The Religion Discussion

[Chimera]

lol man say "u izza muslim" as his defence yes

[megadoc1]

lol de man start to defend he self wee

after all this talk
all what I said that Christians can do, is being done right now ,it's just that real but you guys just toting because all what you talk about(religion wise) cannot be implemented in real life (except for decapitation) because at the end of the day it is not truth

first: it is Jesus who does the works, we are the vessels used for that purpose, if you cannot understand that
well I just can't waste anymore time with you

second: if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

so while you here beating up on talk, people are coming to truth
and the kingdom of heaven is moving forward as planned
don't take it to heart ,this event and all others coming after are already done in Jesus name

[Chimera]

so hear dis na...if i tune in live to the champion dynamics live service on my iphone, while i in villa bulling 2 hoes and snorting cocaine.....i guh get blessed and saved normel? or less than everyone else?

[megadoc1]

you're just the guy Jesus is looking for

[Chimera]

jesus looking for people who into cocaine and hoes

WOI!

ha...see u later losers , i`m headed to heaven

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

[illumin@ti]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

REPOST !!!!!!!! come on Duane... u know better than that, they used to go from mall to mall healing ppl and shiznit.... and how dare u ask dem bout healing in a hospital, that would involve them actually having some kind of 'power' or at least power to invoke....
i wonder how he would respond now... seein that we on page twohunjedanplenty with Magadog still spewing the same tired BS. it gets old. really old.

[brainchild]

Alyuh can't understand......d man is a puppet! He can't even understand dat they feed him dat ole talk bout tune in and be healed as a marketing ploy, they get payed and make money for their sponsors if a lot of ppl tune in mega....it's business. After 200+pgs of verbal smelling salts you can't wake up and see the big picture here? take the red pill...unplug urself...WAKE UP SON...WAKE UP....MEGADOC1....WAKE UP!!

[megadoc1]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

given the way on how the service is offered (online)If these people access it
I don't see why they won't be healed, unless you have a suggestion that you are not being clear on, maybe you just don't understand what is being done here,in that case it is ok to say so
please take a read again and see what was offered, then you will see that what you asked
have nothing to do with what was offered.I have no time for games

[megadoc1]

Alyuh can't understand......d man is a puppet! He can't even understand dat they feed him dat ole talk bout tune in and be healed as a marketing ploy, they get payed and make money for their sponsors if a lot of ppl tune in mega....it's business. After 200+pgs of verbal smelling salts you can't see the big picture here? take the red pill...unplug urself...WAKE UP SON...WAKE UP....MEGADOC1....WAKE UP!!

when yuh learn to talk facts ,talk to me untill then see if you find that pill and take it

[axe]

WE ARE NOW IN THE LATTER DAYS OF THE END TIMES
SALVATION:

