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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
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43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Postby Redman » January 22nd, 2022, 6:05 pm

PariaMan wrote:We have the science right now to quickly develop vaccines

You know what the dim witted among us doing?

They are saying something is wrong because the vaccine was created too quickly and therefore labelling it experimental

To be honest if a movie was done before this pandemic about more than 50% of people unwilling to take a vaccine that is saving lives I would have said unbelievable


Only bright people look for salvation in a syringe.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:05 pm

matr1x wrote:
PariaMan wrote:That is all good to debate

But when you entering the hospital very sick the only thing that will matter is your vaccination status and the health-care you are about to receive
matr1x wrote:The vaccines are now the basis of discrimination. Good job democrats. You are the idiots of the 21st century


Vaccinated and non dying the same. What's your point?
Wrong. But keep saying it.

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 6:06 pm

Its all about reduction of risks

All medicines we take especially preventative ones like statins for Cholesterol reduces the risk of developing diseases

Similarly you take the vaccine to reduce the risk of dying or ending up in the hospital

I am glad you have intelligent close family relatives
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Dizzy28 wrote:Don't be fooled though. I am very much pro vaccines.

I am not however bereft of free thought on the matter. And at this time the draconian ideas some tuners have do not sit right with me.
hover11 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Public healthcare is still free to smokers and drinkers though
st7 wrote:if you smoke and drink, insurance premiums are high.

should be the same for covid unvaxxed
Lmao let the jackarse bray na


Agreed, this vaccine not making them immortal but yet they getting on so, what if the day reach and immortality is achievable, that's the day when humanity will die. I for one wouldn't like to currently live in a world in which our children currently inhabit because technology is being used for the detriment of society. I wish we can somehow regain the trust of authority.
Whilst I still have freedom to choose, I will, and my choice is to remain unvaccinated because in every experiments there must be a control, my entire family is vaccinated and I absolutely have no problems with that, it should be something to consider on a case by case basis.
I also recently recovered from covid as my s/o had tested +ve recently and I had more mild symptoms than her.
Just had diarrhea, chills, cold sweats etc.
Fully recovered and why should I take a vaccine that still allows for transmission?
Time to go back to the drawing board.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:06 pm

hover11 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Don't be fooled though. I am very much pro vaccines.

I am not however bereft of free thought on the matter. And at this time the draconian ideas some tuners have do not sit right with me.
hover11 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Public healthcare is still free to smokers and drinkers though
st7 wrote:if you smoke and drink, insurance premiums are high.

should be the same for covid unvaxxed
Lmao let the jackarse bray na
Freedom of choice is the matter at hand , men on here like they were part of Chavez, Castro or Hitler regimes.They taking convenient parts of their communist ideologies but don't want to apply the entire concept
Public health issue.

The good of the many. Learn your Star Trek.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:07 pm

hover11 wrote:
PariaMan wrote:Letting stupid people die simply because they are stupid.

That does not sit right with me

A society is judged by how they treat the weakest

Right now the feeble minded are the weakest among us

They seem incapable of making a simple decision that is likely to save their lives.
A society is judged by how they treat the weakest....going by your words eh....so why we have so much homeless ppl in our country , nobody helping them and everybody going about their business scorning them especially in POS. Save the self righteous BS trinis were never compassionate, everybody does be for themselves and look our for numero uno. Let the who dead dead continue
The weakest were given vaccines first.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:08 pm

hover11 wrote:Good on boris anything for political survival ...happy ppl means more votes in his direction
Anything for voter survival.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:09 pm

hover11 wrote:How does that have any equivalence to not choosing to inject yourself with an experimental vaccine ?
It stopped being experimental after the first billion doses.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 22nd, 2022, 6:09 pm

paid_influencer wrote:weed protects from d covid prove me wrong


somebody prove me wrong plz

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:12 pm

Carbon12 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Don't be fooled though. I am very much pro vaccines.

I am not however bereft of free thought on the matter. And at this time the draconian ideas some tuners have do not sit right with me.
hover11 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Public healthcare is still free to smokers and drinkers though
st7 wrote:if you smoke and drink, insurance premiums are high.

should be the same for covid unvaxxed
Lmao let the jackarse bray na


Agreed, this vaccine not making them immortal but yet they getting on so, what if the day reach and immortality is achievable, that's the day when humanity will die. I for one wouldn't like to currently live in a world in which our children currently inhabit because technology is being used for the detriment of society. I wish we can somehow regain the trust of authority.
Whilst I still have freedom to choose, I will, and my choice is to remain unvaccinated because in every experiments there must be a control, my entire family is vaccinated and I absolutely have no problems with that, it should be something to consider on a case by case basis.
I also recently recovered from covid as my s/o had tested +ve recently and I had more mild symptoms than her.
Just had diarrhea, chills, cold sweats etc.
Fully recovered and why should I take a vaccine that still allows for transmission?
Time to go back to the drawing board.
When you were infected, you spread COVID faster than if you were vaccinated.

