The Religion Discussion

[dark_lord_tnt]

ROFL are you kidding me ???

good but you still haven't explained why would an electrical charge chose to travel a longer distance to a conductor when an identical conductor is closer by
and why would it do so without affecting the closer conductor when both are sharing a common ground

I just did !!

THERMIONIC DISCHARGE!!!

the current moving between the two angles or case or stored charge etc.. charges THE AIR AROUND IT.. Thats why you got the glow.. The current flows from the positively charged electrons to the NEGATIVELY CONDUCTOR you.... The more it charges the further it can JUMP.. Thats why solar storms or solar particles can power a line without the need of completing a circuit. It has nothing to do with positive and negative terminals. Its all about electrons, or charged atoms, The postive charged solar particles will stimulate electrical flow in power lines or the atmosphere. This is because the lines are negatively charged (isnt positively charged).. So since the ARK is positively charged and it charges the air and ground around it (you notice this by the glow) and you go walking up to it,, It stabilize itself the entity will discharge itself to you as your negatively charged.

THERMIONIC DISCHARGE!!!

If you still do not understand it I'll post the entire therm (quite large)..

[megadoc1]

ROFL are you kidding me ???

good but you still haven't explained why would an electrical charge chose to travel a longer distance to a conductor when an identical conductor is closer by
and why would it do so without affecting the closer conductor when both are sharing a common ground

I just did !!

THERMIONIC DISCHARGE!!!

the current moving between the two angles or case or stored charge etc.. charges THE AIR AROUND IT.. Thats why you got the glow.. The current flows from the positively charged electrons to the NEGATIVELY CONDUCTOR you.... The more it charges the further it can JUMP.. Thats why solar storms or solar particles can power a line without the need of completing a circuit. It has nothing to do with positive and negative terminals. Its all about electrons, or charged atoms, The postive charged solar particles will stimulate electrical flow in power lines or the atmosphere. This is because the lines are negatively charged (isnt positively charged).. So since the ARK is positively charged and it charges the air and ground around it (you notice this by the glow) and you go walking up to it,, It stabilize itself the entity will discharge itself to you as your negatively charged.

THERMIONIC DISCHARGE!!!
so why didnt this short happen to a levite ?
is electricity a respecter of persons?
what is the difference between me standing by the ark and a levite standing by the ark
you tried to explain that it probably was their clothes but
if electricity can travel through thin air what good can their clothes.do?
unless it was conductive to pass the charge around them without affecting them
but that will also mean that it was conductive enough to pass the charge to ground
so then
why ignore that route and charge through the air (less conductivity ) to pass tru me to go to ground?

[dark_lord_tnt]

DID you read anything i said ???

1.) special clothes.. ensured that they were positively charged as well ??? the material in their clothes generated static electricity !!!!! But in their times.. Magic and the chosen tribe..

From your responce SIENCE CAN ONLY BE USED TO EXPLAIN SCIENCE.. havent you read the bible where God Tell Solomon " Foolish is he who follows blindly ???"

[sMASH]

i have another reasoning for dat as well, as to why it is reported that only levite got shocked..
mmm, mmm, mmmm,

in the new testament, there are many accounts for the same thing happening, where details in some differ to the other. probably, with the levite, more people got shocked, but the account u read about is with the levite.

[megadoc1]

DID you read anything i said ???

1.) special clothes.. ensured that they were positively charged as well ??? the material in their clothes generated static electricity !!!!! But in their times.. Magic and the chosen tribe..
so if you touched a levite you would be killed too?

From your responce SIENCE CAN ONLY BE USED TO EXPLAIN SCIENCE.. havent you read the bible where God Tell Solomon " Foolish is he who follows blindly ???" yes thats why am asking questions

[dark_lord_tnt]

Can someone who understands my post please explain it to Mega doc since apparently I am incapable of such

trying again..


The amount of charged produces by the clothes was small yet still positive so no it wouldnt kill you but would tingle you a bit thats why the bible has pieces which explain that the levite's appeared mystical as well and should not be touched.

and no one was allowed within a cretin distance of the ark and it had to be carried with rods and then they built a special temple for it etc.. and it would glow at night and they kepth it far from the village.. Safety First!!!

