?

With respect to children, again, if a child is is in the care of their parent or guardian, and is not in a situation where a police officer or social worker would get involved, why would some people present such an animated response to "protect the children"?

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Postby maj. tom » July 9th, 2023, 9:45 am

Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.

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Postby The_Honourable » July 9th, 2023, 10:04 am

paid_influencer wrote:last night I was watching Last Of Us on HBO and there was a completely unnecessary homosexual plot diversion for 3/4 of the episode and I think I agree w bluefete now


It's going on heavy for some time now, watching a show and some lgbtq plot or sex scene pops up. What use to happen was that viewers would just skip by fast forward because you figured out what the scene was building and leading into but now, it comes out of left field blindsiding the viewer.

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Postby maj. tom » July 9th, 2023, 10:11 am

If it was a hetero sex scene you wouldn't feel uncomfortable?
I suppose if a tv show is giving you feelings like disgust that gay people exist and you believe it was irrelevant to the plot, you could just not watch it again. Never know when they will sneak in some weird sexual exposure that gay people have feelings and are relevant the same way. And make sure don't show it to your teens to groom them with these ideas. They won't be the leaders of society in the future anyway. They'll be just as irrelevant as all of us pounding keyboard here.
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Postby Dohplaydat » July 9th, 2023, 10:11 am

The_Honourable wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:last night I was watching Last Of Us on HBO and there was a completely unnecessary homosexual plot diversion for 3/4 of the episode and I think I agree w bluefete now


It's going on heavy for some time now, watching a show and some lgbtq plot or sex scene pops up. What use to happen was that viewers would just skip by fast forward because you figured out what the scene was building and leading into but now, it comes out of left field blindsiding the viewer.


So I don't mind at all any of the LGBT agenda portrayed in the Last of Us because is doesn't take away from the story.

While we might not agree with some of the LGBT agenda (and I certainly have express my concerns with trans) I often don't mind seeing it on TV because they are people too, with real stories and emotions.

Often it's done in an overbearing pandering manner which I don't like. However, at times it real helps add realism and depth too.

I think the gay love story in the last of us was one of best I've seen in mainstream TV.

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Postby alfa » July 9th, 2023, 10:15 am

maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.

We're probably also the last generation that can sucessfully own a house and don't need a masters to fry chicken so yeah I'm doing good in the back. As to the hate part I don't think anyone mentioned "hating" these people or their lifestyle in the 24 pages thus far, so you're throwing a strawman argument again to solicit an emotional reaction. No one I know ever had a hate for alphabet people even in the less tolerant decades. Growing up we all heard urban legends about homosexuals and would occasionally see a guy who it was alledgedly 'was caught with a man when he was young'. We'd have a snicker and be on our merry way and that was it. This ain't Jamaica, it's a haven for alphabeters if you ask me.
Fear however yes, as an adult I'm afraid to even google what some of these letters stand for in the acronym beyond LGBT, why the hell will any sane thinking person then allow their child to be taught this?

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Postby paid_influencer » July 9th, 2023, 11:29 am

maybe it is about self acceptance or something

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Postby bluefete » July 9th, 2023, 11:42 am

maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.


The world is always changing. It has changed significantly from when I was born to now. One does not always have to agree with the changes but that is the nature of life. Nothing is static.

However, that does not mean that I must just lie down and accept rubbish thrown into my open mind. People who are afraid to speak out when society is going in the wrong direction might as well just lay down and die.

As long as I live, there are some things I will never accept maj.tom. Let me repeat - a hard back man chopping off his penis because he thinks he is a woman needs to see a PSYCHIATRIST!

If you see that action as he being his authentic self - so be it.

As much as you accept the trans-agenda being aimed at children, you will have no problem with the legalisation of humans having sex with animals.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 9th, 2023, 11:42 am

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maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.

We're probably also the last generation that can sucessfully own a house and don't need a masters to fry chicken so yeah I'm doing good in the back. As to the hate part I don't think anyone mentioned "hating" these people or their lifestyle in the 24 pages thus far, so you're throwing a strawman argument again to solicit an emotional reaction. No one I know ever had a hate for alphabet people even in the less tolerant decades. Growing up we all heard urban legends about homosexuals and would occasionally see a guy who it was alledgedly 'was caught with a man when he was young'. We'd have a snicker and be on our merry way and that was it. This ain't Jamaica, it's a haven for alphabeters if you ask me.
Fear however yes, as an adult I'm afraid to even google what some of these letters stand for in the acronym beyond LGBT, why the hell will any sane thinking person then allow their child to be taught this?



Very well said!

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby wing » July 9th, 2023, 12:16 pm

bluefete wrote:
alfa wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.

