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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby RedVEVO » June 6th, 2018, 2:44 pm

sMASH wrote:Wheh, once sat taking public money, she SUPPOSED to get access.

Oh u forgetting kublalsingh....


She had access .

They asked her to conform and she went baltic.

Just because your wife gives you money $$ does that mean you have obey her and not wear a panty ?

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby 88sins » June 6th, 2018, 2:57 pm

zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wheh, once sat taking public money, she SUPPOSED to get access.

Oh u forgetting kublalsingh....
Yes and so Hindus boys going to Catholic schools must be allowed to wear their Raki threads.

what is dis raki u speak of zr? some low budget form of khaki?

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby RedVEVO » June 6th, 2018, 3:03 pm

88sins wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
sMASH wrote:Wheh, once sat taking public money, she SUPPOSED to get access.

Oh u forgetting kublalsingh....
Yes and so Hindus boys going to Catholic schools must be allowed to wear their Raki threads.

what is dis raki u speak of zr? some low budget form of khaki?


It's the colored beads and threads people wear ..

Khaki is for serious PNM people.
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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » June 6th, 2018, 4:40 pm

Rakhis are the yellow or yellow/red threads that you see ppl of the Hindu faith wearing.
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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby RedVEVO » June 6th, 2018, 4:46 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Rakhis are the yellow or yellow/red threads that you see ppl of the Hindu faith wearing.
See KPB hand for reference.

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Other people wear them NOT only Hindus Papi.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby sMASH » June 6th, 2018, 6:40 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Rakhis are the yellow or yellow/red threads that you see ppl of the Hindu faith wearing.
See KPB hand for reference.

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Other people wear them NOT only Hindus Papi.


everybody want to be like a coolkid... cause all the coolkids, they seem to fit in.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 10th, 2018, 9:21 am

Maybe this deserves its own thread. Linking it here for now as the below mentioned pundit was one of those who spoke out in support of Nakhid against Sat.

The senior official was actually the Principal Linda Dharrie.

RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE AGAINST HINDUS AT SAGHS
Yesterday during assembly at the prestigious St. Augustine Girls High School (SAGHS) a Form 1 student was hauled on centre stage by a senior official of the school and publicly shamed for practising her religion. The Hindu student on the stage in front of the entire school was told by the official that she could not wear the Hindu symbol of the “RAKHI” (a thread temporally worn on the wrist after completing a puja) and that SAGHS was a Christian School and the Hindus had to hide any religious symbols so it could not be seen.

The young girl was humiliated in front of her peers, friends and teachers for just being a practicing Hindu. This is Trinidad and Tobago in 2018 and not 1918 when the Presbyterian Board was busying itself in forcibly converting Hindus in exchange for teaching jobs and for access to education. The official of the school told the Assembly that Hindus don’t know what they believe as sometimes the rakhi is worn on the right hand as well as the left hand further heaping scorn on the Hindu religion openly.

All of those who condemned the Maha Sabha Secretary General when Nafiesa Nakhid was denied the opportunity to take up duties as an On The Job (OJT) teacher at Lakshmi Girls Hindu College because she wore a hijab. As a pundit I supported the position of Ms. Nakhid and as a result drew the public wrath of the Maha Sabha which continues today, yet I did it because it was the right thing to do. I anxiously await all those who supported Ms. Nakhid to equally support this innocent Hindu girl who was embarrassed and shamed by a senior official at SAGHS for her religion. I hope that the media treats with this matter equally on its front pages as it did Nakhid.

Ironically at the very same SAGHS Muslim girls are allowed to wear Hijabs and long pants so that they are in conformity with Islamic principles, yet this bigoted position have been taken against Hindu students for wearing a temporary thread on their wrist. If Muslims are allowed to practice expressions of their faith by SAGHS then why is the school biased against Hindus?

The form 1 child is now fearful of her educational future at a school where she has to be for potentially the next seven years in an environment which is hostile to her.

I call upon the Minister of Education, Anthony Garcia, and the Trinidad and Tobago Unified Teachers Union President Union, Lynsley Doodhai, to immediately investigate this matter as the teaching service regulations clearly stipulates that students are not to be publicly reprimanded but it is to be done in private. This official of SAGHS not only is a religious bigot but also violated the official regulations. It is my immediate intention to also file an official complaint to the Equal Opportunities Commission against SAGHS for this naked act of religious bigotry against the Hindu community.

With religious bigots like these still existing in the educational establishments perhaps it is time that the Government begin the discussion to terminate denominational schools and end the Concordat.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby maj. tom » October 10th, 2018, 9:37 am

that letter sound like a lot of opinions to me. Let's wait on an investigation and report by the MoE.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 10th, 2018, 9:44 am

maj. tom wrote:that letter sound like a lot of opinions to me. Let's wait on an investigation and report by the MoE.


