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Postby rfari » July 8th, 2013, 7:08 am

Well dais it dey. Growley choat hadda geh buss now :-|

E-MAILS FAKE

Story Updated: Jul 7, 2013

acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams

The e-mails are fake.Based on the documents before him, this statement has come from acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams on the 31 e-mails read by Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley into the Hansard in Parliament on May 20.“Those documents are purporting to be e-mails but they are not. They are fake,” he told the Express in an exclusive interview at Police Administration building in Port of Spain last Friday.Pressed by the Express to explain this point, maintained that the e-mails were not authentic. The authenticity of the e-mails and their content have been the subject of political posturing by the highest office-holders—Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, Attorney General Anand Ramlogan and Rowley.And other top office-holders have also been dragged into the “emailgate” probe, including chairman of the Integrity Commission Ken Gordon, Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Roger Gaspard and Chief Justice Ivor Archie.Even the top cop’s ability and that of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS) to properly investigate the matter have been the subject of public debate amidst the 46-day-old police probe.The e-mails’ authenticity was only one facet of the police investigation.While their authenticity was dismissed by Williams, their content—an alleged plot to cover up the Section 34 debacle; an attempt to bribe the DPP by using the Chief Justice to offer him the post of High Court judge; and an attempt to intimidate a reporter working on the Section 34 fall-out—was not.“But do those documents read by the Opposition Leader represent the content of e-mails or exchanges? That is what the police is looking into,” he noted.The Express understands that the e-mails, in part, represent intercepted conversations between individuals involved in emailgate.Williams chose not to comment on whether Rowley’s document could be intercepted information.For now, he said, emailgate is not a criminal investigation, only a probe.“There is no established criminal offence. A probe into the content of the e-mails should help us determine what offences, if any, were committed. If there was an offence, no probe would have been necessary and the police would have acted,” he explained.In his view, the only legal authority to have conducted such a probe was the Police Service and not the Integrity Commission. He noted that very often the Integrity Commission refers matters to the TTPS for investigation. He further dismissed the suggestion that any foreign entity could have conducted an independent investigation on emailgate without the TTPS.“That suggestion is so foolish and it’s coming from people who are supposed to be intelligent. I repeat, the only legal authority to investigate this matter is the TTPS,” said Williams.Questioned on whether there could be a perceived conflict of interest in him investigating the Prime Minister and the Attorney General given that he sits in on meetings of the National Security Council (NSC) with them, Williams said he was not a member of the NSC.When the Express pointed out that previous Commissioners Dwayne Gibbs and James Philbert were members of the NSC, Williams said he was often asked by the chairman of the NSC, Prime Minister Persad-Bissessar, to brief the council, but he was not a member.In his view, any concern about him being partisan to the People’s Partnership Government is misplaced.He said in his 37-year career at the TTPS, he had never been affiliated to any party and would conduct his job with a level of integrity.And if that meant putting high officers behind bars, if there was evidence, then so be it, he added.Cognizant that the public was eager to learn the outcome of the emailgate probe and several other high-profile matters, Williams explained that bureaucracy was a necessary evil in the police business.The onus on the TTPS, he said, was to do a thorough investigation and build airtight cases on all matters. Some matters, like the CLICO probe for instance, he explained, required more dexterity and specialised investigation. He said Director of Public Prosecutions Gaspard only handed over the matter to the police in November 2012, almost three years after CLICO went belly up.Another investigation, the alleged re-introduction of the “Flying Squad” by former minister of National Security Jack Warner, was being wrapped up by Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Simon Alexis, he said.That matter was referred to the TTPS by Persad-Bissessar on March 1.In the case of emailgate, Williams said the Government’s intervention by providing expert witness statements to the TTPS was “not an aid to us”.At the end of the day, Williams explained that despite being furnished with expert opinions, the Police Service will do its own original work on the matter.He deemed the exercises of the AG and Prime Minister in this regard as futile.DCP Mervyn Richardson, who is investigating the e-mail matter, has dismissed the provision of expert IT pronouncements on the e-mails as a “sideshow”.Williams maintained that a successful and timely probe into emailgate couldn’t take place without the cooperation of Persad-Bissessar, AG Ramlogan, national security adviser Gary Griffith, Local Government Minister Surujrattan Rambachan and Rowley.He said the investigators would explore all facets and ensure that all service providers are targeted for information.Asked if he felt the politicians’ pronouncements on the Police Service have affected the public perception of the TTPS and its ability to handle the matter, Williams was undaunted.He noted that elections are won and lost on the issue of crime in T&T.“The single biggest issue for the TTPS is the public perception to police and crime. There is no overnight fix for us. We will have to earn the public trust and regain public confidence in order for us to progress,” he said.But Williams, who was last week appointed by the Police Service Commission (PSC) to act for another six months as Commissioner, said politicians’ statements on the police were simply for political gain.He explained that if crime statistics were high, they were used by the Opposition to flog the Government. Conversely, when crime statistics were favourable, they were used by the Government of the day to bolster support.“If the government changes, it would just be the flipside. The political statements are based on which side of the divide you stand,” said Williams.He noted that the public formed an opinion on the entire Police Service if a police officer, for instance, is charged with stealing a gun or if a police officer if charged with rape. He said it was critical to get rid of the “bad eggs”.At the moment, he said, he was reviewing how to work within the system to remove bad eggs. Williams suggested that the challenge to keep officers straight was a simple case of money.“Money can play a very influential part when someone is in need of money. We need to move officers up to the middle class, like Margaret Thatcher did in the UK, so that temptation is not there. Further, once there is an attractive remuneration package we are able to attract better talent and we can improve overall standards of the TTPS. My vision is for a professional Police Service,” he said.

