PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

[hover11]

Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.

Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quarter

[Chimera]

It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.

Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.

Privatize everything

You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.

[De Dragon]

It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.

Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.

Privatize everything

You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.

I'd normally agree with this logic, but the billions saved by the government in wages, utilities, maintenance etc will just be pissed away in other areas

[hover11]

It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.

Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.

Privatize everything

You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.

It also means that TTEC and WASA rates can double or triple because the companies now are heavily subsidized by the government. First rule in business they must always make a profit. So they don't care if the vulnerable in society are without these commodities. They provide a service and expect profits from such. How many times digicel raised their rates and they are not a monopoly, allya asking for privatization and dont really have a clue what the consequences of such entail

[MaxPower]

Max ,

A Respectful increase would be 10 percent.

Allow me to ask you something, on every occasion that you dealt with a public servant you never received proper service, forget all the stereotypes on here. I'm speaking to you personally.

Jason, morning

I would say 3/10 times i received proper service.

[DMan7]

An argument can be made that if these people are "suffering" or in need of a greater than 2% increase in their salaries then they won't be out in the streets on a working day marching. People truly "suffering" don't have time or money to do that.

[matix]

Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.

Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quarter

To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?

[matix]

It means a much more efficient service though.
Getting through with something in one day rather than having to go into town 20 times over the course of 8 months to a year to get a service completed.

Having proper appointments so everyone doesn't go at 8am and wait all day.

Privatize everything

You will pay more but pay less...if you understand what i saying.

It also means that TTEC and WASA rates can double or triple because the companies now are heavily subsidized by the government. First rule in business they must always make a profit. So they don't care if the vulnerable in society are without these commodities. They provide a service and expect profits from such. How many times digicel raised their rates and they are not a monopoly, allya asking for privatization and dont really have a clue what the consequences of such entail

Efficiency is key in private sector. Which state enterprise can boast efficiency? I will like to elaborate more on my experiences in our beautiful country, buts it’s way too much to type. Sadly most state run organizations are epic failures.

[hover11]

Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.

Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quarter

To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?

I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forward

[De Dragon]

Max ,

A Respectful increase would be 10 percent.

Allow me to ask you something, on every occasion that you dealt with a public servant you never received proper service, forget all the stereotypes on here. I'm speaking to you personally.

Jason, morning

I would say 3/10 times i received proper service.

I would have thought that when faced with your stink presence they would have sorted you out one time

[matix]

Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.

Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quarter

To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?

I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forward

Now we can have a conversation. Time for the population to feel what the actual cost of sheit is.

[hover11]

An argument can be made that if these people are "suffering" or in need of a greater than 2% increase in their salaries then they won't be out in the streets on a working day marching. People truly "suffering" don't have time or money to do that.

Ignorant comment, do you know how your one hour lunch break occurred or the history of it, it was due to unions , maternity leave , health benefits and safe working conditions alot of things we take for granted today was due to ppl fighting hard and pounding pavements. There was a time black ppl couldn't work in banks black power movement changed such but carry on

[hover11]

Money sure, little to no work, gratuity, basically a suckubus on the state. Everything should be privatized.

Privatization means more for taxpayers.....increased prices for utilities and every transaction will have a cost attached similar to the banks that make their millions in profits per quarter

To facilitate the wage increases it’s simple. More taxes by the government. They have to get the money from somewhere. Every aspect of our lives will be affected. Who do you think feels it?

I actually agree with you, alot of increases are being politicized from WASA , TTEC , NIS rates, the government doesn't want to be the bad guy and increase these so they delay the inevitable as long as they can. If privatization occurs all these services will increase forthwith with no political intervention and maybe the country can move forward

Now we can have a conversation. Time for the population to feel what the actual cost of sheit is.

X10000

Along with CAL , ppl think that flights actually cost that amount LOL

[DMan7]

An argument can be made that if these people are "suffering" or in need of a greater than 2% increase in their salaries then they won't be out in the streets on a working day marching. People truly "suffering" don't have time or money to do that.

Ignorant comment, do you know how your one hour lunch break occurred or the history of it, it was due to unions , maternity leave , health benefits and safe working conditions alot of things we take for granted today was due to ppl fighting hard and pounding pavements. There was a time black ppl couldn't work in banks black power movement changed such but carry on

Calm down Martin Luthor King Jr. Jr., I said an argument can be made I'm not the one making the argument.

[Rovin]

so nice big impressive size crowd yesterday - good for them standing up for themselves


buh if election call next wk who dem same setta ppl voting for .....

[agent007]

I do not support an increase in pay for public servant at this time. Employed persons should thank God that they have a job right now because a large chunk of our population would wish to receive a salary. If they do increase salaries then it should be across the board.

But since we have billions of dollars to lose in contract clauses both current and in the past then we should have a little increase right?

[Rory Phoulorie]

Educate me because nearly every private sector employee I deal with on a daily basis shows me a job letter which states contractual or temporary employment. Let's not forget how the unscrupulous private sector works, telling employees only when they permanent they have to take out NIS.

I work in the private sector and my classification is "full-time employee".

There is no such thing as a "permanent employee". No one is permanent in a job.

[hover11]

Educate me because nearly every private sector employee I deal with on a daily basis shows me a job letter which states contractual or temporary employment. Let's not forget how the unscrupulous private sector works, telling employees only when they permanent they have to take out NIS.

I work in the private sector and my classification is "full-time employee".

There is no such thing as a "permanent employee". No one is permanent in a job.

I guess we doing job letters wrong by us my job letter says permanent

[Chimera]

If wasa privatize they could fire about 10000 workers.

Could send out two men to do a job that normally 20 men and 3 truck and a backhoe go out to do.

