2012/13 Budget - 44% increase in Premium gasoline

[Les Bain]

Can somebody confirm for me the recommended fuel for a HR15DE engine, please?

[shaneelal]

Noticed people speeding this morning driving > 110km/hr while I was cruising at a constant 90km/hr. Don't think the fuel price affects them, it could go to $10/liter and they'd still not change their driving habits.

[White CZ4A]

gas hike no big deal?

my range now going to take approx $450.00 to fill up.
really unfair that they only raised premium.

[Greypatch]

why is it unfair ?

[pioneer]

So they want to reduce fiscal deficit yet they spending money like is nothing an purchasing uneccessary crap via their ministries.

Yeah, ok.

Ask the acct's department what really went on, they will give you the run down.

They usually try to blow out all the $$$ allocated to them for the fiscal year before budget. They usually buy all what they need and reason why you now seeing it being 'bought' is because it now arriving, it was all paid for before the budget.

Yeh I think we all learn this in basic economics class, however I'm not speaking about that.

[Dizzy28]

why is it unfair ?

Because they haven't addressed the issue of those who can clearly pay the unsubsidized price for diesel (all Prados, Hiluxes, Navaras etc.) paying $1.50/litre for private use.

[Bareback]

Howai said in the coming months Super and Diesel would be revised.

Sends donkey cart to the upolsterer to make the highway trip ah lil more comfortable!!!!

[Computerman]

Noticed people speeding this morning driving > 110km/hr while I was cruising at a constant 90km/hr. Don't think the fuel price affects them, it could go to $10/liter and they'd still not change their driving habits.

My 323 gets maximum economy @ 100Kmph. My Rio gets maximum economy @ 80Kmph.

[nervewrecker]

So they want to reduce fiscal deficit yet they spending money like is nothing an purchasing uneccessary crap via their ministries.

Yeah, ok.

Ask the acct's department what really went on, they will give you the run down.

They usually try to blow out all the $$$ allocated to them for the fiscal year before budget. They usually buy all what they need and reason why you now seeing it being 'bought' is because it now arriving, it was all paid for before the budget.

Yeh I think we all learn this in basic economics class, however I'm not speaking about that.

Well when I talk about saving paper and being more efficient, ent they say stick to paper and ask me if is my $$$ buying supplies?
The gubment $$$ is who money spending?

[Greypatch]

the fuel adjustment is on a phased basis... super and diesel will be addressed in the future it seems.

[firstchoicett]

le future

This real dread ..... We need this soon too.

[TRAE]

Why would massey market a car for the people... the Tiida... as an almera replacement..... when it clearly needs premium?

i know nuff Tiida out there using super

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

I not buying no damn electric vehicle. I not buying no damn cng conversion kit. I not buying no damn cng vehicle either.

[nervewrecker]

How this affecting vehicle prices though?

I see men doen selling off vehicles that require premium unleaded cheap.

Does this mean owners of cars that require super unleaded gonna increase prices?

[pioneer]

How this affecting vehicle prices though?

I see men doen selling off vehicles that require premium unleaded cheap.

Does this mean owners of cars that require super unleaded gonna increase prices?

Did you just answer your own question?

[nervewrecker]

I just making sure I on the right track here.

[Stephon.]

Lol TRAE the ignorance.

A lot of vehicles demand that you use premium in the vehicles, its written in the manual you get with the car, the sales rep make sure to tell you what gas to use in the vehicle, the bill you get with the vehicle also says what type of gas to use, then even if you "ignored" all of those messages given to you even before you get the car on a good run, it also says what type of gas to use on the tank lid. Not to mention (even though I don't believe that there is a way to tell) if you use anything other than what they tell you to use in the car gas wise and you have a problem down the line, the warrenty won't cover it.

So its not that people WANT to use premium just to say that they using premium, people use premium because its the right gas to use for their particular car and would like to maintain it properly.