[sMASH]

this is not an attack on the religion or it's importance, but more like a possible rational explanation of what may have transpired.

hoss man, at least that have a rational possibility, be thankful. in islam we are told that once the moon was split in two across the horizon, and then rejoined together again, with only a few peoples seeing it and a few reports from different lands. be thankful u don't have something big like that to defend.

[megadoc1]

:(

Can someone who understands my post please explain it to Mega doc since apparently I am incapable of such
you have done well I am just trying to add it up
please be patient with me
trying again..


The amount of charged produces by the clothes was small yet still positive so no it wouldnt kill you but would tingle you a bit thats why the bible has pieces which explain that the levite's appeared mystical as well and should not be touched.
how would you explain that little charge saving you from the bigger zap? both charges wouldn't want to be heading in the same direction?

and no one was allowed within a cretin distance of the ark and it had to be carried with rods and then they built a special temple for it etc.. and it would glow at night and they kepth it far from the village.. Safety First!!!
so Moses ruled a people with electricity? is that what you are saying?
and can you tell us what would happen to those fools if they attempted to cross the jordan ?

[dark_lord_tnt]

" how would you explain that little charge saving you from the bigger zap? both charges wouldn't want to be heading in the same direction? "

hmmm take 2 magnets ,, put the negative sides facing each other it repels,, Now use a larger and smaller magnet.. It still repels.. Same principle..

"so Moses ruled a people with electricity? is that what you are saying?"

you actually want me to answer that ??? Instead I'll say this.. The ark was a symbol of a supreme GOD.. The so called "magical" properties helped emphasize this..

"and can you tell us what would happen to those fools if they attempted to cross the jordan ?"

your kidding me right ???


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9207/400pxpesah129.jpg

Until recently before they started assembling dams,, The river Jordan was 18 feet deep at its shallowest and 37 feet deep at its deepest. So it stands to reason they would cross it in a boat.. or a bridge.. The bible only makes references to it and crossing it ,, it does not say how :p and its Joshua that crossed the river Jordan..

[megadoc1]

" how would you explain that little charge saving you from the bigger zap? both charges wouldn't want to be heading in the same direction? "

hmmm take 2 magnets ,, put the negative sides facing each other it repels,, Now use a larger and smaller magnet.. It still repels.. Same principle..
nah man you will have to prove this one for me
are you saying that a small voltage would prevent a larger voltage from arcing to ground?
why doesn't the electrical force equalize if its the same?

"so Moses ruled a people with electricity? is that what you are saying?"

you actually want me to answer that ??? Instead I'll say this.. The ark was a symbol of a supreme GOD.. The so called "magical" properties helped emphasize this..

"and can you tell us what would happen to those fools if they attempted to cross the jordan ?"

your kidding me right ??? no am not how does the bearer of the arc manage across the waters of the river?


http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9207/400pxpesah129.jpg

Until recently before they started assembling dams,, The river Jordan was 18 feet deep at its shallowest and 37 feet deep at its deepest. So it stands to reason they would cross it in a boat.. or a bridge.. The bible only makes references to it and crossing it ,, it does not say how :p and its Joshua that crossed the river Jordan..
what?...maybe you need to ignore this for your explanation to hold sway

joshua 3- 9
Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the LORD your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. 11 See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go into the Jordan ahead of you. 12 Now then, choose twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one from each tribe. 13 And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—set foot in the Jordan, its waters flowing downstream will be cut off and stand up in a heap.”

14 So when the people broke camp to cross the Jordan, the priests carrying the ark of the covenant went ahead of them. 15 Now the Jordan is at flood stage all during harvest. Yet as soon as the priests who carried the ark reached the Jordan and their feet touched the water’s edge, 16 the water from upstream stopped flowing. It piled up in a heap a great distance away, at a town called Adam in the vicinity of Zarethan, while the water flowing down to the Sea of the Arabah (that is, the Dead Sea) was completely cut off. So the people crossed over opposite Jericho. 17 The priests who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD stopped in the middle of the Jordan and stood on dry ground, while all Israel passed by until the whole nation had completed the crossing on dry ground

now what I really want to know is what do you think should happen when those idiots go into the water with the electrical apparatus?

[dark_lord_tnt]

ROFL.... ok lets try this again..

