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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 24th, 2023, 2:29 pm

wing wrote:Many of the biggest complainers have no problem finding money for carnival, phone, brands, vice, rum and all kinds of unnecessary things. Then on the other side, the money going to party hacks...we really deserve what we voted for.


Spoken like a true pnmite

Use coalpot, ride bike, doh eat macaroni pie etc

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby wing » December 24th, 2023, 3:08 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
wing wrote:Many of the biggest complainers have no problem finding money for carnival, phone, brands, vice, rum and all kinds of unnecessary things. Then on the other side, the money going to party hacks...we really deserve what we voted for.


Spoken like a true pnmite

Use coalpot, ride bike, doh eat macaroni pie etc
Oh yeah I forgot to mention another colossal waste of money... stupid indos that have those panel vans that laden with music worth many thousands, making noise by the river, beach, gas station funeral or any gathering where rum is consumed, no regards to peace and quiet or family time. Most of them licensed T, which means they supposed to use vehicle for commercial or agricultural purposes. They avoid vehicle tax to annoy the average person. They should be made to pay the arv as the tax, like their yellow overlords telling them.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby paid_influencer » December 24th, 2023, 3:10 pm

wing wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
wing wrote:Many of the biggest complainers have no problem finding money for carnival, phone, brands, vice, rum and all kinds of unnecessary things. Then on the other side, the money going to party hacks...we really deserve what we voted for.


Spoken like a true pnmite

Use coalpot, ride bike, doh eat macaroni pie etc
Oh yeah I forgot to mention another colossal waste of money... stupid indos that have those panel vans that laden with music worth many thousands, making noise by the river, beach, gas station funeral or any gathering where rum is consumed, no regards to peace and quiet or family time. Most of them licensed T, which means they supposed to use vehicle for commercial or agricultural purposes. They avoid vehicle tax to annoy the average person. They should be made to pay the arv as the tax, like their yellow overlords telling them.


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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 24th, 2023, 4:39 pm

wing wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
wing wrote:Many of the biggest complainers have no problem finding money for carnival, phone, brands, vice, rum and all kinds of unnecessary things. Then on the other side, the money going to party hacks...we really deserve what we voted for.


Spoken like a true pnmite

Use coalpot, ride bike, doh eat macaroni pie etc
Oh yeah I forgot to mention another colossal waste of money... stupid indos that have those panel vans that laden with music worth many thousands, making noise by the river, beach, gas station funeral or any gathering where rum is consumed, no regards to peace and quiet or family time. Most of them licensed T, which means they supposed to use vehicle for commercial or agricultural purposes. They avoid vehicle tax to annoy the average person. They should be made to pay the arv as the tax, like their yellow overlords telling them.


Sufferer much?
Music is a hobby and that's about it :|....

To each his own

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby AlphaMan » December 24th, 2023, 4:48 pm

wing wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
wing wrote:Many of the biggest complainers have no problem finding money for carnival, phone, brands, vice, rum and all kinds of unnecessary things. Then on the other side, the money going to party hacks...we really deserve what we voted for.


Spoken like a true pnmite

Use coalpot, ride bike, doh eat macaroni pie etc
Oh yeah I forgot to mention another colossal waste of money... stupid indos that have those panel vans that laden with music worth many thousands, making noise by the river, beach, gas station funeral or any gathering where rum is consumed, no regards to peace and quiet or family time. Most of them licensed T, which means they supposed to use vehicle for commercial or agricultural purposes. They avoid vehicle tax to annoy the average person. They should be made to pay the arv as the tax, like their yellow overlords telling them.

So injuns cant enjoy nothing in the country.
They aint getting their house and vehicles free inno.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby DrunkenMaster16 » December 29th, 2023, 10:13 am

So what's the story with paying property tax if you've not been assessed, didn't submit and no notice received? Prepare thy anus?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 29th, 2023, 4:28 pm

I am in that boat waiting to see how it will play off.

I wish everyone had refused to sign up, and then there would be no property tax

We complaining but still went like sheep and filled out the forms

Steups

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby 88sins » December 29th, 2023, 6:32 pm

PariaMan wrote:I am in that boat waiting to see how it will play off.

I wish everyone had refused to sign up, and then there would be no property tax

We complaining but still went like sheep and filled out the forms

Steups


I wanted to see hinds try to figure out, how and where they finding the time, manpower, space and resources to arrest, prosecute and lock up 250k ppl.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby bluefete » December 30th, 2023, 11:33 am

DrunkenMaster16 wrote:So what's the story with paying property tax if you've not been assessed, didn't submit and no notice received? Prepare thy anus?


PariaMan wrote:I am in that boat waiting to see how it will play off.

I wish everyone had refused to sign up, and then there would be no property tax

We complaining but still went like sheep and filled out the forms

Steups


Valuation division told me that you don't have to fill out a form to get evaluated. The Commissioner of state lands has a database of properties so even people who did not send in anything will be getting letters eventually.
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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » December 30th, 2023, 11:38 am

The alternative database is from TTPOST, not COSL. Call them and ask what a "GIS Blitz Return" means.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby bluefete » December 30th, 2023, 11:40 am

ProtonPowder wrote:The alternative database is from TTPOST, not COSL. Call them and ask what a "GIS Blitz Return" means.