That sad though, I got a friend with a corolla 2009 model and he uses super in his vehicle because he said it lasts longer than premium, even though he have been told multiple times by the company to use premium.

[TRAE]

Lol TRAE the ignorance.

A lot of vehicles demand that you use premium in the vehicles, its written in the manual you get with the car, the sales rep make sure to tell you what gas to use in the vehicle, the bill you get with the vehicle also says what type of gas to use, then even if you "ignored" all of those messages given to you even before you get the car on a good run, it also says what type of gas to use on the tank lid. Not to mention (even though I don't believe that there is a way to tell) if you use anything other than what they tell you to use in the car gas wise and you have a problem down the line, the warrenty won't cover it.

So its not that people WANT to use premium just to say that they using premium, people use premium because its the right gas to use for their particular car and would like to maintain it properly.

That sad though, I got a friend with a corolla 2009 model and he uses super in his vehicle because he said it lasts longer than premium, even though he have been told multiple times by the company to use premium.

i say fuel treatment every month, but yuh right no contest there

[[X]~Outlaw]

Lol TRAE the ignorance.

A lot of vehicles demand that you use premium in the vehicles, its written in the manual you get with the car, the sales rep make sure to tell you what gas to use in the vehicle, the bill you get with the vehicle also says what type of gas to use, then even if you "ignored" all of those messages given to you even before you get the car on a good run, it also says what type of gas to use on the tank lid. Not to mention (even though I don't believe that there is a way to tell) if you use anything other than what they tell you to use in the car gas wise and you have a problem down the line, the warrenty won't cover it.

So its not that people WANT to use premium just to say that they using premium, people use premium because its the right gas to use for their particular car and would like to maintain it properly.

I agree with this!

[nervewrecker]

Lol TRAE the ignorance.

A lot of vehicles demand that you use premium in the vehicles, its written in the manual you get with the car, the sales rep make sure to tell you what gas to use in the vehicle, the bill you get with the vehicle also says what type of gas to use, then even if you "ignored" all of those messages given to you even before you get the car on a good run, it also says what type of gas to use on the tank lid. Not to mention (even though I don't believe that there is a way to tell) if you use anything other than what they tell you to use in the car gas wise and you have a problem down the line, the warrenty won't cover it.

So its not that people WANT to use premium just to say that they using premium, people use premium because its the right gas to use for their particular car and would like to maintain it properly.
That sad though, I got a friend with a corolla 2009 model and he uses super in his vehicle because he said it lasts longer than premium, even though he have been told multiple times by the company to use premium.

Ok, but what about the guys with the 20" chrome rims on their ad wagons and almeras that putting premium because 'it makes the car go faster / run normal' or 'their ride premium now'?

And what about those who suffer from false class consciousness and bought vehicles that require premium and now because 'gyas price too high' they start to run super unleaded.
I feel its these fellows the gubment targeted so when they fcuk up their engines they will have to spend $$$ to fix / maintain it. By the time they increase super these people already running super normel and super people have nothing to switch to.
Who will thses people take their vehicles by to fix? Not the stealership? Who funds the gubment during eleckshions? They hadda eat a food too.

[turboconch2]

Can somebody confirm for me the recommended fuel for a HR15DE engine, please?

Super from manual,90/91

[Les Bain]

Can somebody confirm for me the recommended fuel for a HR15DE engine, please?

Super from manual,90/91

Thanks!
Just to clarify it for a stupidhead: what about automatic?

[Conrad]

an excerpt taken from the Ernst & Young Budget review regarding the fuel subsidy:

Fuel Subsidy
The Minister proposes to reduce the subsidy on premium gasoline, thereby increasing the current market price per litre from $4.00 to $5.75, an increase of 43.75%, effective 2 October 2012. The reduction is aimed at improving T&T’s fiscal deficit which has been estimated at $7.7 billion for the 2013 financial year, as well as addressing the inefficient allocation of resources.

While the subsidy will affect vehicles that require premium gasoline, the extent to which public transportation will be affected is uncertain.