Pragmatic and possibly correct view.

However to be fair, for example Sat received no such quarter from the public.

Report is true btw. One of my sisters in law is in Form 3 there and corroborates the story.
The Principal usually picks on known Hindu kids but the hauling up of one individual before the assembly was a next step up.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » October 10th, 2018, 10:00 am

sat gonna have a field day with this....

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 10th, 2018, 10:04 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:sat gonna have a field day with this....


Or he may leave it be. He didn't get as much support as he may have hoped with the hijab issue [lots of big name ppl didn't support him] and he is petty enough to let this slide.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby maj. tom » October 10th, 2018, 10:18 am

But even if it wasn't a religious issue, it is very wrong for any person of authority in school to treat a student that way. And that should be the issue at the forefront. So one can only imagine what a little 11 or 12 year old girl feeling after that episode in front the entire school.

She could have called the student in the office with a Dean and Secretary to witness the conversation, then the matter of religious freedom would be discussed with the parents. That is, if it the events transpired as reported in the letter.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Slartibartfast » October 10th, 2018, 2:15 pm

What... the... fu...

Wow. Over a rakhi?!

The saddest part is that teachers are supposed to be role models since children spend more time with their school teachers than parents and thesenior official among the teachers should be and exemplary model. That kind of advantageous behaviour of a little girl is just disgusting. That person should be forced into retirement because clearly the world has left them and their ancient world view behind.

maj. tom wrote:that letter sound like a lot of opinions to me. Let's wait on an investigation and report by the MoE.

I guess this is the best reaction right now though. Waiting on more info.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Redman » October 11th, 2018, 4:10 am

If it's true...the school should remove the principal.
Regardless of what, INTOLERANCE is not to be advocated at any level.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby maj. tom » October 16th, 2018, 9:45 am

See what did I tell you all? Pundit wanted attention. He apparently doesn't have real issues to deal with in life after all. Just to rile up people about false discrimination and get off on it.

Garcia hits back at pundit: Rakhi ‘discrimination’ claim false

Education Minister Anthony Garcia has denied that there was any religious discrimination at play at the Presbyterian-run St Augustine Girls’ High School (SAGHS) in which a Hindu student was purportedly shamed during a school assembly for wearing a rakhi.

Speaking at a news conference held at the Ministry’s St Vincent Street Headquarters to address the matter, Garcia said the claim made on social media by a pundit was entirely false.

The Minister said there was no instance of a student being singled out and humiliated for wearing a rakhi.

He explained that the school’s Principal during a morning assembly, sought to address the issue of deportment in a general manner.

He stated that no student was discriminated against, nor did any student wearing a rakhi feel embarrassed.

The Minister made reference to “the hijab issue” Somarie Mohammed vs the Principal of Holy Name Convent PoS as he explained that Principals have the right to enforce regulations.

“One important aspect of that judgement was that the Principal of a school has the right to enforce school regulations and that is an important aspect of that judgement.

The rules must be in line with our Constitution, the Education Act, and so on.

Those regulations would have been made available to the parents on the entry of those children into the school.

If there are regulations regarding deportment which have been discussed with parents beforehand, the Principal has the right to enforce those regulations.”

Garcia reiterated that the children were not prevented from wearing the rakhi, and the issue dealt with how it should be worn in keeping with the school’s uniform code.

Chief Education Officer Harrilal Seecharan was also at the conference reaffirmed Garcia’s conclusion that there was no discrimination at play at the Government-assisted school.

“There was no evidence to us that the school prevented the student from wearing the rakhi as opposed to providing guidelines within the general context of how jewellery or any other adornments should be worn within schools.”

Principal Linda Dharrie, who was also in attendance at Monday’s conference insisted that the student used for the demonstration on how the rakhi should be worn was not embarrassed by the incident.

The student’s parents also attended the conference along with the school’s Principal. They denied ever having spoken to the pundit as was widely reported in the media.
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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 16th, 2018, 9:54 am

^ Its not false discrimination.
My sister in law is in Form 3 in SAGHS and just as the Pundit described the incident is just how she said it happened. She has no reason to lie.

Prinicpal Dharrie has actually been picking on Hindu students periodically for rahkis and the calling up in assembly of the student was the culmination of that.
Up to yesterday Dharrie was speaking to a student during lunch time about neatening up her clothes and told her "Is not a rakhi i could tell you what i want"

The Ministry has skin in the game in trying to protect the top performing female school in the country.