Will do.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Mmoney607 » December 30th, 2023, 1:27 pm

All the time they were saying it's 3% now imbert come yesterday and say 2.7%.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » December 30th, 2023, 1:52 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:All the time they were saying it's 3% now imbert come yesterday and say 2.7%.
Since 2017, it's been the same:
2.7% of ARV
3.0% of ATV

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby drchaos » December 31st, 2023, 11:55 am

bluefete wrote:
DrunkenMaster16 wrote:So what's the story with paying property tax if you've not been assessed, didn't submit and no notice received? Prepare thy anus?


PariaMan wrote:I am in that boat waiting to see how it will play off.

I wish everyone had refused to sign up, and then there would be no property tax

We complaining but still went like sheep and filled out the forms

Steups


Valuation division told me that you don't have to fill out a form to get evaluated. The Commissioner of state lands has a database of properties so even people who did not send in anything will be getting letters eventually.


They just needed you to submit so they could get 50% of the populations consent to tax us.

And 50% of us had enough sheep DNA in them to behave like drones and do as they were told

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 12:45 pm

drchaos wrote:
bluefete wrote:
DrunkenMaster16 wrote:So what's the story with paying property tax if you've not been assessed, didn't submit and no notice received? Prepare thy anus?


PariaMan wrote:I am in that boat waiting to see how it will play off.

I wish everyone had refused to sign up, and then there would be no property tax

We complaining but still went like sheep and filled out the forms

Steups


Valuation division told me that you don't have to fill out a form to get evaluated. The Commissioner of state lands has a database of properties so even people who did not send in anything will be getting letters eventually.


They just needed you to submit so they could get 50% of the populations consent to tax us.

And 50% of us had enough sheep DNA in them to behave like drones and do as they were told
Bulls eye.

In most people the sheep DNA is very high.

Whatever the overlords say to do, they just do.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby AlphaMan » December 31st, 2023, 1:03 pm

If you didn't submit your valuation before to the deadline then you had to pay a fine and submit it anyways so people just submitted it.
They accepted that it was impossible to avoid.
Aunty kams and her legal team did brilliant in stalling the collection of these taxes thus far.
Had it not been for her we would have been paying taxes since 2015.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 1:06 pm

If less than 50% had sent in they could not have continued

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 1:15 pm

The Finance Minister further explained, “In other words, the Commissioner of Valuations would, in this amendment, be able to value 50 per cent of residential land, or 50 per cent of commercial land, or 50 per cent of industrial land, or 50 per cent of agricultural land. And when the valuations in the various categories have been completed to the threshold of 50 per cent, the commissioner can then proceed to create the valuation roll and send that to the minister for continuation of the process.”

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 1:17 pm

Without 50%, they could not have continued.

It was our moment to conscientiously decline
to participate

We failed

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby sMASH » December 31st, 2023, 2:01 pm

Who say imburt got 50%?
Imburt.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby 88sins » December 31st, 2023, 3:32 pm

sMASH wrote:Who say imburt got 50%?
Imburt.

And the dummies believe, that the albino douen liar with a head like a bowling ball on a matchstick and a face like a rotten grapefruit that a dustbin terrier shat on, is telling them the truth
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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 3:48 pm

Problem is once he says so he can go forward unless he is challenged in court.

But I still can not understand why anyone would have willingly supplied information so that they can be taxed

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 3:58 pm

AS of February 28, the Office of the Commissioner of Valuations had received 247,999 returns for residential properties.

This meets the 50 per cent threshold required for the implementation of property tax.

Finance Minister Colm Imbert, in response to a question from Couva South MP Rudy Indarsingh in the House of Representatives on Friday, said up to February 28, there were 247,999 returns received for residential lands; 10,303 for commercial lands; 17,663 returns were received for agricultural lands; and 18,495 returns for mixed-use lands.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby The_Honourable » December 31st, 2023, 4:04 pm

PariaMan wrote:Problem is once he says so he can go forward unless he is challenged in court.

But I still can not understand why anyone would have willingly supplied information so that they can be taxed


Remember there was a $500 then $5,000 fine for not "voluntarily" submitting the valuation form.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 31st, 2023, 4:16 pm

PariaMan wrote:Problem is once he says so he can go forward unless he is challenged in court.

But I still can not understand why anyone would have willingly supplied information so that they can be taxed


that $5k fine is what got most people to submit

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 4:20 pm

So let's say 10000 people had submitted would they have charged 390000 people five thousand dollars the year before an election?

No one has been charged as yet

It's likely that before they do, they will give deadlines upon deadlines

Hence, what was the rush to submit?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby adnj » December 31st, 2023, 6:03 pm

PariaMan wrote:So let's say 10000 people had submitted would they have charged 390000 people five thousand dollars the year before an election?

No one has been charged as yet

It's likely that before they do, they will give deadlines upon deadlines

Hence, what was the rush to submit?
The bill stated that 50% of the properties in each category were required to be assessed and valued by the Commissioner of Valuations before the tax could take effect.

It also stated that property could also be assessed on the basis of similar properties being rented plus national indicators.

Assessment doesn't require input from anyone that owns or uses the property - the Commissioner of Valuations can just assign and record the final number.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby PariaMan » December 31st, 2023, 6:22 pm

Even so why give them a leg up?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Mmoney607 » December 31st, 2023, 6:27 pm

adnj wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:All the time they were saying it's 3% now imbert come yesterday and say 2.7%.
Since 2017, it's been the same:
2.7% of ARV
3.0% of ATV

Thanks

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby j.o.e » January 1st, 2024, 10:25 am

I thought it already had a sufferer thread ?

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