At present, the annual cost of the fuel subsidy is in excess of $4 billion. While the initial purpose of the fuel subsidy was to allow commuters and commercial transportation vehicles the benefit of cheap fuel, it was not intended to be permanent. Numerous calls have been made from stakeholders for the elimination of the fuel subsidy gradually, however, no action has been taken to address same until now.

Diesel, utilized mainly by public and commercial transportation vehicles, accounts for the majority share of the nation’s fuel subsidy. The current market price of diesel in T&T is $1.50 per litre and the impact of the diesel subsidy can only be recognized when local diesel prices are compared with international prices which average $6.00 to $7.00. Furthermore, the continued support for low diesel prices is difficult to justify from an environmental perspective. Perhaps a phased approach will be adopted to address the reduction of the diesel subsidy as the shift to the use of CNG by the public transportation sector manifests itself. The Minister has announced that additional measures aimed at further reducing the current subsidy will be reviewed by an interMinisterial team and it is expected that such measures will take effect during 2013.

In addition to reduction of the subsidy, a framework geared towards promoting a full transition to CNG is currently being implemented. Whether the reduction of the subsidy prompts both consumers and the State to increase investment geared towards conversion to CNG remains to be seen.

Notwithstanding the above, the decision by the Government to commence reducing the fuel subsidy is an acknowledgement that the country can no longer continue running a fiscal deficit, especially in times of marginal economic growth.

Seems like a token gesture meant to satisfy PR. They haven't really gone after the real subsidy/transfer payment as yet as Premium accounts for only 6% of the fuel subsidy according to the Govn't.

With their popularity at a new low after the Section34 debacle maybe increasing super and diesel would have been tantamount to hara kiri.

Drop in a bucket felt by a select "few".

How much is being spent to implement the infrastructure for a dying alternative fuel again?

[Conrad]

Import Duty on all Tyres
Import duties levied on goods are based on the cost,
insurance and freight (CIF) value and rates determined
by the CARICOM Common External Tariff (CET). There is
currently an inconsistency in the import duties in respect
of new and used tyres whereby new tyres are subject to
the 30% import duty and used tyres are imported duty
free. To rectify same, the Minister has indicated that a
proposal will be submitted to the CARICOM Council for
Trade and Economic Development (COTED) in respect of
the implementation of a 30% import duty on used tyres.
This proposed measure is intended to reduce the pricing
disparity between new and used tyres which would
encourage competitiveness in the local market

[/quote]

Which gubberment minister own/has shares in a local tyre distribution line?

[Soundwave]

Can somebody confirm for me the recommended fuel for a HR15DE engine, please?

Super from manual,90/91

Thanks!
Just to clarify it for a stupidhead: what about automatic?

you should really get that name change now...

[Les Bain]

Better to look dotish getting a question answered than to nod intelligently and lie that you got it.

[Rooki3]

never have I been more grateful for super + water meth

pepper your angus for 2013, phaggot

[ingalook]

1.8T Turbo Audi A4s (VWs also) can run super

Most european cars should easily switch to premium, in Europe high gas prices mean that these cars would never sell if they HAD to use premum.

Us men whow play up with our engines can modify our engines or management to run super as well - loss of power may occur of course.

The people hardest hit will be men who have new corollas, and other "cheap" cars that have new fuel efficient engines that must use primum (as that is the trend)

BUT - my problem is not that people are going to be negatively affected, my problem is that this is not going to do much to the gas subsidy... Kamla noted that only 6% of the population currently use premium... I be you by this time next year that figure will be less that 2% as people switch when they realise premium is more than twice the price of super.

All the government has done here is piss off a few rich people, increased the price of transport and seriously hurt some middle class people... all for a negligible reduction in the fuel subsidy... who wins here?

[1UZFE]

^^^^still cant get over Ingalook from Pakaskas... Didnt u guys eat out allyuh planet???

[ingalook]

Pakaskas lives on with me... I will always be from Pakaskas though my planet is no more