Positive charged particles are attracted to negatively charged particles.. Apparently you cant grasp the concept. if you were positively charged why would u attract positively charged particles ? you would be attracted to negatively charged particles. I'll post the entire theory here for you to read maybe that will help with your understanding of it.. Cause the questions your asking rely on particle flow rather than discharge. The theory of electro dynamics is no longer accepted in the academic world cause it fails to explain a lot of things namely solar flares and eletro static induction, following that theory the Aurora and Anthora should not exist.. . only when you stop thinking along that concept can you understand.. So that leaves the entire theory I'll post it for you in a bit...

Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the LORD your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. 11 See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go into the Jordan ahead of you. 12 Now then, choose twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one from each tribe. 13 And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—set foot in the Jordan, its waters flowing downstream will be cut off and stand up in a heap.

did stop and think for a bit what you just posted ?? If GOD did appear to block the water ,, then the levites carrying the ark wouldnt have to worry about it would they ?? They would be to damn busy trying to keep them selves from sinking into the soft mud and slush to the bottom of the river. Not to mention walking in it with the weight of the ark..

A bit of information ,, the ark always was carried ahead of the the rest of people. and they sure as hell couldn't swim with it across the Jordan actually no one can walk across it,, you had to swim it cause its just to deep its 18 feet.. in its shallowest. So its eight er a mistranslation and they took a boat, The part of the ark was added in,, Or Gold can float!!! Similar to other parts of the bible you are captured by what appears to be supernatural when its actually fictional. A nice campfire tale based on exaggeration and fiction.

even self, If the ark was close to the water the electrical discharge would be instant and immense ,, You should have had fish for all.. and the ark would be discharged and would need to recharge..

[DFC]

Dark Lord. Kaun? who are you?
You really teaching us something here!
I'm really enjoying your posts.

I have seen a whole 2 hour special on the Ark on this History Channel special called "Ancient Aliens" I cant remember most of it, but they claimed that the ark contained something of a radio active nature. something that gave the Pharaoh's divine power. They claimed the ark was a nuclear reactor. LOL. i will try to find it on youtube for you.

Anyways its been awhile since i had any input in this thread, and while searching for hardcore porn i came across this article.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18757_5-things-you-wont-believe-arent-in-bible.html

Interesting read. The author sure does bring up some eye opening points.
Maybe MegaDuck and blueboy can say something on it.

[megadoc1]

ROFL.... ok lets try this again..

Positive charged particles are attracted to negatively charged particles.. Apparently you cant grasp the concept. if you were positively charged why would u attract positively charged particles ? you would be attracted to negatively charged particles. if you are
positively charged you would ATTRACT negative particles but how can a smaller positive charge prevent the attraction of negative particles?

I'll post the entire theory here for you to read maybe that will help with your understanding of it.. Cause the questions your asking rely on particle flow rather than discharge. The theory of electro dynamics is no longer accepted in the academic world cause it fails to explain a lot of things namely solar flares and eletro static induction, following that theory the Aurora and Anthora should not exist.. . only when you stop thinking along that concept can you understand.. So that leaves the entire theory I'll post it for you in a bit...
looks forward to seeing such

Joshua said to the Israelites, “Come here and listen to the words of the LORD your God. 10 This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. 11 See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go into the Jordan ahead of you. 12 Now then, choose twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one from each tribe. 13 And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—set foot in the Jordan, its waters flowing downstream will be cut off and stand up in a heap.

did stop and think for a bit what you just posted ?? If GOD did appear to block the water ,, then the levites carrying the ark wouldnt have to worry about it would they ?? They would be to damn busy trying to keep them selves from sinking into the soft mud and slush to the bottom of the river. Not to mention walking in it with the weight of the ark..
ah ha so God is playing a part now eh? nice nice
but i posted that in reponse to you saying that there was no accounts of it in the bible

A bit of information ,, the ark always was carried ahead of the the rest of people. and they sure as hell couldn't swim with it across the Jordan actually no one can walk across it,, you had to swim it cause its just to deep its 18 feet.. in its shallowest. So its eight er a mistranslation and they took a boat, The part of the ark was added in,, Or Gold can float!!! Similar to other parts of the bible you are captured by what appears to be supernatural when its actually fictional. A nice campfire tale based on exaggeration and fiction. thats a cop out

even self, If the ark was close to the water the electrical discharge would be instant and immense ,, You should have had fish for all.. and the ark would be discharged and would need to recharge..we are now beginning to agree on something
but how come this result is only with water and not the men carrying the arc with their "low voltage" protection?