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Postby maj. tom » October 16th, 2018, 10:00 am

You need to vet your information sources. The perception and feelings of a report from a 15 year old girl vs an official report from several independent and reliable sources. This is how #metoo nonsense spreads and real victims don't get the help they need.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 16th, 2018, 10:34 am

maj. tom wrote:You need to vet your information sources. The perception and feelings of a report from a 15 year old girl vs an official report from several independent and reliable sources. This is how #metoo nonsense spreads and real victims don't get the help they need.


I will believe my sister in law over Anthony Garcia any day.
When I first heard the story it was before the pundit put it up and it was as the pundit stated.

But I mean we live in the most transparent country in the world where politicians and public officials tell the truth all the time so clearly they have given us the correct story and not one meant to portray some parties in a particular light.

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 16th, 2018, 10:39 am

Said it once- if YOUR children wish to attend a certain SCHOOL in Trinidad then YOU must conform to their dress code.. no one is asking you to change your religion, but respect their Code of attire.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 16th, 2018, 10:47 am

Ben_spanna wrote:Said it once- if YOUR children wish to attend a certain SCHOOL in Trinidad then YOU must conform to their dress code.. no one is asking you to change your religion, but respect their Code of attire.


People keep forgetting all these "Board"schools receive 70% of their funding from non religious tax payers money. The concordat was agreed upon in 1960 however it takes precedence over the constitution apparently.

I am all for uniformity and rules, however it is on the side of no religion in schools of any form. Do your religious activities after school or fund your school 100% by yourself.

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Postby Ben_spanna » October 16th, 2018, 12:20 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:Said it once- if YOUR children wish to attend a certain SCHOOL in Trinidad then YOU must conform to their dress code.. no one is asking you to change your religion, but respect their Code of attire.


People keep forgetting all these "Board"schools receive 70% of their funding from non religious tax payers money. The concordat was agreed upon in 1960 however it takes precedence over the constitution apparently.

I am all for uniformity and rules, however it is on the side of no religion in schools of any form. Do your religious activities after school or fund your school 100% by yourself.


Once again- they are not asking you to change your religion- theres a dress code in place! and if you cannot obey it then seek education elsewhere where what YOU insist you have to wear is acceptable.

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Postby timelapse » October 16th, 2018, 1:42 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:Said it once- if YOUR children wish to attend a certain SCHOOL in Trinidad then YOU must conform to their dress code.. no one is asking you to change your religion, but respect their Code of attire.


People keep forgetting all these "Board"schools receive 70% of their funding from non religious tax payers money. The concordat was agreed upon in 1960 however it takes precedence over the constitution apparently.

I am all for uniformity and rules, however it is on the side of no religion in schools of any form. Do your religious activities after school or fund your school 100% by yourself.


Once again- they are not asking you to change your religion- theres a dress code in place! and if you cannot obey it then seek education elsewhere where what YOU insist you have to wear is acceptable.


I wish this would appyto people in the workplace that insist on playing Gospel music at work regardless of how quiet it is played. I don't need to hear that.

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby Dizzy28 » October 16th, 2018, 2:11 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:Said it once- if YOUR children wish to attend a certain SCHOOL in Trinidad then YOU must conform to their dress code.. no one is asking you to change your religion, but respect their Code of attire.


People keep forgetting all these "Board"schools receive 70% of their funding from non religious tax payers money. The concordat was agreed upon in 1960 however it takes precedence over the constitution apparently.

I am all for uniformity and rules, however it is on the side of no religion in schools of any form. Do your religious activities after school or fund your school 100% by yourself.


Once again- they are not asking you to change your religion- theres a dress code in place! and if you cannot obey it then seek education elsewhere where what YOU insist you have to wear is acceptable.


The Trinidad and Tobago High Court (and the MoE dependent on the school in question) disagrees with you

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Postby *KRONIK* » October 16th, 2018, 4:08 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:You need to vet your information sources. The perception and feelings of a report from a 15 year old girl vs an official report from several independent and reliable sources. This is how #metoo nonsense spreads and real victims don't get the help they need.


I will believe my sister in law over Anthony Garcia any day.
When I first heard the story it was before the pundit put it up and it was as the pundit stated.

But I mean we live in the most transparent country in the world where politicians and public officials tell the truth all the time so clearly they have given us the correct story and not one meant to portray some parties in a particular light.


My sister is in lower six.

And she says its exactly as the student and the pundit claimed it happened.

The student was embarasssed in front of the whole school.

The prinicipal has a certain vendetta against that particular student due to some internal problems experienced with the parents and her entry to the school.

Also, there many cover ups in that particular school where the students are told to turn a blind eye.