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 6:14 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:weed protects from d covid prove me wrong


somebody prove me wrong plz
That's not how science work pal

You have to prove that something works

That why we have so much people overdosing on invermectin

If scientists were to spend their time proving things do not work we would still be in the Flintstones era

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Postby paid_influencer » January 22nd, 2022, 6:15 pm

PariaMan wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:weed protects from d covid prove me wrong


somebody prove me wrong plz
That's not how science work pal

You have to prove that something works

That why we have so much people overdosing on invermectin

If scientists were to spend their time proving things do not work we would still be in the Flintstones era


it is a null hypothesis tho

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:22 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:weed protects from d covid prove me wrong


somebody prove me wrong plz
You don't read enough.

Cannabis and COVID: Key differences between CBD, CBDA and CBGA

New study finds cannabis compounds block coronavirus proteins

What about smoking marijuana?

At this point, it doesn’t appear that just smoking marijuana, even a heavy CBD strain, will produce the effects reported in this study. We don’t have enough information to suggest it.

CBDA or CBGA products, like oils, offering these in their raw form, do not work the same in marijuana products, which usually include high levels of THC, the psychoactive compound that makes you high.


https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/2 ... -and-cbga/

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 6:24 pm

Then we will have to prove every herb every medicine does not work against covid

Best we focus on finding a vaccine as quickly as possible

Guess what we created quite a few that have very high efficacy rates

Lets use those for now and support the scientists in their quest to create even better vaccines

The logical amongst can all agree that after billions of doses safety has never really been an issue

The vaccines are being modified to match the variants we are blessed by the almighty to have such brilliant scientists.
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Postby paid_influencer » January 22nd, 2022, 6:26 pm

adnj, have I been proven wrong? have you won again?!

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Postby timelapse » January 22nd, 2022, 6:37 pm

paid_influencer wrote:adnj, have I been proven wrong? have you won again?!
Based on this,I should be very safe

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 6:45 pm

Banter is nice

But we have too remember lots of unvaccinated people died unnecessarily

Also alot of the information they used to come to their decision not to vaccinate was based on social media
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Phone Surgeon wrote:Tell meh something
Hover is probably our strongest antivaxxer on tuner.

How balanced you think he is? Is he someone you should follow and listen to? You find he does talk as if he has his head on and knows what he doing?
He does sound like a overall smart or reasonable person who wouldn't get chain up and bamboozled?


Hover is an obvious troll, I am glad he is there to make his opinion because that's what it is his opinion, we are not on a medical board to come up with the next covid vaccine, there is a reason why we are on an old talk forum. Unhealthy fat man wanna talk about saving peoples lives, save yours first, do some exercise. We here for the banter.

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Postby adnj » January 22nd, 2022, 6:50 pm

paid_influencer wrote:adnj, have I been proven wrong? have you won again?!
I have indicated that you simply made an unsubstantiated claim.

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Postby meccalli » January 22nd, 2022, 6:52 pm

Can't wait till the taxes roll in also for ownership of vehicles, eating meat, having children and existing. Perhaps we can start harvesting organs from all the religious dolt's who didn't get vaxxed and died, like the ccp and prisoners of conscience. We can give em to the long covid patients of our new master race who deserve to live.
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Postby Dohplaydat » January 22nd, 2022, 6:53 pm

Funeral today for a 45 year old grande school teacher who died from Covid last week.

Family apparently has been saying she wanted to the vaccine badly but her doctor advised her not to get it as he told them he had a Covid treatment that was almost guaranteed to work.

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 6:58 pm

Another unnecessary death

Yes we all have to die

But because of modern medicines things that would have killed us easily no longer threatens our lives

If we have vaccines that are proven safe and helps keep us out of our broken health system we must take it

Its really that simple
Dohplaydat wrote:Funeral today for a 45 year old grande school teacher who died from Covid last week.

Family apparently has been saying she wanted to the vaccine badly but her doctor advised her not to get it as he told them he had a Covid treatment that was almost guaranteed to work.

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Postby daring dragoon » January 22nd, 2022, 6:58 pm

PariaMan wrote:Banter is nice

But we have too remember lots of unvaccinated people died unnecessarily

Also alot of the information they used to come to their decision not to vaccinate was based on social media
Carbon12 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Tell meh something
Hover is probably our strongest antivaxxer on tuner.

How balanced you think he is? Is he someone you should follow and listen to? You find he does talk as if he has his head on and knows what he doing?
He does sound like a overall smart or reasonable person who wouldn't get chain up and bamboozled?