[dark_lord_tnt]

cause the water is negatively charged..

[megadoc1]

sir how do you arrive at this?

[dark_lord_tnt]

Preface

It was the 2 September 1859. The clipper ship Southern Cross was off Chile when, at 1:30am, it The Carrington Flaresailed into a living hell. Hailstones from above and waves from all around whipped the deck. When the wind-lashed ocean spray fell away to leeward, the men noticed they were sailing in an ocean of blood. The colour was reflected from the sky, which, they could see – even through the clouds – was wreathed in an all-encompassing red glow

he sailors recognised the lights as the southern aurora that usually graced the skies near the Antarctic Circle, just as their northern counterparts cling to the Arctic. To see them from this far north was highly unusual. As the gale subsided, they witnessed an even more astonishing display. Fiery lights loomed against the horizon as if some terrible conflagration had engulfed the Earth. Vivid bolts flew across the now clear sky in spiral streaks and exploded in silent brilliance, as if the very souls of all humanity were fleeing whatever cataclysm had befallen the planet.

Upon their arrival at San Francisco, the ship’s company discovered that theirs was not an isolated experience. Two thirds of the Earth’s skies had been similarly smothered. Also, there was a sinister side to the aurorae.

The beguiling lights had disabled the telegraph system, wiping out communications across the world. For days, nature refused to allow these arteries of information to flow freely. It was as if today’s Internet had suddenly, inexplicably shut down. Worse still, the aurora also threatened life and limb.

In Philadelphia, a telegrapher was stunned by a severe shock. In some offices the equipment burst into flames. In Bergen, Norway, the operators had to scramble to disconnect the apparatus, risking electrocution. On top of this, compasses spun uselessly under the grip of the aurora, disrupting global navigation. In October 2003, a Japanese weather satellite died during a solar storm. In 1989, millions of North Americans were blacked out when a solar storm damaged the Hydro-Quebec power station in Canada

...

The equilibrium distribution of ionic particles in a charged disordered background is studied using the nonlinear Poisson-Boltzmann equation. For interacting ions in an arbitrarily given realization of the disorder, an exact solution of the equation is obtained in one dimension using a mapping of the nonlinear Poisson-Boltzmann equation to a self-consistent Schrödinger equation. It is shown that the ions are not distributed so as to locally neutralize the background, presumably due to their mutual interactions.

n this paper, potential of diagnostics with the use of K[alpha] radiation for an energy deposition process from an intense ion-beam to background plasma is considered quantitatively. K[alpha] radiation is a good candidate for the purpose. The wavelength of K[alpha] radiation is varied according to the charge state of an emitter atom, and the diagnostics spatially resolved with radiations from various kinds of charge states can give us a profile of plasma temperature in a target material. For the calculation of K[alpha] yield, an atomic population kinetics code is developed, and the result shows that K[alpha] radiation has potential to get information of a plasma profile heated by an intense ion-beam.

1. A dual purpose MRI contrast medium consisting essentially of an aqueous dispersion of superparamagnetic solid particles and at least one polyelectrolyte which acts as a dispersant, said polyelectrolyte having an average molecular weight of from 1,000 to 25,000 said superparamagnetic solid particles having a primary particle size of from 7 to 50 nm and a specific surface area of from 30 to 130 m2 /g and being present in the dispersions in the form of colloidal units with on average only one superparamagnetic solid particle enveloped by the polyelectrolyte, and said polyelectrolyte having a charge number greater than 5, with the proviso that the relaxivities of the contrast media are such that r1 is greater than 9×104 M-1 s-1 and the ratio of r2 to r1 is at least 7, measured at 20 MHz and 37° C.

2. A dual purpose MRI contrast medium comprising a dispersion as claimed in claim 1, wherein r1 is greater than 5×104 M-1 s-1, measured at 10 kHz and 37° C. and is greater than 1.5×105 M-1 s-1 when measured at 4 MHz and 37° C.

