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BC Pires - YOU KNOW your week’s not going to end well when, on Monday, Africans and Indians in Trinidad & Tobago are furiously spitting accusations of racism at one another and, on Tuesday, a white American, Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden, chooses a dougla woman, Kamala Harris, as his vice-presidential nominee.
The irony becomes steely when you consider that this is place that coined the word, “dougla” to describe the child born of an African and an Indian person making love to one another!
You think, well, what’s the firetrucking point of being Trinbagonian any more? Look, you best tell David Rudder to firetruck away with the Ganges & the Nile, yes.
The great Lloyd Best, who was right about more or less everything while he was alive (and was more or less ignored by policymakers for the same period), recognised race was a legitimate basis for political organisation in newly-Independent Trinidad &Tobago.
Our problem is that, in near 60 years of Independence, we never laid anything more upon that foundation: our whole political building, every block, every trowel-full of mortar, every lintel, the ring beam and the roof, all is race.
And, if you try to build an institution on racial politics, all you end up doing is institutionalising racism.
So you didn’t need to be a political seer-man to predict either the PNM or the UNC would win this week’s election. The 17 other parties/people who contributed to the coffers of the Elections & Boundaries Commission were only extras, no matter how many thought they would become stars.
And it was safer to put your money on the PNM getting to 21 seats ahead of the UNC. The PNM has got out its unfailing 28 per cent of the electorate to put an X next to the balisier every election since 1956; especially in a pandemic, PNM supporters personify “diehard”. Additionally, low voter turnouts usually favour the incumbent, and “it had pandemic” this week.
Again, the UNC political leader, Kamla Persad-Bissessar, whom I like personally, added much more bacchanal than substance to the debate. The blank man feeling to party in the covid19-free sunshine and thing. It was not so much debate as picong, and pretty ineffective picong at that.
Not that the “debate” had any meaning at all, for debates only matter if someone is likely to be persuaded to change his or her mind, and we have more swing bridges than swing voters in Trinidad.
Here, political party loyalists are not so much PNM-til-Ah-dead as PNM/UNC-from-birth-in-Belmont/Barrackpore.
Monday’s proceedings, then, were not so much an election as a probably more accurate count than any census of how many Africans and Indian voters are registered in every constituency.
For nearly 60 years, two full anthropological generations, either the Indian or the African party in Trinidad has won the election, with the single exception in 1986 of the National Alliance for Reconstruction, Lloyd Best’s “party of parties”, and even that quickly revealed itself to be nothing more than a drunken punch-up at a wedding (to borrow from Radiohead).
Fully 19 parties or independent candidates took part in Monday’s exercise and, for 17 of them, the day and week would end even worse than it did for Trinidad & Tobago, shown up as racist opportunists by the American Democratic Party.
The older masochists — David Abdullah of the Movement for Social Justice, Steve Alvarez of the Democratic Party of T&T, Garvin Nicholas of the Movement for Something Else, Carolyn Sepersad-Bachan of the Congress of No People — have developed scar tissue, but you had to feel sorry for Kirk Waithe of the National Organisation of We the People, who found out on Monday night what Jamal Shabazz, one of the 114 Jamaat “soldiers” of the 1990 attempted coup, discovered when he contested a Parliamentary seat in Morvant/Laventille.
“You is one o’ we,” they told Jamal. “You take bullet for we! We would never vote for nobody but you! You is we boy!” Etc etc, ad lib, fade.
Jamal gave himself up for his people, like Taffy of VS Naipaul and Earl Lovelace novels fame.
He lost his deposit.
The lesson of the week, then, for those who really want to start a third political party in Trinidad & Tobago, is dead simple:
Start a new race.
Or get out of the electoral one.
In Trinidad & Tobago, no matter how we party at fetes, at elections, Indians vote for the Indian party and Africans vote for the African party.
And the douglas could haul they arse to the US and vote for Kamala, not Kamla.
BC Pires is staining his finger red only for pepper mango
maj. tom wrote:and whyyyyyyyyyy TF they not wearing masks and sitting so close!!
WTF who want these people in Government?
Kewell35 wrote:maj. tom wrote:and whyyyyyyyyyy TF they not wearing masks and sitting so close!!
WTF who want these people in Government?
310,000 people apparently.
Skanky wrote:maj. tom wrote:Kamla really needs to concede this and stop these games. We have to move on. We are facing a crisis and we need a Cabinet. In any other circumstances i would find this entertaining and laugh at the egg on her face when the results are declared. But Kamla holding the country hostage right now over an issue that she knows she is wrong about. She knows she lost. A recount can't change thousands of votes.