Luke 12:54-57-Jesus said: When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
This message may be called a road sign of warning. Some may look at a sign that reads—THE BRIDGE IS OUT, and say, "Oh, someone is just trying to scare us into taking another road; let’s go on the same way." They go on and plunge to their death. The sign was meant to warn them of impending danger.
God wants you to know, WHEN YOU SEE THESE THINGS COME TO PASS (the prophecies from the Bible in this message), KNOW YE THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH AT HAND-Lk 21:31.
• Will Russia + some Arab nations invade Israel and the U.S.A. become involved? Yes.
• Will there be a one-world system or global economy? Yes.
• Will diseases increase such as AIDS & new ones appear? Yes.
• Will hostility toward Born-again Christians & the Bible increase? Yes.
• Will alternate life styles increase, prosper & become accepted? Yes
• Did you know the Bible tells us what is happening?
WHAT IS GOING ON?
People have said the end was near many times in the past—true. But did you know the Bible shows us no prophecy of the latter days meant anything until Israel was reborn into a nation? Did you know God’s Word indicates to us a generation would not pass from Israel’s rebirth (May 14, 1948), till all be fulfilled (which includes the Rapture, the Tribulation, Armageddon and Jesus Christ’s return)? A generation can be as much as 70+ years (Note, Parable of the Fig Tree in site menu).
Many people have been preaching about the latter days of the end times in churches, on radio, TV, the Internet and through books and magazines. Some include Billy Graham, Hal Lindsey, Ed Hindson, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, Peter Lalonde, and Tim LaHaye. To those that understand the Bible, no explanation is needed. To those that are prideful, self-centered, that love this world, that despise God’s correction, and seek the praise of men rather than of God, no explanation is possible-ref Dan 12:4, 10; Mt 24:37, 39.
It has been said that it is virtually impossible for anyone to make 11 straight predictions, 2000 years into the future. There is only one chance in 8 x 10 to the 63rd power, or 80 with 63 zeros after it that such a thing could be done. If such a set of predictions existed, it would have to be the Word of God.
Consider, could you write eleven straight predictions that would take place in the year 4000 A.D.? Include the rebirth of a specific nation and how it would be reborn. Include specific nations that would exist, certain nations that would be allied together, and the exact size of a nation’s army. Include what the people and church would be like. Also include the names of actual cities and fruit trees that would exist. Do eleven straight prophecies and be exactly correct on every single one. The Bible not only does this eleven times, but hundreds of times with absolute, perfect accuracy. If this is so, even the most skeptical person (that is truthful) would have to agree that there is indeed a God and the Bible has to be His Word. 2 Pet 1:20,21-KNOWING THIS FIRST, THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN: BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN-Lk 24:25. However, believing there is a God and acknowledging the Bible is the Word of God does not save a person. A person needs to admit they are a sinner, repent, and receive Jesus Christ as their only hope of being saved.
Let's prove the Bible is true and we are nearing the end of the last generation before Christ returns.

1. The Jewish people would be scattered worldwide; yet Israel would become a nation again after a long time and at a time the Bible calls the "latter days"-ref Isa 66:8; Mic 5:3; Ezek 38:8. Against what appeared to be impossible odds, this prophecy has been fulfilled. It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years. That’s 1 out of 1.
Note: Israel was destroyed in approximately 721 B.C. and Judah about 135 years later. Since that time, approximately fourteen different peoples have possessed the land of Israel. Yet as the Bible said, the nation of Israel would be reborn.
The rebirth of Israel was a key sign, indicating we had entered a time period called the "latter days." It was the beginning of a countdown leading to the Tribulation and culminating with the Battle of Armageddon and the return of Jesus. Along with the fulfillment of this crucial event are over 360 prophecies that would all come together, so we might recognize that the Tribulation is very close. Some are listed here.
Yet the Bible foretells that most people would not believe these things, despite the overwhelming evidence of the signs from God’s Word being fulfilled exactly as predicted. As people refused to believe the flood was coming in Noah’s time, so people today willingly choose to disregard the signs of the times.

2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 2 out of 2.
Note: On Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the U.N. approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. On the morning of May 14, 1948 (the last day of the British mandate), a meeting of the People’s Council took place in Israel to decide on the name of the state and to finalize the declaration. At precisely 4 pm, the proclamation ceremony began at the Tel Aviv museum. The 979 Hebrew words of the Scroll of Independence were read. All stood, and the scroll was adopted. The notorious White Paper, issued by the British in 1930 restricting Jewish immigration, was declared null and void. Members of the People’s Council signed the proclamation. David Ben-Gurion rapped his gavel, declaring, "The State of Israel is established. This meeting is ended." Israel was brought forth as a nation in one day, at once, exactly as predicted. At midnight, the British soldiers and high commissioner would leave. President Truman was swift in announcing U.S. recognition of Israel. The following morning, on May 15, Israel was under attack by the Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian, and Iraqi forces.

3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 3 out of 3.
Note: As previously stated, on Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the "United Nations" approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled. Consider, for centuries the land of Israel had been occupied by many nations. Israel was "brought forth out of the nations"—the children of Israel from many nations have been returning to their ancient homeland.