In a recent Letter, Mehrabi and Sahimi discuss motion
of ions in charged disordered media, presenting a variety
of results obtained by Monte Carlo simulation on a
lattice [1]. Their observations of mean square displacements
R2(t) suggest that this model exhibits anomalous
diffusion in three dimensions:
R2(t) ∼ (const)t1− as t → ∞ . (1)
They observe the same behavior in one and two dimensions,
but do not present results for . Mehrabi and
Sahimi also make the physically-surprising claim that a
suitably-defined “short-time diffusivity” can actually increase
with increasing disorder strength (see Fig. 3 of
Ref. [1]). Exact bounds, renormalization group calculations,
and previous numerical simulations are inconsistent
with these results in three dimensions.
At low concentrations of mobile ions, the Green function
for a diffusing ion should obey the diffusion equation:
@cv(r, t)
@t
= D0∇2cv + D0∇ · [cv∇v(r)] . (2)
Here cv is the Green function of a single ion in a given
realization of the quenched random potential v, D0 is
the “bare,” short-time diffusivity, and  is the inverse
temperature. The mean square displacement is given by
R2
v(t) = R ddr|r|2cv(r, t). The observable mean square
displacement is given by an average over all realizations
of the disorder: R2(t) = hR2
v(t)i. The effective diffusion
diffusion coefficient is defined in d dimensions by D =
limt!1 R2(t)/(2 d t).
Mehrabi and Sahimi model the disorder by a quenched
Gaussian random potential field. The statistics of this
potential field are chosen so that they obey bulk charge
neutrality: ˆvv(k) =
/[k2(k2+2)]. Here the potentialpotential
correlation function is vv(r) = hv(0)v(r)i,  is
an inverse correlation length, and
is a measure of the
density of defects. The Fourier transform in d dimensions
is given by ˆ f(k) = R ddrf(r) exp(ik · r).
The single-ion, random diffusion model is a wellstudied
one in statistical physics, and a variety of exact
results are known. First, there is an exact bound for the
diffusivity in this system in any dimension [2]:
D
D0
≥ exp[−2vv(0)] . (3)
Calculating this bound in three dimensions, one finds
D/D0 ≥ exp[−2
/(4)]. This result implies that the
motion is diffusive in three dimensions, i.e. D > 0. The
motion is also diffusive at finite ion concentrations, since
the dynamical exponent is 2 [3]. Therefore, the motionshould be asymptotically diffusive in three dimensions.
Indeed, previous careful simulations by Dean, Drummond,
and Horgan on related models have confirmed the
bound [4]. Moreover, these simulations have shown that
Deem and Chandler’s single-ion prediction [5]
D
D0
= exp[−2vv(0)/d] (4)
is accurate to at least moderate disorder strengths. In
fact, this equation is correct to second order in 2vv(0)
in all dimensions and is exact in one dimension. Note
that, as expected physically, the diffusion constant decreases
with increasing disorder strength.
The situation is more interesting in two dimensions,
where anomalous diffusion can occur [the bound in Eq.
(3) vanishes]. Indeed, field-theoretic treatments have
shown that the exponent in Eq. (1) is continuously variable
and is given exactly by  = 1/[1 + 82/(2
)] [6].
This scaling has been confirmed by numerical simulations
[7]. At finite ion concentrations, the anomalous diffusion
persists at high temperature [3], although the mobile ions
may partially screen the disorder. A Kosterlitz-Thouless
transition can occur at low temperature

get the rest, look up info :
10.1103/PhysRevLett.83.1694
Cite as: arXiv:cond-mat/9902196v2

[megadoc1]

breds you need to explain how come a static charge can
discharge close to water but not to ground and yet would travel several feet in the thin air
to strike men but not go to the ground at a closer point to its base, although to strike men it means that it passes through them to get to ground, the very point it seems to avoid based on what you are suggesting

[dark_lord_tnt]

I am not avoiding the the topic I attempted to explain this several times to you. I even posted the first 2 pages of the White Paper above and yet you pose the same question over in different forms. You keep thinking of positive and negative conductors and yet you fail to realize that does not apply. Solar flares (sun ionized rays does not require such) positive and negative terminals, that is part of a limited theory which has proven itself obsolete. The electric principle, electromagnetic forces, electo static forces are way beyond such. Given your tremendous reliance on that, what completes the circuit between the sun and earths troposphere ? What completes the circuit in molecular bonding? Why are Gama rays or radiation effective ? There is no physical connection. Reason being positive and negative terminals are only required by that limited knowledge. Tesla succeeded in making a bulb light without any physical wires connected to it. How ? "Quantum Ionization". Electric charges of the surrounding atmosphere. The same can be seen by holding a florescent bulb close to a Van d Griff Generator. There are not physical connections of wires to it nor any sparks hitting it yet it still lights. Why ? cause the air around it is positively charged by the generator.


this is the last time I'm trying as i said in so many post ago..