What's sad is that she is still surrounded by the weak yes men in the party who say they supporting her fully, so she believes it and will follow through. She is blind to the fact that the people of TT, through popular vote too, voted against her rather than for another party than the PNM.
Meanwhile more people are getting infected and more people die.
Pnm fighting for the win to come in and thief.
Unc fighting for the win to come in and thief.
You interested in Covid and ultimately you and yours.
The common theme is everybody only cares about themselves and their friends and family, you included.
You are being hypocritical.
The_Honourable wrote:DUE PROCESS IN ALL MATTERS IS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AS CITIZENS - DO NOT BE INFLUENCED OR BULLIED BY MISLEADING PROPAGANDA
by Kamla Persad Bissessar.
Good morning, everyone.
The UNC called for recounts following numerous allegations of serious discrepancies in Monday’s polls. This is our Constitutional right and a VALID part of T&T’s democratic election process
Further, because of the unprecedented absence of independent election observers, it is our duty to ensure that the elections were, at all costs, conducted in a free and fair manner. The fact remains that, despite this, the country STILL HAS a functioning Government.
As the Office of the President noted earlier this week, under Section 77 of the Constitution, the incumbent Prime Minister and his Cabinet—in this case PM Rowley and his Ministers—remain in office until a new Government is sworn in.
Due process in all matters is our Constitutional right as citizens. Anyone seeking to mislead the population, therefore, stands guilty of attempting to seriously undermine our democratic liberties
This is in particular reference to one of the Government's very public supporters suddenly emerging to falsely and mischievously blame the UNC in the wake of the sudden, alarming increase in Covid-19 cases.
Essentially, this person is misleadingly contending that the ongoing election recounts in five marginal constituencies are preventing the Rowley Government from managing the Covid-19 crisis.
The public placed an enormous trust in the Government since being told by them to expect a second wave of Covid-19. It is vital that that trust is met with openness and transparency about any mistakes and decisions that have been made.
What exactly were their plans and strategy for handling and abating a second wave. What is their excuse for the past five months, when they deviously deliberately under-tested the population to hide the true, alarming spread of the disease?
Coronavirus is a national emergency. Everyone is anxious about what the next few months will bring, but we know we must be resolute in our determination to see this virus defeated.
The incumbent Health Minister remains legally empowered to implement any relevant decisions on all matters, including Covid-19.
I therefore reiterate that the UNC will NOT be bullied or intimidated by dangerous, dictatorial, misleading propaganda
We are committed to always fiercely preserving and protecting our citizens’ and nation’s cherished democratic rights at all costs, and I urge all right-thinking citizens to do the same.
Stay safe and God bless.
Source: https://www.facebook.com/KamlaPersadBis ... 253829798/
VII wrote:Everyone knew they would cry fraud..these people are dangerous...
neilsingh100 wrote:Hope EBC continues the recount with or without UNC present. If UNC can't find time to stay for the recount clearly their objective is to delay. UNC really desperate and grasping at straws.
aaron17 wrote:Pnm would have done the same thing if unc was in power.
Dohplaydat wrote:VII wrote:Everyone knew they would cry fraud..these people are dangerous...
Sigh and what if there was fraud?
I can tell you for a FACT that there was some fraud in Toco PDs where persons were allowed to vote on behalf of others and the UNC rep was bullied into allowing it. That UNC person made a note of it in her diary, but because it was only 15 votes and her safety is at question, it was not brought up officially.
I don't support UNC, not this UNC at least (though i did vote for them). But the bias in people's responses are rediculous. If there was fraud, even if PNM would have won still, that should NEVER happen nor be allowed in a democracy.
Let them investigate please, this is for the betterment of our future more than you'd think.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The question asked by one reporter was "If the time was extended why did the UNC people leave?"
Was that question answered?
Redress10 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:VII wrote:Everyone knew they would cry fraud..these people are dangerous...
Sigh and what if there was fraud?
I can tell you for a FACT that there was some fraud in Toco PDs where persons were allowed to vote on behalf of others and the UNC rep was bullied into allowing it. That UNC person made a note of it in her diary, but because it was only 15 votes and her safety is at question, it was not brought up officially.
I don't support UNC, not this UNC at least (though i did vote for them). But the bias in people's responses are rediculous. If there was fraud, even if PNM would have won still, that should NEVER happen nor be allowed in a democracy.
Let them investigate please, this is for the betterment of our future more than you'd think.
UNC rep getting bullied when there are police officers at each polling division.
Cool story bro
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