4. Israel must regain the city of Jerusalem-Joel 2:32; Isa 28:14; Ezek 22:19. This happened just as predicted in 1967. That’s 4 out of 4.
Note: The Bible gives us two methods so we would know the time we are in. One is by Israel’s rebirth. The other, by a precise line of events that would all come together at one time. Israel was reborn on May 14th, 1948. The Bible indicates that from Israel’s rebirth a generation would not pass till all be fulfilled. We are not setting any date; however, it seems clear from Israel’s rebirth and the signs of the times— that we are living in the generation in which the Rapture and Tribulation will come and catch most people by surprise. Are you ready?

5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. It would be asleep. Prophecy fulfilled. That’s 5 out of 5.
Note: God will spew them out. Many ministers and people that call themselves a Christian will not be going to heaven. The Bible tells us—you have acquired wealth, but your true condition is wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked, and you don’t know it-Rev 3:14-22. This is today’s church. Most preachers use little Scripture, but lots of worldly stories. Many sing a great deal, but put little emphasis on repentance, obeying, serving, and fearing God, on the fruits of the Spirit, Bible prophecy, water baptism by immersion, and studying your Bible faithfully every day. Many are entertainment or feel good centers that teach what their members want to hear. Many (so-called Christians) are so lukewarm or dead, they don’t even bring their Bibles with them to the house of God. Some famous ministers and Bible schools think this is the best church age ever, yet the Bible shows it is the most deceived.

6. The Bible gives us app. 119 descriptions about the people at the time of the end. These fit the people of today perfectly, but did not fit the people of fifty years ago. Here are some:
A. Some would depart from the faith and go into devil worship.-1 Tim 4:1. This is perfect.
B. People would mock about the last days and not believe-2 Pe 3:3; Jude 18.
C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2. Remember the TV commercials—"I do it for me"?
D. People would be disobeying their parents-2 Tim 3:1,2.
E. People would be grateful for nothing-2 Tim 3:1,2.
F. Alternate lifestyles would increase, prosper & become accepted.-Lk 17:28,30; ref Gen 19:5; Ro 1:24,26,27.
G. People would be without self-control in sex-2 Tim 3:1,2,6; Rev 9:21, Lk 17:28,30; Jude 7. Is this not the sex generation?
H. People would love pleasures more than God-2 Tim 3:1,2,4. This is true. Shall we go on a picnic, watch football, or sleep. Church?—we can go another time. Our American motto "In God we trust" has become a joke. Remember, these were all predicted centuries ago as part of the signs that we are at the time of the end.
I. People would be taking drugs-Rev 9:21. The Greek word for sorceries, in Rev 9:21, means pharmaceuticals or drugs. God’s Word is 100% right on every one. That’s 6 out of 6. How could you have any doubts at this point?
Note: Fifty years ago, many people seldom locked their doors at night. There was little or no profanity on television, radio, or in the movies. One of the biggest problems in public school was gum chewing. Those days are long gone. Can you find a new movie that doesn’t curse God’s name?

7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12. Incredibly, this prophecy was written in the days of spears and arrows, yet today it is true. That’s 7 out of 7.
Note: It is estimated that the combined nuclear arsenals of the USA and Russia could kill every living thing on earth 6 times over.

8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10. This seemingly impossible prophecy was written when there was no printing press, but today it is true. That's 8 out of 8.

9. In the "latter days," when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16. Incredible. That’s 9 out of 9.
Note: How could the Bible have foretold the location of this nation, facts about its military, and even the time period it would come to pass? As was already said, in Lk 24:25-O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN.

10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million. This is astounding. How could the Bible have told the location of a nation and given such a huge figure regarding the size of its army nearly 2000 years ago? China has boasted that they could field an army of this exact figure. That’s 10 out of 10.

