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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bluefete » February 28th, 2022, 9:00 pm

Understanding Vladimir Putin as a Leader.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLnZ_rNLOU

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bluefete » February 28th, 2022, 9:07 pm

88sins wrote:So I see Ukraine has passed legislation to allow the government to arm the entire citizenry, allowing anyone willing to carry a weapon to protect themselves and defend their country from invaders to do so. Good on them.

This just goes to show, the people are the ones who have to defend themselves and their country, not only the enlisted military, but every willing and capable adult citizen. If ever this country were to face the threat of war, half the population dead, because these overdressed table thumping jackasses would NEVER be willing to arm the population, and even on the extremely off chance that they were, the military here simply don't have what'd be required to do so.


Ent the Mickey Mouse Acting Commissioner of Police (McDonald) said that the police are going after legal firearms holders instead of the bandits with guns because too many guns are in the hand of law abiding citizens? Not so?

So there you go.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby paid_influencer » February 28th, 2022, 9:22 pm

Ukranian citizens with guns killing out "Russian saboteurs." Straight up, shoot dead on the spot. Don't like yuh neighbours, them is Russian saboteur, kill out.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby redmanjp » February 28th, 2022, 9:24 pm

so what will happen when russia decide to target civilians now that they are also armed? and not guns but bombs?
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby paid_influencer » February 28th, 2022, 9:34 pm

bluefete wrote:Understanding Vladimir Putin as a Leader.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJLnZ_rNLOU


lots of "putin is literally hitler and there are no shades of grey in the issue, nope, just hitler being hitler" propaganda, but damn Putin comes off as a serious badass in that video.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby paid_influencer » February 28th, 2022, 9:37 pm

redmanjp wrote:so will happen when russia decide to target civilians now that they are also armed? and not guns but bombs?


if you are walking around with a gun, you aren't a civilian anymore. lol

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Mmoney607 » February 28th, 2022, 9:48 pm

The woke world just find Russia have too much white people and not embracing the gender pronouns lifestyle. This is why they want to get rid of putin.

Ps, I think this post will be deleted.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby 88sins » February 28th, 2022, 10:30 pm

redmanjp wrote:so what will happen when russia decide to target civilians now that they are also armed? and not guns but bombs?

The civilians were already being targeted, and it's only after nearly 400 Ukrainian civilians were killed (many by bombs) that the Ukrainian government chose to arm their people.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shogun » February 28th, 2022, 11:31 pm



Never thought I could feel sorry for a Russian spy-chief?

Man almost sh!tting himself, trying not to offend the Dear Leader. Who want a country run like this?

Russia's ruble worth less than 1 cent after West tightens sanctions

Russia's currency is tumbling after Western nations on Saturday agreed to put crippling sanctions on the country's financial sector in retaliation for its invasion of Ukraine.
The ruble fell about 30% against the dollar Monday — making it worth less than 1 U.S. cent — after the U.S., European Union and United Kingdom announced moves to block some Russian banks from the SWIFT international payment system and to restrict Russia's use of its massive foreign currency reserves.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby bluefete » March 1st, 2022, 5:33 am

Written on January 13, 2022 - Centre For Strategic and International Studies

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-p ... on-ukraine

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The brief makes two main arguments.

First, if Russia decides to invade Ukraine to reassert Russian control and influence, there are at least three possible axes of advance to seize Ukrainian territory: a northern thrust, possibly attempting to outflank Ukrainian defenses around Kiev by approaching through Belarus; a central thrust advancing due west into Ukraine; and a southern thrust advancing across the Perekop isthmus.

Second, if the United States and its European partners fail to deter a Russian invasion, they should support Ukrainian resistance through a combination of diplomatic, military, intelligence, and other means.

The United States and its European partners cannot allow Russia to annex Ukraine. The West’s appeasement of Moscow when it annexed Crimea in 2014 and then orchestrated an insurgency in Eastern Ukraine only emboldened Russian leaders.

In addition, Russian annexation of some or all of Ukraine would increase Russian manpower, industrial capacity, and natural resources to a level that could make it a global threat. The United States and Europe cannot make this mistake again.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Redman » March 1st, 2022, 6:35 am

The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby fokhan_96 » March 1st, 2022, 7:16 am

Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.
Is how people forgot how the US got rid of saddam in Iraq... when this happened the whole world drank water and mind their business... the same as the world is doing now.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby zoom rader » March 1st, 2022, 7:41 am

fokhan_96 wrote:
Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.
Is how people forgot how the US got rid of saddam in Iraq... when this happened the whole world drank water and mind their business... the same as the world is doing now.
Yeah Russia has nukes where Iraq did not have.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » March 1st, 2022, 8:00 am

Fake or real
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby fokhan_96 » March 1st, 2022, 8:01 am

zoom rader wrote:
fokhan_96 wrote:
Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.
Is how people forgot how the US got rid of saddam in Iraq... when this happened the whole world drank water and mind their business... the same as the world is doing now.
Yeah Russia has nukes where Iraq did not have.
Cudda swear i hear from somebody that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Redman » March 1st, 2022, 8:05 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Fake or real


A few minutes ago Boris stated that they now getting into a shooting war with Russia.
He could be stalling.

