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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 1:13 pm

low-profile wrote:hey guys , can anyone tell me when casting a floor on decking sheets, how thick should the concrete be above the sheet? is it 2 or 3 inches? and whats the overall thickness of the floor with the decking sheet?

also whats the maximum height a stair riser could be?

Different manufacturers have different depth deck pan but two inches above the pan is good. I use three inches, it takes a lot more concrete though.
a step is usually 7" x 11" ,but according to the situation ,and you have a space problem you can adjust it. Just remember you have to climb it every day for the rest of your life,lol.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby low-profile » June 26th, 2016, 3:24 pm

rspann wrote:
low-profile wrote:hey guys , can anyone tell me when casting a floor on decking sheets, how thick should the concrete be above the sheet? is it 2 or 3 inches? and whats the overall thickness of the floor with the decking sheet?

also whats the maximum height a stair riser could be?

Different manufacturers have different depth deck pan but two inches above the pan is good. I use three inches, it takes a lot more concrete though.
a step is usually 7" x 11" ,but according to the situation ,and you have a space problem you can adjust it. Just remember you have to climb it every day for the rest of your life,lol.



i was thinking 7.5" or even 7.75" as i am limited with the length of the run. but i was wondering if this height would cause any problems.
thanks for the reply

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 4:13 pm

If you change the riser, you will change the tread too if working with a fixed horizontal run.less than 10 or 11inches tread is somewhat uncomfortable. Easy way to solve it, take the horizontal run that you have available,divide it by 11 ,that will tell you the no of steps.take the height you are working with in inches and divide it by the no of steps,that will give you the riser height you need,but 7.75 isn't too bad.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby low-profile » June 26th, 2016, 4:57 pm

rspann wrote:If you change the riser, you will change the tread too if working with a fixed horizontal run.less than 10 or 11inches tread is somewhat uncomfortable. Easy way to solve it, take the horizontal run that you have available,divide it by 11 ,that will tell you the no of steps.take the height you are working with in inches and divide it by the no of steps,that will give you the riser height you need,but 7.75 isn't too bad.



actually the tread working out to be 10.75" with the 7.75" riser

i'm doing a quarter landing stair but i only have 13' to work with on the main run and thats including the platform (4'x4'). i'm also trying to keep the 2nd run as short as possible because that part would be jotting out into my living room. and also trying to keep the platform as low as possible because of the rc beam across the top of the columns. i need at least 6' clearence between the rc beam and the platform. any suggestions?

it should look like this.... https://www.google.tt/search?q=types+of ... E4sn3fM%3A

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 6:03 pm

That is exactly like one I have at home. I'll try to post a pic in a while. Top is nine steps and bottom after the landing is three and a half. The half is like a landing too but four inches high. The ninth is inside the landing and the others turn at a right angle.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 6:06 pm

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby low-profile » June 26th, 2016, 7:00 pm

i'm not too particular about the 9th step being inside the landing like that tho.
if it came to that and i need another stair, i was thinking of doing a winder where the landing splits in 2 like this ........https://www.google.tt/search?q=winder+s ... DNxjeBM%3A


what are the dimensions on your risers and threads? also whats the height between the landing and the top beam? and how far does the 3 and a half stairs jot out?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby The Raven » June 26th, 2016, 8:40 pm

Rspann, you did not put any hand rails?

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Re: RE: Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby JF.K » June 26th, 2016, 8:53 pm

The Raven wrote:Rspann, you did not put any hand rails?

This is what I was wondering as well...
Kinda unsafe.. like hustling and slipping or something.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 9:13 pm

Just haven't got time to do it yet,but to fall off that staircase you would have to be a midget,because the only the last two treaders and the landing have head clearance.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 9:19 pm

low-profile wrote:i'm not too particular about the 9th step being inside the landing like that tho.
if it came to that and i need another stair, i was thinking of doing a winder where the landing splits in 2 like this ........https://www.google.tt/search?q=winder+s ... DNxjeBM%3A


what are the dimensions on your risers and threads? also whats the height between the landing and the top beam? and how far does the 3 and a half stairs jot out?