11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Union today (the EU), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations. It is written, IN THE DAYS OF THESE KINGS (these nations, which is now) SHALL THE GOD OF HEAVEN SET UP A KINGDOM-Dan 2:44. That’s 11 out of 11. We have just reached the point that seemed impossible—11 perfect predictions made thousands of years ago—with God nothing is impossible. Certainly, at this point, even the biggest skeptic should see the Bible is true, there is a God, and we are nearing the time of the end.

That’s 22 prophecies in 11 sets, all made centuries ago. With God nothing is impossible. Even the biggest skeptic should see the Bible is true and we are nearing the time of the end. Don’t let your desires and agenda blind you to the truth. The Bible is the Word of God and we have proved it. From the rebirth of Israel to the soon coming tribulaiton, 365 prophecies needed to be fulfilled. Incredible, 363 are done and the last two are happening now. These prophecies include 101 regarding Israel; 73 about today’s church, false prophets and christs; 119 concerning what the people would be like; 20 regarding the days we are in, evil and persecutions; 43 give information about countries and cities that would exist, and alliences; 5 regarding inventions; 2 miscellaneous, and the final 2. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and get baptized by full immersion. Read and obey the Gospel. God is not willing that any should perish, yet most do. The Rapture is close, but most are not ready and will be left behind. Mt 16:26-WHAT IS A MAN PROFITED, IF HE SHALL GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, AND LOSE HIS OWN SOUL? OR WHAT SHALL A MAN GIVE IN EXCHANGE FOR HIS SOUL?

[megadoc1]

v. “Infidels for eighteen hundred years have been refuting and overthrowing this book, and yet it stands today solid as a rock. Its circulation increases, and it is more love and cherished and read today than ever before. Infidels, with all their assaults, make about as much impression on this book as a man with a tack hammer would on the Pyramids of Egypt. When the French monarch proposed a persecution of the Christians in his dominion, an old statesman and warrior said to him, ‘Sire, the Church of God is an anvil that has worn out many hammers.’ So the hammers of the infidels have been pecking away at this book for ages, but the hammers are worn out, and the anvil still endures. If this book had not been the book of God, men would have destroyed it long ago. Emperors and popes, kings and priests, princes and rulers have all tried their hand at it; they die and book still lives.” (Hastings, cited in McDowell)

vi. “A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.” (Bernard Ramm, Protestant Christian Evidences)

[brainchild]

Alyuh can't understand......d man is a puppet! He can't even understand dat they feed him dat ole talk bout tune in and be healed as a marketing ploy, they get payed and make money for their sponsors if a lot of ppl tune in mega....it's business. After 200+pgs of verbal smelling salts you can't see the big picture here? take the red pill...unplug urself...WAKE UP SON...WAKE UP....MEGADOC1....WAKE UP!!

when yuh learn to talk facts ,talk to me untill then see if you find that pill and take it

Pinocchio this entire thread has proven that you are incapable of recognising facts....i'm thru debating with you...check me wen ur fairy god-mother turn you into a real boy, we'll debate then.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

given the way on how the service is offered (online)If these people access it
I don't see why they won't be healed, unless you have a suggestion that you are not being clear on, maybe you just don't understand what is being done here,in that case it is ok to say so
please take a read again and see what was offered, then you will see that what you asked
have nothing to do with what was offered.I have no time for games

No games, I am asking because I honestly don't know how your healing and exorcism abilities work.

You say you are a vessel of Christ and he is the one casting out the demons and healing the sick. You say the person doesn't have to be present in front of you for you to heal them. I know from the bible that Jesus healed people who were far away from him (A royal official who had a sick son in Capernaum and healing a centurions servant); both the healed people were healed by someone asking Jesus to heal them because they cared for them and wished them to get well.

So my questions stands - if you can heal the sick, why not heal ALL the sick kids in the hospital?
or is having a champion dynamics website, an online event and a facebook page more important?