1.) the electric charge of the ark charges the air around it (positive charge) high in ions..
2.) cause the air is charged the surrounding area is charged. Anything not within this area is not charged.
3.) this charge will discharge itself to anything negative..like the water since it isnt charged the ark will discharge to it. It will do so once the ark get close enough even before anyone carrying it gets a chance to step foot in it. It will happen in an instant.

READ!!!! the white paper and there is the reference to the theory READ IT!! its above..

I am no longer attempting to explain this since apparently you are the only one that cannot grasp the theory nor concept of "Quantum Ionization" ("THERMIONIC DISCHARGE principle"). Its eighter that or you refuse to see the possibility that the ark had nothing to do with the supernatural but was just physics in action.

If you chose to believe God of Israel powered the ark then you will have to admit he also powered the many Egyptian arks since they all had the same power. Its eighter that or there is more than 1 god....

BTW..

יהושע שלוש תשע (jousha 3 - 9:13)

יהושע אמר לבני ישראל, בוא לכאן ולשמוע את דברי ה 'אלוהי. זה אלוהים חיים הוא בכם כי הוא ילחם איתך נגד הכנענים החיתים והחוי והפרזי הגרגשי האמרי ואת היבוסי. ראה, את ארון ברית ה 'כל הארץ ילכו מעבר לירדן לפניך. אז עכשיו לבחור שנים עשר אנשים מכל שבטי ישראל אחד מכל שבט. וברגע הכהנים אשר לשאת את ארון יהוה את האדון של רגל כל קבוצה האדמה מעל הירדן בארץ הכנעני, ומימיו זורמים במורד הזרם עלמו עבור לורד יגוועו ברעב האויב ש.

Joshua said to the Israelites, Come here and listen to the words of the LORD your God. This living God is among you and that he will go into battle with you against the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go across the Jordan ahead of you. Now then, choose twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one from each tribe. And as soon as the priests who carry the ark of the LORD—the Lord of all the earth—set foot over the Jordan in the land of the Canaanites, its waters flowing downstream will vanish for the lord will starve your enemy.

[Kasey]

darklord, I think all the intelligent ppl here understand what you are saying, please do not go on..........again and again. D_spike tried many times to get through to this individual, but with no success. You will realise that this individual is not really normal. Dont waste your time.

[megadoc1]

I am not avoiding the the topic I attempted to explain this several times to you. I even posted the first 2 pages of the White Paper above and yet you pose the same question over in different forms. You keep thinking of positive and negative conductors and yet you fail to realize that does not apply. Solar flares (sun ionized rays does not require such) positive and negative terminals, that is part of a limited theory which has proven itself obsolete. The electric principle, electromagnetic forces, electo static forces are way beyond such. Given your tremendous reliance on that, what completes the circuit between the sun and earths troposphere ? What completes the circuit in molecular bonding? Why are Gama rays or radiation effective ? There is no physical connection. Reason being positive and negative terminals are only required by that limited knowledge. Tesla succeeded in making a bulb light without any physical wires connected to it. How ? "Quantum Ionization". Electric charges of the surrounding atmosphere. The same can be seen by holding a florescent bulb close to a Van d Griff Generator. There are not physical connections of wires to it nor any sparks hitting it yet it still lights. Why ? cause the air around it is positively charged by the generator.
breds I hear what you are saying but this does not apply to what you describe of the ark


this is the last time I'm trying as i said in so many post ago..

1.) the electric charge of the ark charges the air around it (positive charge) high in ions..
2.) cause the air is charged the surrounding area is charged. Anything not within this area is not charged. what about the ground?
3.) this charge will discharge itself to anything negative..like the water since it isnt charged the ark will discharge to it. It will do so once the ark get close enough even before anyone carrying it gets a chance to step foot in it. It will happen in an instant.
great but what about the ground? what about trees?

