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hong kong phooey wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:The answer to the question, 17 pages later is
NO
Correct We can mobilize police officers/vehicles to block the highway and about 20 other points in the country simultaneously but we cannot have a officer spend time and investigate or solve a case.
Police service have now become the finance minister revenue collecting agency, because he have no clue how to generate income for the country, except by taking it from citizens.
The police service has become a menace. There must be a better way that the traffic they cause during the Easter weekend.
Families just want to get away and enjoy the beach but instead spent hours in road traffic exercises in multiple locations
Those things don't have demerit points anymore.hong kong phooey wrote:MaxPower wrote:What can the citizens do?
Make our voices heard.
Imagine these stupid laws getting demerit points because of a blown brake light. A brake light can fail at any time. give them a citation to get it fixed and report to the police station in a specified time.
hong kong phooey wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:The answer to the question, 17 pages later is
NO
Correct We can mobilize police officers/vehicles to block the highway and about 20 other points in the country simultaneously but we cannot have a officer spend time and investigate or solve a case.
Police service have now become the finance minister revenue collecting agency, because he have no clue how to generate income for the country, except by taking it from citizens.
The police service has become a menace. There must be a better way that the traffic they cause during the Easter weekend.
Families just want to get away and enjoy the beach but instead spent hours in road traffic exercises in multiple locations
&& and Seepersad will fix him up.Habit7 wrote:Man freed of murder: Too easy to be charged with a crime in T&T
by Derek Achong
20240410
A man, who spent almost 15 years on remand before being freed of murder, has called for the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) and judicial officers to be more circumspect when deciding whether to allow police officers to prosecute citizens for serious crimes.
Linden Roberts made the call after he was acquitted by High Court Judge Gail Gonzales at the end of his judge-alone trial at the Hall of Justice in Port-of-Spain yesterday.
Speaking with Guardian Media shortly after an emotional reunion with his mother, Roberts questioned why the case against him was allowed to proceed to trial when the only evidence linking him to the crime was the allegations of a witness who could not be found to testify against him.
“It is too easy to be charged with a crime in T&T. All that a person has to do is walk into a station and say he did that. That’s it. Sixteen years later, now I am free,” he said.
Roberts described the police officers, who charged him based on the tenuous evidence, as vindictive and wicked.
Roberts was charged with murdering shopkeeper Lloyd George, 28, of Red Hill, D’Abadie.
George was shot dead as he left his girlfriend’s home at O’Keeffe Street, Tunapuna, around 9.45 pm on March 21, 2009.
Although no one witnessed George’s murder, a neighbour claimed he saw a man fleeing the scene in an awaiting vehicle, which he identified by its license plate.
State prosecutors relied on a statement from the owner of the vehicle, Dirk Benjamin.
Benjamin alleged that he was hired to take Roberts to the location and claimed he heard gunshots before he (Roberts) returned to the car.
Benjamin, who also claimed that Roberts returned to his car with a gun in his hand, left the country shortly after he was released from custody upon giving the statement implicating Roberts.
While Justice Gonzales stated that she did not believe Roberts’ alibi, she noted that she could not be sure beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty of the crime based on Benjamin’s untested allegations in the statement.
“It (the statement) contained inconsistencies that could not be explained by the other evidence in the case,” she said.
Referring to discrepancies with Benjamin’s statement, Justice Gonzales noted that he had a motive to lie about Roberts’ purported involvement.
“Benjamin was accomplice. He had reason to minimise his role and make another person culpable,” she said.
Roberts, a devout Muslim, admitted that the outcome of the case, on the eve of Eid-ul-Fitr celebrations today, was a welcome gift.
“All praises to Allah,” he said, as he thanked his lawyers Larry Williams and Shaun Morris.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/man-fre ... 7a7cda59d5
Habit7 wrote:Kamla: UNC will bring home invasion laws to protect your family
Loop News May 7, 2024 11:42 AM ET
Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar has reiterated that the United National Congress (UNC) continues to support the ‘stand your ground’ law.
Speaking at the UNC’s Monday night report in Talparo last evening, Persad-Bissessar noted that while the crime situation continues to worsen on a daily basis, law-abiding citizens continue to be limited in the ways they’re allowed to protect themselves.