I am not criticizing - just suggesting that actually healing all the kids in the hospital at this sinful time on earth will get ALOT more followers and believers in Christ than any website, post on trinituner, online event or facebook page would ever do!!!

I'm just saying.

[Chimera]

Megadoc's answer shall be

1-"nah ...them sick children in the hospital, their ancestors sinned hundreds of years ago, so them deserve it

2-"we do heal children, just because you don't know about it doesn't mean we don't do it

3-"they are all demons"

4-"them is muslims"

[sMASH]

lol @ aba.
but according to this event,

jesus saves, eeeef u have a broadband connection! those with out a broad band connection may be saved at a later date by viewing the video uploads on youtube! log on, chune eeen donate ur dollars, and win the prize.

[megadoc1]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

given the way on how the service is offered (online)If these people access it
I don't see why they won't be healed, unless you have a suggestion that you are not being clear on, maybe you just don't understand what is being done here,in that case it is ok to say so
please take a read again and see what was offered, then you will see that what you asked
have nothing to do with what was offered.I have no time for games

No games, I am asking because I honestly don't know how your healing and exorcism abilities work.
but you are not interested either

You say you are a vessel of Christ and he is the one casting out the demons and healing the sick. You say the person doesn't have to be present in front of you for you to heal them. I know from the bible that Jesus healed people who were far away from him (A royal official who had a sick son in Capernaum and healing a centurions servant); both the healed people were healed by someone asking Jesus to heal them because they cared for them and wished them to get well. Great

So my questions stands - if you can heal the sick, why not heal ALL the sick kids in the hospital?
first go back to the bible and read how Jesus did these miracles,(since we are giving weight to this example) he didnt just throw them out there yuh know,some one asked for it, whether they were far away or not someone came asking for it for them
or is having a champion dynamics website, an online event and a facebook page more important?nope these things are never considered important, but it is a tool used in the advancement of the kingdom of heaven,to bad you can't understand this or maybe you do and it's just makes you uncomfortable
however let me point out that it does what it was intended for
so lets give God praise for it

I am not criticizing - just suggesting that actually healing all the kids in the hospital at this sinful time on earth will get ALOT more followers and believers in Christ than any website, post on trinituner, online event or facebook page would ever do!!!
good!!!! that is your suggestion one that's made outside the kingdom of heaven,we have no use for it ,while we are looking at what Jesus is doing you are looking at what you think is not happening, you do not care if its happening in the first place, you rather not hear about it but when you do hear about it you turn to seek to discredit and suggest how we should do it!!!!! Good luck doing that, we are moving forward as planned,
if you want to see how its gonna end read the last three chapters in the book of revelations
this is done yo!

I'm just saying.

[sMASH]

self perpetuation after decapitation, or it did nt happen.

[megadoc1]

but the essence of crucifixion is pain and suffering being prolonged, that is why they crucified criminals, and there are worse crucifixions than the standard 'T'.
if he was to be crucified to pay for sins, then he would have gotten a harder crucifixion.
at that time and era this was considered the worst way to die
then be left to writhe in pain and agony till dead. piercing on the side was done to ensure death, not to prolong it.
so by doing so they reduced the pain and suffering that dude would have had to endure.
good now if you look again you would see before they pierced him he gave up the ghost ,he said it is finished


one of the rules god set is that every man would taste death. jesus was a man, plain and simple. no matter how special his birth, and the miracles he performed.
he had a divine nature and a human nature ,yesss he was both man and God
for the messiah to return and rule as a man, means that he cannot have died.
the messiah is not returning to rule as a man but as the God he is ,I can understand your misunderstanding

this was one of the 'tests' the jews were performing based on the rules they knew about.
they know that the messiah has to come back to rule as a man, and therefore would not be able to die at that time. so by killing any one claiming to be the messiah would be the final proof that they are not the messiah.
now show something to support this crap you posted
the Jews know about a coming messiah not a messiah who has to come back
so this is ole talk