Ttec the same thing.
Instead of 2 or 3 truckload or workers bubbling pot and playing all fours...

You know what I talking about hovie

[Chimera]

Hovie u need to stop being a hypocrite.
One minute its slave wages. The next minute it real nice because it permanent and flexible and the perks and benefits. Slaves don't have benefits

[agent007]

The difference between permanent and temporary is the way you are released from the job. A permanent employee designation on a job letter is a statement created so that you could swing in the bank and show them a job letter which reduces your credit risk as you’ve shown employability for the duration of the loan period whether it’s to buy a car or house.

Being permanently employed for a minimum of 2 years makes you get the loan but you could get fired the next day. So when men say “yeah boi dan, ah make permanent”, all this means is the process to release you has to follow a certain legal protocol.

[Chimera]

Hovie feel he permanent. The only thing permanent is death hovie.

The other day when rowley talk about being fired if you not vaccinated he run and get fake vaccine card...even though he maintain he permanent

[DMan7]

Mr. Anti-Vaxxer have allyuh tailhead in a spin as usual I see...

[MaxPower]

so nice big impressive size crowd yesterday - good for them standing up for themselves


buh if election call next wk who dem same setta ppl voting for .....

Rov,

PNM 2025 is near.

[hover11]

Hovie feel he permanent. The only thing permanent is death hovie.

The other day when rowley talk about being fired if you not vaccinated he run and get fake vaccine card...even though he maintain he permanent

Permanent workers leave with benefits in the case of redundancy temporary or contract workers do not. Also bear in mind that with even the threats of termination that the public servants were still offered 2 percent so wtf. Dammed if you do dammed if u don't I guess...

[daxt0r]

i cya support that gratuity and back-pay nonsense, you done gettin monthly pay jed wtf more allyuh want, them kinda arrangement i could never agree with, so then Digicel/grocery for example should request back-pay when they raise they bill/prices to the period you have/buy the service/goods and at a predefined period say hear wa pay us this big lumpsum.

Me doh really agree with keithos on much but the most allyuh bloodsuckers deserve is ah one off payment.
Everybody else minus those ontop feelin da bite in the private sector and we actually have to wok for we money and it eh hv nothing like dem chupidness like backpay and gratuity, yuh earn what yuh wok for an thats that.

consider this for a second, do you know what happens during a period of inflation, like right now, when more money is given out, and not earned with an increased rate of productivity? Only with an increase in productive capacity of the entire economy, and god knows that ent possible in the public sector and that applies from d police to nurses and teachers, etc, will it be possible to be paid more money without worsening inflation.
If for example you do get that wage increase, every single person who isn't a public servant will suffer as there is no magic wand to increase wages in the entire private sector an those with the lowest salaries, persons with much lower salaries in the PS, will be affected most.
Are you saying that you and the PS are okay with suffering the most vulnerable and majority of society once they get their increase, whilst remaining as slow and unproductive as the current state?

[MaxPower]

I have to agree with daxt0r.

Public Service workers already benefit enough, more than others, and they generally produce the less work.

An increase is not needed and it’s about time we stop using “2013” as an excuse.

[Chimera]

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/07/cabine ... employees/

Cabinet report: WASA overstaffed by 3,000 employees

let them audit the whole of the public service and buss people throat like that

then talk backpay or increase

[hover11]

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/07/cabinet-report-wasa-overstaffed-by-3000-employees/

Cabinet report: WASA overstaffed by 3,000 employees

let them audit the whole of the public service and buss people throat like that

then talk backpay or increase

I have stated this that they should be fired....3000 workers not on the structure or organization chart. Privatization can solve such lessen political favors but with that comes the public feeling their own pain with increase in rates. At the end of the day the workers didn't hire themselves who allowed that monster to fester and grow.

[hover11]

i cya support that gratuity and back-pay nonsense, you done gettin monthly pay jed wtf more allyuh want, them kinda arrangement i could never agree with, so then Digicel/grocery for example should request back-pay when they raise they bill/prices to the period you have/buy the service/goods and at a predefined period say hear wa pay us this big lumpsum.

Me doh really agree with keithos on much but the most allyuh bloodsuckers deserve is ah one off payment.
Everybody else minus those ontop feelin da bite in the private sector and we actually have to wok for we money and it eh hv nothing like dem chupidness like backpay and gratuity, yuh earn what yuh wok for an thats that.

consider this for a second, do you know what happens during a period of inflation, like right now, when more money is given out, and not earned with an increased rate of productivity? Only with an increase in productive capacity of the entire economy, and god knows that ent possible in the public sector and that applies from d police to nurses and teachers, etc, will it be possible to be paid more money without worsening inflation.
If for example you do get that wage increase, every single person who isn't a public servant will suffer as there is no magic wand to increase wages in the entire private sector an those with the lowest salaries, persons with much lower salaries in the PS, will be affected most.
Are you saying that you and the PS are okay with suffering the most vulnerable and majority of society once they get their increase, whilst remaining as slow and unproductive as the current state?

Dax,

Two questions good sir

With public servants on 2013 salaries and inflation eating away our disposable incomes what do you propose, how do you expect public servants to survive dont we have to enjoy a standard of living similar to you?You sound like a reasonable guy, you can't say they deserve nothing but expect exceptional service, if workers demotivated that is shown. Aside from that public servants deserve backpay and gratuity due to the employer, the government, not paying us current salaries. You In your private sector job you negotiate with your employer individually for increase of pay based in performance for us it is collective bargaining .

Next question, the government new initiative has been the removal of taxes that are desperately needed for the economy to thrive on hybrid vehicles, how on earth is this helping the economy in any form or fashion. That equals forex going out and less taxes for the country , lose- lose situation in my perspective