11" x 7.5" but notice the 12" Planks on the treaders with an over hang and bullnose.makes it real
comfortable.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 9:21 pm

Oh, and it juts out 4 ft.Head clearance is 6ft.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 26th, 2016, 9:26 pm

The winder would have been my choice if I had head clearance. With the winder the outer half of the step would be unusable because the headroom is from the landing. So you could actually come down to the last step and turn.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby low-profile » June 27th, 2016, 6:23 am

rspann wrote:The winder would have been my choice if I had head clearance. With the winder the outer half of the step would be unusable because the headroom is from the landing. So you could actually come down to the last step and turn.


ok i understand. are those planks screwed down to the steps?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 27th, 2016, 6:52 am

Yes, they screwed down with Rawl plugs in the step. A dowel in the hole hides the screw.I used a Guyanese hardwood called Kabukali,it doesn't crack or warp,full width of 12".

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby York » June 27th, 2016, 9:10 am

rspann wrote:So advance selling for $850 according to allblacks and Rory says $900 I paid $900, where YOU paying $1357? When you hand mix you have to use the same men to wheelbarrow it to the spot,and to level, so what's the point?

oh this just a quoted price from Readymix Trinidad Ltd, so i assumed that the others would have been in that ballpark but just a bit lower, not that much.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby - Rovin's car audio - » June 27th, 2016, 11:19 am

on searching i found this http://sizes.com/home/stairs.htm

The 1996 Council of American Building Officials (CABO) and the 2000 International Code Council recommendations call for unit runs to be not less than 10 inches and unit rises not more than 7¾ inches.


when i checked d house stairs my dad made even b4 i was born it was nearly exactly this & when i built d step to my old store yrsss ago i used 7x10 which worked out well for me


anybody else does walk up a stairs by stepping over 2 steps or is jes me , since i young i doing dat , kinda impatient i guess .... :oops: ... :lol:

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 27th, 2016, 1:09 pm

you never break your rass that is why you still doing it.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 27th, 2016, 1:19 pm

Building a house for my son ,this one have real space for stairs ,so no worries,built the rail myself.ImageImage

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby *KRONIK* » June 27th, 2016, 2:09 pm

U adopting?

I need a house too!

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Re: RE: Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby urbandilema » June 27th, 2016, 2:32 pm

*KRONIK* wrote:U adopting?

I need a house too!

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby low-profile » June 27th, 2016, 7:16 pm

railing looks good. i'm going to build mine myself too . good ting for SSL welding plan combo package lol.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 27th, 2016, 7:30 pm

The top is a 2 1/2" handrail,the bottom is a 2" embossed pattern ,the uprights are hammered 2x2" rhs and the inserts are all from Idrees marketing. I took the measurements and the angle of the slope of the step. Used MIG to weld it up and so it needed almost no grinding. It is bolted down with Rawl bolts and part cast into a wall so it's very sturdy.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » June 27th, 2016, 8:06 pm

Nice, did u get the hammered 2" from them too ?

Mig really saves time

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby rspann » June 27th, 2016, 8:11 pm

Yeah they have a lot of imported material that you rarely see here. I shame to say how many years I using mig.

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » June 27th, 2016, 8:23 pm

Mig nicer, just need to know it can be deceptive and look like a good bead.
In North America all them fellas use mig on mobile trucks for ease of use

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby ramorr » June 30th, 2016, 11:18 am

Can anyone tell me if you can use Decking pan on concrete beams? And if you can how do you install it?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby The Raven » June 30th, 2016, 11:43 am

Good question, I will be doing This soon. From what the guy said they are leaving steel sticking pout of the beams and post, then making holes in the deck sheet and bending the steel to hold it in place.

Any other options?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby ramorr » June 30th, 2016, 2:26 pm

The Raven wrote:Good question, I will be doing This soon. From what the guy said they are leaving steel sticking pout of the beams and post, then making holes in the deck sheet and bending the steel to hold it in place.

Any other options?


Can you post pics of the job so i could use it as a reference when the work is being done?

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Re: Building a house in Trinidad

Postby GRIM » June 30th, 2016, 6:26 pm

whats the dimensions and cost per square foot for deckpan?

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