according to teachings i come across is that jesus was not killed, but the people were made to believe that the person they crucified was jesus.
now if this is true, it goes in line with many things, such that jesus was not killed, and did not die so can rule as the messiah. it also maintains where he said that he came to keep the laws and not break it, meaning that he would rule as the messiah, as a living man, and not break that rule, and that dead people await judgment day and are not meant to return to this mortal reality.
it also fulfills that no man can bear the sins or another, and that each is accountable for their selves. someone else paying the penalty for ur misdeeds makes this life not make sense, because then it does not matter what u do, u get the reward no matter what. and if u have to try hard to be a good person, then u still have to prove that u deserve the saving, so still work for it, then the payment which was made before might as well not been made because u still have to towards the reward any way.
so we are clear that what you believe is formed on a misconception that you have to hope is true?

this whole thing about jesus dieing does not line up with the jewish prophecies and laws,
can you provide examples ? or are you just saying?

does not line up with some of what jesus was supposed to have said
can you provide examples? or are you just saying?

, does not line up with my teachings I think thats your problem here


and does not line up with a sense or fairness and equity.
you have no clue on what you speak about

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

if you read what I posted you will see that the event is an online event ,
meaning that in your own personal space,(home, car,work) you will receive from Jesus when you log on to the live service,the very fact that you register for the event shows your intention to to receive from God and he will honor it.
all this is offered for free in Jesus name

if you can heal people and cast out demons this way, why then don't you heal all the sick children in the hospitals?

given the way on how the service is offered (online)If these people access it
I don't see why they won't be healed, unless you have a suggestion that you are not being clear on, maybe you just don't understand what is being done here,in that case it is ok to say so
please take a read again and see what was offered, then you will see that what you asked
have nothing to do with what was offered.I have no time for games

No games, I am asking because I honestly don't know how your healing and exorcism abilities work.
but you are not interested either

You say you are a vessel of Christ and he is the one casting out the demons and healing the sick. You say the person doesn't have to be present in front of you for you to heal them. I know from the bible that Jesus healed people who were far away from him (A royal official who had a sick son in Capernaum and healing a centurions servant); both the healed people were healed by someone asking Jesus to heal them because they cared for them and wished them to get well. Great

So my questions stands - if you can heal the sick, why not heal ALL the sick kids in the hospital?
first go back to the bible and read how Jesus did these miracles,(since we are giving weight to this example) he didnt just throw them out there yuh know,some one asked for it, whether they were far away or not someone came asking for it for them
or is having a champion dynamics website, an online event and a facebook page more important?nope these things are never considered important, but it is a tool used in the advancement of the kingdom of heaven,to bad you can't understand this or maybe you do and it's just makes you uncomfortable
however let me point out that it does what it was intended for
so lets give God praise for it

I am not criticizing - just suggesting that actually healing all the kids in the hospital at this sinful time on earth will get ALOT more followers and believers in Christ than any website, post on trinituner, online event or facebook page would ever do!!!
good!!!! that is your suggestion one that's made outside the kingdom of heaven,we have no use for it ,while we are looking at what Jesus is doing you are looking at what you think is not happening, you do not care if its happening in the first place, you rather not hear about it but when you do hear about it you turn to seek to discredit and suggest how we should do it!!!!! Good luck doing that, we are moving forward as planned,
if you want to see how its gonna end read the last three chapters in the book of revelations
this is done yo!

I'm just saying.

I am intrigued at how you answer without providing an answer.

[sMASH]

responds without providing answers, and believe that is enough, and our culture ingrained in us to accept any response as an answer.

[sMASH]

i have just said that one man paying the price for another man's misdeeds is not fair or equatable, and u tellin me that i have no clue about fairness and equity??

bai, suck a power mint and go jump in ah river, eh.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

sMASH you have your beliefs and megadoc1 has his - I am not discounting either.
obviously the two beliefs do not mesh which is why we had the Crusades and War in the Middle East etc etc

I think we can all accept that different religions have different accounts of God.