She said however that a UNC government will ensure that appropriate laws would be created to enable citizens to protect themselves.
“We will bring stand-your-ground laws with home invasion laws, make it easier for law abiding citizens to get access to legal firearms. I fully support the right to bear legal firearms for law abiding citizens so that you can protect your families,” she said.
The opposition leader also took the opportunity to criticise the government's proposed amendments to the Firearms Act. Holding a copy of the document in her hand, she said while the government is allegedly doing consultations on the matter, the average citizen is being left in the dark.
“So they want to create safe spaces. This government wants to make it harder for you to get legal firearms and they want to take away those who already have legal firearms, but as I said we will fight them… they are doing everything they can to help criminals attack you,” she claimed.
She claimed further that the government will also be recommending gun-free zones in areas such as courts, schools, universities, places of worship and banks.
“This is just one list but the minister might just keep adding to it, and the minister might say the next place is in front of your house…you can’t have a gun in your own house to protect your family,” she said.
Persad-Bissessar said a homeowner should therefore have the right to defend his property.
She further issued a call for all men, including husbands and fathers to stand their ground and protect their families if and when the need arises.
“You stand your ground. They must give you the law to protect your families in your own home, legally you must protect your families. Your duty first as a father and a husband is to protect your wife and your children…and we will give you the power, we will give you the tools for you to do that,” Persad-Bissessar said.
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/kamla-u ... our-family
Habit7 wrote:So legislation can help to deter crime but only the ones UNC proposes?
alfa wrote:Habit7 wrote:So legislation can help to deter crime but only the ones UNC proposes?
No, but any leglislation to put bullet in bandit MC I'm all for it unlike Rowley who said it's not his gov't aim to arm citizens. Watch the vid pug posted and you kept ducking a while now
When a bandit breaks into your house you try and explain to him that it's really Kamla's non support of bills that empowers him to banditing and broken windows. I prefer to use actual tools at my disposal if a govt allows
PNM have the state resources at will but sit back and blame Kamala for their PNM crime problem.Habit7 wrote:alfa wrote:Habit7 wrote:So legislation can help to deter crime but only the ones UNC proposes?
No, but any leglislation to put bullet in bandit MC I'm all for it unlike Rowley who said it's not his gov't aim to arm citizens. Watch the vid pug posted and you kept ducking a while now
When a bandit breaks into your house you try and explain to him that it's really Kamla's non support of bills that empowers him to banditing and broken windows. I prefer to use actual tools at my disposal if a govt allows
You are contradicting yourself again. You can’t say that legislation wont help, but then support Stand Your Ground and more liberal FULs which can only come about by new legislation.
UNC’s solution is reactionary and PNM is preventative. UNC wants you to stand your ground but Khadija Ameen was condemning the TTPS for standing their ground against the kidnappers last week. And when pistols are more legally available, bandits will ensure that they are coming more armed with the automatic rifles they illegally possess. The hope is that your one pistol will make you stand a chance with multiple rifles.
All while the PNM’s solution is legislation to disrupt gang membership, 120days no bail for illegal gun possession, seizure of assets from criminal gains, tapping their phones, utilising CCTV in evidence and protecting witness statements. But what is clearly evident is that you all agree with new legislation just your political bias makes you oppose anything PNM does and blindly support UNC. And the proof of your blind support is the inconsistency and contradictions that easily pop up.
So the UNC will continue their parliamentary strategy of opposing good legislation, it gains them no new supporters if not makes them more odious to the electorate. While their supporters lament the crime situation, demand more to be done but support their party in opposing the more that is done.
Habit7 wrote:alfa wrote:Habit7 wrote:So legislation can help to deter crime but only the ones UNC proposes?
No, but any leglislation to put bullet in bandit MC I'm all for it unlike Rowley who said it's not his gov't aim to arm citizens. Watch the vid pug posted and you kept ducking a while now
When a bandit breaks into your house you try and explain to him that it's really Kamla's non support of bills that empowers him to banditing and broken windows. I prefer to use actual tools at my disposal if a govt allows
You are contradicting yourself again. You can’t say that legislation wont help, but then support Stand Your Ground and more liberal FULs which can only come about by new legislation.