Hover is an obvious troll, I am glad he is there to make his opinion because that's what it is his opinion, we are not on a medical board to come up with the next covid vaccine, there is a reason why we are on an old talk forum. Unhealthy fat man wanna talk about saving peoples lives, save yours first, do some exercise. We here for the banter.



I dont think the un vaxxed dying because of they didnt take the vaccine. I think they getting covid because they relaxed the protocol of the 3W's plus basic hygine. You see people go in the grocery buy a drink or snack an walk out after touching money to pay,touching the door , pulling down mask an consuming snack with dirty hands.i am sure most dont wash or sanitize all items such as bottles an packagin etc before handling the contents. They buy doubles an the man taking the money touch the wrapped doubles to put in bag and they open said doubles lick fingers all with same hand that touch outside of the paper
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It is what they accustomed to their whole life.

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Postby hover11 » January 22nd, 2022, 7:01 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:Tell meh something
Hover is probably our strongest antivaxxer on tuner.

How balanced you think he is? Is he someone you should follow and listen to? You find he does talk as if he has his head on and knows what he doing?
He does sound like a overall smart or reasonable person who wouldn't get chain up and bamboozled?
So you want ppl to listen to you, because you say take a vaccine. The point you not getting is that everybody capable of making their own decisions , everybody is their own person, they don't need to listen to anyone. That's what free will is. You just sounding like you belong in CHINA or NORTH KOREA, you might like being told how to live your life there. Covid would be a non issue there so no worries

Because you survived covid in your fat state with comorbidities doesn't mean fit and healthy don't stand ANY chance without it. We don't need a testimonial bro. Ok you survived covid we got it but btching everyday and telling ppl to take sum that they don't want to, isn't a good look. That's ppl choice.
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Postby pugboy » January 22nd, 2022, 7:05 pm

i see watson duke take jab now
man change he tune and say he have loved ones who ded

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Postby hover11 » January 22nd, 2022, 7:07 pm

What's you're point he wasn't forced though and isn't that how ALL politicians are they say one thing and do the complete opposite when they gain power

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Postby Chimera » January 22nd, 2022, 7:14 pm

Hover boy only today I was cleaning up my inbox and realize you are the same hover was crying in my inbox a few months ago. Didn't realize it.was the same.person who does play the big bad man now

Will post it up later..kix will follow.

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Postby Carbon12 » January 22nd, 2022, 7:16 pm

PariaMan wrote:Banter is nice

But we have too remember lots of unvaccinated people died unnecessarily

Also alot of the information they used to come to their decision not to vaccinate was based on social media
Carbon12 wrote:
Phone Surgeon wrote:Tell meh something
Hover is probably our strongest antivaxxer on tuner.

How balanced you think he is? Is he someone you should follow and listen to? You find he does talk as if he has his head on and knows what he doing?
He does sound like a overall smart or reasonable person who wouldn't get chain up and bamboozled?


Hover is an obvious troll, I am glad he is there to make his opinion because that's what it is his opinion, we are not on a medical board to come up with the next covid vaccine, there is a reason why we are on an old talk forum. Unhealthy fat man wanna talk about saving peoples lives, save yours first, do some exercise. We here for the banter.


Natural selection at its best. You wanna save everyone's lives pariaman? How sweet. Everyone is entitled to make their own informed choice which they deem fit. Vaccines should be given to those who need it/want it. Not to all. WHOEVER else dead dead, myself included.

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Postby Carbon12 » January 22nd, 2022, 7:18 pm

meccalli wrote:Can't wait till the taxes roll in also for ownership of vehicles, eating meat, having children and existing. Perhaps we can start harvesting organs from all the religious dolt's who didn't get vaxxed and died, like the ccp and prisoners of conscience. We can give em to the long covid patients of our new master race who deserve to live.
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Humans, a dying breed.

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Postby PariaMan » January 22nd, 2022, 7:20 pm

Not when that decision affects society

We could be wide open with one or 2 deaths if everyone was vaccinated

Free choice is good if the unvaccinated were not clogging up the health system causing unnecessary deaths from other issues

Yes you are free to not take the vaccine but if you do get covid stay home and treat yourself

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Postby hover11 » January 22nd, 2022, 7:30 pm

PariaMan wrote:Not when that decision affects society

We could be wide open with one or 2 deaths if everyone was vaccinated

Free choice is good if the unvaccinated were not clogging up the health system causing unnecessary deaths from other issues

Yes you are free to not take the vaccine but if you do get covid stay home and treat yourself
You cannot tell me if I choose not vaccinate that I cannot go to the hospital if covid affects me. If we had a system like the US health care I would say yes but with the system that we have where EVERY single person even foreigners are ENTITLED to free health care , you cannot say persons with covid just have to stay home. You fast and out of place with that

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Postby Chimera » January 22nd, 2022, 7:33 pm

For the past two years foreigners have not being given free health care at public hospitals.

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