What I have question with is the claims megadoc1 makes of or about himself:
He claims he can heal the sick by praying for them yet he brings no proof.
He claims he can cast out demons yet he brings no proof.
He claims he has miracle-working abilities yet he brings no proof.
He suggests that his group territorially protects Trinidad from natural disasters yet he brings no proof.
He claims the earth is only 6000 years old yet he brings no proof.
He claims all dinosaurs existed at the same time as man yet he brings no proof.
He claims his beliefs are the only true ones simply because he believes it to be true.
however we all know Belief in something does not make it true.

megadoc1 is quick to state that others are dead wrong
So where is the proof?

So far we have gotten NO proof, no empirical evidence to support his claims. All we have gotten is an invitation to his group meetings. If megadoc1 posted the claims here then I think he can post the proof here too!

[sMASH]

buh really and truly, if he healed a woman and typed that here then we could easily say that he lied. the real thing is to see it in action, like to go to a meeting, with some one with an affliction, then see them remove their affliction.
now this can be very tricky in that the person may be faking in the first place and pretend that their good state is only after being healed. the person may not actually be faking but, mind over matter, 'feel' better and presume that they are healed.
but to do sumthing that is not subjective, they would have to replace a missing limb.this would remove any subjectivity as any one could see that. but then they could say that the person does not have a receptive spirit so does not receive the healing gift.

so the scenario where the change is indisputable and the spirit of the person is unquestionable so a to rule out that the person is not receptive of the healing, we have the recuperation after self inflicted decapitation.

if they believe that they can channel the power and are so good that they can channel the healing of other people, then they can heal them selves, after a definite incident. their scriptures say that they can over come poisoning, and effectively a decapitation is the same as poisoning as the person life is jeopardized, but better in that the effects of the decapitation is discrete, observable, measurable, as opposed to the effect of the poison which is vary inconsistent

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ it doesnt have to be subjective or rely on eyewitness accounts - we live in an age of science and information technology

Example: if someone is medically diagnosed with cancer and megadoc1 heals them then they can go back for testing to ensure the cancer is gone. The medical tests can show the person has been healed of the cancer. Simple. No one has to be there, no one has to intrude on the patient no one has to be a doubting Thomas.

Megadoc1 claims this has been done many times before - however I think if it was done and the person was in fact healed and it can be repeated then it would be WORLD news and doctors can safely give up practicing medicine and become healers at Champion Dynamics instead. But this is not the case, it is NOT world news, it is not proven to work.

So my questions stands - if you can heal the sick, why not heal ALL the sick kids in the hospital?

first go back to the bible and read how Jesus did these miracles,(since we are giving weight to this example) he didnt just throw them out there yuh know,some one asked for it, whether they were far away or not someone came asking for it for them

How many parents are begging and praying for their children and babies to get better? Is it that you want them to come down Woodbrook by your group or log on to your website for it to work?

[Chimera]

but Duane, in the cancer scenario, where the patient goes back to do a test for cancer, megadoc's people will claim that the person was a non-believer as they went back to do a test, and so God did not heal them.

[mamoo_pagal]

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ intriguing
and it is done without religion

[mamoo_pagal]

EXACTLY!!!! many ppl form different cultures all over the world have been doing this for decades. The christian community think it is only exclusive to them . There is a science behind it, it is all about energy.
I believe the identified "divine" beings have the knowledge of this (mastery of the energy that governs our universe), as they were the physical manifestation of that energy

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

The christian community think it is only exclusive to them .

this is where I have to disagree

Not Christianity alone. Every religion offers healing through prayer and meditation. They each claim their way is the right way - this is the myopic nature of religion.

Muslims, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Native Tribes ALL claim healing through prayer and works of their God - and there are accounts of healing in ALL those religions as well.

What this may prove is that the power is within a universal force that is in every living thing and works regardless of our religious beliefs.

midichlorians?
May the Force be with you!