UNC’s solution is reactionary and PNM is preventative. UNC wants you to stand your ground but Khadija Ameen was condemning the TTPS for standing their ground against the kidnappers last week. And when pistols are more legally available, bandits will ensure that they are coming more armed with the automatic rifles they illegally possess. The hope is that your one pistol will make you stand a chance with multiple rifles.
All while the PNM’s solution is legislation to disrupt gang membership, 120days no bail for illegal gun possession, seizure of assets from criminal gains, tapping their phones, utilising CCTV in evidence and protecting witness statements. But what is clearly evident is that you all agree with new legislation just your political bias makes you oppose anything PNM does and blindly support UNC. And the proof of your blind support is the inconsistency and contradictions that easily pop up.
So the UNC will continue their parliamentary strategy of opposing good legislation, it gains them no new supporters if not makes them more odious to the electorate. While their supporters lament the crime situation, demand more to be done but support their party in opposing the more that is done.
Habit7 does cause a trini fool is born every day in the PNM camppugboy wrote:pnm still using the excuse that crime was down because of covid?
alfa wrote:I am convinced you are an illiterate but probably using chat gpt or whatever. I said you don't need legislation to arrest or kill bandits and that arrest and preferably kill is the immediate solution.
You do however need new legislation for the common man to own a firearm. I stated the statue already which says the COP has full discretion who to grant FULs to without any standard criteria other than who they feel to give to. And given that Erla is a PNM puppet and Rowley said no FULs for the common man you do the math. As to bandits with rifles and me with a pistol, if you had read the firearms act you'll know there's no restrictions on civilians owning rifles. I know a doctor personally with a legal AR-15.
And for the record I ain't voting this rounds cuz it's a PNM win so don't class me as a UNC diehard.
The Prime Minister said the strongest defence of the criminal was “Mr Delay”.
He said the country needed to get serious in addressing this issue because in countries where they have eliminated delays and brought people to court, dispensed with them and removed them from society, these countries were able to bring down crime.
“We are seeming to go in the opposite direction,” he said. “When I grew up, we were no more barbarous than we are now, and when I grew up if you were charged for murder you had no bail to get, and I never knew about anybody killing any witness. But in this environment, we are now talking about English conditions where you get bail for murder and you come out and you have a gun again. What de hell did you expect?”
Habit7 wrote:
Well, anti gang legislation allows police to arrest organised bandits. Also police cannot kill bandits because that will violate existing legislation wrt murder. Police can respond to deadly force or the threat of deadly force but killing bandits will be extra judicial murder.
There is nothing to indicate that Erla is the puppet of anyone, you are just parroting the rhetoric of the UNC who voted for here just like PNM. But you are distancing yourself from the UNC just like they are distancing themselves from her.
I specifically said “automatic rifles”. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle.
There is standard criteria for a FUL according to Section 17 of the Firearms Act.
But then again, I’m illiterate.
aaron17 wrote:So let me get this straight ...what we appoint you for? If you saying this.... why you don't fix it?The Prime Minister said the strongest defence of the criminal was “Mr Delay”.
He said the country needed to get serious in addressing this issue because in countries where they have eliminated delays and brought people to court, dispensed with them and removed them from society, these countries were able to bring down crime.
“We are seeming to go in the opposite direction,” he said. “When I grew up, we were no more barbarous than we are now, and when I grew up if you were charged for murder you had no bail to get, and I never knew about anybody killing any witness. But in this environment, we are now talking about English conditions where you get bail for murder and you come out and you have a gun again. What de hell did you expect?”
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/judicial-delays-helping-criminals/article_e9658b58-1a3a-11ef-97d5-b7c364522183.html
Lutchmedial: Privy Council ruling vindicates Opposition non-support of Bail Bill
20220729
Gail Alexander
The UNC’s position on bail was correct, according to Senator Jayanti Lutchmedial, who said yesterday’s Privy Council ruling against the state vindicated the party’s recent non-support of the Bail (Amendment) Bill 2022.
Lutchmedial spoke following the Privy Council’s dismissal of the State’s appeal on the Akili Charles matter.
Lutchmedial said the judgement confirmed the local Court of Appeal’s February ruling on Charles’ matter, that the automatic denial of bail isn’t reasonably justifiable in a society that has a proper respect for the rights and freedom of the individual.