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Re: anan@gmail.com

Postby Habit7 » July 8th, 2013, 7:20 am

But it is more or less the same conclusion everybody had the next day of Rowley disclosure, the email format is fake but are the contents true?

The criminal probe is not if the AG, PM and other cabal members can email each other, it is whether the content of the email is criminal.

I dont know who sensationalising this more, Express or Williams.

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » July 8th, 2013, 7:44 am

Will rowley be charged and sued for this nonsense?

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Postby javishm » July 8th, 2013, 8:50 am

how they go charge d mann

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Postby X2 » July 8th, 2013, 8:56 am

Can anyone explain how exactly they would prove it was fake ?

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Postby rfari » July 8th, 2013, 9:00 am

*$kїđž![TRADE MARK SIGN] wrote:Will rowley be charged and sued for this nonsense?

Well dais the thing. If kamla et al feeling lucky and proceed with litigation or even disciplinary action it may require a thorough investigation which is quite undesirable from the persons named in the fake emails for one reason or the other

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Postby pioneer » July 8th, 2013, 9:02 am

And allyuh thought Gibbs and Ewatski left jusso jusso

Govt wanted a puppet to manipulate

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Postby Habit7 » July 8th, 2013, 9:05 am

While their authenticity was dismissed by Williams, their content—an alleged plot to cover up the Section 34 debacle; an attempt to bribe the DPP by using the Chief Justice to offer him the post of High Court judge; and an attempt to intimidate a reporter working on the Section 34 fall-out—was not.


The police needs to complete their investigation and make a full presentation to assure the public. Not an exclusive interview to one media outlet on Friday, which is now deciding to publish it.

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Postby JoeBama » July 8th, 2013, 9:18 am

i don't believe the CoP........ until google the Gmail Provider has re-constructed the tread of the emails and says otherwise.....anything that comes out of the mouth of these so called institutional figure heads seems to be tainted with......