READ!!!! the white paper and there is the reference to the theory READ IT!! its above..
that theory isn't necessary to explain something so primitive as the ark that you described here where static electricity is concerned, you are just trying to make it sound technical but I think only those who don't have a clue how this thing works would blindly take your word for it
what you are doing is no different than a man quoting from the bible to justify his actions
please don't try to preach with science

I am no longer attempting to explain this since apparently you are the only one that cannot grasp the theory nor concept of "Quantum Ionization" ("THERMIONIC DISCHARGE principle").no its just that you cannot feed me that kind a garbage
knowing fully well it does not add up maybe if it was religion it would be up to me to believe but this is science so don't expect me to believe what you say prove it
I hope you don't assume that I never experimented in this field
lets make sure at the end of the day your theories can be tested and proven ok
Its eighter that or you refuse to see the possibility that the ark had nothing to do with the supernatural but was just physics in action.no I dont ! do not assume such
in science we should be able to repeat what you are describing here so don't just throw things out hoping that we would believe, this is not religion



If you chose to believe God of Israel powered the ark then you will have to admit he also powered the many Egyptian arks since they all had the same power. Its eighter that or there is more than 1 god....
we are not discussing God's role in the arc we are discussing the electrical characteristics of the arc that you suggested on here

so i will ask again

breds how come a static charge can
discharge close to water but not to ground and yet would travel several feet in the thin air
to strike men but not go to the ground at a closer point to its base, although to strike men it means that it passes through them to get to ground, the very point it seems to avoid based on what you are suggesting

and more how come when every thing else around the arc is positively charged
the levites ends up with a little less charge than the ark?
why is the static energy not equalizing?
look at the vid below
now tell me how is it possible to come into contact with a high voltage source and not equalize with it but remain at a lower voltage?

[dark_lord_tnt]

breds I hear what you are saying but this does not apply to what you describe of the ark

Its exactly what i described

that theory isn't necessary to explain something so primitive as the ark that you described here where static electricity is concerned, you are just trying to make it sound technical but I think only those who don't have a clue how this thing works would blindly take your word for it
what you are doing is no different than a man quoting from the bible to justify his actions
please don't try to preach with science

So your saying what applies now didnt apply then ?? So water at that time wasnt hydrogen and oxygen ??

no its just that you cannot feed me that kind a garbage
knowing fully well it does not add up maybe if it was religion it would be up to me to believe but this is science so don't expect me to believe what you say prove it
I hope you don't assume that I never experimented in this field
lets make sure at the end of the day your theories can be tested and proven ok

OK MR WISE ONE EXPLAIN THIS!!!!!! SINCE YOU CLAIM TO KNOW SO MUCH!!!


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5509/17975882.jpg

The telegraph Lines are not connected to aything Its simply suspended on the WOODEN POLES. A single line. Yet it sparks and carries a current that actually killed several people ? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE ?? Since you know so much this should be easy for you.. Unless you dont know anything ?




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I'll explain this as i would a child..

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8919/51314164.jpg


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4968/54764145.jpg

[dark_lord_tnt]

energy is transferred in the form of heat (plasma) and eletric energy. THERMIONIC DISCHARGE!!! since science isnt a strong point of yours i hope the images help you..

Thanks for that info Kassey Taking your advice.. One cannot learn until one accepts he knows nothing..

hey DFC I'll love that link if you got it. I saw a few of your previous post I can help you understand them a bit better if you like.. Choose One.

Smash: actually there was a rational explanation for the moon splitting in half and yes it was recorded in several cultures. I'll explain this to you later on let me find my notes on it first so I can Post references and sources of my information as well..