Lutchmedial said, “The judgment is a significant development in the law of human rights and how the state must balance the objectives of a law against the fights and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution.
“The fact is that now, a person accused of a crime, will have the ability to approach the court to request bail and the prosecution will have the opportunity to argue against it based on facts and circumstances, not some sweeping dictate handed down by Parliament. This is a victory for democracy and the rule of law.”
She added, “Instead of accepting the Court of Appeal’s decision delivered by the Honourable Chief Justice in the Charles matter and refocusing their crime-fighting efforts, the Rowley-led Government wasted resources to lose another matter in the Privy Council.”
Lutchmedial said the ruling vindicated the Opposition’s stance against the recent Bail (Amendment) Bill 2022, which attempted to extend the life of a provision which placed restrictions on right to apply for bail.
She said the Opposition was “fully aware and cognizant of the implications” the Charles decision has on the evolving local jurisprudence and urged the Government to focus on crime-fighting methods.
But she claimed Government’s focus was on pre-trial detention of persons who ought to enjoy the presumption of innocence.
Lutchmedial accused Government of “using the Charles” case to attack Opposition “members past and present” for representing Charles.
She criticised the past attorney general and accused the National Security Minister of using the office of Police Commissioner to build support for the bill and “exert pressure on the Opposition to support” it.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/lutchme ... 69750a239d
adnj wrote:Habit7 wrote:
Well, anti gang legislation allows police to arrest organised bandits. Also police cannot kill bandits because that will violate existing legislation wrt murder. Police can respond to deadly force or the threat of deadly force but killing banditsu will be extra judicial murder.
There is nothing to indicate that Erla is the puppet of anyone, you are just parroting the rhetoric of the UNC who voted for here just like PNM. But you are distancing yourself from the UNC just like they are distancing themselves from her.
I specifically said “automatic rifles”. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle.
There is standard criteria for a FUL according to Section 17 of the Firearms Act.
But then again, I’m illiterate.
The AR-15 was the predecessor of the M-16, used by the US military. Both are select-fire, automatic rifles.
You must have probably meant the widely available AR-15 style rifle. Those are typically semiautomatic, but they are also available as select-fire, fully automatic rifles.
TTPS: Only trained people can get licence for semi-automatic rifles
DARREN BAHAW SUNDAY 15 AUGUST 2021
Only qualified individuals who are already experienced firearm holders and are active participants in target sport shooting are eligible for applying for consideration to be granted a licence to buy a semi-automatic rifle, according to the police service.
A statement issued on Saturday sought to justify the Commissioner of Police's (CoP) granting of licences to civilians to use rifles carrying 5.56 or 7.62 ammunition, normally used by the military and tactical unit of the police, for sport target shooting.
It said as part of the application process a letter and or recommendation from a recognised outdoor shooting range must accompany the variation form for which the Commissioner of Police has the authority to approve once satisfied of the intent of use.
Under the three-year tenure of CoP Gary Griffith, over 100 licences have been granted to civilians to purchase semi-automatic rifles and there has been an increase in the number of approved gun dealers and shooting ranges across the country.
According to the statement only authorised firearm dealers have been granted permission to import firearms of rifle calibre for supply to qualified and approved individuals for the purpose of participation on target sport shooting events. Dealers are only granted permission to import 5.56/7.62 rifles in the semi-automatic configuration direct from the manufacturers as stipulated by the firearms Act Chapter 16:01. The Firearms Act prohibits civilians from owning an "automatic firearm" – any firearm so designed or adapted that if pressure is applied to the trigger missiles continue to be discharged until pressure is removed from the trigger or until the magazine containing the missiles is empty.
Under the provisions of the act a "prohibited weapon" can be interpreted to be an "automatic firearm" which is considered a restricted item in the hands of a civilian, the statement said.
"Semi-automatic firearms although having an identical appearance to the fully automatic versions are not functionally the same in terms of the rate of fire and intention of application and use. A semi-automatic firearm is primarily designed for civilian use whilst a fully automatic version which is designed and manufactured for military application. At a glance, a semi-automatic rifle may appear to any lay citizen to be an automatic weapon in a general sense as they share the same aesthetic form and components," it said.
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/15/ttps-o ... ic-rifles/