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Postby javishm » July 8th, 2013, 10:16 am

X2 wrote:Can anyone explain how exactly they would prove it was fake ?


plenty money was spent...investigations was done....findings given

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Postby JoeBama » July 8th, 2013, 11:41 am

so the emails are fake..hmmm so then the alleged spying on the DDP's office was fake too? the contents of wanting to deal with a reporter was fake... ok if that is the case then every smile a politician make is real with sunshine and rainbows..

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Postby bluefete » July 8th, 2013, 3:12 pm

pioneer wrote:And allyuh thought Gibbs and Ewatski left jusso jusso

Govt wanted a puppet to manipulate


You make so much sense sometimes, it is unbelievable. It is also interesting that the puppet made this statement AFTER getting a 6 month extension.

When Gibbs and Ewatski wanted to change the culture, all the corrupt officers run to Jack Warner and he run dem outta town.

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Postby pioneer » July 8th, 2013, 3:56 pm

Gibbs was about to drop a megaton bomb on the police service, you shoulda see them scampering in and out the PSC everyday to find out when he leavin...

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Postby rfari » July 10th, 2013, 7:03 am

And launch the proceedings against growley for bringing the parliament into disrepute one time.

END E-MAIL PROBE

Story Updated: Jul 9, 2013

PM’s Attorney: Israel Khan

Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s attorney, Israel Khan SC, yesterday called on police to wrap up the now 49-day-long e-mail investigation before the July 29 by-election.

In a telephone interview, Khan said he was frustrated that the police investigations into the e-mail issue has not progressed and remained “hanging over the Prime Minister’s head”.

Khan said the Acting Commissioner of Police, Stephen Williams, was able to make a pronouncement on the matter, referring to an exclusive interview with the Express on Monday in which Williams said the e-mails were fake.

He said though the investigation was being led by Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Mervyn Richardson, Williams’s statement was still relevant .

“It is the DCP who has to bring him (Williams) up to date on what is going on,” Khan said.

Khan questioned whether there was a politics at play within the investigation.

“They have had sufficient time, the Prime Minister has said she will write to the service providers and waive her right to privacy for the month of September and to date we have not heard from them. Is it that Richardson already knows the e-mails to be false?” he asked.

Khan said the matter, once resolved, would implicate either the Prime Minister and the Attorney General in criminal conduct and misbehaviour in public office or implicate Opposition Dr Keith Rowley and his source in charges of treason.

“Why aren’t they moving to expedite this? Who is the guilty party? Could be politics playing out here,” he said.

Khan said with Williams making one comment, while Richardson has not yet concluded investigation, it gave the impression that there was a “split” in the senior police service.

Larry Lalla, attorney for Attorney General Anand Ramlogan, confirmed yesterday that there has been no major update in the investigation. The case hinged on the lack of proper technical and legal protocols in place to deal with the sensitive equipment belonging to both Ramlogan and Local Government, Works and Transport Minister Dr Suruj Rambachan, he said.

“I wrote to the DCP on Friday. We have not yet arrived at a fully consensual point with regards to the protocol issue,” Lalla said.

He refused to say what was in the letter, but added he expected to reach a point of agreement “soon”.

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Postby pioneer » July 10th, 2013, 8:13 am

I hear speak out t&t lookin for court clothes to buy wholesale

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Postby rfari » July 10th, 2013, 8:14 am

Wha dey say? Who name dey say in big?

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Postby pioneer » July 10th, 2013, 8:16 am

Meen wha say nun nah, I ha no money tuh fight case

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Postby rfari » July 10th, 2013, 8:32 am

I just check the site and since yesterday it eh update. It look like it really serious

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Postby wagonrunner » July 10th, 2013, 11:46 am

X2 wrote:Can anyone explain how exactly they would prove it was fake ?

They say so. It's not like they would be dishonest.

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Postby pioneer » July 10th, 2013, 11:52 am

Why would they?