[megadoc1]

breds I hear what you are saying but this does not apply to what you describe of the ark

Its exactly what i described

that theory isn't necessary to explain something so primitive as the ark that you described here where static electricity is concerned, you are just trying to make it sound technical but I think only those who don't have a clue how this thing works would blindly take your word for it
what you are doing is no different than a man quoting from the bible to justify his actions
please don't try to preach with science

So your saying what applies now didnt apply then ?? no I am not So water at that time wasnt hydrogen and oxygen ?? ugh?? where yuh going man?

no its just that you cannot feed me that kind a garbage
knowing fully well it does not add up maybe if it was religion it would be up to me to believe but this is science so don't expect me to believe what you say prove it
I hope you don't assume that I never experimented in this field
lets make sure at the end of the day your theories can be tested and proven ok

OK MR WISE ONE EXPLAIN THIS!!!!!! SINCE YOU CLAIM TO KNOW SO MUCH!!!
I never made that claim here take yuh time

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5509/17975882.jpg

The telegraph Lines are not connected to aything Its simply suspended on the WOODEN POLES. A single line. Yet it sparks and carries a current that actually killed several people ? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE ??clearly we may not have need to go into all that but answer me something if those suspended lines were grounded or shorted to ground would it contain a spark still? Since you know so much this should be easy for you.. Unless you dont know anything ? please stop with this nonsense


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I'll explain this as i would a child..

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8919/51314164.jpg


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4968/54764145.jpg
hey nice pics can this be done in real life?
can you build something like this for me ?
all me life i tried building a unit just what you described here (for obvious reasons)but i was always shocked back to reality learning that electricity is no respecter of persons .....hey that was how I ended u with the name megadoc in the first place
so please I beg do you have an idea how to go about building one of those things that can positvely charge me up without burning out whats left with my brian? thanks

[dark_lord_tnt]

Its already been done,, its called a Van D Griff Generator!!!! Its a long tubular device that sits on the ground and has sphere on top that charges the air with static electricity (a small amount) so it gives a slight tingle but it isnt dangerous.. Or you can hit your self a few times on the back or head with a duster or piece of fur and charge your self that way ,, or just place your hands on the screen of a CRT monitor or TV that has a lot of crackling sound. Now just your hands close enough to something and zap them. Be it your wife , a piece of metal (even if its suspended in mid air), anything.

You said a theory isnt necessary to explain anything so primitive so. In your own words this suggest that primitive stuff works differently ? So thats why i asked about water.

What do you mean by dont go there ?? The lines were close to the ground actually the ones on the spindle became charged. Trains everything and anything metal including jewelery. was charged. While some killed some just zapped. Actually quite a few lost their lives.

From your response its clear that you dont know anything of which your debating on.

No response on this topic will no longer be entertained.

[DFC]

SWEET RAPTOR JESUS !

DARK LORD !!!
bwaahahahahahahahahahhahahahah.

I can't believe you drew those diagrams. It's soo funny.

Megaduck is a tough one.

Anyway, here are the links for the Ancient Aliens Episode.

[sMASH]

veymana's

[Kasey]

BWWAAAHHHAAAHHHAAAHHHAA!!!!!!!!!!
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4968/54764145.jpg

[dark_lord_tnt]

HEY DFC ,, yeah I know about those Its was first discussed in the chariot of the gods. With ancient times of aliens visiting the earth, refrences of it in the bible. Ancient technology like the "Vimana's" from the hindu / india's culture. There was a paper released a few years ago concerning the Vimana Sastra which is actually a guide to building the vimana, It discusses technology such as mercury engines, particle accelerators, atomic weapons, reverse fusion, Its quite amazing actually. Even self the hindu sastra's actually go into great detail about atoms and neutrons and the universe , matter, dark matter , anti matter, reverse kinetics. And these were written Thousands of years ago, long before the Thora and other religions around the time of the Sumerians or before that as well. This is something thats worthy of discussion just need to get my notes on it first. Dont want to post anything without references and sources any more..

[QG]

Cool...interesting!

[Kasey]

HEY DFC ,, yeah I know about those Its was first discussed in the chariot of the gods. With ancient times of aliens visiting the earth, refrences of it in the bible. Ancient technology like the "Vimana's" from the hindu / india's culture. There was a paper released a few years ago concerning the Vimana Sastra which is actually a guide to building the vimana, It discusses technology such as mercury engines, particle accelerators, atomic weapons, reverse fusion, Its quite amazing actually. Even self the hindu sastra's actually go into great detail about atoms and neutrons and the universe , matter, dark matter , anti matter, reverse kinetics. And these were written Thousands of years ago, long before the Thora and other religions around the time of the Sumerians or before that as well. This is something thats worthy of discussion just need to get my notes on it first. Dont want to post anything without references and sources any more..

YES!! This could be my best encounter with God!!!