We're probably also the last generation that can sucessfully own a house and don't need a masters to fry chicken so yeah I'm doing good in the back. As to the hate part I don't think anyone mentioned "hating" these people or their lifestyle in the 24 pages thus far, so you're throwing a strawman argument again to solicit an emotional reaction. No one I know ever had a hate for alphabet people even in the less tolerant decades. Growing up we all heard urban legends about homosexuals and would occasionally see a guy who it was alledgedly 'was caught with a man when he was young'. We'd have a snicker and be on our merry way and that was it. This ain't Jamaica, it's a haven for alphabeters if you ask me.
Fear however yes, as an adult I'm afraid to even google what some of these letters stand for in the acronym beyond LGBT, why the hell will any sane thinking person then allow their child to be taught this?



Very well said!
Awaiting the insults....

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 9th, 2023, 12:24 pm

bluefete wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.


The world is always changing. It has changed significantly from when I was born to now. One does not always have to agree with the changes but that is the nature of life. Nothing is static.

However, that does not mean that I must just lie down and accept rubbish thrown into my open mind. People who are afraid to speak out when society is going in the wrong direction might as well just lay down and die.

As long as I live, there are some things I will never accept maj.tom. Let me repeat - a hard back man chopping off his penis because he thinks he is a woman needs to see a PSYCHIATRIST!

If you see that action as he being his authentic self - so be it.

As much as you accept the trans-agenda being aimed at children, you will have no problem with the legalisation of humans having sex with animals.


IIRC bestiality is legal in four US states.

Bestiality was also legal in Chile, Cuba, Hungary, Japan, the Philippines, Romania, and Russia - but same-sex marriage was not.

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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby adnj » July 9th, 2023, 12:35 pm

wing wrote:
bluefete wrote:
alfa wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.

We're probably also the last generation that can sucessfully own a house and don't need a masters to fry chicken so yeah I'm doing good in the back. As to the hate part I don't think anyone mentioned "hating" these people or their lifestyle in the 24 pages thus far, so you're throwing a strawman argument again to solicit an emotional reaction. No one I know ever had a hate for alphabet people even in the less tolerant decades. Growing up we all heard urban legends about homosexuals and would occasionally see a guy who it was alledgedly 'was caught with a man when he was young'. We'd have a snicker and be on our merry way and that was it. This ain't Jamaica, it's a haven for alphabeters if you ask me.
Fear however yes, as an adult I'm afraid to even google what some of these letters stand for in the acronym beyond LGBT, why the hell will any sane thinking person then allow their child to be taught this?

Very well said!
Awaiting the insults....

in the acronym beyond LGBT, why the hell will any sane thinking person then allow their child to be taught this?

Perhaps because the child has a parent or guardian that fits in that category. There are nearly 1.5 million same-sex couples in the United States and about 1-out-of-5 same-sex couples in the US have at least one child that is under 18 that lives with them.
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Re: Adidas Pride!

Postby bluefete » July 9th, 2023, 12:35 pm

adnj wrote:
bluefete wrote:
maj. tom wrote:Right well bluefete and company , reality is that the world is changing and you are getting left behind. That's your business. When the children of today grow up to be adults and lead society, they all won't be proud to be dumb and clueless or boast about their ignorance and how they have more common sense than facing reality with knowledge. They'll be better adults and accept the changes that are happening and welcome and include the same parts of society that your group fears and hates so much. Children today have more access to education, technology and social interaction and a world view than ever before. Unless you are trying to keep children down and create a anti-intellectual cult of them to not explore curiosity and observe the world.

And there's nothing you can do about it from your grave.


The world is always changing. It has changed significantly from when I was born to now. One does not always have to agree with the changes but that is the nature of life. Nothing is static.

However, that does not mean that I must just lie down and accept rubbish thrown into my open mind. People who are afraid to speak out when society is going in the wrong direction might as well just lay down and die.

As long as I live, there are some things I will never accept maj.tom. Let me repeat - a hard back man chopping off his penis because he thinks he is a woman needs to see a PSYCHIATRIST!

If you see that action as he being his authentic self - so be it.

As much as you accept the trans-agenda being aimed at children, you will have no problem with the legalisation of humans having sex with animals.


IIRC bestiality is legal in four US states.

Bestiality was also legal in Chile, Cuba, Hungary, Japan, the Philippines, Romania, and Russia - but same-sex marriage was not.


I find you real know this thing off the bat! Nah man adnj - I just learned somethings I did not want to. Unbelievable!

"Only four states—Hawaii, New Mexico, West Virginia and Wyoming—do not have laws that formally prohibit sexual abuse of animals, traditionally known as bestiality.

Lawmakers in Hawaii and Wyoming have proposed measures to formally outlaw sexual abuse of animals, a crime that animal rights advocates say is often hidden in plain sight."
https://www.route-fifty.com/management/ ... ge/173084/

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