They have a perfect track record

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Postby rfari » July 10th, 2013, 9:28 pm

Like the threat to guardian came to pass. Another event substantiated by the fake emails

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Postby Habit7 » July 10th, 2013, 10:44 pm

I must say right now Rowley is lacking hard evidence, but the PP is showing clear motive.

Whatever Rowley is relying on besides the email content, he should reveal it soon to confirm what is being more and more self evident.

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Postby redmanjp » July 10th, 2013, 10:57 pm

exactly how they determine the contents true? were there phone conversations that were intercepted?

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Postby kurpal_v2 » July 10th, 2013, 11:03 pm

rfari wrote:I just check the site and since yesterday it eh update. It look like it really serious





Big clean up to remove all them innocent talk

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Postby brams112 » July 10th, 2013, 11:03 pm

redmanjp wrote:exactly how they determine the contents true? were there phone conversations that were intercepted?

But ent Rowlie say he got it from a leaking line,it have to be real,Rowlie say he believe it real bhai.

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Postby pioneer » July 10th, 2013, 11:18 pm

rfari wrote:Like the threat to guardian came to pass. Another event substantiated by the fake emails


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Postby mrtrini45 » July 13th, 2013, 9:57 am

Suruj: Google proves fake e-mail address


By Renuka Singh

Story Created: Jul 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM ECT

Story Updated: Jul 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM ECT

Local Government Minister Dr Suruj Rambachan yesterday produced a letter from international Internet service provider (ISP) Google which deemed at least one e-mail address, anan@gmail.com, to be fake.

This was among 31 e-mails read in Parliament on May 20 by Opposition leader Dr Keith Rowley, in his motion of no confidence against Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar.

In reading out the letter from Google, dated June 11, Rambachan said a claim was made in Parliament which named him as the “conspirator in a crime”, and he asked Google if there was any correspondence to his Hotmail e-mail account from that e-mail address.

“My enquiry is whether any such

e-mail was sent to me by anan@gmail.com between September 1 and September 30, 2012. Further, whether anan@gmail.com existed during this period,” he read.

Rambachan also read a same-day response from internationalcivil@google.com, in which he was told that “after a diligent search and reasonable enquiry, we have found no subscriber information or IP (Internet Protocol) log information for any gmail account created by a user with the e-mail address anan@gmail.com”.

Rambachan admitted that that response focused on the e-mail address and not the content but said one invalidated the other.

Rambachan was among a full ministerial camp accompanying United National Congress (UNC) Chaguanas West by-election candidate Khadijah Ameen on her walkabout in Caroni yesterday.

Noticeably absent at the beginning of the walkabout, however, was Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar, who joined the party on the back of a UNC-decorated truck after 6 p.m.

But in the Prime Minister’s absence, Ameen had support from Rambachan, Attorney General Anand Ram­logan, Housing Minister Dr Roo­dal Moonilal, Education Minister Dr Tim Gopeesingh, Transport Minister Chandresh Sharma, Public Utilities Minister Nizam Baksh, Tourism Minister Stephen Cadiz, Minister in the Ministry of Finance Rudy Indarsingh, Minister of Planning Bhoe Tewarie, Minister of the People and Social Development Glenn Ramadharsingh, Gender and Youth Affairs Minister Marlene Coudray, Food Production Minister Devant Maharaj, Minister in the Ministry of Food Production Jai­ram Seemungal and Minister in the Min­istry of Water Resources Ramona Ramdial.

Rejected Chaguanas West nominee Manohar Ramsaran joined the walk and wore a yellow hat, saying he was always a supporter of Ameen and the UNC.

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Postby Habit7 » July 13th, 2013, 10:15 am

^^^Great this is good news!


Now all he has to do is get a correspondence from Microsoft saying that his email surujrambachan@hotmail.com is not real and he didnt send his emails in emailgate :)

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Postby rfari » July 13th, 2013, 11:19 am

^^:pwned:

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Postby pugboy » July 13th, 2013, 12:23 pm

so how does one know that the printout suruj using is not a fake one also ?

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