There were instances where students were to be expelled for fighting and drug use, but to prevent investigations by the ministry, they received a “slap on the wrist” and the students were told to say nothing of it.

Also, just saying, it have ministers daughters going to school there....so padna-padna thing is nornal for cover ups, which is exactly whats taking place there now.

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Postby Dizzy28 » October 16th, 2018, 4:20 pm

*KRONIK* wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:You need to vet your information sources. The perception and feelings of a report from a 15 year old girl vs an official report from several independent and reliable sources. This is how #metoo nonsense spreads and real victims don't get the help they need.


I will believe my sister in law over Anthony Garcia any day.
When I first heard the story it was before the pundit put it up and it was as the pundit stated.

But I mean we live in the most transparent country in the world where politicians and public officials tell the truth all the time so clearly they have given us the correct story and not one meant to portray some parties in a particular light.


My sister is in lower six.

And she says its exactly as the student and the pundit claimed it happened.

The student was embarasssed in front of the whole school.

The prinicipal has a certain vendetta against that particular student due to some internal problems experienced with the parents and her entry to the school.

Also, there many cover ups in that particular school where the students are told to turn a blind eye.

There were instances where students were to be expelled for fighting and drug use, but to prevent investigations by the ministry, they received a “slap on the wrist” and the students were told to say nothing of it.

Also, just saying, it have ministers daughters going to school there....so padna-padna thing is nornal for cover ups, which is exactly whats taking place there now.


No Maj. Tom knows exactly what happened because Woodsman say so.

The girl who was picked on is the daughter of prominent teacher who gives physics lessons in El Dorado. There is much more as you stated however, which accounts for the cover up.

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Postby screwbash » October 16th, 2018, 4:27 pm

*KRONIK* wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:You need to vet your information sources. The perception and feelings of a report from a 15 year old girl vs an official report from several independent and reliable sources. This is how #metoo nonsense spreads and real victims don't get the help they need.


I will believe my sister in law over Anthony Garcia any day.
When I first heard the story it was before the pundit put it up and it was as the pundit stated.

But I mean we live in the most transparent country in the world where politicians and public officials tell the truth all the time so clearly they have given us the correct story and not one meant to portray some parties in a particular light.


My sister is in lower six.

And she says its exactly as the student and the pundit claimed it happened.

The student was embarasssed in front of the whole school.

The prinicipal has a certain vendetta against that particular student due to some internal problems experienced with the parents and her entry to the school.

Also, there many cover ups in that particular school where the students are told to turn a blind eye.

There were instances where students were to be expelled for fighting and drug use, but to prevent investigations by the ministry, they received a “slap on the wrist” and the students were told to say nothing of it.

Also, just saying, it have ministers daughters going to school there....so padna-padna thing is nornal for cover ups, which is exactly whats taking place there now.


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petrotrin close dong -no riot
gas gone up - no riot
pnm doing shuet -no riot

let we riot SAGHS ... we mite see the two gyul making out who everybody say they see but me

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby K74T » October 16th, 2018, 5:43 pm

Da principal look and song like ah hog

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Re: Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

Postby maj. tom » October 16th, 2018, 5:58 pm

I not taking anyone's side. I am an independent observer and the official report is what i am inclined to believe.

Ok, so if that did happen, why didn't the parents make it an issue? Who are they afraid of? They will just let their child be bullied at school by a principal? And you're saying it's not the first time it happened. So these girls don't have parents who know how to stand up for their rights? The case you are presenting seems quite strong, so the parents never decided to have a meeting and discuss that issue and take action? Call witnesses, testimony, get a lawyer's opinion on the law and how these kids are allowed to practice their religious beliefs? These girls must have smart parents. They could easily press the issue and bring it to the public like that girl with the hijab issue. Watch how easy it would be, the child will wear the rahki, get disciplined, parents must get called in, discuss, quote the law and rights, take it further to be heard by the press from them directly, and not from a 3rd party questionable source like a pundit. So what is the problem? They will actually be hailed as heroes for standing up for the rights of the people and get tremendous support.

All I can see here in that case is just another #metoo type movement on the internetz. Hearsay from a bunch of teenage girls on their opinion of what they witnessed, and then you will hear claims about it 10 to 30 years later and expect someone to believe them. Really, use some logic and try reach independent conclusions with the evidence presented, instead of being outraged at everything. You really can't see it how I am reading the situation from here? Everything has to be a political conspiracy?

I absolutely stand to be corrected, but with evidence!

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Postby 16 cycles » October 16th, 2018, 10:03 pm

Not everybody want to spend time to fight the system....some just wanna move on.....without fear of future victimization..

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