Of course everyone is talking their own book for their own purposes.
Fake or real is a matter of which network you looking at.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 1st, 2022, 8:13 am

I missed that part of history where Ukraine was trying to ethnically cleanse a minority (Kurds) sometimes with chemical weapons (Halabja) or tried to invade or initiate intense wars with neighbouring countries (Iran and Kuwait).



fokhan_96 wrote:
Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.
Is how people forgot how the US got rid of saddam in Iraq... when this happened the whole world drank water and mind their business... the same as the world is doing now.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » March 1st, 2022, 9:05 am

Russian progress on a map visualized so far
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dohplaydat » March 1st, 2022, 9:06 am

Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.


Both Russia and the US have done regime change countless times in the last 70-80 years.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » March 1st, 2022, 9:22 am

Dizzy28 wrote:I missed that part of history where Ukraine was trying to ethnically cleanse a minority (Kurds) sometimes with chemical weapons (Halabja) or tried to invade or initiate intense wars with neighbouring countries (Iran and Kuwait).



fokhan_96 wrote:
Redman wrote:The irony of Russia using the well tested American model of regime change.
Is how people forgot how the US got rid of saddam in Iraq... when this happened the whole world drank water and mind their business... the same as the world is doing now.
The United States has historically been able to at least appear as if there was a valid excuse for intervention.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby toyolink » March 1st, 2022, 9:43 am

We now enter the messy, bloody and somewhat crazy phase of this conflict where things are going to be brutal and scenes become that of broken buildings, rubble and littered by all kinds of war machinery.
This is the beginning of a long drawn-out process where ukrainian resistance groups will be conducting 'hit and run' exercises especially focused on Russian hardware and vulnerable personnel which could encounter real difficulties in restricted spaces littered by rubble etc (close quarter fighting favors insurgents).
The Russian economy certainly cannot financially bear this kind of burden for an extended period of time and if put in that position the pain and suffering will reach home to every Russian.
This kind of conflict always end-up long and drawn-out with no clear winners, only collapse of economy and serious instability and loss of lives.
Putin is more aware than any of us of the grim realities and clearly overcome with a dose of delusional aspirations.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby VexXx Dogg » March 1st, 2022, 10:03 am

Saw reports that they used a vaccuum/thermobaric bomb in a civilian context.
Geneva convention says's that a war crime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-02-28/

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 1st, 2022, 10:05 am

War crimes tribunals are not for permanent Security Council members.
VexXx Dogg wrote:Saw reports that they used a vaccuum/thermobaric bomb in a civilian context.
Geneva convention says's that a war crime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-02-28/

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » March 1st, 2022, 11:33 am

Dizzy28 wrote:War crimes tribunals are not for permanent Security Council members.
VexXx Dogg wrote:Saw reports that they used a vaccuum/thermobaric bomb in a civilian context.
Geneva convention says's that a war crime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-02-28/

Russia-Ukraine: ICC to launch probe into possible war crimes

International Criminal Court prosecutor says there is ‘reasonable basis’ to believe that crimes occurred in Ukraine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... war-crimes

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 1st, 2022, 11:51 am

/sarcasm/
adnj wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:War crimes tribunals are not for permanent Security Council members.
VexXx Dogg wrote:Saw reports that they used a vaccuum/thermobaric bomb in a civilian context.
Geneva convention says's that a war crime.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 022-02-28/

Russia-Ukraine: ICC to launch probe into possible war crimes

International Criminal Court prosecutor says there is ‘reasonable basis’ to believe that crimes occurred in Ukraine.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/2 ... war-crimes

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » March 1st, 2022, 1:07 pm

toyolink wrote:We now enter the messy, bloody and somewhat crazy phase of this conflict where things are going to be brutal and scenes become that of broken buildings, rubble and littered by all kinds of war machinery.
This is the beginning of a long drawn-out process where ukrainian resistance groups will be conducting 'hit and run' exercises especially focused on Russian hardware and vulnerable personnel which could encounter real difficulties in restricted spaces littered by rubble etc (close quarter fighting favors insurgents).
The Russian economy certainly cannot financially bear this kind of burden for an extended period of time and if put in that position the pain and suffering will reach home to every Russian.
This kind of conflict always end-up long and drawn-out with no clear winners, only collapse of economy and serious instability and loss of lives.
Putin is more aware than any of us of the grim realities and clearly overcome with a dose of delusional aspirations.
Let's be real putin isn't a stupid guy, might be irrational and a tad extreme but stupid definitely isn't one. One thing is that , this was well calculated and putin has anticipated EVERY possible outcome. All these sanctions only affect the poor and vunerable in Russia, the rich will hold onto their foreign exchange and hoard what they can.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » March 1st, 2022, 1:18 pm

^You have literally typed the exact opposite of the intelligence coming out of the best agencies in the world.

Putin had supposedly miscalculated and is now very anxious and irritable. His firing of his Chief of General Staff was no calculated decision.


https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/ ... -rcna18026

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